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  1. #321
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    most of pakistani supporters in this forum lack cricketing mind & they have only emotion for their nation which is fine actually but u need to have cricketing brain to keep the hopes , I gussed it correctly yesterday at pak will not even score 290 & they got bowled out for 273 ! Pakistan continued their tradition of getting white washed in southern hemisphere countries

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    If you ask me Pakistan punched above the weight in the 2nd innings. Partly due to daft captaincy by Elgar.

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    Our best batsman bobby azam is a softie

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    To think that if saf had fielded even 50% closer to their true capacity in the first innings pakistan would not even have made an anyways paltry score in 185!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rollingstoned View Post
    To think that if saf had fielded even 50% closer to their true capacity in the first innings pakistan would not even have made an anyways paltry score in 185!
    Give the same side to Tim Paine. He would have handled much better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yasir View Post
    The thing I never liked even in 90s about our cricket is that we had too much love for limited overs cricket. IQ of fan base and public not educated enough for us to invest in real cricket. Even Cricket, nations biggest passion after religion has hampered severely by the first love ������
    It's not the IQ of general people rather PCB that matters. They should know what is good for the game and promote that, create an environment so that a market is developed. We started watching cricket in Dhaka & Chittagong league with may be 100 semi pro cricketers playing 35-40 overs game when ODI was played 60-55 overs..... Today, a Test match in BD provides over 75K paid crowd over 5 days, and most of these people are gradually developing a taste of the longer format. In a Test match day, I block my messenger & facebook, because I get thousands of inquiry about the finer things of the Test game.

    This UAE model Test & T20I ranking won't take PAK above 6th/7th ranking - that too because SRL & WIN has declined alarmingly. PAK actually is 8th ranked team in Test, considering where SRL & WIN cricket has gone in last few years. That's 8th out of 8.

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    Haysman to kaptaan - u kept well
    Kaptaan after playing for 15 years- its all because of the coaches

    Tuney kya kiya bhai ye bhi bata de kabhi

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    Quote Originally Posted by rollingstoned View Post
    Won't. If the target was say 230 I would have still backed saf to win this. The mental component which you are im sure very well aware of in Pakistan's case and A combination of no pressure due to match situation, attacking fields, highveld outfield and thin atmosphere has contributed to a relatively deceptive 'moral win'
    My 303+based on a target of 381, not 230. You can check my post - conveniently said that Kiwis will win in UAE if they win the toss - even after 153 on Day 1.

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    Kaptaan looked like a bheegi billi in tht presentation ceremony

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    Pakistan hit us with something we weren't really expecting-Dean Elgar.

    What was that thing? We didnt see that,did we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    My 303+based on a target of 381, not 230. You can check my post - conveniently said that Kiwis will win in UAE if they win the toss - even after 153 on Day 1.
    Agreed. This team has almost always reliably failed in 4th innings chases no matter the target. This match was lost in the first 2 sessions itself in truth.

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    3-0 was always coming with T20 batters playing test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Patriot View Post
    Pakistan hit us with something we weren't really expecting-Dean Elgar.

    What was that thing? We didnt see that,did we?
    May be Pak found the remnants of the ball that du plesssis was tampering with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saviking View Post
    Just to comment on the continued devaluation of Olivier on this board.

    Firstly, Olivier has not played that much test yet, but he has had some decent performances against a few countries already, of course against Pakistan is his best so far. So does not mean that he will not perform better in future.

    In the beginning of the series he himself stated that he has a specific job to do in the South African team, and that is to hit the deck hard. In domestic cricket he bowls quite a variety of balls, but he is very good at hitting the deck hard and extract steep bounce. The same as Morkel before him, Mcmillan many years back, etc.

    South Africa have almost always had 1 bowler that were required to bowl a hard ball.

    If you look at the 4 seamers in the current team, you have Rabada that is a fantastic seam bowler and getting better at swinging the ball, you have Steyn that is a fantastic swing bowler, of course he can do seam as well. then you have Olivier who is the hard ball bowler creating steep bounce, and Philander who is your medium fast bowler with very good accuracy and seam movement. So basically they have 4 different style seam bowlers working together. In that way not giving batsmen time to adjust to a style most of the time.

    I has been working well for SA for many decades to have this kind of bowling setup. So just because some arm chair specialists on this board do not rate Olivier does not mean that he is doing exactly what the team wants him to do.

    They knew before this series that Pakistan will struggle against steep bounce and he prepared accordingly as Gibson wanted him to bowl.

    There is an age old cricket saying that seamers bowl in pairs, helping each other out to take the wickets.

    I am very glad that the expert selectors on this board are not selectors for the SA team.
    Thank you for being sensible. His bouncers and short balls this series were of higher quality than rabada's. Yes pak batters are cluless against short pitched bowling, but taking 24 wickets in 3 tests is not a joke.

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    What did Elgar do?

    Have only watched bits of pieces of this series.

    Was Olivier you that good or did Pakistan gift wickets?

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    Chasing this score was always going to be difficult. Didn't expect us to last long today especially when an early wicket fell.

    On to the ODIs.

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    CSA Media Release: OLIVIER STRIKES EARLY TO PUT PROTEAS ON WAY TO CLEAN SWEEP

    Monday, 14 January 2019

    DUANNE OLIVIER struck twice in his second over of the morning with successive deliveries to put the Standard Bank Proteas well on their way to a 107-run victory and a 3-0 series clean sweep in the final Castle Lager Test match that finished at the Bidvest Wanderers Stadium today.

