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    "Pakistan always have something up their sleeve when it comes to major tournaments" : David Lloyd

    In an exclusive interview with PakPassion.net, popular television commentator David 'Bumble' Lloyd spoke about his impressions of Pakistan's recent performance against England in the ODI series, why he is impressed with the likes of Imam-ul-Haq, Shaheen Shah Afridi and Mohammad Hasnain, the importance of Mohammad Amir and Shadab Khan to the Pakistan bowling attack and who he thinks are the teams to watch out for at the ICC World Cup 2019.




    PakPassion.net: Do you think it's fair to say that Pakistan looked pretty flat in the recent ODI series against England?

    David Lloyd:
    Yes, that's fair. They've been on the losing end of the series and they were up against a crack outfit in their own back yard. But don't write Pakistan off, they always have something up their sleeve when it comes to major tournaments just as we saw in the 2017 Champions Trophy. You can't get away from the fact that the One-Day series for both Pakistan and England was preparation for the World Cup and to give a chance to all of the players.


    PakPassion.net: Anyone from the Pakistan side impress you during the recent ODI series against England?

    David Lloyd:
    I've seen some really good players that impressed me in the Pakistan team. Imam-ul-Haq looks like a fabulous player at the top of the innings, with a solid defence and a good variety of shots. He'll get better with age and with more experience. Also, there are the young bowlers Shaheen Shah Afridi and Mohammad Hasnain who will also get better with experience. You have to remember that Shaheen and Hasnain will probably have never seen the likes of Headingley where you are running up the hill to the pitch itself and that will have been a great learning experience for the 19-year-olds. What have these lads got? I'm not bothered what they haven't got, but what they have is 90 MPH pace and in 4 years’ time they'll be fitter, stronger, better and have more experience.


    PakPassion.net: The recent additions to the Pakistan squad are vital, aren't they?

    David Lloyd:
    Shadab Khan is a very important addition for Pakistan and he's a quality player. He's a good cricketer and you want good cricketers in your squad and for me he just walks straight back into the squad. He's a lad who is very good with the ball, excellent in the field, fields like a dream and more than handy with the bat. Most importantly, Pakistan need his bowling as he's someone who spins it both ways. This is crucial for Pakistan because what we are seeing from Imad Wasim is that he's not spinning it and just darting it through at 63 or 64 MPH and if he's slightly off line he's going to get tapped. When it comes to Mohammad Amir, it is quite possible that may get his mojo back. He's, after all, a quality bowler so I'd expect him to raise his game for the World Cup.


    PakPassion.net: Is it the right call to add Mohammad Amir to the World Cup squad despite his recent struggles?

    David Lloyd:
    I think it is. He deserves it for what he has done in the past. He's had a barren patch of 5 wickets in 14 ODIs but here in England you might just get overcast conditions or a bit of dampness and if you have someone like Mohammad Amir, someone of his quality then it could be his day. Of course, it’s the right call to have him in the Pakistan's World Cup squad.


    PakPassion.net: What are your thoughts on Pakistan's current batting unit?

    David Lloyd:
    Mickey Arthur before the England series wanted his batsmen to up their strike-rates as their strike-rates are not big enough and that is something that they still have to address. On these pitches in the World Cup you have to score 350 or more. The pitches for the World Cup will be similar to what we saw in the England versus Pakistan series. They'll be flat, easy-paced and there won't be a blade of grass on them. The boundaries won't be as short as we have just seen but they'll be short enough. So, 350 is a par score on those surfaces and your bowlers will have to respond to this challenge.


    PakPassion.net: The totals may have been impressive, but the Pakistan strike-rates weren't that impressive against England, were they?

    David Lloyd:
    No, the strike-rates weren't quick enough. It reminded me of England 15 years ago playing cricket which was 10 years behind. You've got to give it a tap and get on with it nowadays. England used to have a phrase ‘No Fear Cricket’ and that's what Pakistan need at the moment as sometimes the urgency isn't there. But as I said earlier, they'll still have something up their sleeve for the World Cup.


    PakPassion.net: Do you expect Pakistan to raise their game for the World Cup?

