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    Good to see pakistan showing the mediocre performances we should expect during world cup. We are that bad now we are asian minnows behind bangla and afghans in ODI cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TalhaSyed View Post
    Maybe I'm playing devils advocate, however, it's worth remembering that this is a warm up game and this is a risk of televising warm up games.

    Now don't get me wrong - their is no reasonable excuse for Pakistan to lose to Afghanistan (no offense to anyone) - however, the purpose of today's game was to get players into rythym and ready for the world cup. It was to try different things and see what works.

    If that means continuing to bowl Shaheen even if he's getting smashed around the park in the hope he gets into rythym - so be it.

    If that means gambling with Shadab in the 49th over to see how he gets on - so be it. If he hadn't bowled that one poor delivery which went 4 the story could have been very different and the decision to bowl Shadab would be getting praised.

    If that means you bowl Wahab till he finds rythym - like he did in the end - so be it.

    Again - I completely get why people are annoyed at Sarfraz in general and agree he needs to I prove his performance with bat and in the field. However, simply ranting about the captaincy for today's defeat is diverting the attention from bigger problems such as collapsing and not being able to bat 50 overs against Afg, or Shaheen looking in terrible rythym at the moment. We need to focus on those problems in my opinion.
    This is the team's 5th consecutive game in England now, how much time do they need to get acclimitized to the conditions and to figure out an effective bowling strategy. Pakistan has been batting way better than what it used to under Misbah ul Haq from 2011 to 2015, we are losing games because our bowling attack is over rated and has had nothing to show for it especially after the end of a pre 15 degree Ajmal and Hafeez, the bowlers neither pick up wickets up front, neither keep things tight and don't bowl well at the death either. You cannot win cricket matches if the bowlers cant pick up 10 wickets.

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    Its too late to do any changes now but the entire coaching staff needs to be shown the door after this tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    The coach is not the all mighty binding authority, Mickey Arthur's one rule for his favorites, another for those in his bad books was now hurting Pakistan. The inclusion of Wahab has now given Pakistan an option at the death and he looked miles better than the other bowlers in the team. Pakistan is also now paying a price for not grooming additional proper spinners apart from Shadab in the last few years.
    Of course Mickey can't cover everything but if he has/had a plan, he needs to stick by it and push the ideology he said he would (fitness and being well drilled).

    Riaz has always shown glimpses of bowling well in the past...on maybe 5 occasions in 10 years. The man is a huge liability and you are all the same people who will claim once he gets hit out the park yet again.

    I agree with the spin point but there are a fair few to pick from in Pakistan but they have been ignored. If that is the case then Hafeez and Malik should bowl as many overs as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stewie View Post
    Pleaser let us know if you ever find the answer to these very reasonable questions?
    The only thing that comes to mind is that safaraz wanted to give shadab some cofidence before the actual wc, as he has just come back from illness. This is only a warm up match and does not have odi status. However, we been on a 10 game losing streak and for team morale we needed to win this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stewie View Post
    We were! Those who say otherwise are kidding themselves. Who would not want a win after a 10 loss stretch! Seems to me this team has completely forgotten the taste of victory and how to go about getting one. Itís a serious problem right now..

    I see an early exit for us if we continue to bowl like this!
    Precisely.
    I honestly dont expect them to win even a single game.No way they are winning against any of the regular top teams and even Bangladesh has had the better of them in recent times.
    They might just beat Afghanistan only if the batting clicks and they dont make an absolute hash of the bowling but then again,you cant expect the ball to reverse every time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stewie View Post
    I would like to see Afghanistan score 300 plus against England consistently for 3/4 games.

    Pakistanís problems are all narrowed down to the inability to take wickets and skill wise our bowlers are far far ahead of Afghanistanís. They just need a plan and a kick up their backsides. Itís the same side that boasted all the teams to the ICCCT victory not too long ago obliterating India in the final. Need to revisit that winning strategy and formula. I have no doubt we can do it.
    Give Afghanistan same amount of matches against qualities side as Pakistans gets and then lets see whether Afghanistan can cross 300 against England in 5 years time. People here forgets that Afghanistan 10 years ago played in division 5, with no facilties at home.

    Am watching lot of Afghan cricket and believe me, once Shahzad, Shinwari, Noor Ali and Asghar retires Afghanistan will be a force. The next generation are of Afghan cricketers are proper athletes who have learned their cricket through domestic academies, while Asghars generation were all street cricketers before they joined Afghanistan U19 back in 2004-5

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    Did anyone notice that safaraz was the only batsman who was picking rashid khan? Not even hafeez or malik were picking him. Safaraz needs to take more reponsibilty, he could have easily batted to the end of the innings and we could have scored close to 300, but he got too aggressive and got himself out
    Ive seen him do this too many times now!.

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    Afghanistan geared up for the ICC Men's Cricket World Cup 2019 in England and Wales with a brilliant performance against Pakistan in Bristol, prevailing by three wickets in a tight affair.

    Afghanistan pinned their opponents to 262 all out thanks to a dominant bowling effort, and despite a masterful Babar Azam ton, Hazratullah Zazai's 28-ball 49 and 74* from Hashmatullah Shahidi saw Gulbadin Naib's side reach their target with just two balls to spare in a thrilling finish on Friday, 24 May.

    It was another disappointing outing for Pakistan, having been beaten in their last 10 ODIs prior to this fixture.

    Pakistan won the toss and elected to bat, and Afghanistan’s good early efforts with the ball were marred by some poor fielding, as a few catches went down in the early overs.

