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    The aim should now be to stay out of the relegation zone - the bottom 3.



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    England have 4 games in hand
    They will beat SRL and get to 10 points
    Next 3 games vs NZ ,IND and Aus
    If they lose all 3 and Pakistan win 4 , Pakistan qualifies

    Australia have 4 games also
    They will beat BNG and get to 10 points
    Next 3 game vs SA,ENg and NZ if they lose these
    Pakistan wins 4 , Pakistan qualifies

    NZ to lose all 4 and Pakistan to win 4 to qualify

    With India no chance they have pretty easy wins coming on the way


    Looks like Australia or England can be only spots which we have chance with but very unlikely
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cric_lover4487 View Post
    I am afraid buddy Pakistan missed the bus. Even if they win 4 matches and somehow get equal points as NZ/WI/Bang they would lag behind in net run rate. I think Pakistan will regret not scoring 300 in chase vs India.
    Quote Originally Posted by Smbhayi View Post
    for Pak, SA and WI to have any chance, they need to win all remaining games also one of the top 4 need to loss all their remaining games which is highly unlikely..
    This was expected but it still hurts especially because it's held in England, which has during pre and post 2000 been a happy hunting ground for Pakistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    I wonder what is the best case scenario for Pakistan?

    Obviously we need to win all our remaining games which is no easy task, but who do we need to win and lose for our sake? Will a couple of opposition matches being washed out help our cause? What happens if a couple of Indian/Australia/English/NZ games are washed out?
    England have 8 points at the moment and these are the upcoming fixtures:

    Versus Sri Lanka - win

    Versus Australia - lose/washout

    Versus India - lose

    Versus New Zealand - lose

    If England wins one and loses three they will have 10 points.

    If England wins one, loses two and has one washout they will have 11 points.

    Australia have also 8 points at the moment and these are the upcoming matches:

    Versus Bangladesh - lose

    Versus England - lose/washout

    Versus New Zealand - lose

    Versus South Africa - win

    If Australia wins one and loses all the remaining matches they will have 10 points.

    If Australia wins two and loses two they will have 12 points which will be enough for them.

    So ideally what we should hope is that England vs Australia match gets washed out which means both will have 11 points if they win 1/4 matches and then it will all depend on the NRR.

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    Iím afraid Pakistanís WC dream is over.

    These scenarios are very unlikely to happen.

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    This New Zealand victory has put a massive dent in Pakistan's chances now.

    We now have to hope Australia, India and England lose as many matches as possible now.

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    I am confused.

    We are crazily asking England, Aus, NZ etc to lose.

    But why does everyone believe Pakistan will win 4 on the trot ?

    I find this optimism quite quite confusing.


    And I get so high.. And I just can't feel it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Bassim View Post
    I am confused.

    We are crazily asking England, Aus, NZ etc to lose.

    But why does everyone believe Pakistan will win 4 on the trot ?

    I find this optimism quite quite confusing.
    Because its Pakistan

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    Seriously why the hell did we lose to WI?

    It effed up our campaign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Bassim View Post
    I am confused.

    We are crazily asking England, Aus, NZ etc to lose.

    But why does everyone believe Pakistan will win 4 on the trot ?

    I find this optimism quite quite confusing.
    It's good to have a positive mindset. Why are you spreading negativity against Pakistan team ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rafa View Post
    It's good to have a positive mindset. Why are you spreading negativity against Pakistan team ?
    I am not spreading anything.

    Okay lets hear it.

    Why do u think Pakistan will beat SA, NZ and Bangladesh?

    I am leaving out AFG because I dont want to insult our team by believing they could lose to AFG.


    And I get so high.. And I just can't feel it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Bassim View Post
    I am not spreading anything.

    Okay lets hear it.

    Why do u think Pakistan will beat SA, NZ and Bangladesh?

    I am leaving out AFG because I dont want to insult our team by believing they could lose to AFG.
    Because we beat England who are comfortably the best team in this tournament, at home and number 1 in the world.

    We also dominated Aus for 50% of the game so could have won that.


    SA,NZ and Bangladesh are nowhere near as good as the Aus,Eng or India. Why would we not be expecting a win?

