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    England [277 & 361/5d] beat Windies [154 & 252] by 232 runs in the third Test, WI win series 2-1

    After conceding the first two Tests of the three-match series against the Windies, England will look to salvage pride with a win in the final game in St Lucia, starting on Saturday, 9 February.

    Overview

    Windies v England
    3rd Test
    Daren Sammy National Cricket Stadium, Gros Islet, St Lucia
    Saturday, 9 February; 10:00 local time, 14:00 GMT

    The visitors have found it difficult to cope with the intensity of the Windies, who have dominated all departments, and have been particularly exceptional with the ball. Their bowlers have picked up all 40 wickets on offer so far, restricting England to totals below 200 three out of four times.

    Kemar Roach has been splendid, and is the top wicket-taker of the series with 13 scalps at 12.07. Roston Chase and Alzarri Joseph have been excellent, with eight and seven wickets respectively. And with their batting going good – almost every batsman has contributed at different points – the home side has provided a visceral thrill.

    This time around, however, they have to cope with a major blow – the unavailability of captain Jason Holder, who has been suspended for an over-rate offence. He scored a masterful double-century in Barbados, and has led from the front in crucial moments during the series. Kraigg Brathwaite will stand in as captain, but England will be buoyed.

    The visitors, however, have plenty of issues to solve, foremost among them the need for a stable opening partner for Rory Burns. Joe Denly, who replaced the out-of-form Keaton Jennings in the second Test, scored just 6 and 17 in Antigua.

    Joe Root, the England captain, has also been unable to bring his best to the fore so far, with scores of 22, 4, 7 and 7. Burns and middle-order batsman Jonny Bairstow have been England's best bets with the bat, but even they have averaged under 30 so far.

    Jimmy Anderson and Stuart Broad have carried a bulk of the responsibility with the ball, but will need support from the rest of the line-up in St Lucia. Sam Curran has under-performed so far and will be desperate to improve.


    Key players

    Kemar Roach (Windies): The right-arm seamer has been on fire in the series, crippling England's batsmen with his raw pace. His match-winning performance in the second Test helped him climb eight spots in the MRF Tyres ICC Test Rankings for bowlers and he currently sits at No.12. His contribution with the ball in the final game will be particularly important in Holder's absence.

    Joe Root (England): Despite poor scores so far, Root remains England's best chance of turning their fortunes around in St Lucia. The captain, who slipped out of the top five in the MRF Tyres ICC Test Rankings for batsmen, will be keen to play a big innings in the final Test and end the series on a high.

    Conditions

    It is expected to be cloudy in St Lucia at the time of the toss, which might help the fast bowlers early on. Rain is forecast on the third and fourth days.

    Squads

    Windies: Kraigg Brathwaite(c), Darren Bravo, Shamarh Brooks, Shimron Hetmyer, Shai Hope, Shane Dowrich, Keemo Paul, John Campbell, Roston Chase, Shannon Gabriel, Alzarri Joseph, Kemar Roach, Jomel Warrican, Oshane Thomas

    England: Joe Root (c), Moeen Ali, James Anderson, Jonny Bairstow, Stuart Broad, Rory Burns, Jos Buttler, Sam Curran, Joe Denly, Ben Stokes, Keaton Jennings, Mark Wood

    https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/1049733


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    Interestingly , WI bowling coach Drake says fastest pitch in the Caribbean . Would be fantastic if they play Oshane instead of all rounder Keemo . Not a fan of a all rounder at 8 theory .
    England again going for Moeen at 8 . They continue to pack side with bowlers who can bat & will not play 4 specialist bowlers .
    Recent weather update shows showers on all 5 days which is a dampener .

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    Apparently Ben Foakes will be dropped. Bairstow will take the gloves and bat at 7. Jennings will open.

    England are in a mess. Australia seem to be in a better state than them ahead of The Ashes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILcricket View Post
    England again going for Moeen at 8 . They continue to pack side with bowlers who can bat & will not play 4 specialist bowlers .
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    I will say it again - Moeen is the best spinner in England. If they play a spinner at all it has to be him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Apparently Ben Foakes will be dropped. Bairstow will take the gloves and bat at 7. Jennings will open.