    Hamid Hassan cleaned up the in-form Imam-ul-Haq (32) however, prompting jubilant roars from the Afghan supporters. A double-strike from Mohammad Nabi (3/46) then shifted the momentum in favour of Afghanistan.

    Fakhar Zaman (19) was lured into a drive and bowled through the gate, before Haris Sohail played down the wrong line, exposing a slither of his off-stump, sufficient room for Nabi to hone in and dislodge the bails once again.

    Azam then began to accumulate in style, unperturbed by the wickets falling around him. He brought up his 50 from 51, before reaching his century from 99, Shoaib Malik’s 44 providing adequate support and helping to steady the ship in the middle overs.

    Nabi, grabbing his third wicket, then forced Malik to hole out as he looked to accelerate, and Pakistan collapsed from 203/4 in the 38th over to a disappointing 262 all out.

    Rashid Khan was imperious in his efforts, dismissing the experienced duo of Sarfaraz Ahmed (13) and Mohammad Hafeez (12) in a nine-over spell which yielded just 27 runs. Babar’s dismissal in the 46th over quelled any chance of a late run-surge.

    Zazai got Afghanistan off to a blistering start Zazai got Afghanistan off to a blistering start
    In reply, Afghanistan got off to a swift start. Mohammad Shahzad (23*) did leave the field as a precaution after feeling pain in his left knee, having got his innings under way fluently, but his partner Zazai remained in a free-scoring mood. He smashed Shaheen Shah Afridi (0/51) for five fours in the fourth over but fell one short of 50 after skying Imad Wasim, Malik taking an excellent running catch from deep mid-wicket.

    The classy Rahmat Shah chipped in with 32 before edging behind down leg, gifting Wahab Riaz (3/46) his first wicket, and two quick scalps from the economical Wasim (2/29) helped plug the run-flow somewhat in the middle overs. Samiullah Shinwari (22) departed just as he had begun to find his rhythm, and the run-rate started to rise as Pakistan could sense a potential comeback.


    Three wickets in 10 balls then ensued as Sarfaraz's side probed successfully and Afghanistan began to flounder, Wahab's brace of wickets rocking the batting side.

    Still, Shahidi was at his watchful best, calmly manoeuvering the ball around the park and guiding his side to their target. With four needed from the final over, and Rashid for company, they confirmed victory with two balls to spare.

    https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/1225557


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    Pakistan are more than accustomed to being viewed as outsiders coming into global tournaments. It is a position they have previously used to their advantage, with Sarfaraz Ahmed’s side upsetting the odds only two years ago to lift the ICC Champions Trophy on English soil.

    Babar Azam scored 112 but Pakistan fell to defeat to Afghanistan by three wickets

    Pakistan are more than accustomed to being viewed as outsiders coming into global tournaments. It is a position they have previously used to their advantage, with Sarfaraz Ahmed’s side upsetting the odds only two years ago to lift the ICC Champions Trophy on English soil.

    And despite that triumph, which included a stunning 180-run win over fierce rivals India in the final, expectations have been tempered once again ahead of the ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup 2019.

    This time around, a mixed run of one-day form and selection issues have dogged Pakistan’s build-up to the flagship event in the international cricket calendar

    The 1992 World Cup champions were swept aside 4-0 by England earlier this month. That series defeat extended their overall record to ten consecutive ODI defeats and prompted Pakistan management to recall Mohammad Amir and Wahab Riaz from the international wilderness.

    But amid the disappointment of suffering a clean sweep to the World Cup hosts, Pakistan did find comfort in the formidable form of Babar Azam.

    The 24-year-old, the world’s top-ranked Twenty20 international batsman, appeared at home in English conditions during his four innings, notching 234 runs at an average of 117.

    With two half-centuries and a century, he stood head and shoulders above the rest of his teammates as his classy stroke-making proved a constant thorn in England’s side.

    And he was at it again in Pakistan’s opening warm up game against Afghanistan, firing another century to hold together his nation’s vulnerable batting unit against the perennial underdogs.

    Pakistan had won all three of their previous encounters against Afghanistan before their meeting at the Bristol County Ground, although they had been run close in the Asia Cup last year.

    Yet there was a feeling of an upset in the air before a bowl was even bowled and Afghanistan’s confidence was only bolstered after Imam-ul-Haq was removed for 32 runs in the ninth over.

    His wicket brought Azam to the crease - and it was not long before he was working his magic, greeting Hamid Hassan with two boundaries, including a picture-perfect cover drive.

    While Azam appeared comfortable from the moment he walked out, opener Fakhar Zaman survived a number of scares from the start of the innings.

    He was left stranded in the eighth over after Mujeeb Rahman beat the edge of his bat, only for Afghanistan wicketkeeper Mohammed Shazhad to miss his chance at a stumping.

    That let off was soon followed by further missed chances when Zaman was dropped twice in three balls - first off the bowling of Hassan, and then from Mohammad Nabi’s delivery.

    His luck eventually ran out in the 11th over when Nabi got the wicket he deserved, with Zaman beaten through the gate by one which turned less than he was expecting.

    Nabi followed up his first breakthrough by taking another wicket two balls later as Harris Sohail edged the ball onto his own stumps to leave Pakistan on 65-3.

    But while the wickets were falling around him, Azam remained in complete control as he continued to pile on runs, bringing up his half century from 51 balls to steady the innings.

    Not once did Amaz look in danger of giving up his wicket despite Rashid Khan causing his Pakistan teammates all sorts of bother, removing Mohammad Hafeez for 12.

    He received some much-needed support from the next man in, Shoaib Malik, as the pairing started to pick up the run rate and the first six of the game arrived in the 33rd over.

