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    England vs Pakistan | 3rd ODI | Bristol | May 14th, 2019 | Pre-Match Discussion

    Brilliant fightback from Pakistan, but unfortunately we ended on the losing side. Some key players were missing yet we took the game to the last over was a big positive.

    Few changes can improve this side even more.

    Imam Ul Haq dosen't fit into the modern game, and this also allows Babar to open.

    Asif Ali deserves more chances.

    Faheem and Yasir don't deserve to play anymore.

    M Hafeez could balance this side greatly.


    My XI:

    1) Fakhar Zaman
    2) Babar Azam
    3) Haris Sohail
    4) Sarfraz Ahmed
    5) Mohammad Hafeez
    6) Asif Ali
    7) Imad Wasim
    8) Mohammad Amir
    9) Hasan Ali
    10) Shaheen Afridi
    11) Junaid Khan

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    I know this team lacks batting depth, but atleast the bowling looks potent and should restrict opposition to lower totals.

    We lacked death bowlers today and Amir, to some extent Junaid can fill that gap.

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    Pumped up for this one!

    My XI:

    1) Fakhar Zaman
    2) Babar Azam
    3) Haris Sohail
    4) Asif Ali
    5) Sarfraz Ahmad C
    6) M Hafeez
    7) Imad Wasim
    8) M Amir
    9) Hasan Ali
    10) M Hasnain
    11) Junaid Khan

    Shaheen needs rest imo.

    Faheem and Yasir should be on the plane to Pakistan.

    Also I feel Asif Ali is more suited to number four in ODIs where he doesn’t have much pressure on himself.

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    Play 4 genuine pacers.

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    Fakhar
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    Haris
    Sarfraz
    Hafeez
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    Junaid (need to see which one of Amir/Faheem/Junaid is actually worth keeping)


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    My XI

    1. Fakhar Zaman
    2. Babar Azam
    3. Haris Sohail
    4. Sarfraz Ahmed
    5. Mohammad Hafeez
    6. Abid Ali
    7. Imad Wasim
    8. Mohammad Amir
    9. Hasan Ali
    10. Junaid Khan
    11. Shaheen Shah Afridi / Mohammad Hasnain

    I would rest Shaheen cause I wanna see what Junaid and Hasnain got


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    1. Fakhar
    2. Abid
    3. Babar
    4. Haris
    5. Hafeez
    6. Asif
    7. Sarfaraz
    8. Imad
    9 Hasnain
    10. Amir
    11. Junaid

    My playing 11 for 3rd ODI

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    Bring in Amir, Abid and maybe Hasnain.

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    Abid
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    I'll be content if the management grows a pair drops Imam and lets Babar open. The way Babar bats in the PP in T20I's if both Babar and Fakhar fire in the PP we could be looking at a 80+ score in the first 10!


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    Yasir out Amir in
    Faheem out Malik in
    Try Abid in place of Imam maybe

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    My XI:

    1) Fakhar Zaman
    2) Babar Azam
    3) Haris Sohail
    4) Asif Ali
    5) Sarfraz Ahmad C
    6) M Hafeez
    7) S. Malik
    8) M Amir
    9) Hasan Ali
    10) M Hasnain
    11) Junaid Khan

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    Pakistan coach Mickey Arthur said neither he nor his bowlers has an idea of how to stop Jos Buttler, after the England wicket-keeper bastman struck a blistering 55-ball 110* on Saturday, 11 May.

    Buttler is fast establishing himself as one of the best players to have represented England in limited-overs cricket. He holds five of the ten fastest hundreds for his country, the latest of which came in the second one-day international against Pakistan in Southampton.

    Buttler whacked six fours and nine sixes in the span of just 66 minutes, and propelled England to 373/3 in their 50 overs. Pakistan's batsmen responded encouragingly, taking their team within 12 runs of England's total, but Buttler's knock ultimately trumped all else.

    It left Pakistan coach Mickey Arthur at a loss to explain how Buttler was to be contained. "I don't know how you bowl to him," he said. "I've just asked the bowlers the same thing and they didn't have an answer either. But I don't think we're going to stop him, so we've got to try to get him out."

    England captain Eoin Morgan, who revelled in an unbeaten 162-run stand with Buttler, was effusive in his praise for his team-mate, calling him the difference between the two sides.