    England are in a mess. Australia seem to be in a better state than them ahead of The Ashes.
    A backward step to pick the inferior keeper. England once again sacrifice a strength (Foakes) to patch a weakness (lack of a test #3).

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    Odds are always going to be loaded against keepers who cannot offer more with bat. It's not like Bairstow drops dollies.

    I also feel playing keepers as a full time batsmen affects other aspects of their game. They feel under extra pressure to justify their spot. I think I noticed this with Pant with Dhoni wielding the gloves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILcricket View Post
    Interestingly , WI bowling coach Drake says fastest pitch in the Caribbean . Would be fantastic if they play Oshane instead of all rounder Keemo . Not a fan of a all rounder at 8 theory .
    England again going for Moeen at 8 . They continue to pack side with bowlers who can bat & will not play 4 specialist bowlers .
    Recent weather update shows showers on all 5 days which is a dampener .
    If the genuine bowler is as poor or worse than an all rounder in tests then I would stick with an all rounder any day.

    Point is England doesnt have any top quality spinners in tests, leech was decent for them recently in Srl tests but I am not sure about the difference in quality of him and Ali with bowl.

    But, for Sam Curran they could gave definitely gone for someone pacy like Stone, Mark Wood or Jamie Overton from the very start of the series as WI pitches dont suit Curran style of bowling while a bowler who can be consistently above 140 and can touch mid to high 140 kph coukd have made a difference in the series.

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    I would like to see Mark Wood playing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    I will say it again - Moeen is the best spinner in England. If they play a spinner at all it has to be him.
    Exactly, never understood the talk of playing specialists. If an all rounder is a better bowler than a specialist bowler than should you play a specialist just for the sake of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    A backward step to pick the inferior keeper. England once again sacrifice a strength (Foakes) to patch a weakness (lack of a test #3).
    I agree. Foakes has done a good job. Bairstow should be batting up the order. Think having all this batting depth will backfire on England away from home.

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    West Indies have won the toss and have opted to bowl first.

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    Windies (Playing XI): Kraigg Brathwaite(c), John Campbell, Shai Hope, Darren Bravo, Roston Chase, Shimron Hetmyer, Shane Dowrich(w), Keemo Paul, Kemar Roach, Alzarri Joseph, Shannon Gabriel
    England (Playing XI): Rory Burns, Keaton Jennings, Joe Denly, Joe Root(c), Jonny Bairstow(w), Ben Stokes, Jos Buttler, Moeen Ali, Mark Wood, Stuart Broad, James Anderson

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    Pitch does appear to be a better or rather calmer than one at Antigua .

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    Finally England playing right amount of Pacers for conditions.

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    Jimmy has 78 & Stokes 77 overs in first 2 Tests .

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    looks a win toss bat first pitch .

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    Quote Originally Posted by ILcricket View Post
    Jimmy has 78 & Stokes 77 overs in first 2 Tests .
    Jimmy is a machine but why risk MVP like Stokes when only thing left to play for is pride(debatable).

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    Jennings should not be opening in the ashes. I don’t see him lasting against the Australian attack. I think England maybe reliant on their lower in the ashes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JattMaula View Post
    Jimmy is a machine but why risk MVP like Stokes when only thing left to play for is pride(debatable).
    4 bowlers + Stokes + Moeen would have been ideal .
    Flat pitch & bad decision to bowl first . Showers forecast on all days , perhaps a draw here

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    Some excellent analysis from Butcher and Key during this rain delay.

    ENG batsmen need to get in the mentality of scoring ugly runs. You have to respect the opposition bowlers and the conditions - not bat in a pre-determined manner.

    This excuse that limited overs cricket is ruining Test techniques is nonsense - the top batsmen know how to adapt between the formats.