    Amaz continued to pick off the bad balls and, despite losing Malik in the 38th over, he completed a beautifully crafted century off 99 balls in the 43rd over as Pakistan finished on 262 all out.

    His efforts ultimately proved to be in vain as Afghanistan completed a memorable victory off the final over - further evidence of their rapid improvement on the international stage.

    The three-wicket victory was deserved reward for the Afghans. But in Amaz, Pakistan possess a player with such talent that their World Cup hopes should not be written off just yet.


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    Just another point guys. This pitch was a used pitch(used only a few days ago) and thats why it was offering some assistance to spinners. The wc pitches will be more like the englad seies pitches(350 par score) i.e. fresh pitches and not so much assistance to spinners. The commies were discussing this.

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    Pathetic performance by Pakistan. Shows the standard our team is at when we lose to Afghanistan and I'm not even massively shocked. Overall though, I wasn't too interested in today's match, was barely even following it on the TV which is different to the England vs Pakistan series where I couldn't even miss a single ball. Some fans are getting so emotional about this loss, but I'd rather lose to them now than in the group stage. Remember in the 2013 CT we beat SA in the warm up but they smashed us in the proper game. Same thing in 2012 World T20 with India.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hadi123 View Post
    Pathetic performance by Pakistan. Shows the standard our team is at when we lose to Afghanistan and I'm not even massively shocked. Overall though, I wasn't too interested in today's match, was barely even following it on the TV which is different to the England vs Pakistan series where I couldn't even miss a single ball. Some fans are getting so emotional about this loss, but I'd rather lose to them now than in the group stage. Remember in the 2013 CT we beat SA in the warm up but they smashed us in the proper game. Same thing in 2012 World T20 with India.
    A lot of people are annoyed coz sarfaraz used a spinner in the second last over. We should have won this tbh.

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    <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-partner="tweetdeck"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In the crazy world of Pakistan cricket:<br><br>10 ODI losses in a row<br>19 losses out of 23 matches in all formats<br>Warm-up loss to Afghanistan<br>Lack of match-practice for several players<br>Fitness concerns over some players<br><br>But they could still go on and win the World Cup<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CWC19?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CWC19</a></p>&mdash; Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) <a href="https://twitter.com/Saj_PakPassion/status/1131969171783409666?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 24, 2019</a></blockquote>
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    malik and hafeez both should not play in one team...

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    Quote Originally Posted by foulu View Post
    I have the same question and I dont even post here much.. why did Sarfaraz give over to shadab when ball was reversing with amir and hasnain's overs left? Why, just why???
    Because this was warm up match and sarfi wanted to test how will shadab do if he give him ball in death overs.
    Reminder. It was a warmup match.

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    Afghanistan captain Gulbadin Naib stressed the significance of his side’s thrilling victory against Pakistan after their opening warm-up game for the World Cup.

    Afghanistan captain Gulbadin Naib stressed the significance of his side’s thrilling victory against Pakistan after their opening warm-up game for the World Cup.

    Naib’s men beat Pakistan by three-wickets at the Bristol County Ground for their first-ever ODI victory against Sarfaraz Ahmed’s side in only their fourth meeting.

    Babar Azam continued his impressive form as he struck a century for Pakistan as they posted 262 all out, but it was not enough to prevent Afghanistan completing a successful run-chase.

    Hashmattullah Shaidi finished unbeaten on 74 not out as the Afghans prevailed with two balls to spare - and Naib hailed the confidence-boosting performance from his side.

    “Pakistan are a good team,” said Naib. “I respect them and they have huge respect in the cricket world, so today is our day and we played some good cricket.

    “I thought before the start of the game we would need 300-plus runs in my mind, but the bowlers did really well - the likes of Hamid Hassan, Mujeeb Rahman and Mohammad Nabi.

    “That’s what helped us defeat them as they finished on 262. We have the bowling attack to be able to do that but we need to improve in our batting.

    “Today is the day we’ve been waiting for, especially all Afghanistan fans. To beat Afghanistan on this kind of stage is not a small thing for us, this is big for us.

    “I have full confidence in my team, the morale is very high among the boys and we’re really excited to be here. I am sure we will improve more and more as we go on.”

    Pakistan were coming into the game off the back of a 4-0 ODI series defeat to England and the loss to Afghanistan extends their winless run to 11 consecutive one-day games.

    They found themselves in trouble after being reduced to 65-3 when Nabi stuck twice in the 12th over, before Azam (112) and Shoaib Malik (44) put on 103 for the fifth wicket.

    Hazratullah Zazai then got Afghanistan’s chase off to a blistering start with 49 from 28 balls, before Shahidi steered his country to a famous victory despite Wahab Riaz taking 3-46.

    But Naib insists the best is yet to come from Afghanistan, who were knocked out in the group stage on their World Cup debut in 2015, as they prepare for a second warm-up game against England.

    “If you look back to my country the last 30-40 years, the situation in Afghanistan, everyone just wants a reason to smile and I think only cricket gives to them joy, entertainment and unity,” he said.

    “I think to see our fans who are living in England, not just here in Bristol but from London, Manchester, coming and cheering on their team is the sort of support we needed.

    “It is a good start for our team and for the last eight months we’ve waited for this day, not even just for Pakistan but looking forward for the other matches in the tournament.

    “If you look at Pakistan’s side it’s got a lot of experience in bowling attack, Wahab Riaz bowled really well, so the game was in our hands and we just carried on and played our game.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bangladesh_Fan View Post
    Easy warm up they said
    Quote Originally Posted by BD Tigers View Post
    Have to feel for you guys.

