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    Saudi Arabia has pledged investment deals worth $20bn (15.5bn) with Pakistan

    Saudi Arabia has pledged investment deals worth $20bn (15.5bn) with Pakistan which is seeking to bolster its fragile economy.

    It comes as part of a high-profile Asian tour by the kingdom's Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman.

    Pakistan urgently needs to address a balance of payments crisis and is looking to international backers for support.

    The deals include an $8bn oil refinery in the key port city of Gwadar.

    The two sides signed several other provisional agreements and memorandums of understanding in the energy, petrochemicals and mining sectors, according to reports.

    "It's big for phase one, and definitely it will grow every month and every year, and it will be beneficial to both countries," the crown prince said.

    Pakistan is desperate for cash. The south Asian country's central bank has only $8bn left in foreign reserves and faces a balance of payments crisis.

    Prime Minister Imran Khan has been seeking help from friendly countries in order to cut the size of the bailout package his country is likely to need from the International Monetary Fund, under very strict conditions.

    The country is seeking its 13th bailout since the late 1980s and Saudi Arabia has already provided a $6bn loan.

    Charm offensive
    Pakistan is the first stop on an Asian tour by the crown prince, known as MBS. He is scheduled to be in India by Tuesday and will visit China on Thursday and Friday.

    The prince is seeking to recast his international image in the wake of the Jamal Khashoggi affair. The journalist was murdered at the Saudi consulate in Istanbul in October.

    Pakistan needs Saudi money to stave off a huge IMF bail-out - but this is not a one-way relationship
    Against this backdrop, the current tour can be seen as a charm offensive by MBS, who is seeking to bolster relationships with dependable allies as he doles out cash, says the BBC's Abid Hussain.

    While Pakistan stands to benefit from Saudi Arabia's largesse, the south Asian country is also important to the kingdom.

    The two countries have a long-standing military relationship and the MBS visit comes at a time when geopolitics in the region are shifting - including concerns over the influence of Iran.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-47274672


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    Even if it's half whats promised- it will be a great start. Money coming in, creating high paid jobs and 1000's of support jobs. Well done IK and the PTI.

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    Great day in Pakistan history

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    sooner or later we will be fighting their wars
    Last edited by Zeeraq; 19th February 2019 at 21:38.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post




    sooner or later we will be fighting their wars
    Pakistan will only protect Saudia Arabia as a country and not fight its wars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King-Misbah View Post
    Pakistan will only protect Saudia Arabia as a country and not fight its wars.
    Which is exactly what Imran Khan said in an interview with Al-Arabiya.

    But don't let that get in the way of bitter nooras and pppatwari upset that Imran Khan has done more for Pakistan in 6 months than their champions have done for their corrupt selves

    http://english.alarabiya.net/en/feat...ran-Khan.html#

    Al Arabiya: Back again to what you mentioned about the missiles and the military field, as Saudi crown prince is coming to Islamabad, will there be more, military-wise, relations or MoUs between Pakistan and Saudi Arabia?

    Imran Khan: Saudi Arabia, with Mecca and Medina there, I can assure you that- forget our military- the people of Pakistan would want to defend Saudi Arabia if anything happens to them. That you can rest assured. But you see for Pakistan, the role we want to play now is that we want to play the role of a country that brings other countries together.

    This whole division in the Muslim world, Muslims fighting Muslims. You just look back in the last 15 years, the devastation that has taken place in the Muslim world. The last thing we want is more conflicts. Pakistan wants to play the role, and Pakistan can play the role because Pakistan has probably one of the best militaries. We are a nuclear armed country, we have a military that just won us a very difficult war on terror where almost 70,000 Pakistanis lost their lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post




    sooner or later we will be fighting their wars
    This is not charity, this is investment: Saudi foreign minister
    [https://tribune.com.pk/story/1913033...eign-minister/

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    We need the investment but I’m wary of MBS especially his role of the journalist murder in Turkey.

    He’s no reformer for Saudi Arabia.

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    @Bewal Express @Syed1 nooras are upset. 2100 prisoners released but no NS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    @Bewal Express @Syed1 nooras are upset. 2100 prisoners released but no NS.
    I saw that, IK asking the Prince to humanely treat our workers and then we get an announcement that 2000 PK prisoners held for minor crimes released. Nooras have behaving disgustingly​ throughout the whole visit, and this shows that they are the enemies of PK. Btw Doc can 65 year old men have babies in PK? As the guy heading Medical commission for NS is a gynecologist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90MPH View Post
    We need the investment but I’m wary of MBS especially his role of the journalist murder in Turkey.

    He’s no reformer for Saudi Arabia.
    This is a very difficult issue because The rest of the world including the richest country in the world wants to be his best friend, can PK afford to be choosy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90MPH View Post
    We need the investment but Im wary of MBS especially his role of the journalist murder in Turkey.

    Hes no reformer for Saudi Arabia.
    The journalist murder is a minor matter; the war in Yemen, willingness to give up Jerusalem (stopped only by the King), and arrest and potential execution of even moderate clerics and women activists are all much worse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post




    sooner or later we will be fighting their wars

    The Prince has launched a bid to buy Manchester United for 5 billion. It appears that Pakistan is worth three football clubs. Manchester United will play football for his pleasure while we will fight for his pleasure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    The Prince has launched a bid to buy Manchester United for 5 billion. It appears that Pakistan is worth three football clubs. Manchester United will play football for his pleasure while we will fight for his pleasure.
    Has he bought the whole of Pakistan? And let’s go by your dumb theory, what happened to China’s part?