    We could lose but we go off favourites against Sa,BD and should turn over NZ. Stop being so pessmistic and focus on the task at hand please

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    We have 4 games to go.

    This NZ victory is a massive setback for us.

    We have to win all 4. One loss and we are out. And we must hope that Australia, India and England drop points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasimjunior View Post
    Because we beat England who are comfortably the best team in this tournament, at home and number 1 in the world.

    We also dominated Aus for 50% of the game so could have won that.


    SA,NZ and Bangladesh are nowhere near as good as the Aus,Eng or India. Why would we not be expecting a win?

    We could lose but we go off favourites against Sa,BD and should turn over NZ. Stop being so pessmistic and focus on the task at hand please
    Okay.

    We are the best because we beat England, dominated Australia, rain gods stopped us from winning against Lanka, had a shocker against Windies and were under too much pressure against India.

    After losing 3 games and having one washout, we will be favorites against South Africa, should beat NZ (who havent lost a game yet in the WC) and should also beat Bangladesh (who thrashed the same WI by hitting 320 runs in 41 odd overs while we were 100 all out).

    So you can understand why I am not jumping up with joy at the supposed positvity or even finding any.

    However, if you wanna dream till 23rd or maybe a bit later till NZ, sure why not.


    And I get so high.. And I just can't feel it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Bassim View Post
    Okay.

    We are the best because we beat England, dominated Australia, rain gods stopped us from winning against Lanka, had a shocker against Windies and were under too much pressure against India.

    After losing 3 games and having one washout, we will be favorites against South Africa, should beat NZ (who havent lost a game yet in the WC) and should also beat Bangladesh (who thrashed the same WI by hitting 320 runs in 41 odd overs while we were 100 all out).

    So you can understand why I am not jumping up with joy at the supposed positvity or even finding any.

    However, if you wanna dream till 23rd or maybe a bit later till NZ, sure why not.
    In a WC you will get this. People will keep hoping till the last moment. Thats part of supporting a team.

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    Boys are coming home (empty handed ).

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    Realistically the bottom 5 are all out.

    SL are a very very poor side who would have two points but for rain. 0% chance.
    SA - 6 games, 3 points. Out. 0% chance.
    Afghanistan are out 0% chance.

    3 teams with absolutely no chance.

    Pakistan come next. 3 points from five games, would need to beat BD (who are in far better form), NZ (a better side) Afghanistan (who will be very up for that game and Pak hate being favourites) and SA. Not only do they need the four wins, which in itself is very unlikely if we're being realistic, and to avoid rain, which is entirely luck, even then it may not be enough considering the NRR is awful and NZ/Eng/Aus/Ind need only 2, 3,3 and 4 points respectively, 4 or 5 games. 1% chance is probably being generous.

    Bangladesh have a half decent shot in that if they win 3 of their final 4 they have a solid shot. That they lost to NZ and England already will seriously hurt them though. Basically if they lose tomorrow, they are also almost certainly out.

    Cant see anyone breaking into the Top 4. NZ were the most likely to miss out considering their remaining games but they've beaten all the non Big 3 sides bar Pakistan who they've left to play, and got a nice point vs India.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Donal Cozzie View Post
    Realistically the bottom 5 are all out.

    SL are a very very poor side who would have two points but for rain. 0% chance.
    SA - 6 games, 3 points. Out. 0% chance.
    Afghanistan are out 0% chance.

    3 teams with absolutely no chance.

    Pakistan come next. 3 points from five games, would need to beat BD (who are in far better form), NZ (a better side) Afghanistan (who will be very up for that game and Pak hate being favourites) and SA. Not only do they need the four wins, which in itself is very unlikely if we're being realistic, and to avoid rain, which is entirely luck, even then it may not be enough considering the NRR is awful and NZ/Eng/Aus/Ind need only 2, 3,3 and 4 points respectively, 4 or 5 games. 1% chance is probably being generous.

    Bangladesh have a half decent shot in that if they win 3 of their final 4 they have a solid shot. That they lost to NZ and England already will seriously hurt them though. Basically if they lose tomorrow, they are also almost certainly out.