    You have to constantly reiterate that this is a warm up match and even mock the celebration of Afghanistan

    Just admit you were served humble pie
    Quote Originally Posted by Mainul View Post
    CT champions are humiliated. So sad..



    Now some posters will come out saying that these are warm ups .But I can say that if there are a ODI series between Afg and Pak, Afgans will win I think.

    Afgans will cause upsets in this WC I think.
    Quote Originally Posted by BD Tigers View Post
    You were talking big before this match

    What happened now? Lol
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    How can you do well when you are going to be up against the Tigers?
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    Nice excuse

    How does it feel to lose against the minnow basher?
    as in urdu said.

    begani shadi mein abdullah deewana

    thanks for you kind wishes .See you soon hopefully your big brother won,t mind and whine when you guys get it back on face

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    Quote Originally Posted by saeed5646 View Post
    as in urdu said.

    begani shadi mein abdullah deewana

    thanks for you kind wishes .See you soon hopefully your big brother won,t mind and whine when you guys get it back on face
    Sunday.
    Mark the date.
    @BD Tigers don't go into hiding when bd loses against Pak.
    Last edited by Ronaldo7; 25th May 2019 at 02:55.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronaldo7 View Post
    Sunday.
    Mark the date.
    @BD Tigers don't go into hiding when bd loses against Pak.
    Not talking about the matches which is non official and zero value in cricket book .Worldcup matches is real priority


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    This is really depressing. This Pakistani side is the weakest I've seen for years and years. They don't look like being able to compete at all. Where have all the good bowlers gone? I've never seen more pies being thrown than today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    This is the team's 5th consecutive game in England now, how much time do they need to get acclimitized to the conditions and to figure out an effective bowling strategy. Pakistan has been batting way better than what it used to under Misbah ul Haq from 2011 to 2015, we are losing games because our bowling attack is over rated and has had nothing to show for it especially after the end of a pre 15 degree Ajmal and Hafeez, the bowlers neither pick up wickets up front, neither keep things tight and don't bowl well at the death either. You cannot win cricket matches if the bowlers cant pick up 10 wickets.
    Your answering your own question.

    As you said - the team is struggling due to the lack of impactful bowlers. Make no difference if they have played 5 games or 50 games.

    The issue isn't the captaincy - it's the poor bowling.

    So what can Sarfraz and the management do other than try different combinations until they come across something that works?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Afhan Ali View Post
    Afg will win it with 3 wickets in hand
    Any guesses about the winner of WC 2019 ?


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    Akhtar was a sight man, from his run up to delivery. Beautiful bowling and his celebration, what a superstar he was. Still havenít seen any international bowler who can give me goosebumps like he did
    Nostalgic ! Shoaib Akhtar was an out and out superstar. The fastest bowler in the history of cricket.

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    A warm up match that if won wold have given the side a much needed boost. Now ppers are looking for scraps of comfort and resorting to the well it was a warm up match. Even a win in your local park is a win that makes the team feel good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TalhaSyed View Post
    Your answering your own question.

    As you said - the team is struggling due to the lack of impactful bowlers. Make no difference if they have played 5 games or 50 games.

    The issue isn't the captaincy - it's the poor bowling.

    So what can Sarfraz and the management do other than try different combinations until they come across something that works?
    The problem with safi is that his field settings are too defensive. He only employs a slip after a catch goes to the slip region. He lets batsman take easy singles. Hasmatullah was basically just playing the ball to the same place and taking a single over and over again, safi didnt even try to block the run off
    Hasan ali and amir should open the bowling. Amir to keep it tight and hasan to try and get a wicket or 2.
    Death oves amir and wahab. Amir too keep it tight and wahab to try and take some wickets. Thats all amir can do these days is be economical. These are the only 3 pacers that should be employed, with hasnain as back up on the bench. Shaheen should not play a single game in this world cup. Ideally , we should have selected shinwari and haris rauf instead of the 2 teenagers and we also needed umer khan in he team in place of shadab.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pakistani pride View Post
    Maybe cause this us a warm up match?
    I realise that its a warm up match but i cant see any situation were you would bowl shadab in the 49 th over instead of amir.
    We are a 10 run losing streak and the players morale look down, we needed this win and we should have won this game, if amir had bowled the 49 over

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    Quote Originally Posted by Afhan Ali View Post
    Afg will win it with 3 wickets in hand
    Great prediction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain caveman View Post
    The problem with safi is that his field settings are too defensive. He only employs a slip after a catch goes to the slip region. He lets batsman take easy singles. Hasmatullah was basically just playing the ball to the same place and taking a single over and over again, safi didnt even try to block the run off
    Hasan ali and amir should open the bowling. Amir to keep it tight and hasan to try and get a wicket or 2.
    Death oves amir and wahab. Amir too keep it tight and wahab to try and take some wickets. Thats all amir can do these days is be economical. These are the only 3 pacers that should be employed, with hasnain as back up on the bench. Shaheen should not play a single game in this world cup. Ideally , we should have selected shinwari and haris rauf instead of the 2 teenagers and we also needed umer khan in he team in place of shadab.
    Their are definitely areas of Sarfraz's captaincy which he needs to develop and we've been saying that for a while. However, at the moment I don't think it's the captaincy which is losing us matches. The thing losing us matches is our rubbish bowling.

    It's very possible that when the WC starts that is exactly the strategy which is employed.

    Hassan to open the innings along with Amir and Imad. Amir and Imad keep things tight while Hassan looks for wickets.

    Shadab and Hafeez introduced in the middle overs. Again - here Hafeez looks to keep things tight and Shadab looks to pick up wickets.

