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    Mohammad Amir has contracted chickenpox - Are his World Cup dreams over?





    Wish him a speedy recovery. This could not have come at a worst time for him.
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    World cup dreams are over for him sadly

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    I remember he was also out with Dengue fever early on in his career. May Allah grant him full shifaa.


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    Oh no, he could have single handedly won the WC for Pakistan.

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    This would have been his 1st World Cup. Just realised

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    Haris Rauf should be brought in.

    I wont mind Riaz either, but if they bring in an extra pacer it will probably be Shinwari.


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    He doesn't have to play the England series to get selected in the WC squad. He can still be selected in the place of let's say Fahim or Junaid if the management expects him to perform better than the other options.

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    How many weeks/days does it take to recover from Chickenpox anyway?

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    could still be ok..he may have had them for a few weeks already..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiger96 View Post
    How many weeks/days does it take to recover from Chickenpox anyway?
    7-10 Days.

    Assuming he showed symptoms a day before the last match, he can still play the last 2 ODIs. Still he would be feeling tired and not match fit I believe.


    As of now, 5th ODI is expected to be Rained-off and thus Amir might not be able to play a single game.

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    Seems like he is destined not to play in a World Cup.



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    Who cares? I wish he gets better, but this is karma. Caught with his pants down selling his country, only to later admit he did it.

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    How lucky is Faheem Ashraf?

    Such a mediocre cricketer is now guaranteed to be in the final 15, regardless of his 300+ bowling averages and 10 run batting averages.

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    He'll be kept in the squad as he'll recover by the time the world cup comes round, but he'll be short of match practice, but then so will any replacement who is flown in.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    He'll be kept in the squad as he'll recover by the time the world cup comes round, but he'll be short of match practice, but then so will any replacement who is flown in.
    He is not in the WC Squad, they will now keep the other 5 pacers as it is for World Cup. No replacement needed.

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    Wait what? Why would he dream about playing WC when Pak has already announced the squad and didn't even pick him? Did you mean playing in the next WC?
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    This a tricky situation for Mohammad Amir and the management. Chicken pox really affects the immune system and make one feel weak . In my opinion he will not be match fit for the remainder of the series .

    However If he can get match fit by the time the two warm up games come around and be rotated sensibly during the World Cup he could still make an impact .

    It just depends on how the other bowlers fare for the remainder of the series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenKhan View Post
    This a tricky situation for Mohammad Amir and the management. Chicken pox really affects the immune system and make one feel weak . In my opinion he will not be match fit for the remainder of the series .

    However If he can get match fit by the time the two warm up games come around and be rotated sensibly during the World Cup he could still make an impact .

    It just depends on how the other bowlers fare for the remainder of the series.
    But they'll have to remove one player from the squad. It's not like Amir is already in the 15. That would be unfair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiger96 View Post
    How many weeks/days does it take to recover from Chickenpox anyway?
    It's self limiting, he'll be alright in a week or so.

    The main issue is this ODI series was meant to be a WC audition for him but doesn't look like he'll play much role.

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    It would be unwise not to keep him in the World Cup squad. I know he didn’t do much since champions trophy, but his economy was great, and in a given day he can wreck the heart of a batting line up. I say, put in him the squad ahead of faheem and Hasnain.

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    Would still take a chicken-pox infested, unfit and hobbling Amir bowling from his non-dominant hand over garbage like Fahim Ashraf. Only a selector like Inzi would persist with Ashraf as an alrounder who is alround bad with both bat and ball.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmedzee View Post
    It would be unwise not to keep him in the World Cup squad. I know he didn’t do much since champions trophy, but his economy was great, and in a given day he can wreck the heart of a batting line up. I say, put in him the squad ahead of faheem and Hasnain.
    Almost everyone know that Amir is a better option than the ones in the squad for England, but yet our brilliant selectors will keep their beloved useless Faheem in place of him.

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    Lol at people making it seem like Chickenpox is just a flu or something which you can recover from in a few days.

    He's missing the World Cup, he's not match fit, his head is not in the right place and he's been getting extremely sick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chokli View Post
    Lol at people making it seem like Chickenpox is just a flu or something which you can recover from in a few days.

    He's missing the World Cup, he's not match fit, his head is not in the right place and he's been getting extremely sick.
    U got it right. It will take a lot of time for him to recover as its not a fever but chickenpox which gets u so weak so let him be fine first, let alone playing in WC. In hindsight, Its good that Inzy didnt select him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsalan Pro View Post
    Almost everyone know that Amir is a better option than the ones in the squad for England, but yet our brilliant selectors will keep their beloved useless Faheem in place of him.
    Average of 37.
    Sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Seems like he is destined not to play in a World Cup.
    But was he good enough? You seem to have pretty strong opinions about some players, and strong favoritism towards other non-performing ones.

