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    Away record of all teams in South Africa, New Zealand and Australia in the past 6 years

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    Pakistan has lost 11 out of 11 test matches in sa, nz and australia in the last 6 years, even sl and wi have managed a few draws. I thought India's 8-0 was bad but this is next level stuff, 5th whitewash in last 6 years in test cricket, 2nd consecutive whitewash in south africa, Pakistan test team is at an all time low

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    Why exclude England from SENA? Just because it shows Pakistan in a better light?

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    I think this stats is misleading. You seems to have exculded some moral victories

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shandarchowka View Post
    Why exclude England from SENA? Just because it shows Pakistan in a better light?
    Maybe he is concentrating on Southern Hemisphere countries

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shandarchowka View Post
    Why exclude England from SENA? Just because it shows Pakistan in a better light?
    Who talked about SENA? I didn't exclude england because I never intended to include it in the first place, the point was to show the poor run of pakistan in 3 different countries over an extended period of time where they have failed to even draw a test, including England won't show pak in better light, instead it will show England in poor light

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    Why exclude England?


    If there is a better batsman than Sachin then he hasnít arrived yet: Viv Richards

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    Quote Originally Posted by TakeshiKovacs View Post
    Who talked about SENA? I didn't exclude england because I never intended to include it in the first place, the point was to show the poor run of pakistan in 3 different countries over an extended period of time where they have failed to even draw a test, including England won't show pak in better light, instead it will show England in poor light
    Ok, got it.


    If there is a better batsman than Sachin then he hasnít arrived yet: Viv Richards

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    Pakistan lost first test series in nz since 1984 and at home after 59 years. There is every reason Pakistan is at number 7

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    Quote Originally Posted by TakeshiKovacs View Post
    Who talked about SENA? I didn't exclude england because I never intended to include it in the first place, the point was to show the poor run of pakistan in 3 different countries over an extended period of time where they have failed to even draw a test, including England won't show pak in better light, instead it will show England in poor light
    Pakistan doing well in England but countries like India, Australia failing to do so says something, doesn't it? We've always competed well against the swinging ball. Even in New Zealand for that matter. Australia and South Africa are our Achilles' heel because of the bounce. This is a traditional trouble for Pakistan. Hopefully Mickey and team can work on that before we tour to Australia this year.

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    Pakistan cricket is a flat tyre. We can only talk.

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    The only disappointment have been Indian team in SA and English this year.. The other results were expected however this was the best chance for India to win series in these two countries but we squandered it..

    Pakistan have been atrocious in SA, Australia and NZ for long time it's nothing new.. India generally compete well in Australia barring the 4-0 series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shandarchowka View Post
    Why exclude England from SENA? Just because it shows Pakistan in a better light?
    Include England in the same time period and our W/L ratio is still better than Pakistan. .357 for India and .214 for Pakistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    Include England in the same time period and our W/L ratio is still better than Pakistan. .357 for India and .214 for Pakistan.
    Congrats Nikhil. Your best era has trumped our worst era by a margin of .143

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shandarchowka View Post
    Congrats Nikhil. Your best era has trumped our worst era by a margin of .143
    Include our worst era which included the 8-0 whitewash in 2011 . In fact, after 2011 World Cup, in SENA countries, India - 0.227 , PAK - 0.214 . Even at our worst we are marginally better

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    Include our worst era which included the 8-0 whitewash in 2011 . In fact, after 2011 World Cup, in SENA countries, India - 0.227 , PAK - 0.214 . Even at our worst we are marginally better
    This is your best era and you may have to wait another 20 years again to reach this point. I don't see India winning in Australia next time around once their batting leaders are back. India can't also win against England, their bogey team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shandarchowka View Post
    This is your best era and you may have to wait another 20 years again to reach this point. I don't see India winning in Australia next time around once their batting leaders are back. India can't also win against England, their bogey team.
    If your going by series wins, even in your greatest era , PAK could not win in Australia so what is your point? Our best era was mid 2002 to mid 2011 when our record in SENA is actually impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    If your going by series wins, even in your greatest era , PAK could not win in Australia so what is your point? Our best era was mid 2002 to mid 2011 when our record in SENA is actually impressive.
    But we drew with the greatest possible West Indies team in West Indies. That is an achievement bigger than many series triumphs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shandarchowka View Post
    But we drew with the greatest possible West Indies team in West Indies. That is an achievement bigger than many series triumphs.
    WI had key players missing.

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    Shameful result

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shandarchowka View Post
    This is your best era and you may have to wait another 20 years again to reach this point. I don't see India winning in Australia next time around once their batting leaders are back. India can't also win against England, their bogey team.
    This in not our best era

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    lost 6 in south africa , 3 in australia and 2 in NZ.