    Cant see anyone breaking into the Top 4. NZ were the most likely to miss out considering their remaining games but they've beaten all the non Big 3 sides bar Pakistan who they've left to play, and got a nice point vs India.
    I can see teams stealing and breaking into top 4 spots. You being an Ireland fan plays a big factor in your opinion though.

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    SL win against Eng, NZ win against WI, Aus win against NZ, we come third, kill Australia in the semis and Hafeez retires post World Cup after scoring a winning tonne in the final against India

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    Alternatively Eng win against SL and WI win against NZ, then we kill India in the semis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdulm123 View Post
    I can see teams stealing and breaking into top 4 spots. You being an Ireland fan plays a big factor in your opinion though.
    Not really. I dunno why people think I'm really biased. My beef with the format is obvious but from judging the tournament as a whole I try to be as fair as possible. If the 10 team format provided a cracker I'd still maintain its awful but I'd also admit its been entertaining. Its not though, there have been exactly as many hammerings as many others feared (Despite the guff about quality cricket only being said) and rain has had a big impact.

    We can all agree SL/SA and Afg are out. That leaves BD and Pak. BD have a proper shot but thats entirely dependent on tomorrow, they win they blow the top 4 wide open, they lose the only side in touching distance falls even further behind.

    Pakistan have a minute chance. Need to win every single game, which they sure as hell havent looked like doing, and hope other results go their favour and for upsets to occur, and not a single one has yet, aside maybe from Pak vs Eng.

    The funny thing is, had they had it a 10 team WC but two groups of 5 we'd be in store for an absolutely cracking finish. Picture the top two make the semis, you could have

    NZ
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    Pak
    WI
    SL

    Eng
    Aus
    Ban
    SA
    Afg

    Under current conditions, if we ignore games vs non group members that have taken place, you'd have

    NZ - 3 from 2 games
    India - 3 from 2 games
    WI - 2 from 1
    Pak - 1 from 2
    SL - 1 from 1

    Eng 6 from 3 games
    Aus - 2 from 1 game
    SA - 2 from 3 games
    BD - 2 from 2 games
    Afg - 0 from 3 games

    That would set us up for some cracking group games. Aus vs BD tomorrow would have huge ramifications for 2nd spot. SA would still have an outside chance, Afg, despite being out, could wreck BD's bid for 2nd and thus that game remains vital.

    In the first group, every side can still realistically qualify. Every game wide open. The format, although it still has allllll the issues for cricket globally that've said over and over, still at the very least is great from an entertainment perspective.

    The real tragedy (and funny thing) about the 10 team format is that the ICC cant even do it in a way that entertains fans Do the above format and, I'll freely say right now, you have a cracking competition on your hands! Wont ever happen though because entertainment and excitement are bottom of the ICC's demands, All that matters is 1) Ind vs Pak (which still happens in my alternate format) and b) India playing as many games as humanely possible, hence the boredom of the next two weeks heading our way.

    10 team WC is awful but I admit freely it could be exceptionally entertaining if done right. I'd actually be interested in watching it even without my team, especially since its cut throat nature is in line with the qualifier.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Bassim View Post
    I am confused.

    We are crazily asking England, Aus, NZ etc to lose.

    But why does everyone believe Pakistan will win 4 on the trot ?

    I find this optimism quite quite confusing.
    Welcome to Pakistan Passion, are you new to this site?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donal Cozzie View Post
    Not really. I dunno why people think I'm really biased. My beef with the format is obvious but from judging the tournament as a whole I try to be as fair as possible. If the 10 team format provided a cracker I'd still maintain its awful but I'd also admit its been entertaining. Its not though, there have been exactly as many hammerings as many others feared (Despite the guff about quality cricket only being said) and rain has had a big impact.

    We can all agree SL/SA and Afg are out. That leaves BD and Pak. BD have a proper shot but thats entirely dependent on tomorrow, they win they blow the top 4 wide open, they lose the only side in touching distance falls even further behind.