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    Wishing one of our greatest talent a speedy recovery

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    Getting chicken pox as an adult is rough. My brother had it in his early 20s and it took him 3-4 weeks to recover and regain strength. I'm no doctor but PCB stating that he may play the 4th and 5th ODIs sounds implausible

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsalan Pro View Post
    How lucky is Faheem Ashraf?

    Such a mediocre cricketer is now guaranteed to be in the final 15, regardless of his 300+ bowling averages and 10 run batting averages.
    Exactly what I was thinking. This guy always manages to stay in the team despite having 0 performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Would still take a chicken-pox infested, unfit and hobbling Amir bowling from his non-dominant hand over garbage like Fahim Ashraf. Only a selector like Inzi would persist with Ashraf as an alrounder who is alround bad with both bat and ball.
    Totally agreed! Id play 10 players than Faheem in the team.

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    Pretty serious when an adult contracts Chickenpox, hope he make a swift recovery, definitely will not be the same bowler for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronaldo7 View Post
    Average of 37.
    Sure.
    Looks like you missed the last match.

    BTW,

    Shaheen averages 80
    Hasnain Infinity in the only match he played in England(Not and ODI)
    Faheem 65, not to mention 300+ in recent times

    Hasan and Junaid are also going through poor run of form.


    More than his average which is also a bit unlucky to be higher than it should have been, his impact in England across formats his pretty high.

    His Test average is one of the best for Pakistani bowlers, MOS in his first trip here and helped win us last year at Lord's.

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    Wish him a speedy recover. I never would wish illness on any player. Let's see how this affects the WC Squad

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    Why don't people get that faheem is not competing with the other quicks. We will play 3 quicks and faheem will not be one of them
    He is the back up " all rounder" so will only play if Imad or shadab don't!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsalan Pro View Post
    Looks like you missed the last match.

    BTW,

    Shaheen averages 80
    Hasnain Infinity in the only match he played in England(Not and ODI)
    Faheem 65, not to mention 300+ in recent times

    Hasan and Junaid are also going through poor run of form.


    More than his average which is also a bit unlucky to be higher than it should have been, his impact in England across formats his pretty high.

    His Test average is one of the best for Pakistani bowlers, MOS in his first trip here and helped win us last year at Lord's.

    T20I World Cup winner

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    Look up pak bowlers' averages in the past year then you'll get your answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronaldo7 View Post
    Average of 37.
    Sure.
    Pulling up stats blindly about things you have no idea about.

    Too bad cricket isn't played on Excel sheets.

    Quote Originally Posted by Arsalan Pro View Post
    Looks like you missed the last match.

    BTW,

    Shaheen averages 80
    Hasnain Infinity in the only match he played in England(Not and ODI)
    Faheem 65, not to mention 300+ in recent times

    Hasan and Junaid are also going through poor run of form.


    More than his average which is also a bit unlucky to be higher than it should have been, his impact in England across formats his pretty high.

    His Test average is one of the best for Pakistani bowlers, MOS in his first trip here and helped win us last year at Lord's.

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    Very well said.

    Anyways, hope Amir recovers before the start of the world cup.

    Even if he doesn't play the ODI series it's fine. He's our premier bowler and will go straight to the WC squad.

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    20 days of rest and I’m sure he will be flown in as a replacement soon they realise to injure one of the bowler from the squad of 15

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mo Dipsy View Post
    Getting chicken pox as an adult is rough. My brother had it in his early 20s and it took him 3-4 weeks to recover and regain strength. I'm no doctor but PCB stating that he may play the 4th and 5th ODIs sounds implausible
    PCB is full of clowns. At least they should have consulted their team's doctor before making such foolish statement. No wonder WASIM KHAN's entry into the PCB set up is in mess and the fight within the board members and chairman keeps going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salman View Post
    Pretty serious when an adult contracts Chickenpox, hope he make a swift recovery, definitely will not be the same bowler for a while.
    Well if this is the first time then he will be ok. Pretty serious only if that is second or third time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronaldo7 View Post
    Look up pak bowlers' averages in the past year then you'll get your answer.
    We were talking about England and now you changed your goalposts to last year, let's look then.

    All of our bowlers except for Shaheen Afridi and Usman Shinwari have pretty poor averages against Top teams, I don't care about Hasan, Faheem, Junaid performance against Zimbabwe B as there are no such teams like that playing in the WC.