    Amir, Hassan and Wahab look to finish things off at the back end of the innings when hopefully reverse swing comes into play.

    In theory the above all sounds great and is a very obvious strategy. However, the issue arises when the bowlers are unable to bow the above strategies and don't bowl to a plan. There have simply been too many lose deliveries from all our bowlers in my opinion. There's been at least 1 or 2 hit me ball in each over and that is the problem.

    That's why it was seeming impossible to restrict England for under 350 and we will suffer the same fate against the likes of NZ, India and Aus until or unless our bowlers get their act together.

    Coming up with a plan and a strategy is the easy part. Anyone can do that. Even a couple of fans sitting on an online forum.

    It's implementing the plan which is the hard part and that is what our bowlers are struggling at moment.

    I strongly believe if our bowlers look to go back to the basics - bowl line and length, keep it diciplined, make the batsmen play and maybe throw in a bit of variation - they will go a long way. That's exactly what worked for our pace bowlers in the CT2017 competition as well. Just diciplined consistent bowling.

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    On a serious really hoping that Pakistan learn from their mistakes & do well in the worldcup. The matches should be well fought & interesting at the end of the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TalhaSyed View Post
    Their are definitely areas of Sarfraz's captaincy which he needs to develop and we've been saying that for a while. However, at the moment I don't think it's the captaincy which is losing us matches. The thing losing us matches is our rubbish bowling.

    It's very possible that when the WC starts that is exactly the strategy which is employed.

    Hassan to open the innings along with Amir and Imad. Amir and Imad keep things tight while Hassan looks for wickets.

    Shadab and Hafeez introduced in the middle overs. Again - here Hafeez looks to keep things tight and Shadab looks to pick up wickets.

    Amir, Hassan and Wahab look to finish things off at the back end of the innings when hopefully reverse swing comes into play.

    In theory the above all sounds great and is a very obvious strategy. However, the issue arises when the bowlers are unable to bow the above strategies and don't bowl to a plan. There have simply been too many lose deliveries from all our bowlers in my opinion. There's been at least 1 or 2 hit me ball in each over and that is the problem.

    That's why it was seeming impossible to restrict England for under 350 and we will suffer the same fate against the likes of NZ, India and Aus until or unless our bowlers get their act together.

    Coming up with a plan and a strategy is the easy part. Anyone can do that. Even a couple of fans sitting on an online forum.

    It's implementing the plan which is the hard part and that is what our bowlers are struggling at moment.

    I strongly believe if our bowlers look to go back to the basics - bowl line and length, keep it diciplined, make the batsmen play and maybe throw in a bit of variation - they will go a long way. That's exactly what worked for our pace bowlers in the CT2017 competition as well. Just diciplined consistent bowling.
    This is where the bowling coach has to earn his keep. Why has the speeds of the likes of Amir, Hasan, Shaheen gone down in the last 3 years? Why has Amir lost his swing under his watch? What has the bowling coach done to try and fix the bowling? He has been hired to improve the team's bowling, he is not earning his salary atm

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    In a way, this may be a good thing. It is good to be underdogs and have no expectation to deal with. Given the talent of the Pakistan team, they are capable of surprising anyone come the real World Cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saeed5646 View Post
    Not talking about the matches which is non official and zero value in cricket book .Worldcup matches is real priority
    Really? I hope that you don't talk about us if we lose practice match against you on Sunday

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain caveman View Post
    Did anyone notice that safaraz was the only batsman who was picking rashid khan? Not even hafeez or malik were picking him. Safaraz needs to take more reponsibilty, he could have easily batted to the end of the innings and we could have scored close to 300, but he got too aggressive and got himself out
    Ive seen him do this too many times now!.
    Really? Six odd deliveries he faced he was out twice

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    Honestly as opstimisic as I am this one really stings. How do you lose to a minnow man.

    We need to step it up before May 31st or we are going to have a Lahore Qalandars type tournament.


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    Chill folks.

    Just a warm-up game.

    Even I'm not worried. No need to slit wrists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saeed5646 View Post
    as in urdu said.

    begani shadi mein abdullah deewana

    thanks for you kind wishes .See you soon hopefully your big brother won,t mind and whine when you guys get it back on face
    But don't forget where it all started , that is you and some other Pakistan fans proclaiming how easy the warm ups are and how Afghanistan and or Bangladesh are no match, this is the result of all that arrogance. Pakistan might beat Bangladesh who knows but this match vs Afghanistan should have taught a lesson to be humble. Be thankful it was only a warm up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bangladesh_Fan View Post
    But don't forget where it all started , that is you and some other Pakistan fans proclaiming how easy the warm ups are and how Afghanistan and or Bangladesh are no match, this is the result of all that arrogance. Pakistan might beat Bangladesh who knows but this match vs Afghanistan should have taught a lesson to be humble. Be thankful it was only a warm up
    Not the same old story .Common on Pakistan is not the lonely team playing worldcup it will be fun to watch breaking heart and excuses.As i said Afghanistan is rising team they will replace bd soon no need for overjoyed for other team worry about your team this is last chance to prove themselves.the next icc event is t20 worldcup 2020 which bd have to play qualifiers and there is every chance they miss on that so pray hard for this worldcup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRSN View Post
    Really? Six odd deliveries he faced he was out twice
    I understand what you are saying and the reason for what you are saying is safi is too aggressive. He definetly was picking rashid, he was picking his googly and his legbreak fron rashids hand and was getting into position to play his shots before the ball pitched. Malik and hafeez were trying to pick rashid from when the ball pitched, so had less time tp play/ defend the ball. Safi needs to just slow done a little and not do everything at 100mph, and be more selctive with his shot choice.if he does that, we could win alot more games.