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    Detestable decision by England to drop Foakes and retain Bairstow. Man of the series in Sri Lanka, kept wicket beyond reproach, yet dropped for a crybaby with a precocious tendency to get bowled. Underscores the fact that this is a loathsome England team with a coward in charge who can't drop his mates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Monetarist View Post
    Detestable decision by England to drop Foakes and retain Bairstow. Man of the series in Sri Lanka, kept wicket beyond reproach, yet dropped for a crybaby with a precocious tendency to get bowled. Underscores the fact that this is a loathsome England team with a coward in charge who can't drop his mates.
    The problem is there's too many batsmen wanting to bat at 6, 7 and 8.

    In Buttler, Bairstow, Moeen, Stokes, Woakes, Foakes and Curran you have seven players who can conceivably bat in those three positions.

    The lack of top three specialists is killing England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Apparently Ben Foakes will be dropped. Bairstow will take the gloves and bat at 7. Jennings will open.

    England are in a mess. Australia seem to be in a better state than them ahead of The Ashes.
    England have had a tough couple of weeks but they are in a far better position, especially at home, than this ramshackle Aussie side, even with the return of Smith.

    As for Foakes, Bairstow is just as effective as keeper and a better/more experienced bat. My issue is, why is he playing down at 7? He should be at 3, a position England have a serious problem with. I also dislike the return of Wood who just is not good enough for this level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Some excellent analysis from Butcher and Key during this rain delay.

    ENG batsmen need to get in the mentality of scoring ugly runs. You have to respect the opposition bowlers and the conditions - not bat in a pre-determined manner.

    This excuse that limited overs cricket is ruining Test techniques is nonsense - the top batsmen know how to adapt between the formats.
    Flat slow pitch here , looks like visitors might end up scoring 400 here .

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    Quote Originally Posted by barah_admi View Post
    England have had a tough couple of weeks but they are in a far better position, especially at home, than this ramshackle Aussie side, even with the return of Smith.

    As for Foakes, Bairstow is just as effective as keeper and a better/more experienced bat. My issue is, why is he playing down at 7? He should be at 3, a position England have a serious problem with. I also dislike the return of Wood who just is not good enough for this level.

    Foakes is a better keeper than Bairstow. England need Bairstow batting more than his glove work. They are worried about not getting runs from their lower order hence his selection.

    Australia are in a good position. They have Burns ,Warner,Renshaw,and Haris to choose as openers. Smith ,Khawaja,and Head in the middle order. With Handscomb,Patterson,and Labuschagne also fighting for a spot. Maxwell could also be selected if he does well in his spell in county cricket. Don't need to talk about the strength of the bowling attack.

    Australia have lots of opitions. England have no clue on their order and not many choices for the top 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Foakes is a better keeper than Bairstow. England need Bairstow batting more than his glove work. They are worried about not getting runs from their lower order hence his selection.

    Australia are in a good position. They have Burns ,Warner,Renshaw,and Haris to choose as openers. Smith ,Khawaja,and Head in the middle order. With Handscomb,Patterson,and Labuschagne also fighting for a spot. Maxwell could also be selected if he does well in his spell in county cricket. Don't need to talk about the strength of the bowling attack.

    Australia have lots of opitions. England have no clue on their order and not many choices for the top 3.
    England in home conditions will have Stokes, Ali, possibly Rashid, Jimmy, Broad and Curran in their bowling line up. The Aussies have a better spinner in Lyon but Starc has looked toothless in recent times and the other are either not regulars or far too injury prone.

    The batting line up may seem at odds now but the likes of Root, Bairstowm Buttler, Stokes, Ali are all performers and will come good again.

    I think Foakes may be a slightly better keeper yes, but it is not like Bairstow drops howlers on a regular basis. Id rather he be in the team but batting at 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Foakes is a better keeper than Bairstow. England need Bairstow batting more than his glove work. They are worried about not getting runs from their lower order hence his selection.

    Australia are in a good position. They have Burns ,Warner,Renshaw,and Haris to choose as openers. Smith ,Khawaja,and Head in the middle order. With Handscomb,Patterson,and Labuschagne also fighting for a spot. Maxwell could also be selected if he does well in his spell in county cricket. Don't need to talk about the strength of the bowling attack.