    Amir might average poorly but these bowlers aren't too much away and some are worse even in this regard, too call them better bowlers than him isn't correct, which was on full display in the T20I and ODI game against England.

    It seems wicket taking ability of pacers have collectively been destroyed by our legend fast bowling coach, and thus 2nd best tactic is to keep the ones who can atleast bowl economically and don't get bartered like club level bowlers by opposition.

    I was reading some stats and it showed Amir has been the 2nd most economical bowler after J Bumrah in the World in ODI cricket for past few years.

    I am pretty sure he would have regained his wicket taking ability in England in ODI cricket, but unfortunately he didn't get any chance. He still is better than our PSL specialist bowlers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler Durden View Post
    Wait what? Why would he dream about playing WC when Pak has already announced the squad and didn't even pick him? Did you mean playing in the next WC?
    Final day to make changes in the squad is 23 May. So unless May 23 has passed no squad is final.

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    Its a joke - if Amir was that good that he stands a chance of being selected directly in WC squad even without any match practice now, then the question arises why was he not named in the WC squad to begin with?

    Same with the other laadla whos name I wont mention, in his late 30s now, never was rated by anyone as world class even at his peak, was injured in PSL and has not played any cricket leading up to WC and has even missed all games on England tour so far, and yet he will still somehow make it into the playing XI for the World Cup opening game?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Seems like he is destined not to play in a World Cup.
    Well Pakistan needs Amir during the WC, he can handle the challenge.
    I would take a half fit Amir to the WC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waleed88 View Post
    But was he good enough? You seem to have pretty strong opinions about some players, and strong favoritism towards other non-performing ones.
    I suggest you read my posts about Amir on here and the stats I have posted here and the tweets.

    As for strong opinions - always has been the case and always will be the case.



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    2 weeks out minimum.

    This is bad news on all levels as other players could be affected too! He must be quarantined.

    It takes a good 4 weeks to fully recover from Chicken pox, especially given his age.

    There is a glimmer of hope he may play, but I doubt he will be on the team sheet come 23rd May.

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    Chicken pox rash resolves within 7-10 days. i.e. you are only infectious during that period

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZulfi View Post
    Chicken pox rash resolves within 7-10 days. i.e. you are only infectious during that period
    Not true.

    He is contagious for a couple of days before the chicken pox even appeared, and a few days after pox disappear.

    The real concern here is that other players could be affected without them even knowing!

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    Wish him a speedy recovery. A real shame as i wnated to see what a fired up Amir with his place on the line do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Technics 1210 View Post
    Not true.

    He is contagious for a couple of days before the chicken pox even appeared, and a few days after pox disappear.

    The real concern here is that other players could be affected without them even knowing!
    This is called baal ki khaal nikalna!! I meant you are contagious until all lesion have crusted over, usu 10 days

    Other players most likely had had it already. In fact, chickenpox is so common in childhood that over 90% of adults are immune to the condition because they've had it before.

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    Oh this is so bad. He was supposed to be man of the match in the finals and take all 10 wickets

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    Quote Originally Posted by AZulfi View Post
    This is called baal ki khaal nikalna!! I meant you are contagious until all lesion have crusted over, usu 10 days

    Other players most likely had had it already. In fact, chickenpox is so common in childhood that over 90% of adults are immune to the condition because they've had it before.
    Well Amir was not immune, and he is an adult.

    You are right most children tend to experience chicken pox at a young age, but an adult still can contract it in the form of Shingles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    I suggest you read my posts about Amir on here and the stats I have posted here and the tweets.

    As for strong opinions - always has been the case and always will be the case.
    Yes which is why I'm a little surprised to not here any about his club level bowling...

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    One of his good friends said to me that he will be ok by 19th May - let's see.

    That could mean him playing in the 5th ODI.



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    Inshallah he recovers quick. Also, he should be careful not to spread it to other players

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    One of his good friends said to me that he will be ok by 19th May - let's see.

    That could mean him playing in the 5th ODI.
    It would be a miracle, but inshallah you never know. Even on the 19th he would feel weak.

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    Guys please stay on topic please, which is regarding Mohammad Amir.

    Thanks.

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    Takes 10-14 days to recover from CP. depending upon when he contracted it, I still highly doubt he will be fit by the 19th.

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    They should still pick him for the WC. He still has potential to rise up in big matches and Pakistan desperately needs a bowler like him. He also has gone up against some of the best players in the world and most Pakistani bowlers do not have that experience and would probably shrink against top batsmen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stewie View Post
    Takes 10-14 days to recover from CP. depending upon when he contracted it, I still highly doubt he will be fit by the 19th.
    My faith in PCB diagnostic abilities is a little low #Shadab


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    Unless he is likely to make a 100% recovery it would be a big waste to select him


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    Should be thrown to bin .... He is useless and uninterested

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    Call up Shinwari.