    David Lloyd:
    Yes, it will be like horse-racing, where you are better-off after a race. Get a couple of races under your belt and then you get going and that's what Pakistan will be hoping after the matches against England. Over the years, Pakistan have always had that unpredictability, but unfortunately what I saw in the 5-match series against England was predictability. But I repeat, don't rule them out.


    PakPassion.net: Despite the Champions Trophy win in 2017 and the unpredictability factor, it would be a huge surprise if Pakistan won the World Cup this time around?

    David Lloyd:
    Every team in the World Cup will be saying to themselves, don't underestimate Pakistan or you will come unstuck. Any team that underestimates Pakistan could be in for a surprise.


    PakPassion.net: Do you agree with the assessment that Mickey Arthur and Sarfaraz Ahmed have two of the toughest jobs in sport?

    David Lloyd:
    Pakistan have had some fantastic players in the past like Younis Khan, Inzamam-ul-Haq, Wasim Akram, Waqar Younis, Javed Miandad, Mushtaq Ahmed and Abdul Qadir. All these names are iconic cricketers so the expectations will always be there. Pakistan cricket expects great players to emerge and that's where Mickey Arthur and Sarfaraz Ahmed need to sort it out and make the current players emerge and flourish.


    PakPassion.net: Who do you see as the favourites for the World Cup?

    David Lloyd:
    England are favourites, Australia are coming good and India will be a firepower team. Pakistan are always there or thereabouts, but nobody has mentioned New Zealand. I've watched New Zealand closely and they are a fine team, a very good team and they are used to punching above their weight.


    PakPassion.net: What is the secret to success at the World Cup? Is it consistency or the X-factor?

    David Lloyd:
    The pitches will be that flat that the bowlers will be serving it up in envelopes so what you need are wicket-takers. I'd be looking at whose got the best bowling-attack, whose got the most potent attack, whose got the attack that can take wickets. With that in mind, Australia are up there, and I think England are right up there too. India have a strong batting unit, but they've also got some really good bowlers. It's going to be a cracking World Cup, and somebody is going to spoil the party. I wonder if it might just come down to as Pakistan have done in the past many times, start slowly and just get better and better. England have been consistent for a long period of time and they've got good method so that could also be vital.


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    Said it many times come the KO games, business end of the WC. Semi final PAK vs ENG. You know which team will win.

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    Most importantly, Pakistan need his bowling as he's someone who spins it both ways. This is crucial for Pakistan because what we are seeing from Imad Wasim is that he's not spinning it and just darting it through at 63 or 64 MPH and if he's slightly off line he's going to get tapped.
    Bumble spots this in one series yet we play Imad in series after series as the lead spinner despite the fact he's not penetrative enough during the middle over.

    He can be useful as an economical second spinner but it's foolhardy to expect him to be a matchwinning wicket-taking lead spinner.

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    Bumble is one funny guy. I enjoy his commentator. His experience of coaching,umpiring,and playing give us plenty of knowledge from the com box.

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    Great read as always!

    Sky Sports has the best commentators in the world - knowledgeable.
    Last edited by Mueez; 23rd May 2019 at 02:55.

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    reaching semis would be a huge achievment i think

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mueez View Post
    Great read as always!

    Sky Sports has the best commentators in the world - knowledgeable.
    Love Bumble and Nas. Like Athers. But Robert Key angered me to no end.
    Last edited by MenInG; 23rd May 2019 at 10:17.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stewie View Post
    Love Bumble and Nas. Like Athers. But Robert Key angered me to no end.
    Yeah I was also a bit disappointed with Isa Guha.

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    Lloyd has always been worried about Pakistan, ever since 92 when he was fretting about cornered tigers. He's still worried to this day that we are liable to pull something out of the bag from nowhere.


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    To be honest, in my experience Pakistan has only done well when there were zero expectations by everyone and it was to the point where the opposition made fun of them.

