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    India's Supreme Court considers call to open mosques to women

    India's Supreme Court agreed on Tuesday to consider a petition from a Muslim couple to allow women into mosques, seeking to overturn a centuries-old practice that largely bars women from the places of worship.

    Women are not allowed inside most mosques in India, although a few have separate entrances for women to go into segregated areas.

    The petitioners, Yasmeen Peerzade and her husband Zuber Peerzade, said that women were allowed to enter mosques during the time of the Prophet Mohammad (PBUH).

    “Like men, women also have the constitutional rights to offer worship according to their belief,” they said in their petition.

    “There should not be any gender discrimination and allow Muslim women to pray in all mosques,” they said.

    The court last year lifted a ban on the entry of women of menstrual age at a Hindu temple in southern India saying it was a violation of their right to worship.

    The Muslim couple referred to the temple ruling, which angered conservative Hindus, as a precedent to support their call for women to be allowed to pray at mosques.

    A representative of a prominent organisation of Islamic scholars, the Jamiat Ulema-e-Hind, was not immediately available for comment.

    The petition comes at a sensitive time for relations been minority Muslims and the majority Hindu community.

    Some members of Prime Minister Narendra Modi's Hindu nationalist ruling party have been accused of stirring communal animosity as the party seeks a second term in a staggered general election now underway.

    Supreme Court judge S.A. Bobde said the court will examine the couple's request at length.

    The court in 2017 ruled as unconstitutional a law which allows Muslim men to divorce their wives simply by uttering the word “talaq”, which means divorce in Arabic, three times.

    This year, the government issued an executive order making instant divorce an offence punishable with up to three years in jail.

    https://www.dawn.com/news/1476499

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    If a separate area is made why not

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    If they are allowed in Masjid Nabwi (Madina) i don't see any reason why they can't be allowed in any other mosque of the world (with separate area for women of course).

    Many mosques in Pakistan also have these separate area for women.


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    Indian Muslims are weird. I've heard a story where a travelling husband and wife wanted to pray in a mosque and the wife was turned away. Thankfully a Hindu shopkeeper next door allowed her to pray in his shop.

    Isn't there a hadith which states you're not to discourage women from going to a mosque? So surely if Indian Muslims are stopping women going in then it's a new advanced Islam with a brand new misogynistic guy they consider a prophet to boot

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    Should the Supreme Court really be getting involved in such matters? If the mosque does not belong to the state then it's up to the owners to decide who they will and won't let in. Well this was the argument used by those who were backing the Sabarimala temple's ban on women of a certain age.

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    I would have thought ladies are allowed in Indian Masjids. Strange that they are not.


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    They are allowed in mosque but they need to pray separately.

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    So much for the separation of the state and religion.

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    What is the islamic view on this? The petitioner apparently said that muslim women are allowed in mosques in medina and mecca. If so why not in India?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    What is the islamic view on this? The petitioner apparently said that muslim women are allowed in mosques in medina and mecca. If so why not in India?
    they are allowed but have to pray separately


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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    What is the islamic view on this? The petitioner apparently said that muslim women are allowed in mosques in medina and mecca. If so why not in India?
    Most countries in the Middle East have a separate/segregated area for women to pray in, specially in larger mosques.

    However, it's the other way around in India/Pakistan. The reason for that is that the Hanafi school of thought (one of four schools generally followed nowadays) is generally followed in the subcontinent, which doesn't encourage women's participation in mosques. Thus, most mosques in the subcontinent don't have areas for women.


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    One of the problems in India is space (hence the recent stories about people praying in public parks, roads etc). If there’s a finite amount of mosque floor space then it isn’t surprising that the men (who tend to be the rule makers when it comes to such things) get priority over women.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    Most countries in the Middle East have a separate/segregated area for women to pray in, specially in larger mosques.

    However, it's the other way around in India/Pakistan. The reason for that is that the Hanafi school of thought (one of four schools generally followed nowadays) is generally followed in the subcontinent, which doesn't encourage women's participation in mosques. Thus, most mosques in the subcontinent don't have areas for women.
    Salaams brother.

    Care to share some more light upon this? References with viewpoints of the Hanafi school of thought and the others would be appreciated.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Technics 1210 View Post
    So much for the separation of the state and religion.
    Separation of church and state doesn't mean that places of worship can do whatever they want. Anyway, they haven't ruled anything yet. So far it is just a petition by some Muslim couple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anakwalajinn View Post
    Salaams brother.

    Care to share some more light upon this? References with viewpoints of the Hanafi school of thought and the others would be appreciated.
    Wsalam wr.

    Generally, the major Fatawa books of the Indian Subcontinent Hanafi jurists (fuqaha) discourage (quite vehemently at times) women from attending and praying at Mosques. They base their understanding on the fact that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) in many Hadiths encouraged women to offer their prayers at home.

    http://www.daruliftaa.com/node/6128?txt_QuestionID=
    In the Hanafi madhhab it is prohibitively disliked [Makruh e Tahrimi] for women to attend the Masjid to pray Salah in congregation. It is better and preferred for them to pray Salah at home.

    http://www.thesunniway.com/articles/...tion-at-masjid
    The links have more information regarding the reasoning used by Hanafis jurists.

    From my limited knowledge, none of the other schools of thought adopt a similar approach with regards to women in mosques and allow it.


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