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    Parents who raise children as vegans should be prosecuted, say Belgian doctors

    https://news.yahoo.com/parents-raise...sf_akfmevaatca


    Doctors in Belgium have called for parents who raise their children as vegans to face prosecution after a number of deaths in schools, nurseries and hospitals.

    It is estimated that 3 percent of Belgian children are forced to follow the strict diet, which rules out any animal products, including dairy and eggs.

    The Royal Academy of Medicine of Belgium published a legal opinion on Thursday, which could influence future court judgments and is the first time a health authority has taken a position on veganism in the country.

    The opinion said it was unethical to subject children to the diet because it didn’t include animal proteins and vital amino acids which can help growth and prevent health problems.

    The vegan diet could only be made safe for growing children if complemented with medical supervision, regular blood tests and vitamin supplements, which most parents were not qualified to provide.

    “We must explain to the parents before compelling them,” said Professor Georges Casimir, who led the commission that wrote the report, “but we can no longer tolerate this endangerment.”

    "This restrictive regime requires ongoing monitoring of children to avoid deficiencies and often irreversible growth delays," the legal opinion said, "It is unsuitable for unborn children, children, teenagers and pregnant and lactating women."

    "It is not medically recommended and even forbidden to subject a child, especially during periods of rapid growth, to a potentially destabilising diet, requiring frequent supplementation and control,” it said.

    “This concept of nutrition is similar to a form of treatment that it is not ethical to impose on children.”

    The opinion was published after a request by Bernard Devos, a regional government official responsible for children’s rights and protection in Brussels and the French-speaking region of Wallonia.

    Mr Devos asked for the opinion after children suffered health complications, including a number of deaths, in schools, nurseries and hospitals, Belgium’s Le Soir newspaper reported.

    It would make it easier for him to enforce the separation of a child from parents who insisted the youngster followed the restrictive diet.

    Professor Casimir warned that such a strict regime would now legally qualify as “non-assistance to a person in danger”, a crime which carries a sentence of up to two years and fines in Belgium.

    A person cannot be convicted of the 1961 offence if he is unaware the person is in danger but the legal opinion now made it common knowledge that a vegan diet can kill, he told Le Soir.

    The pediatrician said, “When we are children, the body manufactures brain cells. This implies higher requirements for protein and essential fatty acids. The body does not produce them, it must be brought in via animal proteins.

    “We are talking here about stunted growth and psychomotor delays, undernutrition, significant anemia. Some developments must be done at a specific time in life and if they are not done, it is irreversible.”


    Dawn Carr, of PETA, said, "What a load of ignorant codswallop! NHS nutritionists confirm that while a meat- and dairy-based diet is what strikes people down in adulthood – as it can lead to hardened arteries that cause stroke, brain aneurysms, and heart attacks – a well-planned vegan diet is perfect for babies and children.

    "Kids, including my own, thrive on a balanced vegan diet, but as with any dietary regime, it's the parent's responsibility to ensure their child is getting all the necessary nutrients. And yes, that's easier to achieve on a vibrant vegan diet rich in whole grains, vegetables, and pulses."

    Heather Russell, dietitian at The Vegan Society, said: “Nutritional planning is important for everyone, not just vegans. It’s possible to provide all the nutrients needed for growth and development without animal products.”

    “Both the British Dietetic Association and the American Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics recognise that well-planned vegan diets can support healthy living in people of all ages, including infants, children, teenagers and pregnant and breastfeeding women,” she added.

    In 2017, in Beveren, Belgium a couple were sentenced to a suspended six month sentence after their seven-month-old baby died of malnutrition and dehydration.

    The infant’s death was blamed by doctors on the parents’ choice to only feed it vegetable milk.


    A survey published last year found that 44 percent of Belgians had cut their meat consumption, despite the country’s fondness for Flemish beef stew and frites cooked in beef, horse or goose fat. 16 percent of Belgians said they eat mostly vegetarian.

    The trend mirrors that seen across Europe, as concerns over climate change and animal welfare grow.


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    You would think any diet which requires supplements to bring up a healthy child would ring alarm bells for parents.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    You would think any diet which requires supplements to bring up a healthy child would ring alarm bells for parents.
    Typically you only need B12 supplements, and that too usually as an adult. Nothing wrong with that.

    This story isn't saying much. You can malnourish children on a vegan, vegetarian, nonvegetarian, etc diet.

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    Another attempt at systematically demonising minorities in Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sachin136 View Post
    Typically you only need B12 supplements, and that too usually as an adult. Nothing wrong with that.

    This story isn't saying much. You can malnourish children on a vegan, vegetarian, nonvegetarian, etc diet.
    So is the claim that the vegan diet for children needs to be supplemented with vitamins in that article false?


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    Nothing wrong with being vegan as long as you eat the right substitutes. A few of my friends have gone vegan for environmental reasons and it is admirable. I don’t ever see myself doing it though

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    Will never understand veganism.

    Vegetarianism is something I've tried myself and is totally fine, but denying yourself completely natural dairy products just seems madness to me. Can understand why people may have issues with the industries as a whole but surely then you source more organic products instead of cutting them off entirely?

    Maybe I'm ignorant but living off of zero dairy, as mammals no less considering humans produce it naturally themselves, and supplements instead just seems unnatural and asking for some serious health issues.


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    This is an extremely sensationalised headline and article. They are basically saying that parents should be given their children the right amount of nutrients, vitamins and a balanced diet which is possible with a vegan diet, even if it is difficult. No doctor is asking you to be arrested for being vegan and having a child.


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