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    Brilliant to see young bowlers like Hasain, Musa, Shaheen and Rauf leading the speed charts. They will only get faster.

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    Hasan Ali's 1st over: 141kph, 138kph, 143kph, 146kph, 143kph, 142kph

    2nd over: ?, 140kph, ?, ?, 124kph, 142kph

    3rd over: ?, 138kph, 123kph, 124kph, 122kph, 141kph

    4th over: ?, 142kph, 142kph, 127kph, 146kph, 125kph
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    Wahab Riaz's 1st over: 148kph, 144kph, ?, ?, 149kph, 149kph, 143kph

    2nd over: 145kph, 147kph, 147kph, 151kph, 148kph, 123kph, 150kph

    3rd over: ?, ?, 146kph, 147kph, ?, ?
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    Fastest Balls of PSL 4 uptil now :


    1. Tymal Mills 152 kph

    2. Wahab Riaz 151.2 kph

    3. Tymal Mills 151 kph

    4. Mohammad Hasnain 150.54 kph

    5. Wahab Riaz 150.2 kph

    6. Wahab Riaz 149 kph

    7. Haris Rauf 149 kph

    8. Haris Rauf 148.3 kph

    9. Mohammad Hasnain 148 kph

    10. Muhammad Musa 148 kph

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    Quote Originally Posted by NavSheikh786 View Post
    From what I have collected so far, here are the quickest bowlers of PS4 so far -
    Tymal Mills - 152kph
    Mohammed Husnain - 151kph
    Wahab Riaz - 150kph
    Haris Rauf - 149kph
    Aaron Summers - 148.5kph
    Mohammed Irfan Snr - 148kph
    Mohammed Musa - 148kph
    Shaheen Shah Afridi - 147kph
    Mohammed Sami - 147kph
    Usman Shinwari - 146kph
    Viljoen - 146kph
    Hassan Ali - 146kph
    Sameen Gul - 146kph
    Mohammed Amir - 145kph
    Junaid Khan - 144kph
    Sohail Khan - 144kph
    Faheem Ashraf - 144kph
    great job man.. really appreciate your effort

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    So there are at least ten bowlers in Pakistan capable of touching 90 mph

    That must be the highest in the world.

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    LOL south africa has like twenty

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    To be honest bowling the one delivery in the late 140's, early 150's doesn't count. It is the average speed which matters and if that is in the high 140's, early 150's then we are talking

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    Hasan Ali's 1st over: 141kph, 140kph, 145kph, ?, 144kph, 145kph

    2nd over: 137kph, ?, 138kph, 137kph, ?, 137kph
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    Hasnain isn't unique pace wise. People just have impression that he's so quick because of one delivery at 151. He's no different to Musa
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    Quote Originally Posted by ataullah View Post
    Hasnain isn't unique pace wise. People just have impression that he's so quick because of one delivery at 151. He's no different to Musa
    Hasnain is 6 inches taller then Musa that is huge when was the last time we had 6 foot plus pacer who bowled 90 mph

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    To be honest bowling the one delivery in the late 140's, early 150's doesn't count. It is the average speed which matters and if that is in the high 140's, early 150's then we are talking
    The 1st lesson which i learnt on PP as a young poster was that not even Shoaib Akhtar or Brett lee averaged in early 150s. Maximum is mid 140s. Talking about average speed here. Not peak pace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    The 1st lesson which i learnt on PP as a young poster was that not even Shoaib Akhtar or Brett lee averaged in early 150s. Maximum is mid 140s. Talking about average speed here. Not peak pace.
    Yea righ but when on song they can hurl out am entire spell in 150ks though but its like 3 overs and one per series though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ataullah View Post
    Hasnain isn't unique pace wise. People just have impression that he's so quick because of one delivery at 151. He's no different to Musa
    Dude. He is 18 years old..

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    Quote Originally Posted by muhammad saad View Post
    Yea righ but when on song they can hurl out am entire spell in 150ks though but its like 3 overs and one per series though.
    Show me a video of Shoaib Akhtar bowling an entire over above 150kph let alone an entire spell like you are claiming.


    Akhtar was a freak of nature but even he hung around at 145-150kph for most of his deliveries with the odd effort bowl in the 152-155kph range.

    Heck I'm sure Akhtar has very very few balls in his entire career that were clocked at over 155kph. People always tend to hype up players of yesteryears.



    Hasnain may never be as pacy as Akhtar but he is plenty pacy and has all the right ingredients to be an excellent bowler for Pak. I'm excited for him even more than Shaheen (who is a great bowler in the making as well)


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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Show me a video of Shoaib Akhtar bowling an entire over above 150kph let alone an entire spell like you are claiming.


    Akhtar was a freak of nature but even he hung around at 145-150kph for most of his deliveries with the odd effort bowl in the 152-155kph range.

    Heck I'm sure Akhtar has very very few balls in his entire career that were clocked at over 155kph. People always tend to hype up players of yesteryears.



    Hasnain may never be as pacy as Akhtar but he is plenty pacy and has all the right ingredients to be an excellent bowler for Pak. I'm excited for him even more than Shaheen (who is a great bowler in the making as well)
    Shoaib and Lee in their primes would operate at 145-148 km/hr on average in their second spell onwards and could crank up the effort delivery at 154-155 km/hr. In their opening spells they would start off at 150-154 km/hr. And both would bowl very heavy balls, they would both hit the bat hard and got very good bounce.

    The youngsters we talk off today ball the effort delivery at 148-150 km/hr but operate on average at 138-141 km/hr. Thats a big difference.

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    To be honest, Musa is the guy i like, he has a good built and he also effortlessly cranks it up without putting tremendous strain on his body and action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Akhtar was a freak of nature but even he hung around at 145-150kph for most of his deliveries with the odd effort bowl in the 152-155kph range.