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    Congrats Afghanistan. I got many Afghan friends at work. I give life to work to quite a few Afgans. One was over really happy yesterday!

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    Who cares about Warm Up matches.

    They don't mean a thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    This is where the bowling coach has to earn his keep. Why has the speeds of the likes of Amir, Hasan, Shaheen gone down in the last 3 years? Why has Amir lost his swing under his watch? What has the bowling coach done to try and fix the bowling? He has been hired to improve the team's bowling, he is not earning his salary atm
    I get what you are saying, however, fundamentally I think we disagree on the role of a coach of an international team.

    Allow me to demonstrate.

    What do you think Amir & co. need to do to get their speed up and get more swing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Afhan Ali View Post
    Afg will win it with 3 wickets in hand
    That was one hell of a prediction ,wowwww!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TalhaSyed View Post
    I get what you are saying, however, fundamentally I think we disagree on the role of a coach of an international team.

    Allow me to demonstrate.

    What do you think Amir & co. need to do to get their speed up and get more swing?
    I think the workload of the bowlers should have been managed in such a way where whenever they are selected to play for Pakistan, they can all operate at their highest optimal speeds i.e. 140 km/hr plus. Amir has bowled a lot of overs from 2016 to now and the end result has shown where his bowling has lost its bite and pace.

    If there are technical flaws then the players rectify them in the nets and in domestic cricket but are they receiving the right guidance on these technical flaws in the first place from competent coaches?

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    Spin performance has gone down since mickey... Is it due to not giving Spinners chance or lack of Spinners idk

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    It may have only been a warm-up match but nobody told Afghanistan that.

    Massive underdogs heading into their pre-World Cup clash against Pakistan in Bristol, the Afghanis upset their higher-ranked opponent to secure a three-wicket win with two balls remaining.

    And while most teams would be happy to go through the motions in tuning up for cricket’s showpiece event, Afghanistan came out all guns blazing — with the bat and in the sledging department. After restricting Pakistan to 262, the minnows wasted no time setting an aggressive tone in their reply.

    At 0/14 after three overs, opener Hazratullah Zazai let loose and fast bowler Shaheen Afridi was his hapless victim. Zazai clattered the left-arm quick through the leg side for three consecutive boundaries but the paceman decided to chirp up when he eventually got one past the batsman as Zazai missed a pull shot.

    Afridi continued his follow-through all the way down the wicket, launching a verbal barrage the Afghanistan star’s way. But when you’ve been smoked for three fours in a row, you’re better off keeping your mouth shut and focusing on your bowling. At least, that’s what Zazai thought.

    As Afridi’s mouth worked overtime, Zazai simply put his head down, raised his right arm and flicked his wrist, telling the bowler to go back to his mark and stop wasting his breath. Afridi continued mouthing off as he retreated but Zazai was having none of it, putting the leather-flinger in his place.

    In commentary, ex-Australian captain Michael Clarke burst out laughing as he said: “A few words as well, just letting him know. The batsman telling him to go back and bowl.”

    Former New Zealand seamer Simon Doull was even more impressed, adding: “I love that, I love that.

    “See, you couldn’t have helped yourself Michael, you would have had a chip back, but that is the best response ever.”

    Clarke responded by saying: “Yeah that’s a good response from the batsman. Go back and bowl another one.”

    But Zazai wasn’t done there. He crashed another four through the on side and finished by spanking Afridi wide of mid off for his fifth boundary of the over. And how’d he celebrate? Yep, you guessed it. Another dismissive wave of the hand to remind the bowler who was in charge.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cricket_cfa View Post
    Spin performance has gone down since mickey... Is it due to not giving Spinners chance or lack of Spinners idk
    Clearly not giving enough chances. Inzamam selected Asghar and Bilal Asif in the squad for UAE. Mickey Arthur made the decision not to play them. Everyone dismissed Bilal Asif as a bum, but he picked up 5 wicket hauls against Australia and then New Zealand. You will not groom any spinner without giving them chances

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    I think the workload of the bowlers should have been managed in such a way where whenever they are selected to play for Pakistan, they can all operate at their highest optimal speeds i.e. 140 km/hr plus. Amir has bowled a lot of overs from 2016 to now and the end result has shown where his bowling has lost its bite and pace.

    If there are technical flaws then the players rectify them in the nets and in domestic cricket but are they receiving the right guidance on these technical flaws in the first place from competent coaches?
    I agree 100% that the international coaches are their to plan strategy and not help teach the players how to play cricket.

    However, I do not think the strategy or the work load is the problem. I think it's simply the bowlers not sticking to their plans and dishing up too many freebies. They simply aren't fit enough to maintain the high pace.

    You mentioned work load. Here are fast bowlers who have played the most games over the last 2 years:

    Screenshot_20190525-222810__01.jpg

    Amir - in fact all the Pakistani bowlers bar Hassan - are way down that list, yet their are players who have played more cricket than them and are still able to maintain their pace.

    I really think it's the players who need to take responsibility for the poor results and the blame can't be passed onto the management.