    "He seems to have a gear that not many of us have. I certainly don't have it, but it's great to watch," Morgan said. "He always seems to time his run really well, regardless of what time he comes in, he always seems to have enough balls to go on and bang a 50-ball hundred. He was brilliant and the difference in the two teams."

    Buttler himself put his success down to maturing with time. "I'm maturing age-wise as well," he told Sky Sports. "I've learned a lot about myself and what works for me. I just think I've had some great experiences in the last few years, which you can always use [in any given situation]."


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    Yasir must be dropped for good, bring in Amir (or even Hasnain). Abid also needs to be given a chance, especially because Imam completely lacks the ability to have a strike rate beyond 80.

    Fakhar
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    Babar
    Haris
    Sarfraz+*
    Asif
    Imad
    Faheem
    Hasan
    Amir
    Shaheen


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    I hope Jofra comes back as England look toothless without him. Maybe Wood too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsalan Pro View Post
    Brilliant fightback from Pakistan, but unfortunately we ended on the losing side. Some key players were missing yet we took the game to the last over was a big positive.

    Few changes can improve this side even more.

    Imam Ul Haq dosen't fit into the modern game, and this also allows Babar to open.

    Asif Ali deserves more chances.

    Faheem and Yasir don't deserve to play anymore.

    M Hafeez could balance this side greatly.


    My XI:

    1) Fakhar Zaman
    2) Babar Azam
    3) Haris Sohail
    4) Sarfraz Ahmed
    5) Mohammad Hafeez
    6) Asif Ali
    7) Imad Wasim
    8) Mohammad Amir
    9) Hasan Ali
    10) Shaheen Afridi
    11) Junaid Khan
    100% Agree with this selection and reasoning. Well put.

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    I would play Amir, Junaid and Hasnain in place of Shaheen, Faheem and Yasir.

    Keep the same batting line-up. Malik, Hafeez and Abid can play the last two games.

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    My Playing X1 For 3rd ODI

    Fakhar Zaman
    Sarfraz Ahmed(wk)
    Babar Azam
    Shoaib Malik
    Mohammad Hafeez
    Asif Ali
    Imad Wasim
    Hassan Ali
    Mohammad Amir
    Junaid Khan
    Mohammad Hasnain

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    Keep backing the selection of imam, Fahim, Yasir, Malik and Asif (One off performance) you will see same performance of different players again and again.
    May be tomorrow we will see Morgan or Root in same slaughtering mood.

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    Babar has to play faster than being selfish so as Imam otherwise we will loose next 3 matches as well.

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    Don't write off Imam yet, he is very consistent but definitely needs to increase his SR and so does Babar Azam - even though Azam made 52 off 51 but with only 1 four, we know hr can hit boundaries.

    Good to see Asif Ali and Fakhar Zaman in some form.

    Faheem and Imad both disappointing, atleast Imad bowled decently.

    Sarfraz played decently compared to his last few innings, should have played faster i agree but good cameo. Of course was not enough.

    Good fight boys, we need better bowling and more wickets.

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    Imam and Yasir are pure weak links. Imam can be asset if he starts hitting some boundaries and get his strike rate to 85 at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsalan Pro View Post
    Brilliant fightback from Pakistan, but unfortunately we ended on the losing side. Some key players were missing yet we took the game to the last over was a big positive.

    Few changes can improve this side even more.

    Imam Ul Haq dosen't fit into the modern game, and this also allows Babar to open.

    Asif Ali deserves more chances.

    Faheem and Yasir don't deserve to play anymore.

    M Hafeez could balance this side greatly.


    My XI:

    1) Fakhar Zaman
    2) Babar Azam
    3) Haris Sohail
    4) Sarfraz Ahmed
    5) Mohammad Hafeez
    6) Asif Ali
    7) Imad Wasim
    8) Mohammad Amir
    9) Hasan Ali
    10) Shaheen Afridi
    11) Junaid Khan
    Drop Hasan Ali for Hasnain and we have a deal

    I think Asif Ali was a one trick pony and will fail. This is also proven by his poor domestic average. I hope I am wrong though.
    Last edited by gazza619; 13th May 2019 at 03:15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsalan Pro View Post
    Brilliant fightback from Pakistan, but unfortunately we ended on the losing side. Some key players were missing yet we took the game to the last over was a big positive.

    Few changes can improve this side even more.

    Imam Ul Haq dosen't fit into the modern game, and this also allows Babar to open.

    Asif Ali deserves more chances.

    Faheem and Yasir don't deserve to play anymore.