    Pakistan have a minute chance. Need to win every single game, which they sure as hell havent looked like doing, and hope other results go their favour and for upsets to occur, and not a single one has yet, aside maybe from Pak vs Eng.

    The funny thing is, had they had it a 10 team WC but two groups of 5 we'd be in store for an absolutely cracking finish. Picture the top two make the semis, you could have

    NZ
    India
    Pak
    WI
    SL

    Eng
    Aus
    Ban
    SA
    Afg

    Under current conditions, if we ignore games vs non group members that have taken place, you'd have

    NZ - 3 from 2 games
    India - 3 from 2 games
    WI - 2 from 1
    Pak - 1 from 2
    SL - 1 from 1

    Eng 6 from 3 games
    Aus - 2 from 1 game
    SA - 2 from 3 games
    BD - 2 from 2 games
    Afg - 0 from 3 games

    That would set us up for some cracking group games. Aus vs BD tomorrow would have huge ramifications for 2nd spot. SA would still have an outside chance, Afg, despite being out, could wreck BD's bid for 2nd and thus that game remains vital.

    In the first group, every side can still realistically qualify. Every game wide open. The format, although it still has allllll the issues for cricket globally that've said over and over, still at the very least is great from an entertainment perspective.

    The real tragedy (and funny thing) about the 10 team format is that the ICC cant even do it in a way that entertains fans Do the above format and, I'll freely say right now, you have a cracking competition on your hands! Wont ever happen though because entertainment and excitement are bottom of the ICC's demands, All that matters is 1) Ind vs Pak (which still happens in my alternate format) and b) India playing as many games as humanely possible, hence the boredom of the next two weeks heading our way.

    10 team WC is awful but I admit freely it could be exceptionally entertaining if done right. I'd actually be interested in watching it even without my team, especially since its cut throat nature is in line with the qualifier.
    There are only 7 or 8 good teams in World Cricket.

    All of these deserve to play each other to determine the true winner.

    Groups are nonsense if you only have 10 teams.

    This format is awesome.

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    If AUS looses tomorrow, does that give PAK a lifeline?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chokli View Post
    There are only 7 or 8 good teams in World Cricket.

    All of these deserve to play each other to determine the true winner.

    Groups are nonsense if you only have 10 teams.

    This format is awesome.
    Yeah they just needed to add that qualifier and eliminator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by light View Post
    If AUS looses tomorrow, does that give PAK a lifeline?
    gives the whole table a life time (excluding afg and sa)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDfanforever View Post
    Yeah they just needed to add that qualifier and eliminator.
    Like IPL? Oh hell naw

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdulm123 View Post
    gives the whole table a life time (excluding afg and sa)
    Well in that case BD needs to win it tomorrow. If not i am assuming top 4 will be solidified regardless of the outcomes from rest o the matches

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mueez View Post
    England have 8 points at the moment and these are the upcoming fixtures:

    Versus Sri Lanka - win

    Versus Australia - lose/washout

    Versus India - lose

    Versus New Zealand - lose

    If England wins one and loses three they will have 10 points.

    If England wins one, loses two and has one washout they will have 11 points.

    Australia have also 8 points at the moment and these are the upcoming matches:

    Versus Bangladesh - lose

    Versus England - lose/washout

    Versus New Zealand - lose

    Versus South Africa - win

    If Australia wins one and loses all the remaining matches they will have 10 points.

    If Australia wins two and loses two they will have 12 points which will be enough for them.

    So ideally what we should hope is that England vs Australia match gets washed out which means both will have 11 points if they win 1/4 matches and then it will all depend on the NRR.
    A washout would be horrible for Pakistan because our net run rate is in shambles and improving it will be very difficult given that our primary objective is already near-impossible (win out all games). Ideally we would want zero washouts between the teams we are trying to overtake. The three games between Australia, England and New Zealand should ideally result in 2 wins for 1 team. If they share games between them (i.e. they beat each other) - the semifinalists are as good as decided! What could work for example is that England beats both Aus/NZ and then the loser of the Aus/NZ game also gets upset (i.e. Aus by Ban/SA and NZ by WI).