    Australia have lots of opitions. England have no clue on their order and not many choices for the top 3.
    Australia were seen as the favourites for the 2015 Ashes and got blown away. The combination of the swinging Dukes and slow seamers that England prepared was too much for them.

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    Keaton Jennings - what a dud against pace.

    I'd take Shan Masood and Imam-ul-Haq over him any day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    The problem is there's too many batsmen wanting to bat at 6, 7 and 8.

    In Buttler, Bairstow, Moeen, Stokes, Woakes, Foakes and Curran you have seven players who can conceivably bat in those three positions.

    The lack of top three specialists is killing England.
    Oh I agree, it all stems from having no top-order specialists and Root's aversion to batting at 3.

    But it sends a horrible message to drop Foakes, who is clearly the best wicketkeeper in the country and has performed creditably with the bat, for someone who averages less than 30 with the bat over the last 12 months and also hasn't been reserved at voicing the fact that he wants Foakes to fail so that he can regain the gloves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Monetarist View Post
    Oh I agree, it all stems from having no top-order specialists and Root's aversion to batting at 3.

    But it sends a horrible message to drop Foakes, who is clearly the best wicketkeeper in the country and has performed creditably with the bat, for someone who averages less than 30 with the bat over the last 12 months and also hasn't been reserved at voicing the fact that he wants Foakes to fail so that he can regain the gloves.
    I agree, the team management have been grossly unfair on both Foakes and Leach.

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    ENG 30/0 (16.0 Ovs) CRR: 1.88
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    First ball Keemo strikes !

    I feel for Keaton Jennings, it's never nice seeing youngsters fail but he is woeful against seam.

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    1 down. JEnnings lucky innings has come to an end. Keemo paul strikes first ball

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    Jennings gone. Awais Zia will be a better opener then him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Australia were seen as the favourites for the 2015 Ashes and got blown away. The combination of the swinging Dukes and slow seamers that England prepared was too much for them.
    @Markhor, three of them were normal English seaming wickets and two were dry and crusty. The Aussies won on one of the seamers and one of the crusties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barah_admi View Post
    England have had a tough couple of weeks but they are in a far better position, especially at home, than this ramshackle Aussie side, even with the return of Smith.

    As for Foakes, Bairstow is just as effective as keeper and a better/more experienced bat. My issue is, why is he playing down at 7? He should be at 3, a position England have a serious problem with. I also dislike the return of Wood who just is not good enough for this level.
    Bairstow doesn't have the technique to bat at #3. For a very good player, he is being bowled one innings in four which is extraordinary. He doesn't even average 40 in tests.

    I'm tired of the bloke and I think England should only pick him in ODIs from now on.

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    Will England be able to avoid whitewash?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    A backward step to pick the inferior keeper. England once again sacrifice a strength (Foakes) to patch a weakness (lack of a test #3).
    Maybe, Foakes is more "droppable" than Barstow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Monetarist View Post
    Oh I agree, it all stems from having no top-order specialists and Root's aversion to batting at 3.

    But it sends a horrible message to drop Foakes, who is clearly the best wicketkeeper in the country and has performed creditably with the bat, for someone who averages less than 30 with the bat over the last 12 months and also hasn't been reserved at voicing the fact that he wants Foakes to fail so that he can regain the gloves.
    Root averages 40 at #3, 48 at #4, and a whopping #73 at #5, though he was coming in behind KP then.

    Putting him at #3 would be sacrificing another strength to plug another weakness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Root averages 40 at #3, 48 at #4, and a whopping #73 at #5, though he was coming in behind KP then.

    Putting him at #3 would be sacrificing another strength to plug another weakness.
    I think Root's overall average has been trending downwards since he became captain. He averages 35 since his return to 4 last year. That's the bigger concern in my view.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Monetarist View Post
    I think Root's overall average has been trending downwards since he became captain. He averages 35 since his return to 4 last year. That's the bigger concern in my view.
    Sure, we need his run-making power back and for that reason I would make Buttler skipper. Really Morgan should have been test skipper years ago.