    M Hafeez could balance this side greatly.


    My XI:

    1) Fakhar Zaman
    2) Babar Azam
    3) Haris Sohail
    4) Sarfraz Ahmed
    5) Mohammad Hafeez
    6) Asif Ali
    7) Imad Wasim
    8) Mohammad Amir
    9) Hasan Ali
    10) Shaheen Afridi
    11) Junaid Khan
    Perfect team in limited existing resources

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsalan Pro View Post
    Brilliant fightback from Pakistan, but unfortunately we ended on the losing side. Some key players were missing yet we took the game to the last over was a big positive.

    Few changes can improve this side even more.

    Imam Ul Haq dosen't fit into the modern game, and this also allows Babar to open.

    Asif Ali deserves more chances.

    Faheem and Yasir don't deserve to play anymore.

    M Hafeez could balance this side greatly.


    My XI:

    1) Fakhar Zaman
    2) Babar Azam
    3) Haris Sohail
    4) Sarfraz Ahmed
    5) Mohammad Hafeez
    6) Asif Ali
    7) Imad Wasim
    8) Mohammad Amir
    9) Hasan Ali
    10) Shaheen Afridi
    11) Junaid Khan
    Optimal team until shadab returns as we get to test all the Pacers,though as faheem is back up all-rounder he should play maybe one more


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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza619 View Post
    Drop Hasan Ali for Hasnain and we have a deal

    I think Asif Ali was a one trick pony and will fail. This is also proven by his poor domestic average. I hope I am wrong though.
    Asif took his time and played well the other day I must admit. He has always been a fantastic six hitter but he often throws his wicket away. As long as he shows maturity, he can be an integral player in World Cup.

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    Abid Ali
    Babaar Azam
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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza619 View Post
    Drop Hasan Ali for Hasnain and we have a deal

    I think Asif Ali was a one trick pony and will fail. This is also proven by his poor domestic average. I hope I am wrong though.
    Your choice, but for me we should give one more game to Hasan and Shaheen and then rotate them in the last 2 matches, not chopping and changing your main bowlers for World Cup, after one bad outing.

    Hasnain played one extra match(T20I) compared to Amir and Junaid and thus, should be the one out of these 3 to miss this match.

    All 3 of Amir, Junaid and Hasnain should play the last 2 matches.

    For Pakistan's cause we need Asif to fire big time, otherwise we will feel difficulty in chasing big targets or posting ones. Combo of Mohammad Hafeez, Asif Ali and Imad Wasim needs to fire as a unit to give us some confidence of last order hitting.

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    Amir is out due to illness.

    Fakhar
    Babar
    Haris
    Sarfraz *
    Hafeez
    Asif
    Imad
    Hassan
    SSA
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    Abid, Hafeez, Malik and Junaid are in the WC squad and should start getting games, especially with the threat of rain looming in this series

    Maybe Abid, Husnain, Junaid, Hafeez come in for the third match, with Imam, Yasir, Faheem and maybe Hassan rested

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    Quote Originally Posted by mak36 View Post
    Amir is out due to illness.

    Fakhar
    Babar
    Haris
    Sarfraz *
    Hafeez
    Asif
    Imad
    Hassan
    SSA
    Hasanain
    Junaid
    Do they have the guts to go with 3 pure tailenders? With Amir they could have afforded 4 genuine quicks, I don't feel they would go this attacking now.

    This means Faheem who in reality is as bad as others with regards to batting would play this game or they might go with 1 extra batsman.

    I think they will play this lineup:

    1) Fakhar Zaman
    2) Babar Azam
    3) Haris Sohail
    4) Sarfraz Ahmed(C)(Wk)
    5) Mohammad Hafeez
    6) Shoaib Malik
    7) Asif Ali
    8) Imad Wasim
    9) Hasan Ali
    10) Shaheen Afridi
    11) Junaid Khan

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    Sarfraz Ahmed needs to open. He can be a valuable player during powerplay he has done it before in the last world cup. He and Fakhar should open it will create more options for the team. Asif Ali can easily play on no. 5. England pitches are no more the same we used to see in 90s and 80s. They are making dead wickets for high scoring matches. Pakistan has no other choice but to fit in players with higher strike rate.

    Shoaib Malik, Imam and Haris are not needed in this team. With Amir not well, expecting more bashing for Pakistani bowlers and another 320+ score.