    For England to drop, they would have to lose to Aus/NZ/IND (no washouts) but I just don't see that happening! It's more likely that Aus would lose to Eng/NZ than ENG losing to the other 2 in my opinion.
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    Am glad its over. Could not take this torture anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    The aim should now be to stay out of the relegation zone - the bottom 3.
    Saj the best thing that could happen to Pakistan will be to finish 10th. I am thinking in the long run.

    Otherwise we shall continue to have this monkey business in our cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza619 View Post
    Am glad its over. Could not take this torture anymore.
    Not over yet...
    If nz lose their remaining 4 matches and pak win theirs they go through.

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    In race between cat and mouse, the mouse mostly wins and pakistan is definitely not the mouse. #CorneredCats

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronaldo7 View Post
    Not over yet...
    If nz lose their remaining 4 matches and pak win theirs they go through.
    Which is as impossible as Nawaz Shareef becoming PM again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chokli View Post
    There are only 7 or 8 good teams in World Cricket.

    All of these deserve to play each other to determine the true winner.

    Groups are nonsense if you only have 10 teams.

    This format is awesome.
    No, this format would have been awesome if all/most of the 10 teams were more or less equal. Problem is that there is a wide skill gulf between the top 4 teams & the rest. As a result, we are barely halfway through the contest & the 4 semifinalists are more or less decided barring any major fluke upset. I for one would prefer to have more knockouts where teams have even odds to cause an upset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dildilpak View Post
    No, this format would have been awesome if all/most of the 10 teams were more or less equal. Problem is that there is a wide skill gulf between the top 4 teams & the rest. As a result, we are barely halfway through the contest & the 4 semifinalists are more or less decided barring any major fluke upset. I for one would prefer to have more knockouts where teams have even odds to cause an upset.
    Other teams need to step their game up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chokli View Post
    There are only 7 or 8 good teams in World Cricket.

    All of these deserve to play each other to determine the true winner.

    Groups are nonsense if you only have 10 teams.

    This format is awesome.
    No other sport in the planet has this mentality. To be a world champion, regardless of format, progressing through the group, quarter, semi and then final is sufficient to be world champion.

    Its not a problem in any other sport, no reason it should be in cricket. Nobody disputes Australia's titles on this basis. Part of me thinks the only reason its used is to somehow make 1992 WC worth "more" than any before or after it, which is nonsense.


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    It is also used for the ranking system buddy not just crowning a champion. I think ranking will get reset after this WC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza619 View Post
    Which is as impossible as Nawaz Shareef becoming PM again.
    Never say never, both with Nawaz Shareef & Pakistan cricket ��


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    Quote Originally Posted by Donal Cozzie View Post
    No other sport in the planet has this mentality. To be a world champion, regardless of format, progressing through the group, quarter, semi and then final is sufficient to be world champion.

    Its not a problem in any other sport, no reason it should be in cricket. Nobody disputes Australia's titles on this basis. Part of me thinks the only reason its used is to somehow make 1992 WC worth "more" than any before or after it, which is nonsense.
    Cricket is the first for everything. This format is here to stay

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    Only a few hours remain and this will mark the end of Bangladesh, Sri lanka, West Indies, South Africa, Pakistan and Afghanistan. RIP brothers


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashraful_Rox View Post
    Only a few hours remain and this will mark the end of Bangladesh, Sri lanka, West Indies, South Africa, Pakistan and Afghanistan. RIP brothers
    Will catch you tomorrow in match thread. Shakib with another ton?

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    My prediction for table

    1. ENGLAND
    14 points
    7-0-2
    2. INDIA
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    6-1-2
    3. NEW ZEALAND
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    6-1-2
    4. AUSTRALIA
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    6-0-3
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    5. PAKISTAN
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    4-1-4
    6. BANGLADESH
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    3-1-5
    7. SOUTH AFRICA
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    3-1-5
    8. WEST INDIES
    7 points
    3-1-5
    9. SRI LANKA
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    2-2-5
    10. AFGHANISTAN
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    1-0-8


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    Quote Originally Posted by Visaal-E-Yaar View Post
    Will catch you tomorrow in match thread. Shakib with another ton?