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    Seems like a fairly ordinary decision to bowl first on this pitch. England should be able to score 300 easily on here.

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    WI need wickets here , the partnership looking dangerous.

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    second down

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    And third!

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    3rd wicket goes too. England crumbling again.

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    two quick wickets here .

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    Thank God for England...they make us look good!

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    England have good depth in batting , Moeen coming at number 8

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    Butler lucky ..... it was a dropped chance

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    WI would be looking to strike again here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Australia were seen as the favourites for the 2015 Ashes and got blown away. The combination of the swinging Dukes and slow seamers that England prepared was too much for them.
    The games will be played during August. Another hot summer is expected so those type of pitches may not be on offer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barah_admi View Post
    England in home conditions will have Stokes, Ali, possibly Rashid, Jimmy, Broad and Curran in their bowling line up. The Aussies have a better spinner in Lyon but Starc has looked toothless in recent times and the other are either not regulars or far too injury prone.

    The batting line up may seem at odds now but the likes of Root, Bairstowm Buttler, Stokes, Ali are all performers and will come good again.

    I think Foakes may be a slightly better keeper yes, but it is not like Bairstow drops howlers on a regular basis. Id rather he be in the team but batting at 3.
    England are the favourites I agree but people think Australia will just role over are delusional. Also a lot of the Australian players will be playing county cricket.

    I don't doubt those batters you mentioned but England's top 3 isn't good enough.

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    27 runs partnership so far

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    These two looking solid so far. WI would want to break this partnership quickly

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    Stokes batting well on 42* at the moment. Taking the fight to the Windies bowlers.

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    Missing Holder for sure

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    England player gets fifty shock....

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    England's day.

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    WI are slowing down. Day of missed chances for them, and England will win the test from here. Congrats Robert and other English fans.

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    Good fightback by England to close 231/4.

    Some missed chances for Windies too.



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    Moeen Ali pushed down the order again. England need to give their regulars set positions in the batting order and then try out newer players for the positions they need filled.

    Joe Root at 4, Bairstow at 5, Stokes at 6, Ali at 7 and one of Woakes or Curran at 8. I'm not sold on Buttler as a test-class player. Foakes is the better keeper and should have played over him. That also frees up Bairstow to reach his potential as a batsman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilal7 View Post
    Moeen Ali pushed down the order again. England need to give their regulars set positions in the batting order and then try out newer players for the positions they need filled.

    Joe Root at 4, Bairstow at 5, Stokes at 6, Ali at 7 and one of Woakes or Curran at 8. I'm not sold on Buttler as a test-class player. Foakes is the better keeper and should have played over him. That also frees up Bairstow to reach his potential as a batsman.
    That would be a mistake. Bairstow has flopped as a specialist batsman. Buttler has been Englands best bat since his return.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Bairstow doesn't have the technique to bat at #3. For a very good player, he is being bowled one innings in four which is extraordinary. He doesn't even average 40 in tests.

    I'm tired of the bloke and I think England should only pick him in ODIs from now on.
    Bairstow has a century and a fifty at 3 so I see no reason why he should not be persisted at in a position where the team has no one. The great shame of his career is that he is consistently moved from position to position. Someone only a couple innings removed from a century should be allowed to bat there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    England are the favourites I agree but people think Australia will just role over are delusional. Also a lot of the Australian players will be playing county cricket.

    I don't doubt those batters you mentioned but England's top 3 isn't good enough.
    I don't think Australia will roll over either, my point was that England are currently in a better position than the Aussies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barah_admi View Post
    I don't think Australia will roll over either, my point was that England are currently in a better position than the Aussies.

    England are only favourites because they are at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barah_admi View Post
    Bairstow has a century and a fifty at 3 so I see no reason why he should not be persisted at in a position where the team has no one. The great shame of his career is that he is consistently moved from position to position. Someone only a couple innings removed from a century should be allowed to bat there.
    The century was against a very weak SL.

    The bloke has the highest clean bowled percentage of any major player I have seen. He’s not the #3, not got the technique.