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    I would love to see Abid Ali play, but unfortunately now it is even less likely with Hafeez and Malik back, and they will continue to try Asif and Imam is going nowhere till the end of world cup. If I was captain I would play Abid in place of Asif, who still has not convinced me - he is just a glorified slogger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khwaja78 View Post
    Sarfraz Ahmed needs to open. He can be a valuable player during powerplay he has done it before in the last world cup. He and Fakhar should open it will create more options for the team. Asif Ali can easily play on no. 5. England pitches are no more the same we used to see in 90s and 80s. They are making dead wickets for high scoring matches. Pakistan has no other choice but to fit in players with higher strike rate.

    Shoaib Malik, Imam and Haris are not needed in this team. With Amir not well, expecting more bashing for Pakistani bowlers and another 320+ score.
    Lets not talk about Sarfaraz opening as with Imam in the squad it will never happen. We have a gun opener in Abid Ali but he will not get a chance, despite scoring an excellent century on debut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsalan Pro View Post
    Do they have the guts to go with 3 pure tailenders? With Amir they could have afforded 4 genuine quicks, I don't feel they would go this attacking now.

    This means Faheem who in reality is as bad as others with regards to batting would play this game or they might go with 1 extra batsman.

    I think they will play this lineup:

    1) Fakhar Zaman
    2) Babar Azam
    3) Haris Sohail
    4) Sarfraz Ahmed(C)(Wk)
    5) Mohammad Hafeez
    6) Shoaib Malik
    7) Asif Ali
    8) Imad Wasim
    9) Hasan Ali
    10) Shaheen Afridi
    11) Junaid Khan
    Don't mind the long tail for this series- should use this series to test combinations. Shows the importance of Shadab to this line up; the balance of the side looks much better when he is playing.

    Re your line up, fifth bowling option to be made by Hafeez, Haris (and Malik)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mak36 View Post
    Don't mind the long tail for this series- should use this series to test combinations. Shows the importance of Shadab to this line up; the balance of the side looks much better when he is playing.

    Re your line up, fifth bowling option to be made by Hafeez, Haris (and Malik)?
    Yup, in this lineup they would have to use M Hafeez, Malik and Haris for 10 overs, which I know isn't ideal given our bowling performance last match.

    I too wouldn't mind them go with your team combination, let's see if team management thinks that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PakPremi View Post
    Lets not talk about Sarfaraz opening as with Imam in the squad it will never happen. We have a gun opener in Abid Ali but he will not get a chance, despite scoring an excellent century on debut.
    If Sarfraz takes the opening slot Imam will be automatically benched and will create 2 options in middle order.
    Abid Ali can replace Haris Sohail. Only Hafeez should be included, he is good against spinners. Shoaib Malik presence will damage the team. Pak won't be able to cross 280 let alone crossing 300 for a high run chase.

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    Asif shouldn’t play he was lucky he was dropped when on 24 and went on to make 50. Malik is a better slogger than him IMO


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsalan Pro View Post
    Brilliant fightback from Pakistan, but unfortunately we ended on the losing side. Some key players were missing yet we took the game to the last over was a big positive.

    Few changes can improve this side even more.

    Imam Ul Haq dosen't fit into the modern game, and this also allows Babar to open.

    Asif Ali deserves more chances.

    Faheem and Yasir don't deserve to play anymore.

    M Hafeez could balance this side greatly.


    My XI:

    1) Fakhar Zaman
    2) Babar Azam
    3) Haris Sohail
    4) Sarfraz Ahmed
    5) Mohammad Hafeez
    6) Asif Ali
    7) Imad Wasim
    8) Mohammad Amir
    9) Hasan Ali
    10) Shaheen Afridi
    11) Junaid Khan
    Imam is a better batsman than Sohail, who I think should be replaced with Hafeez (especially if he gets to ball).

    What is the problem with a batsman averaging almost 55 with a SR of 80?

    Hafeez in for Sohail
    Junaid in for Shah
    Hasnain in for Faheem

    Hasan gets a chance to bat and can not be any worse than any other lower order slogger.

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    Any news about the weather?

    Any forecast of rain??

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    Quote Originally Posted by barah_admi View Post
    Imam is a better batsman than Sohail, who I think should be replaced with Hafeez (especially if he gets to ball).

    What is the problem with a batsman averaging almost 55 with a SR of 80?