    Ofcourse win or lose I am gonna be there I have been cursing my team since 2010

    I dedicate this video to our fans who were there during tougher times, got out for 58, 78 2011 world cup

    Pakistani fans we can do this
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    Man people spending all this time looking into variations, no one is factoring in the fact that we will be losing two more games for sure NZ/BD and all these variations will simply be dirt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdulm123 View Post
    I can see teams stealing and breaking into top 4 spots. You being an Ireland fan plays a big factor in your opinion though.
    Not sure why people keep thinking Pakistan will win their last four games. It will be a comeback of epic proportions if we manage to do that, specially under a defeated Sarfraz right now.

    A wounded South Africa, a confident New Zealand and a fiesty Bangladesh await us. Not sure why fans are so confident.

    Here's to being hopeful since we are fans, but realistically speaking this will be the greatest heist Pakistan would ever have pulled off in their history.

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    I wonder if the Pakistani players will play in a more relaxed frame of mind now that the expectations of qualifying are over? I mean the India game is out of the way as well. What is there to fear now?

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    So there's still some chance for lower ranked teams. And if they had qualifier/eliminator setup for knockout stages, there would've be no dead rubbers. The teams would be aiming for top two places.

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    I guess India, eng,aus, nz are in sf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mueez View Post
    Iím afraid Pakistanís WC dream is over.

    These scenarios are very unlikely to happen.
    Very unlikely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi View Post
    I guess India, eng,aus, nz are in sf.
    Nice guess

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mueez View Post
    I canít see Sri Lanka beating England and India.

    Also NZ losing 4/4 is highly unlikely.

    West Indies and Pakistan have equal chances to go to the semis imo.

    Both teams can get to 11 points if they win all the remaining matches.
    But I am talking technically, what are the possibilities. Right now, all teams are in.

    However, one by one, teams will start dropping out this week. And if results go a certain way, we will only have Eng, India, Aus, NZ and Ban left with a mathematical chance. Bangladesh could be in the game until the last week if they can beat Australia and Afghanistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidilicious View Post
    But I am talking technically, what are the possibilities. Right now, all teams are in.

    However, one by one, teams will start dropping out this week. And if results go a certain way, we will only have Eng, India, Aus, NZ and Ban left with a mathematical chance. Bangladesh could be in the game until the last week if they can beat Australia and Afghanistan.
    Bangladesh lose tonight and they're out. They're not beating Pakistan and India.


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    Don't worry bro. Your other thread allows for rain. Maybe it will save you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    Bangladesh lose tonight and they're out. They're not beating Pakistan and India.
    1. Even if they lose tonight, they are not out mathematically. But yeah, realistically they will be out, as they will need to win all remaining matches and Aus to lose all remaining ones.

    2. Bangladesh have a 40:60 chance of beating Pakistan. If the pitch starts to get drier, Bangladesh's chance will increase. They have better spinners and better batsmen. If the pitch has some seam movement and weather is conducive to swing, then Pakistan will have a slight advantage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asif321 View Post
    England have 4 games in hand
    They will beat SRL and get to 10 points
    Next 3 games vs NZ ,IND and Aus
    If they lose all 3 and Pakistan win 4 , Pakistan qualifies

    Australia have 4 games also
    They will beat BNG and get to 10 points
    Next 3 game vs SA,ENg and NZ if they lose these
    Pakistan wins 4 , Pakistan qualifies

    NZ to lose all 4 and Pakistan to win 4 to qualify

    With India no chance they have pretty easy wins coming on the way


    Looks like Australia or England can be only spots which we have chance with but very unlikely
    We need Bang to beat Aus to shake it up, and WI to beat NZ.
    It's about time we have a few upsets this tournament


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    Quote Originally Posted by Asif321 View Post
    England have 4 games in hand
    They will beat SRL and get to 10 points
    Next 3 games vs NZ ,IND and Aus
    If they lose all 3 and Pakistan win 4 , Pakistan qualifies

    Australia have 4 games also
    They will beat BNG and get to 10 points
    Next 3 game vs SA,ENg and NZ if they lose these
    Pakistan wins 4 , Pakistan qualifies

    NZ to lose all 4 and Pakistan to win 4 to qualify

    With India no chance they have pretty easy wins coming on the way


    Looks like Australia or England can be only spots which we have chance with but very unlikely
    We need Bang to beat Aus to shake it up, and WI to beat NZ.
    It's about time we have a few upsets this tournament.