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    Can’t believe people are looking so much into this warm up game Afghanistan ain’t gonna do jack at the World Cup

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mean&Green View Post
    Can’t believe people are looking so much into this warm up game Afghanistan ain’t gonna do jack at the World Cup
    Don’t fool yourself by belittling the importance of that match. Pakistan are desperate for win, never in our history we have lost so much that losing became a habit


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    Quote Originally Posted by hur rizvi View Post
    Don’t fool yourself by belittling the importance of that match. Pakistan are desperate for win, never in our history we have lost so much that losing became a habit
    How many times??? Jeez.
    We had a 12 match losing streak in 1987.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronaldo7 View Post
    How many times??? Jeez.
    We had a 12 match losing streak in 1987.
    Itís going to be broken soon

    Itís terrible team with no confidence at all

    Point is that you canít belittle the importance of warm up when Pakistan are so desperate to win
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    No longer the novices of international cricket, Afghanistan have all grown up - but all-rounder Mohammad Nabi knows that with maturity comes expectation.

    Afghanistan are on the cusp of their second ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup and open up against holders Australia at the County Ground in Bristol next Sunday.

    Four years ago, they claimed one win against Scotland and suffered five defeats en route to a pool stage exit – but since then they have beaten Sri Lanka and Bangladesh.

    In leg-spinner Rashid Khan, they possess the world’s No.1 ranked T20 bowler while they beat Pakistan in their opening warm-up game by three wickets on Friday.

    Although outsiders to reach the knock-out stages here, Afghanistan are expected to be competitive and Nabi admits the eyes of 35 million people back home are burning with anticipation.

    “If you see from 2015 to now, the team is totally different for Afghanistan. The team has matured and we play so much more international cricket,” he said.

    “The expectation is bigger from back home because we are winning more consistently against the likes of Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Pakistan.

    “That raises the chances of winning games here. The preparations have been perfect from us. We have been from Chennai to Bangalore to South Africa and then Ireland so we feel ready.

    “Two or three players were in the IPL so have that experience against the top players regularly and then we beat Pakistan in the warm-up.

    “We aren’t here to lose, we are here to win as many games as we can.”

    To be successful, Afghanistan will rely heavily on 20-year-old Khan and India captain Virat Kohli, the number one ranked ODI batsman, has openly spoken about how hard he finds it to pick the 20-year-old.

    But in Nabi, the country’s second leading wicket-taker, and Mujeeb Ur Rahman – the first player born in the 21st century to play international cricket – they have plenty more up their sleeve.

    On Sunday, the country will stop to watch their match against Australia and Nabi, 34, is desperate to keep the feelgood factor going.

    “Cricket is the number one sport in Afghanistan. Nothing happens when the national team is playing. Everyone stops, and they follow us at one country,” he added.

    “Our win against Pakistan was just a warm-up game and yet the whole country celebrated it because it was our first win against them.

    “It was so important. Morale is high in the camp and we are confident. Every single game is important for us because we will have 35 million people watching. If we win, they are happy.

    “And if they are happy, we want to win more and make them even happier. Because when that happens, there is no bad news in Afghanistan. Everyone is just happy.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    No longer the novices of international cricket, Afghanistan have all grown up - but all-rounder Mohammad Nabi knows that with maturity comes expectation.

    Afghanistan are on the cusp of their second ICC Men’s Cricket World Cup and open up against holders Australia at the County Ground in Bristol next Sunday.

    Four years ago, they claimed one win against Scotland and suffered five defeats en route to a pool stage exit – but since then they have beaten Sri Lanka and Bangladesh.

    In leg-spinner Rashid Khan, they possess the world’s No.1 ranked T20 bowler while they beat Pakistan in their opening warm-up game by three wickets on Friday.

    Although outsiders to reach the knock-out stages here, Afghanistan are expected to be competitive and Nabi admits the eyes of 35 million people back home are burning with anticipation.

    “If you see from 2015 to now, the team is totally different for Afghanistan. The team has matured and we play so much more international cricket,” he said.

    “The expectation is bigger from back home because we are winning more consistently against the likes of Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and Pakistan.

    “That raises the chances of winning games here. The preparations have been perfect from us. We have been from Chennai to Bangalore to South Africa and then Ireland so we feel ready.

    “Two or three players were in the IPL so have that experience against the top players regularly and then we beat Pakistan in the warm-up.

    “We aren’t here to lose, we are here to win as many games as we can.”

    To be successful, Afghanistan will rely heavily on 20-year-old Khan and India captain Virat Kohli, the number one ranked ODI batsman, has openly spoken about how hard he finds it to pick the 20-year-old.

    But in Nabi, the country’s second leading wicket-taker, and Mujeeb Ur Rahman – the first player born in the 21st century to play international cricket – they have plenty more up their sleeve.

    On Sunday, the country will stop to watch their match against Australia and Nabi, 34, is desperate to keep the feelgood factor going.

    “Cricket is the number one sport in Afghanistan. Nothing happens when the national team is playing. Everyone stops, and they follow us at one country,” he added.

    “Our win against Pakistan was just a warm-up game and yet the whole country celebrated it because it was our first win against them.

    “It was so important. Morale is high in the camp and we are confident. Every single game is important for us because we will have 35 million people watching. If we win, they are happy.