    Hafeez in for Sohail
    Junaid in for Shah
    Hasnain in for Faheem

    Hasan gets a chance to bat and can not be any worse than any other lower order slogger.
    Imam might be a better batsman than Haris Sohail in his and his uncle's dreams.

    Problem is we don't analyze stats properly, no one cares about his runs against minnows that aren't playing the WC. He averages 35 with SR in 70s and that aren't good by any standards for this era of cricket.

    While Haris Sohail averages around 45 career wise at 85 SR against Top teams, and in last 2 years it has increased close to 70 with 85-90 SR.

    Last time I checked before this series, against Top oppositions. Haris Sohail has the 3rd highest average after the 2015 WC for all batsmen, only behind Virat Kohli and Ross Taylor.

    No one in right mind would drop Haris Sohail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Patriot View Post
    Any news about the weather?

    Any forecast of rain??
    Almost no chance, we should get a full 100 overs uninterrupted game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsalan Pro View Post
    Almost no chance, we should get a full 100 overs uninterrupted game.
    Great news.

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    Did someone said imam is better batsmen than haris?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Patriot View Post
    Any news about the weather?

    Any forecast of rain??
    Very sunny with 0% chance of rain. Beautiful weather to play cricket.

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    With no Amir, i would give Hasnain a go now. We need that extra pace to trouble the England batsman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsalan Pro View Post
    Imam might be a better batsman than Haris Sohail in his and his uncle's dreams.

    Problem is we don't analyze stats properly, no one cares about his runs against minnows that aren't playing the WC. He averages 35 with SR in 70s and that aren't good by any standards for this era of cricket.

    While Haris Sohail averages around 45 career wise at 85 SR against Top teams, and in last 2 years it has increased close to 70 with 85-90 SR.

    Last time I checked before this series, against Top oppositions. Haris Sohail has the 3rd highest average after the 2015 WC for all batsmen, only behind Virat Kohli and Ross Taylor.

    No one in right mind would drop Haris Sohail.
    Totally agree. We shouldn't even think about dropping Haris regardless of who comes into the playing 11. In the WC we must always go with Fakhar, Babar and Haris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mehndi155 View Post
    Did someone said imam is better batsmen than haris?
    Imam is not bad player , but has technical flaws , which should have been rectified before. He needs to push his strike rate to be around 85 - 90 at least.

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    Even if Inzi wants to have his nephew open in the World Cup, Abid needs to have an opportunity to showcase his talent. it almost looks like Imam ul Haq is being protected as he lacks the ability to score at even a run a ball and can't even rotate strike against good bowling and short pitched deliveries. Abid on the other hand has every shot in the book. There is also no place for Shoaib. I do not have anything against either of them but we have to be clinical if we want to entertain hopes of winning the cup. This Bhai chara and favours won't take us very far.

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    Need to bring in Wahab Riaz in place of Amir if hes out. Drop Imam and open with Abid Ali. Ideally Shadab will return for the world cup and the below looks strong with Malik, Hafeez Fakhar sharing 5th bowling.

    Abid Ali
    Fakhar Zaman
    Babar Azam
    Sarfraz Ahmed WK
    Hafeez
    Malik
    Asif Ali
    Shadab Khan
    Hassan Ali
    Wahab Riaz
    Shaheen Afridi

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    Abid
    Fakhar
    Babar
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    Sarfraz
    Hafeez
    Asif
    Imad
    Hasan
    Shaheen
    Junaid

    Hafeez and Haris to bowl 10 overs. Fakhar may also be used for 2-3 overs.
    Last edited by Farhansk; 14th May 2019 at 00:03.


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    I would love to see Babar get a century here.

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    Bristol is a small ground so more hard work awaits for bowlers.

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    Seems like Archer and Rashid will be rested having not trained, as well as Buttler.

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    Fakhar
    Babar
    Haris
    Sarfaraz
    Malik
    Hafeez
    Asif
    Imad
    Hasan
    Hasnain/Junaid
    Shaheen

    Hafeez, Haris and Malik can easily bowl 10 overs between them and considering how Eng generally plays spin they can be pretty decent overs economy wise as well. This lineup also gives decent batting depth with Hafeez, Asif and Imad doing the lower order hitting.

    If we had an attacking middle order batsman I would have surely opted for him over Malik but at the moment he is the only one in the squad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justcrazy View Post
    Imam is not bad player , but has technical flaws , which should have been rectified before. He needs to push his strike rate to be around 85 - 90 at least.
    He is good but haris is miles ahead of him.