    The other thing is we need Aus or Eng to lose 3 games.
    The good thing about this is they play their 3rd from last games against eachother, and then their second from last games against India and NZ, so either of England or Aus could be in a must win scenario in the last game.

    I'm still positive 11 points can take you through. So we need to I keep believing and trying to win our games


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidilicious View Post
    1. Even if they lose tonight, they are not out mathematically. But yeah, realistically they will be out, as they will need to win all remaining matches and Aus to lose all remaining ones.

    2. Bangladesh have a 40:60 chance of beating Pakistan. If the pitch starts to get drier, Bangladesh's chance will increase. They have better spinners and better batsmen. If the pitch has some seam movement and weather is conducive to swing, then Pakistan will have a slight advantage.
    They're unlikely to beat Aus and there is zero chance of beating India. If they do win 3 out of 4 they will deserve to be in the Semis.


    Quote Originally Posted by Convict View Post
    Don't worry bro. Your other thread allows for rain. Maybe it will save you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    Bangladesh lose tonight and they're out. They're not beating Pakistan and India.
    We are favorites against Pakistan. I said 6 months ago we are 51-49 favorites against Pakistan. But having seen the world cup so far, I'd say Bangladesh enter as 65-35 favorites. You have to factor that having beaten Pakistan in 4 consecutive ODIs, we don't fear them like we used to. At the same time, with the current political climate in BD, Pakistan is the last team our players would want to lose to.

    If anything has been proven this world cup, it is that BD can beat any team on their day. So they can certainly beat India, unlikely as it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutdown Corner View Post
    We are favorites against Pakistan. I said 6 months ago we are 51-49 favorites against Pakistan. But having seen the world cup so far, I'd say Bangladesh enter as 65-35 favorites. You have to factor that having beaten Pakistan in 4 consecutive ODIs, we don't fear them like we used to. At the same time, with the current political climate in BD, Pakistan is the last team our players would want to lose to.

    If anything has been proven this world cup, it is that BD can beat any team on their day. So they can certainly beat India, unlikely as it is.
    I meant you're not beating both, you may beat Pakistan but you're not going to beat India and you'll have to do that if you're to progress if you lose today.


    Quote Originally Posted by Convict View Post
    Don't worry bro. Your other thread allows for rain. Maybe it will save you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shutdown Corner View Post
    We are favorites against Pakistan. I said 6 months ago we are 51-49 favorites against Pakistan. But having seen the world cup so far, I'd say Bangladesh enter as 65-35 favorites. You have to factor that having beaten Pakistan in 4 consecutive ODIs, we don't fear them like we used to. At the same time, with the current political climate in BD, Pakistan is the last team our players would want to lose to.

    If anything has been proven this world cup, it is that BD can beat any team on their day. So they can certainly beat India, unlikely as it is.
    No you're not favourites. Don't kid yourself mate.
    65-35?
    To pak you mean

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    I wonder if the Pakistani players will play in a more relaxed frame of mind now that the expectations of qualifying are over? I mean the India game is out of the way as well. What is there to fear now?
    These mediocre players have not been exposed to this level of criticism and scrutiny before. They have been pathetic for two years, but people have given them leeway because of the Champions Trophy and the hope that they will deliver in the World Cup.

    Apart from 2-3 players, their futures are on the line and they will be playing for their spots in the remaining matches. You cannot with a relaxed frame of mind under these circumstances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donal Cozzie View Post
    Its not a problem in any other sport, no reason it should be in cricket. Nobody disputes Australia's titles on this basis. Part of me thinks the only reason its used is to somehow make 1992 WC worth "more" than any before or after it, which is nonsense.
    Why would any other country care about making the 1992 WC worth more?