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    Yeah he’s out. Even if he recovers, for a period chickenpox will still be contagious to the others IIRC, can’t risk it.

    It’s not like he’s been taking 5fer after 5fer so hardly a loss as a player, but I wish him the best health wise.

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    What value does an unfit Amir bring to the side?

    If people still want him in the side after this those folks seriously need to brush up their cricketing IQ.

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    Flat decks hes not needed anyway get Wahab & Rauf in

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    There is plenty of time for him to recover if selected. At worst he'll miss a few opening matches.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mo Dipsy View Post
    Getting chicken pox as an adult is rough. My brother had it in his early 20s and it took him 3-4 weeks to recover and regain strength. I'm no doctor but PCB stating that he may play the 4th and 5th ODIs sounds implausible
    Maybe medicines have become more effective now. Amir will have access to best available medications - so PCB would be optimistic.

    But in any case he wasn't selected in wc squad. So pcb won't be worried about his wc position.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaankeJi View Post
    Maybe medicines have become more effective now. Amir will have access to best available medications - so PCB would be optimistic.

    But in any case he wasn't selected in wc squad. So pcb won't be worried about his wc position.
    It will be comical if he is selected in wc squad without playing in ODIs.

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    It normally takes 1-2 weeks to recover from chickenpox right? So still time for him to recover in time for the WC in theory inshallah.

    If Faheem plays the remaining 3 ODIs and doesn't perform Amor may get into the WC squad without having to play a game....

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    People here are thinking that Amir is wasim akram. Lol.
    He's a 130 k trundler.
    He was good in the CT17 coz he bowled 88mph+ consistently.
    He's going to make no difference.

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    Ridiculous that the PCB does not make sure that the players are vaccinated against these sorts of things. First Shadab getting Hep B and now Amir with chickenpox, both easily avoidable.

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    Bhaiyon, there is a difference between being physically fit and being match fit. And also this is 50 overs format that we are talking about in which Amir has to perform not t20 format. Can u imagine any other Cricket board carrying a player who has contracted chicken pox and hoping that he will be fit and play in a mega event like WC coz he performed well previously in global tournaments. It also says about the dearth of talent in Pakistan regarding bowlers that management is hell bent on playing Amir anyhow in the ENG series to give the selectors a chance to select him for WC.

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    Weak and medicore Amir is still better than strong Faheem Ashraf with both ball and bat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TalhaSyed View Post
    It normally takes 1-2 weeks to recover from chickenpox right? So still time for him to recover in time for the WC in theory inshallah.

    If Faheem plays the remaining 3 ODIs and doesn't perform Amor may get into the WC squad without having to play a game....
    So more of a trial for Faheem than Amir now! How ironic.


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    We need all-rounder Amir. Faheem Klosner can easily be replaced by Amir.

    Amir has 2 ODI fifties and some other important scores with the bat and Faheem has 0 ODI fifties, Amir take 5 wickets in last 14 ODI matches while Faheem has 1 wicket in last 6 ODIs

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    So more of a trial for Faheem than Amir now! How ironic.
    Hope Faheem failed with the ball ( his batting is nothing we already know it ) because Amir the All-rounder is more important than this fake All-rounder.

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    to win the world cup you need match winners, Amir is a match winner.

    The world cup is 6 weeks long, Amir will be fully fit by May 31 (our first match), he should be in the team.

    Only an idiot would choose SSA, Fahim or Hasnain over Amir.

    He was the hero in the 2009 WC final and the 2017 CT final, our two biggest moments in England. None of our other bowlers have shown any abiliyt to win a games on their own.


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    Im a doctor.

    Amir will be back to normal 6 weeks before the World Cup Final.

    I wrote a fortnight ago that this strategy of treating the England series as a wake up call for him was fraught with risk, because if he got a brief injury hed end up out of the main event.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angrypathan View Post
    Ridiculous that the PCB does not make sure that the players are vaccinated against these sorts of things. First Shadab getting Hep B and now Amir with chickenpox, both easily avoidable.
    you dont get vaccinated against chickenpox..

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    Quote Originally Posted by the Great Khan View Post
    you dont get vaccinated against chickenpox..
    Actually there is a vaccine for chicken pox for adults as crazy as it may sound.

    But CDC doles it out to military recruits, healthcare professionals and those who haven't had chicken pox and are likely to contract it because of handling infectious particles.


    And I get so high.. And I just can't feel it....


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