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    As per Saj, Mohammad Hafeez too isn't available for tomorrow's game.

    Playing XI now would be:

    1) Fakhar Zaman
    2) Imam Ul Haq
    3) Babar Azam
    4) Haris Sohail
    5) Sarfraz Ahmed(C)(Wk)
    6) Shoaib Malik
    7) Asif Ali
    8) Imad Wasim
    9) Hasan Ali
    10) Shaheen Afridi
    11) Junaid Khan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsalan Pro View Post
    As per Saj, Mohammad Hafeez too isn't available for tomorrow's game.

    Playing XI now would be:

    1) Fakhar Zaman
    2) Imam Ul Haq
    3) Babar Azam
    4) Haris Sohail
    5) Sarfraz Ahmed(C)(Wk)
    6) Shoaib Malik
    7) Asif Ali
    8) Imad Wasim
    9) Hasan Ali
    10) Shaheen Afridi
    11) Junaid Khan
    That's one bowler short.
    Malik and Haris are not good enough to bowl 10 overs between them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Patriot View Post
    That's one bowler short.
    Malik and Haris are not good enough to bowl 10 overs between them.
    Yup, it is one bowler short but this looks like the expected team. Let's see who they drop for Mohammad Hasnain, if they include him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Patriot View Post
    That's one bowler short.
    Malik and Haris are not good enough to bowl 10 overs between them.
    They both can still bowl better lines lengths than Yasir and have more variation in pace than him in LOIs. Even if they bowl 10 overs for 60 they would still have done miles better job than Yasir however I am hopeful both will do a decent job containing in the middle overs. Though would need captain to use them effectively at right times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsalan Pro View Post
    As per Saj, Mohammad Hafeez too isn't available for tomorrow's game.

    Playing XI now would be:

    1) Fakhar Zaman
    2) Imam Ul Haq
    3) Babar Azam
    4) Haris Sohail
    5) Sarfraz Ahmed(C)(Wk)
    6) Shoaib Malik
    7) Asif Ali
    8) Imad Wasim
    9) Hasan Ali
    10) Shaheen Afridi
    11) Junaid Khan
    Strange , people still want to see selfish nephew ahead of a proper opener like Abid.. When I see such posts I wonder maybe fans deserve selfish players like Imam,Babar,Amir , stupid coach like Mickey and corrupt , dishonest selector like Inzi...

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    Should try Imad at 5 or 6.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsalan Pro View Post
    As per Saj, Mohammad Hafeez too isn't available for tomorrow's game.

    Playing XI now would be:

    1) Fakhar Zaman
    2) Imam Ul Haq
    3) Babar Azam
    4) Haris Sohail
    5) Sarfraz Ahmed(C)(Wk)
    6) Shoaib Malik
    7) Asif Ali
    8) Imad Wasim
    9) Hasan Ali
    10) Shaheen Afridi
    11) Junaid Khan
    How awesome it would have been if Asif Ali bowled 3 or 4 overs of spin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farhan93 View Post
    Strange , people still want to see selfish nephew ahead of a proper opener like Abid.. When I see such posts I wonder maybe fans deserve selfish players like Imam,Babar,Amir , stupid coach like Mickey and corrupt , dishonest selector like Inzi...
    Understand what is written before replying, it was the expected team, not the one I wanted. I have always been a critic of Imam, and want Abid in the side.

    I guess, no point replying to someone who thinks Babar and Amir are selfish.

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    I don't think we'll learn from our bowling deficiencies by the 3rd ODI and I do expect us to be either chasing 300+ in all the remaining games. or setting a target and England chasing it with ease.

    I have no expectation from our bowlers. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if our batsmen outperform our bowlers in this series and the forthcoming WC


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chokli View Post
    How awesome it would have been if Asif Ali bowled 3 or 4 overs of spin.
    Yup, his value would have been enhanced and could have earned him a proper spot.

    If I am not wrong I think I saw Asif bowl in the Pakistan Cup?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsalan Pro View Post
    Yup, his value would have been enhanced and could have earned him a proper spot.

    If I am not wrong I think I saw Asif bowl in the Pakistan Cup?
    He did in fact bowl in one match.

    Our think tank is too stupid to utilize him like that anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsalan Pro View Post
    Understand what is written before replying, it was the expected team, not the one I wanted. I have always been a critic of Imam, and want Abid in the side.