    Heck I'm sure Akhtar has very very few balls in his entire career that were clocked at over 155kph. People always tend to hype up players of yesteryears.


    first three wickets, were all 150 plus, then his speed slowly tailed off

    he bowled numerous opening three or four over spells in odis with a lot of balls at 150 to 155 when he was young.

    to contextualise he pbly bowled numerous spells where his deliveries would end up making the top 10 of the psl chart in one spell between 98 and 2001.

    after that he became the bowler you describe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Show me a video of Shoaib Akhtar bowling an entire over above 150kph let alone an entire spell like you are claiming.


    Akhtar was a freak of nature but even he hung around at 145-150kph for most of his deliveries with the odd effort bowl in the 152-155kph range.

    Heck I'm sure Akhtar has very very few balls in his entire career that were clocked at over 155kph. People always tend to hype up players of yesteryears.



    Hasnain may never be as pacy as Akhtar but he is plenty pacy and has all the right ingredients to be an excellent bowler for Pak. I'm excited for him even more than Shaheen (who is a great bowler in the making as well)
    By entire spell I mean most(more than 60%) of his deliveries above 150k , for 3 or 4 over spell and he has done it plenty of times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muhammad saad View Post
    Yea righ but when on song they can hurl out am entire spell in 150ks though but its like 3 overs and one per series though.
    Hasnain is 18 Shoaib only became consistently quick from 1999 when he was already 23 LEE also made his debut at 22 how many bowlers in U 19 world cup have you seen bowling bowling Hasnian's pace?

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    It's close to impossible to get another Shoaib Akhtar or a Brett Lee in such a short span of time. They were freaks, and played considerably less cricket in comparison to the players today. I would have backed Lockie Ferguson to touch those heights, but it's impossible to be as consistent as Akhtar or Lee were with the amount of cricket played nowadays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    It's close to impossible to get another Shoaib Akhtar or a Brett Lee in such a short span of time. They were freaks, and played considerably less cricket in comparison to the players today. I would have backed Lockie Ferguson to touch those heights, but it's impossible to be as consistent as Akhtar or Lee were with the amount of cricket played nowadays.
    Well that depends. The likes of Australia and South Africa are the best when it comes to monitoring and handling the work loads of their super fast bowlers. They rest their key 140-150 km/hr plus pacers from useless ODI's and T-20's and only play them in crucial series or ODI's or in the ICC tournaments at best.

    Pakistan on the other hand has been bowling their pacers to the ground inspite of having pace options on the bench. The policy should be to get 50-60 test matches out of a fast bowler throughout his career in total instead of 100 test matches but make sure in each and every game he plays he operates at 140-150 km/hr plus and does not slow down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Well that depends. The likes of Australia and South Africa are the best when it comes to monitoring and handling the work loads of their super fast bowlers. They rest their key 140-150 km/hr plus pacers from useless ODI's and T-20's and only play them in crucial series or ODI's or in the ICC tournaments at best.

    Pakistan on the other hand has been bowling their pacers to the ground inspite of having pace options on the bench. The policy should be to get 50-60 test matches out of a fast bowler throughout his career in total instead of 100 test matches but make sure in each and every game he plays he operates at 140-150 km/hr plus and does not slow down.
    Pat Cummins is their quickest pacer on average, but he is nowhere near a speed demon. Australia has had massive issues keeping Starc, Hazlewood and Cummins fit. So this player workload management thing is just a bunch of words.

    Pakistan's approach is even worse I agree. We have been lucky that our players are holding up, or I suspect our players are not entirely honest about any niggles they are carrying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoib View Post
    Hasnain is 18 Shoaib only became consistently quick from 1999 when he was already 23 LEE also made his debut at 22 how many bowlers in U 19 world cup have you seen bowling bowling Hasnian's pace?
    Haven't seen a single pacer whose really 18 and clocking 148 and 150k respectively (Thats include Shoaib , Tait and Lee) (Musa and Hasnain) but the question is whether they are really 18 or not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by muhammad saad View Post
    Haven't seen a single pacer whose really 18 and clocking 148 and 150k respectively (Thats include Shoaib , Tait and Lee) (Musa and Hasnain) but the question is whether they are really 18 or not?
    was Shoaib really 23 this is a time period when it was easier to play around with the ages.

    Looking at Hasnain, Musa, Shaheen, Nasim Shah one thing they all have in common is a very fresh teenager face unlike say a Rashid Khan so if not 18 all them look closer to 20 which means if they work on their fitness and stay motivated all of them have atleast 5 more years to reach their peak pace.

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    From what i saw, Hasnain was clocking between 145-150 in the first couple of games and his pace dropped to 135-145 with the odd ball at 146/147 for the remaining games. Maybe this is due to fitness, injury or accuracy. Guess we will see if he gets a game against Australia if he is bowling the 135-145 or 140-150 range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NavSheikh786 View Post
    From what i saw, Hasnain was clocking between 145-150 in the first couple of games and his pace dropped to 135-145 with the odd ball at 146/147 for the remaining games. Maybe this is due to fitness, injury or accuracy. Guess we will see if he gets a game against Australia if he is bowling the 135-145 or 140-150 range.

    In last 2,3 matches both his Average & Top Speeds were abit lower than first 4,5 games. In first 4,5 matches he bowled a number of deliveries above 144 kph and in each match top speeds were 148-149 kph. Whereas in last 2-3 matches he bowled few deliveries above 144 kph with top speed of 146 147 kph.


    I don't think he has intensionally slowed down because He wants to bowl quick. I think he might be having a niggle.


    If he has a niggle than he should not be making his debut before 3rd Odi vs Aus so that when He makes his Debut he is 100 % fit, fully fresh & charged up.


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