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    Good to see the England middle show some ticker fir a change. Stokes took guard on off instead of middle - seems to have helped him dig in.

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    England allrounder Ben Stokes was bizarrely recalled despite crossing the field of play after being caught and bowled by Alzarri Joseph on Day 1 of the third Test against West Indies in St Lucia.

    During the 70th over, Stokes pulled a short delivery back to the Joseph who did well to grab onto a fairly difficult catch off his own bowling.

    A disappointed Stokes left the field after making 52, leaving England 194/5. England’s No. 7 Jonny Bairstow had already made his way to the middle when replay on the big screen at the ground revealed Joseph had overstepped and thereby had bowled a no ball.

    Third umpire Chris Gaffaney altered his on-field counterpart Rod Tucker about it who in turn signalled the no-ball meaning Stokes, who had already climbed up the pavilion stairs, had to return.

    The dramatic turn of events left everyone confused. However, what transpired was perfectly within the new rules that allow for a batter to be recalled even if he/she has stepped out of the field of play, provided the next ball hasn’t been delivered after dismissal.

    The erstwhile rule would have prevented any such reversal. However, in April 2017, the Marylebone Cricket Club (MCC) introduced Law 31.7 which deals with the possibility of batsmen “leaving the wicket under a misapprehension”.

    As per the new code, which came into effect from October 2017, “An umpire shall intervene if satisfied that a batsman, not having been given out, has left the wicket under a misapprehension of being out. The umpire intervening shall call and signal Dead ball to prevent any further action by the fielding side and shall recall the batsman.

    “A batsman may be recalled at any time up to the instant when the ball comes into play for the next delivery, unless it is the final wicket of the innings, in which case it should be up to the instant when the umpires leave the field.”

    Stokes remained unbeaten on 62 alongside Jos Buttler (67*) as the duo lead England’s recovery after they were reduced to 107/4 to finish Day 1 at 231/4 in 83 overs.

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    England are in a solid position here and 1-2 is definitely a better outcome to aim for from the series than 0-3, but honestly it doesn’t matter at this point. To say it took this long for England to give their loyal travelling and big-spending fans something to cheer (the Stokes & Buttler partnership) shows what an utterly abysmal tour this has been.

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    Buttler-Stokes finally showing up and England certainly in good position in this test match. However, they need to work on top 3 issue if they have to become the best team in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ab Fan View Post
    Buttler-Stokes finally showing up and England certainly in good position in this test match. However, they need to work on top 3 issue if they have to become the best team in the world.
    If you look round the CC the cupboard is bare. Root is the one world class specialist batter and the rest aren’t even test class.

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    i guess 375+ gives visitors a good chance here .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    If you look round the CC the cupboard is bare. Root is the one world class specialist batter and the rest aren’t even test class.
    I think Bairstow is certainly world-class but more suitable at 4-5 just like Root.

    Stokes is a world-class all rounder while Buttler is a test-class as well but he needs to work on his defensive game to really become a world class specialist batsmen. He plays spin well, which helps as well.

    Root, Bairstow and Buttler have to play as specialists and bat at 3, 4 and 5. All three suits at 4 or 5 but one has to bat at 3 among the trio. Then Stokes at 6, Foakes at 7 and Moeen/Curran/Woakes(depending on form and conditions) can come in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ab Fan View Post
    I think Bairstow is certainly world-class but more suitable at 4-5 just like Root.

    Stokes is a world-class all rounder while Buttler is a test-class as well but he needs to work on his defensive game to really become a world class specialist batsmen. He plays spin well, which helps as well.
    Bairstow doesn’t average 40 in tests.

    I think the bar for “world class” is lower these days. To me that means Imran, Botham, Kapil, Kallis. Stokes is good but not in their league.

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    England 257/6 (95.0 Ovs) - Current Run Rate: 2.71

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    277/9 now. Windies have bowled brilliantly with the second new ball.

    All now comes down to the Windies first innings batting performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    277/9 now. Windies have bowled brilliantly with the second new ball.

    All now comes down to the Windies first innings batting performance.
    All out now. What a collapse. Last I checked they were 6 down


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