    It is either a heartache or a headache ..Argh relationships.

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    our batting is so bad that we cant even draw matches.


    It is either a heartache or a headache ..Argh relationships.

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    The match that pak has won had players missing. No Richards no Marshall. Walsh and Ambrose beginning careers.

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    It will be interesting to see what the PCB will say about the recent series loss. Cause without a doubt, this record make for embarrassing readings.

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    Pakistan's test record against NZ SA and Aus in the last 6 years is no better than a minnow

    Four tours four whitewashes. If this doesn't justify minnow status than I don't know what will. Fans need to start accepting how far we have fallen as a Cricketing nation and lower their expectations until hopefully a new generation of players come through in the next decade or so.

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    More like the last 26 years.

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    We've always been an average team... We just had superstars in the past.

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    Time to disbanded cricket completely and focus on the other sports as clearly we are not good enough .what do you say op?

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    We have always struggled in South Africa and Australia. The real disappointment was the defeat in NZ where usually do well.

    Our batting has always been poor but the real worry was our lack of skill with the new ball . We didn't often do well with the new ball on these tours.

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    Which fans are left with any expectations anymore? Or does the OP want posters here to observe worldwide maatam, lead by @Mamoon?

    I understand the rage and frustration for the loss against New Zealand. That was well-deserved. But if you didn't expect a 3-0 in South Africa, you clearly are much more patriotic than you think you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    Which fans are left with any expectations anymore? Or does the OP want posters here to observe worldwide maatam, lead by @Mamoon?

    I understand the rage and frustration for the loss against New Zealand. That was well-deserved. But if you didn't expect a 3-0 in South Africa, you clearly are much more patriotic than you think you are.
    The frustrating thing is that we didn't compete and we knew that some players aren't in the team on merit. Yet they are still picked.

    I'll be honest I don't think there is a 11 in Pakistan who can win a test series in SA. But I refuse to believe there isn't an 11 in Pakistan who can compete better than this.

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    11 losses in 11 games. Embarrasing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shandarchowka View Post
    This is your best era and you may have to wait another 20 years again to reach this point. I don't see India winning in Australia next time around once their batting leaders are back. India can't also win against England, their bogey team.
    This is definitely not the best era. A team that has washed up Vijay, instagram boy KL Rahul is definitely not the best era. India is just better than others. That's it.

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    Going forward pakistan should be demoted to 2 test series away to NZ, SA and Aus going forward until they improve or become competative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hadi123 View Post
    11 losses in 11 games. Embarrasing.
    Pakistan need to learn to go big when they have good foundation. That will result in win or at least a draw. I often see some batsmen scoring runs when match is pretty much lost. They don't contribute anything when match is in balance.

    Pakistani bowling is not great, but batting can still put runs to draw some tests. And then if bowling clicks then you get to win as well if batsmen are putting some runs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Amjid Javed View Post
    Going forward pakistan should be demoted to 2 test series away to NZ, SA and Aus going forward until they improve or become competative.
    Nah, only BD/Zim should play 2 tests. Every other team should play 3 tests. Even WI has shown willingness to fight in recent years.


    "If this happens I will swim across the Charles River! In winter!" -- OZGOD on NZ batting 6 sessions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffet View Post
    Nah, only BD/Zim should play 2 tests. Every other team should play 3 tests. Even WI has shown willingness to fight in recent years.
    BD and Pak are 0-15 LOL. Do you think a combined BD/Pak team would be more competitive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDfanforever View Post
    BD and Pak are 0-15 LOL. Do you think a combined BD/Pak team would be more competitive?
    It will be more competitive for sure with BD contributing some batsmen. How competitive? I am not sure about that.

    BD and Pakistan scoreline may look similar, but BD didn't fight at all in the last tour of SA. All matches were too one sided. I think BD needs more side A tours to adjust to conditions, but more importantly have some pacers. BD problem is not having any pacer.

    Pakistani bowling is not that great, but they can pick up wickets. BD has some batsmen who can add value so combine team will surely play better.


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    Zero draws is telling considering Pak has Azhar now and had Misyou in the last 6 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buffet View Post
    It will be more competitive for sure with BD contributing some batsmen. How competitive? I am not sure about that.

    BD and Pakistan scoreline may look similar, but BD didn't fight at all in the last tour of SA. All matches were too one sided. I think BD needs more side A tours to adjust to conditions, but more importantly have some pacers. BD problem is not having any pacer.

    Pakistani bowling is not that great, but they can pick up wickets. BD has some batsmen who can add value so combine team will surely play better.
    Yeah you are right.

    I also think combined Pak/BD team is the only team that can challenge India in India.


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