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    Quote Originally Posted by IAJ View Post
    Has he bought the whole of Pakistan? And let’s go by your dumb theory, what happened to China’s part?
    The Chinese are obviously unhappy with this arrangement. Moreover, Pakistan has also opened a front with Iran now. A storm is brewing and the usual role of mercenaries will not help Pakistan. We must ensure that we will not fight Saudi's war, but I am not hopeful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    The Chinese are obviously unhappy with this arrangement. Moreover, Pakistan has also opened a front with Iran now. A storm is brewing and the usual role of mercenaries will not help Pakistan. We must ensure that we will not fight Saudi's war, but I am not hopeful.
    If Imran and his advisors play the cards smartly they can get deals from Iran as well. Pak need to look at it’s own interests first. Stay friend with all 3.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    The Prince has launched a bid to buy Manchester United for 5 billion. It appears that Pakistan is worth three football clubs. Manchester United will play football for his pleasure while we will fight for his pleasure.
    Stick to medical doctor sahab politics and economics tum say nahi hogee. This is an FDI in a certain specific industrial sector which will benifit both nations it does not equal to buying a stake or share of that country unlike a football club investment where you hold ownership stakes in that club

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    The Chinese are obviously unhappy with this arrangement. Moreover, Pakistan has also opened a front with Iran now. A storm is brewing and the usual role of mercenaries will not help Pakistan. We must ensure that we will not fight Saudi's war, but I am not hopeful.
    It's seems that the only person more unhappy than anyone is you. From carping about the cost of the visit( which was paid for by the Saudis) to anything you can find, which is basically repeating Noora and Ind propoganda( enemies of PK on the same page). The plan of Nooras was always obvious to anyone with a brain cell- steal literally everything, borrow billions and then put PK at the mercy of other countries, and ultimately give up our Nuclear weapons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAJ View Post
    If Imran and his advisors play the cards smartly they can get deals from Iran as well. Pak need to look at it’s own interests first. Stay friend with all 3.
    Always said there is nothing to stop Iran or any other country from investing in Pakistan, if anything they would have more reason as they are actually much closer geographically than SA.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    The Prince has launched a bid to buy Manchester United for 5 billion. It appears that Pakistan is worth three football clubs. Manchester United will play football for his pleasure while we will fight for his pleasure.
    Lol. Even your intel is wrong.
    The prince rejected the claim that he's buying man u.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoib View Post
    Stick to medical doctor sahab politics and economics tum say nahi hogee. This is an FDI in a certain specific industrial sector which will benifit both nations it does not equal to buying a stake or share of that country unlike a football club investment where you hold ownership stakes in that club
    Thank you for enlightening me. I was not aware of the difference between investing in a country and investing in a football club. I thought investing in a football club is called FDI, and when you invest in a country, you buy its shares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by a_tahir View Post
    Lol. Even your intel is wrong.
    The prince rejected the claim that he's buying man u.
    It is the usual business. If a deal does not materialise, they will simply state that they did not intend to buy. The Saudis are extremely arrogant and obnoxious.

    A prince that carries his gold toilet with him to other countries because using a regular toilet is beneath him is not going to accept that his bid was rejected. There is usually a lot of fire to such smoke, such news is not cooked out of thin air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    It is the usual business. If a deal does not materialise, they will simply state that they did not intend to buy. The Saudis are extremely arrogant and obnoxious.

    A prince that carries his gold toilet with him to other countries because using a regular toilet is beneath him is not going to accept that his bid was rejected. There is usually a lot of fire to such smoke, such news is not cooked out of thin air.
    Or there was no bid, and someone is trying to push up the price.

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    Ingenuity of Pakistan establishment is unparalleled

    They have the USA on their side inspite of all their curses and rants and Osama

    They have defeated the Russians in Afghanistan and now the Russians are selling them hardware.

    Inspite is being almost bankrupt , Saudi is bailing them out.

    China is firmly in their corner.

    India with all its mega economy and bigger army can’t do a **** due to nuclear deterrence.

    Pakistan approach has been consistent since last 30 years. Bleed India with low intensity conflict and non state actors / terrorists.

    On the other hand India has never been able to match Pakistan’s diplomacy. Nor has India been able to fan unrest in Pakistan due to “moral” reasons.

    From the time when Pak was almost declared a Terror state to again coming back to world center stage due to USA quitting Afghanistan , they have come a long way.

    India on the other hand has punched way way below its weight.

    I guess the only way India is ever gonna be able to get its mojo back is claiming its rightful share of Indus water which it hasn’t been doing all these years.

    Secondly, wait for China to take over assets in Pakistan due to unpayable debt.

    Edit : Not trolling here. Just saying a few facts as they seem. Also, am sure the people of Pak are as ****** with their govt as the Indians are.
    Something I found on another website . Some great points there


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Thank you for enlightening me. I was not aware of the difference between investing in a country and investing in a football club. I thought investing in a football club is called FDI, and when you invest in a country, you buy its shares.
    You equating the two events suggested otherwise hence the need for this lesson


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