    I guess, no point replying to someone who thinks Babar and Amir are selfish.
    Career SR of 83 in modern day cricket is world class and depicts selflessness? yeah right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farhan93 View Post
    Career SR of 83 in modern day cricket is world class and depicts selflessness? yeah right
    It's 85, not 83. His role is to ensure that he plays the entire innings at a healthy SR and one this sort of batsman is mandatory to avoid collapses. Team management have given him the role to bat like this.

    BTW, he is the same player who is the Number 1 T20I batsman in the world and has the ability to dominate, he just waits for the end overs to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsalan Pro View Post
    It's 85, not 83. His role is to ensure that he plays the entire innings at a healthy SR and one this sort of batsman is mandatory to avoid collapses. Team management have given him the role to bat like this.

    BTW, he is the same player who is the Number 1 T20I batsman in the world and has the ability to dominate, he just waits for the end overs to do so.
    It's mostly around 83-84 . It was 83 before last match .
    Anyways, yes you want batsmen to provide stability in the middle but even the definition of stability has changed in modern day cricket FYI, anchoring the innings doesn't mean you have to suck all the momentum and consume deliveries just to hold an end and play with a SR of 83-84. Kohli and Root also provide stability but they don't play with SR of 80-85...Root's SR in last 3 years has been 90+ yet there were noises in Eng camp last year during WI tour that he is too slow for the modern standards and should be dropped. Kohli's SR is 92.
    We provide free rides to our blue eyed boys that's why we have been in such a mess in ODIs for many years now. we need to put pressure on our favorites so that they can improve instead of getting complacent and think they are no 1 with SR of 83 with 0 match winning contribution in big match.

    You really believe in ICC rankings? Faheem is in the top rankings too in bowling in t20s does that mean he becomes best pacer in the world?And also T20 ranking is even more flawed as it doesn't give consideration to the SR but to the runs scored. T20 is more about SR we all know that.. Test rankings are more valid because it give considerations to avg and babar is nowhere in those rankings.

    Point is in modern day ODIs we need middle order batsmen with SR of 88-89 or more not less than that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsalan Pro View Post
    Yup, it is one bowler short but this looks like the expected team. Let's see who they drop for Mohammad Hasnain, if they include him.
    I dont think the team management would trust Malik and Haris to bowl 10.It would be frankly surprising if they do.But then they will have to drop a batsmen to incorporate a bowler and Malik wont be dropped and Asif after the previous match can't be either. Haris might be dropped for all we know.Not an easy decision to make by all means.

    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    They both can still bowl better lines lengths than Yasir and have more variation in pace than him in LOIs. Even if they bowl 10 overs for 60 they would still have done miles better job than Yasir however I am hopeful both will do a decent job containing in the middle overs. Though would need captain to use them effectively at right times.
    Even Sarfaraz himself would be better than Yasir honestly
    But i dont think Malik will be able to contain though Haris might.Malik would probably be feasted upon by the beastly English lineup.

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    I dont see pakistan messing with a batting line up. Changes will be in the bowling. Yasir has probably played his last game on tour.

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    When it comes to Cricket he first question is always the weather. Hope it's a good and sunny day.


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    Don't see Hafeez featuring yet - Malik could come in for Faheem. Not so sure if they will do that but won't be surprised if they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naveedahmed1 View Post
    Asif shouldn’t play he was lucky he was dropped when on 24 and went on to make 50. Malik is a better slogger than him IMO
    Malik should be no where near the eleven

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    My playing 11 for 3rd Odi:
    1) Fakhar Zaman
    2) Babar Azam
    3) Haris Sohail
    4) Sarfraz Ahmed
    5) Mohammad Hafeez
    6) Asif Ali
    7) Shoaib Malik-
    8) Imad Wasim
    9) Hasan Ali
    10) Shaheen Afridi
    11) Junaid Khan

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    I don’t see Imam being dropped. With Hafeez unavailable, the chances are less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ertugrul_Bey View Post
    My playing 11 for 3rd Odi:
    1) Fakhar Zaman
    2) Babar Azam
    3) Haris Sohail
    4) Sarfraz Ahmed
    5) Mohammad Hafeez
    6) Asif Ali
    7) Shoaib Malik-
    8) Imad Wasim
    9) Hasan Ali
    10) Shaheen Afridi
    11) Junaid Khan
    Baffles me how many Pak fans want to displace their best batsman to accommodate a TTF in Hafeez


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