    Pakistan needed at least one of their remaining three specialist batsmen to score a century to have any chance of pulling off an upset victory but Olivier virtually eliminated that possibility by first dismissing Pakistan’s best batsman, Babar Azam, and then followed with the dismissal of captain Sarfraz Ahmed next ball.

    When Vernon Philander dismissed the remaining major batsman, Shafaq Azad (65 off 71 balls, 11 fours), the writing was on the wall and, although there was spirited resistance from Shadab Khan (47 not out, 66 balls, 7 fours), the Proteas wrapped up the innings in the morning session, requiring just one extra over when they claimed the additional half-hour to finish the contest.

    The seven remaining wickets fell for the cost of 120 runs.

    Quinton de Kock finished with seven dismissals in the match to go along with his second innings century to be named Castle Lager Man of the Match. He also finished the leading runs scorer in the series and the only one to score more than 250 runs.

    Olivier won a one-horse race to be named Castle Lager Man of the Series. His 24 wickets were only one shy of the South African record for a three-match series and came at a cost of only 14.62 runs per wicket. He took 11 wickets in the first Test, 5 in the second and 8 in the third. He had one six-wicket haul, two five-wicket hauls and one four-wicket haul.

    The Sunfoil Education Trust (SET) benefited to the tune of R684 500 from the number of fours and sixes hit and wickets taken by the two sides in the series with the final tally for the third match being 262 000. The players on both sides score income for the fund by hitting boundaries (R1 000) and sixes (R2 000) and taking wickets (R2 500).

    The focus now switches to the five-match Momentum ODI Series starting at St. George’s Park on Saturday.
    Last edited by MenInG; 14th January 2019 at 16:30.


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    His lifters were virtually unplayable, really bent his back this series
    Quote Originally Posted by Super Santi View Post
    What did Elgar do?

    Have only watched bits of pieces of this series.

    Was Olivier you that good or did Pakistan gift wickets?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sindhiboy View Post
    Thank you for being sensible. His bouncers and short balls this series were of higher quality than rabada's. Yes pak batters are cluless against short pitched bowling, but taking 24 wickets in 3 tests is not a joke.
    The thing that makes Olivier's bouncers more dangerous was because of the steep bounce of a fuller length. Rabada and Steyn do bouncers of a shorter length so easier to play if you have the technique to play short balls, you have more time to react. With Olivier the bounce is very steep of a full length, so if you do not have your defense correct for balls off your body, or do not have the correct technique to play a high ball he will always cause problems. Those balls that Olivier bowl feel a lot more painful when they hit the body than the ones from Rabada and Steyn.

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    This was not a very strong South African team and the fact that we still lost 3-0 shows just how poor we have been in this series. Batting has always been our Achilles heel but the current line up is extremely brittle and vulnerable against the rising ball. It lacks quality and depth. We are not producing any world class test batsmen any more.

    The first innings is the most crucial part of a test match and if your side keeps getting bowled out for below par (< 200) totals, you will struggle to stay in the game no matter how good or strong your bowling attack.

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    Duanne Olivier does not bowl endless bouncers in domestic cricket. Only dumb people believe that nonsense. He gets his wickets conventionality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iPakistani View Post
    Wow is this true? Shan and Babar both made about 50 short of Kohli, Babar batted with the tail alot too.

    But wow Pandya the second best with average of 19.
    oh please, you are comparing these pitches to the one India faced, ha...those were by far the toughest bowling conditions even saffers batters were struggling big time, Kohli was by far the best batsman in that series, ask anyone here what kind of pitches India got and what pitches you are having, trust me these pitches are tough but they are not as tough as the one INDIA faced last year, that is why the respect for Kohli goes tenfold as a batsman, that despite openers and pujara failing and non presence of rahane in first two matches he on his own matched South Africa and almost won one of the match, only a fool will say that India didn't compete in that series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    Not just Asians, only Pakistani. India and Sri Lanka have good batsmen to tackle this constant barrage of short balls. If someone can have a stat of the number of short balls he bowls, that would be an eye opener.

    Bowls a full length floater, and gets driven for four
    As the South Africans found out in the 3rd Test, India has speedy bowlers who can give SA a taste of its own medicine.

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    This wasn't unexpected for most to be honest.

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    Tough loss. Credit to SA, but Pak. didn't prepare well and it didn't help that Haris and Abbas were unfit.

    Anyways, who cares about Tests. It's a dying, ancient game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post

    The last time pakistan won a test in australia was 8843 days ago


    It is either a heartache or a headache ..Argh relationships.

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    Said so yesterday when we were in a supposedly good position that we'd lose comfortably. We are simply no way near good enough on top of which the preparation for the tour was terrible. We deserved what we got. It is to be expected with such an abysmal batting line up we have.


    PP's own self proclaimed sharpshooter and defender of Islam and Pakistan.

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    Just as I predicted. Pakistan may win occasional matches in white ball cricket and surprise the fans, but their Test form is a true measure of where they actually stand in world cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    Tough loss. Credit to SA, but Pak. didn't prepare well and it didn't help that Haris and Abbas were unfit.

    Anyways, who cares about Tests. It's a dying, ancient game.
    India , Australia, England, south Africa and New Zealand care for it more than other formats as it should be. And incidentally, those are the top 5 teams in tests.
    Tells you everything, doesn't it ?


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