    I'm glad for this format, personally. The others were mostly rubbish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronaldo7 View Post
    No you're not favourites. Don't kid yourself mate.
    65-35?
    To pak you mean
    Time will tell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mueez View Post
    England have 8 points at the moment and these are the upcoming fixtures:

    Versus Sri Lanka - win

    Versus Australia - lose/washout

    Versus India - lose

    Versus New Zealand - lose

    If England wins one and loses three they will have 10 points.

    If England wins one, loses two and has one washout they will have 11 points.

    Australia have also 8 points at the moment and these are the upcoming matches:

    Versus Bangladesh - lose

    Versus England - lose/washout

    Versus New Zealand - lose

    Versus South Africa - win

    If Australia wins one and loses all the remaining matches they will have 10 points.

    If Australia wins two and loses two they will have 12 points which will be enough for them.

    So ideally what we should hope is that England vs Australia match gets washed out which means both will have 11 points if they win 1/4 matches and then it will all depend on the NRR.
    Are you predicting Bangladesh to defeat Australia?

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    Hilarious to see posters thinking Australia would lose today lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi View Post
    I guess India, eng,aus, nz are in sf.
    That was obvious since the first match of the world cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fanofcricket4life View Post
    Are you predicting Bangladesh to defeat Australia?
    It was just a scenario.

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    Cannot agree more. The fans who scream for positivity [somehow the belief that if you believe positively it will magically transmit to the players performance] dont necissitate the harsh self criticism needed for a team to make the upward trajectory movement.

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    With Australia defeating Bangladesh, it is almost certain that Australia, New Zealand, England and India will be the four semi finalists, all of them will be scoring more than 11 points each.

    11 points is the maximum that the other teams in the competition can score.

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    If Australia losses to all of England, New Zealand and South Africa, then they still can be eliminated.

    If England losses to all of Australia, India and New Zealand, then they can also be eliminated.

    If New Zealand lose to all of England, Australia, Pakistan and West Indies, they will be eliminated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsalan Pro View Post
    If Australia losses to all of England, New Zealand and South Africa, then they still can be eliminated.

    If England losses to all of Australia, India and New Zealand, then they can also be eliminated.

    If New Zealand lose to all of England, Australia, Pakistan and West Indies, they will be eliminated.
    No.2 could have been likely if Nz was bit stronger.

    No 3 is our only hope tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsalan Pro View Post
    If Australia losses to all of England, New Zealand and South Africa, then they still can be eliminated.

    If England losses to all of Australia, India and New Zealand, then they can also be eliminated.

    If New Zealand lose to all of England, Australia, Pakistan and West Indies, they will be eliminated.
    Exactly. I don't know why some people here are guaranteeing these teams semi-final spots with still lot to play for. All those matches are against good teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsalan Pro View Post
    If Australia losses to all of England, New Zealand and South Africa, then they still can be eliminated.

    If England losses to all of Australia, India and New Zealand, then they can also be eliminated.

    If New Zealand lose to all of England, Australia, Pakistan and West Indies, they will be eliminated.
    You are not only hoping for miracles, you are actually relying upon miracles for your team to advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by latecut View Post
    You are not only hoping for miracles, you are actually relying upon miracles for your team to advance.
    These are not miracles, each of the team I have said a team will lose to is a strong side and the match outcome is more than likely. When did I say I am relying on these results for my team?

    I am just pointing out that each of England, Australia and New Zealand can still be eliminated as they are yet to face tough opponents, unlike Pakistan and India.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronaldo7 View Post
    No.2 could have been likely if Nz was bit stronger.

    No 3 is our only hope tbh
    Why not number 1?

    Australia can lose to England and New Zealand on current form. South Africa has to win at some stage, might be against Australia where they click as a team knowing that they can't qualify and playing without pressure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsalan Pro View Post
    Why not number 1?

    Australia can lose to England and New Zealand on current form. South Africa has to win at some stage, might be against Australia where they click as a team knowing that they can't qualify and playing without pressure.
    Could be but I can definitely see Aus beating at least one of eng and nz

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    Australia look good but I think they have no bowling apart from Starc and Cummins. England or India will make them pay for that in the finals.


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