    Don't think the opposition are taking Pakistan lightly at all even though our ODI form has been wretched from 2017 to now

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    The type of pitches which give runfests and the format of the tourney I.e. round robin demand consistency which are not the strengths of Pakistan team so I fear a round robin exit even with a couple of games to spare knock out format suited us like 4 groups of 3, 2 to progress in k.o


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    Over the years, Pakistan have always had that unpredictability, but unfortunately what I saw in the 5-match series against England was predictability
    This bit worried me. He's right.

    England knew exactly every move of Sarfaraz's and there was very little innovation or thinking out of the box. This needs to change.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    This bit worried me. He's right.

    England knew exactly every move of Sarfaraz's and there was very little innovation or thinking out of the box. This needs to change.
    Don't see Sarfaraz changing much. To be honest he doesn't have the resources either. We don't have a single quality spinner in the side and the pitches are not going to assist the pacers. The pacers have to find a way to get some reverse swing on the ball in the middle overs, that was the secret to our success in the 2017 CT

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    Yes, its haris sohail!

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    This is going to be Pakistan's best chance for winning the WC for a while. Amir and now Shaheen are quite dangerous in English conditions. They have the ability to rip through the top order of any team, as they showed in the game today and in the CT 17 final.

    In comparison, in Asian conditions the Pakistan bowling attack is rather toothless (see Asia Cup 2018). They aren't much better in SA, WI etc. But right now in England, I would say they should be counted as one of the favorites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Napa View Post
    This is going to be Pakistan's best chance for winning the WC for a while. Amir and now Shaheen are quite dangerous in English conditions. They have the ability to rip through the top order of any team, as they showed in the game today and in the CT 17 final.

    In comparison, in Asian conditions the Pakistan bowling attack is rather toothless (see Asia Cup 2018). They aren't much better in SA, WI etc. But right now in England, I would say they should be counted as one of the favorites.
    Please share the data that compels you to believe Shaheen is “quite dangerous in English conditions”.

    Funnily enough Shaheen has a better record in UAE than he does in England. Had you actually thought about what you were saying you’d not put your Ivy League credentials in doubt. The same was said (by Indians) about Hasan Ali after the CT that England will always be the perfect place for a bowler like him...proved untrue in this WC.

    Fact is Shaheen had been horrible so far despite the couple of wickets he took against Australia.

    It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to admit he bowled a better line and length and that in return made him do well. Somehow the English conditions are only assisting Amir and Shaheen and they’re “ripping apart top orders” when consistent proven swing bowlers like Boult aren’t getting any help.

    Either Indians can’t call it how it is when it comes to Pakistan or they’re intentionally intellectually dishonest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Napa View Post
    That observation was based on CT 17 and today's game.



    In UAE, against India his figures were 6-0-42-0. I confess I do not follow Pakistani cricket that closely, and my assessment of Shaheen placed undue weight on his performance against India (whose cricket I follow only a bit more closely).



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    There are superior ways of wasting one's life than lying on internet forums.
    Shaheen didn’t debut before 2018 so not sure which CT you’ve been watching. I think the stuff you try to spin is hilarious. You could do better if you tried like some of your other countrymen on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshakir411 View Post
    Shaheen didn’t debut before 2018 so not sure which CT you’ve been watching. I think the stuff you try to spin is hilarious. You could do better if you tried like some of your other countrymen on here.
    You obviously missed that I had written "Amir and now...".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Napa View Post
    You obviously missed that I had written "Amir and now...".
    LOl. What worked for Shaheen now that didn’t last week?

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    Thank you Bumble sahib I have always respected your humbleness and attitude to the game. You sir are a credit to the game unlike many other commentators. I am a bumblemaniac!


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    Since the death of Tony Greig, David is my fav commentator.

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    .... may be so .... but the Indians are going to be hard to beat !!!! Not that it cannot happen .... but you know what I mean !!!!

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    Actually David, apart from the WC 92 and the last CT, they really don't have much up their sleeves in tournaments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snatch View Post
    Actually David, apart from the WC 92 and the last CT, they really don't have much up their sleeves in tournaments.
    So tired of these lazy cliches that are used to describe Pakistan cricket.

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    Us being a tournament team is a myth.

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    Got on a roll but just a little too late. Oh well.


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