    “And if they are happy, we want to win more and make them even happier. Because when that happens, there is no bad news in Afghanistan. Everyone is just happy.”
    What does he mean by we are winning more consistently against pak??
    This is your maiden (though not recorded) victory over pak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronaldo7 View Post
    What does he mean by we are winning more consistently against pak??
    This is your maiden (though not recorded) victory over pak.
    Afghanistan has NEVER won against pakistan(3 -0 ). people are getting cnfused here. This game did not have odi status i.e. it was not an international match but a practice match akin to a training exercise for the preparation of the actual wc games. For this reason safi was not bothered about the result of the game but to get shaheen and shadab back into form. If it was a proper registered int match then safi would not have persisted with shaheen, who was getting belted around the ground and wouldnt have bowled shadab in the 49th over. Instead he would have bowled amir(economy 4.5) and hafeez(economy3.0), and pakistan would have easily won the match by 30+ runs! People need to see the bigger picture !
    i undestand afghan fans not understanding this because they have not played in many wc but pak fans should know better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain caveman View Post
    Afghanistan has NEVER won against pakistan(3 -0 ). people are getting cnfused here. This game did not have odi status i.e. it was not an international match but a practice match akin to a training exercise for the preparation of the actual wc games. For this reason safi was not bothered about the result of the game but to get shaheen and shadab back into form. If it was a proper registered int match then safi would not have persisted with shaheen, who was getting belted around the ground and wouldnt have bowled shadab in the 49th over. Instead he would have bowled amir(economy 4.5) and hafeez(economy3.0), and pakistan would have easily won the match by 30+ runs! People need to see the bigger picture !
    i undestand afghan fans not understanding this because they have not played in many wc but pak fans should know better!
    You are in no position to tell other people what to post or know better.

    Your stupid comments before the match were all proved wrong.

    Here is a list for you to read your own stupidity:

    Here are your predictions
    Quote Originally Posted by Captain caveman View Post
    Score predictions:

    If pak bats first-
    Pak 350 for 6
    Afghans 160 all out

    If pak bats second-
    Afghans 220 all out
    Pak 221 for 3 in 35 overs
    Here is your genius predicting ground conditions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain caveman View Post

    This is the world cup in england. It is not the ipl were i hear rashid is a superstar. Ipl is of a high standard , though i dont actually watch it, but its played on spin friendly pitches. Friday, they wont be any spin in the pitch or from the kookaburra ball and pakistan will rip this fake ahmed shezad lookalike to shreds.safaraz, malik and hafeez are masters of playing spin bowling, but even hasan ali, wahab and amir will give this guy a spanking with their bats..
    Rashid Khan had match figures of 2/29

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain caveman View Post
    Rashid khan this, rashid khan that. Rashid khan has taken wickets in ipl and bbl on flat tracks blah blah blah....
    This is an odi tornament and not some joke t20 tourney mate. Let me explain the difference to you , as you obviously dont know. In t20 batters are attacking every delivery and this helps bowlers to take wickets. In odis, as i told you before, batsman can be more selective, take singles from the good balls and punish the bad balls. Yes spinners will be important against SENA teams, cos if it only slightly spins there in trouble. Wont spin enough to trouble asian teams. What you need are 90mph bowling bouncers at batsman heads and 90 mph yorkers at batsman toes. It only medium fast bowlers(80 - 87mph) who are gonna get whacked around the ground. Have you got any 90mph bowlers? Oh i forgot you dont need any fast bowlers because you have rashid khan(lol)!
    More stupidity
    Quote Originally Posted by Captain caveman View Post
    2 against 1 typical!
    Imad wasim + shadab khan vs rashid + mujeeb.
    I keep our pak pair thank you very much.
    You guys going crazy over a couple of
    T20 bowlers. We have left better bowlers back home - umer khan, M.asghar, usama mir, zafar gohar etc. We dont require any afghan players in our team. Unlike you guys who require pak players in your team( M shazad)!


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    Quote Originally Posted by thelandofthebravepeople View Post
    You are in no position to tell other people what to post or know better.

    Your stupid comments before the match were all proved wrong.

    Here is a list for you to read your own stupidity:

    Here are your predictions


    Here is your genius predicting ground conditions.



    Rashid Khan had match figures of 2/29



    More stupidity
    Mate i was just bantering and did not mean to offend anyone. Apologises if you were offended. I also got in trouble for those posts! Anyway, i dont take cricket too seriously, as there is more important things in the world such as poverty, famine, disease etc. Cricket is just a bit of fun!

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    It was a good win for Afghanistan, they bowled well and batted with spirit and a sense of adventure. I just hope Pakistan aren't out of the competition when the real match comes around, would take away some of the spice if it is a dead rubber.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    It was a good win for Afghanistan, they bowled well and batted with spirit and a sense of adventure. I just hope Pakistan aren't out of the competition when the real match comes around, would take away some of the spice if it is a dead rubber.
    No offence to anyone, but i genuinely believe that pak could have won the game against afghans if they wanted to but that was not their main objective. There main objective was to get shaheen and shadab into form for the actual wc matches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain caveman View Post
    No offence to anyone, but i genuinely believe that pak could have won the game against afghans if they wanted to but that was not their main objective. There main objective was to get shaheen and shadab into form for the actual wc matches.
    I don't believe that, I think they were trying to win it, just left themselves down by not batting out the overs, then were surprised by Afghanistan batsmen aggression in the chase. I think Pakistan will beat them in the game proper, but they will have to perform to do it. Afghan spinners are no mugs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    I don't believe that, I think they were trying to win it, just left themselves down by not batting out the overs, then were surprised by Afghanistan batsmen aggression in the chase. I think Pakistan will beat them in the game proper, but they will have to perform to do it. Afghan spinners are no mugs.
    Not batting the full 50 overs was poor. Rashid khan bowled beautifully and was a threat to everyone except safi who was picking him but safi as usual goes ott and got himself out. But hes the crutch of the matter - amir had an ecomoy of 4.5 and hafeez had an economy of 3 and both had plenty of overs left that safi didnt use. Instead safi kept bowling shaheen, who was getting carted around the ground and shadab, who was coming back from illness. If this was a real match safi would have bowl hafeez and amirs full quotas and pakistan would have comfortably won the game.


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