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23rd June 2019, 18:59 #1
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Where was Haris Sohail all this while? Huge injustice to suppress this talent
Amazing match winning effort from him today against a good attack.
To think that this guy was warming the bench all this while, i feel shocked.
Did no one in the team management understand his potential?
He looked class apart
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23rd June 2019, 19:01 #2
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yes he did but thats just one innings..
he is always tuk tuk tuking aswell..but credit where credit is due malik should have never been ahead of him
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23rd June 2019, 19:02 #3
Malik mafia of course
With Maliks useless batting average of 10 in England for over 15 years
Absolute shameless nepotism
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23rd June 2019, 19:03 #4
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23rd June 2019, 19:03 #5
His potential hasn’t been doubted but he is to blamed as well. He was fixture in 2014-2015 and got chance after chance, but never converted his starts into something substantial.
He doesn’t seem bothered about keeping his weight in check and his fitness means he is always in the red zone in terms of breaking down.
He would have played all matches in the World Cup so far had he not got out lazily against West Indies.
He should have had a long run at 4 since coming back from his long-term injury, and there is no doubt that he has been mistreated to an extent, but he has also done quite a bit to ensure that Mickey and co. don’t trust him.
However, he will be given a long rope based on his knock today and it is up to him to ensure that his fitness holds. The ship is sailing for him in terms of age. He doesn’t have 10-15 years in his career.
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23rd June 2019, 19:04 #6
The guy has soooo much time for his shots vs pace... it was clear to see even from last world cup.
In Adelaide during the WC, he looked the only batsman comfortable out there vs AUS.
He had fitness issues that held him back but now it has been rectified, only nepotism is stopping his continued selection.
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23rd June 2019, 19:05 #7
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He's had knee issues which has prevented him from being in the team.
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23rd June 2019, 19:05 #8
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23rd June 2019, 19:06 #9
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23rd June 2019, 19:06 #10
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That six over point vs Rabada
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23rd June 2019, 19:07 #11
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23rd June 2019, 19:08 #12
Didn’t azhar Mahmood get a double century on his debut
And also Asif Ali scores a couple of 50’s
Just a one off flash in the plan
He’s been doing nothing of note lately for Pakistan
Not even sure where he was during the recent South Africa series in novemeber
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23rd June 2019, 19:08 #13
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23rd June 2019, 19:09 #14
Malik was bailing Pakistan out time and time again when Haris was on the sidelines. It is possible to praise Haris without criticizing a man of honor like Malik.
He said he will retire from ODIs after the World Cup and he will stay true to his word. What more do you want from him? Apologize to the nation for not performing?
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23rd June 2019, 19:09 #15
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Body shaming in cricket must stop.
Just because he has a few extra ponds shouldn’t go against for as long as he’s scoring.
Also you cannot expect talent to have great stats if chances given aren’t sufficient
Please give him an extended run in reds and ODIs at #4. Let him play there for six months to an year at least
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23rd June 2019, 19:09 #16
only a blind person would’ve picked Malik over Sohail in the last 18 months
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23rd June 2019, 19:09 #17
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He only needs one failure for uncle Malik to return back to the side.
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23rd June 2019, 19:10 #18
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'experienced' Shoaib Malik was playing instead.
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23rd June 2019, 19:13 #19
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Everybody flip flopping as usual.
He has always had the talent and class, if not quite the work ethic and fitness. Where were the people after the windies complaining when he got dropped .
Basically, they "can't " force hafeez to bat 6, so once that doesn't happen it's harder to get haris in the side. Today there hand was forced
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23rd June 2019, 19:14 #20
Pakistan batting averages in ODIs since Champions Trophy Final (excluding SL, Zim, Afg, H Kong)
— Saj Sadiq (@Saj_PakPassion) June 18, 2019
H Sohail 54.10
Imad 49.37
Imam 43.21
Babar Azam 35.87
F Zaman 35.78
M Hafeez 34.81
Sarfaraz 33.29
Shadab 23.27
S Malik 23.09#Cricket
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23rd June 2019, 19:14 #21
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23rd June 2019, 19:15 #22
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23rd June 2019, 19:16 #23
Should’ve been a permanent ODI number 4 for the last few years but it’s not too late
Hard to get a handle on this double edged sword
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23rd June 2019, 19:16 #24
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Mamoon has been backing Malik for a while now, and he wanted Malik in the world cup at any cost.
Not unexpected to see him blame our best batsman for his own exclusion.
Haris Sohail and Babar are our best batsmen. If you drop any of them, it's criminal from you. Period.
It's the same as Dhawan or Rohit getting dropped for the Cup.
He averages over 45 at over 83 strike rate, these stats are mind blowing for Pak batsman, nobody else has this much quality apart from Babar.
He's a complete batsman at ease against the pacers.
Only one bad match of WI where everyone else also failed, if you think that is a reason to drop him, you don't understand cricket.
It's like dropping Kohli for failing in one match. That's the importance of Haris and Babar in our batting lineup.
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23rd June 2019, 19:18 #25
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23rd June 2019, 19:18 #27
Poor management, thats all I can say.
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23rd June 2019, 19:20 #28
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Haris got 2 centuries in the build up to the world cup.
However I understand why Malik was in the starting lineup, the reason being Malik had a higher acceleration gear and was a better chaser than Haris, or so we thought we knew.
All these qualms can be put to rest now, Haris might have well played the most assured 89 runs by a Pakistani batsman this whole tournament. This is the type of knock that lights up the whole squad in an ambition to do better. This knock can potentially bring back the lost soul of the cricketing team. This is the sort of knock that Sarfraz played against South Africa in the previous world cup that brought the fire back in the side. With this knock I think Malik has been completely replaced by his one time protege.
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23rd June 2019, 19:21 #29
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23rd June 2019, 19:21 #30
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Malik isn't worth talking or writing about. It's his PR campaign and political backing which kept him in the team from 2015 till now.
He's one of our most useless players in the last 20 years and should've never been given this much importance.
Anyways
This is about a class batsman Haris Sohail, it's criminal to drop your best batsman.
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23rd June 2019, 19:22 #31
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pakistan & political selections, non-selections go hand-in-hand.
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23rd June 2019, 19:22 #32
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23rd June 2019, 19:22 #33
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He isn't very good, but as I argued a few weeks ago,he had to bat at 4 because he is better than the others like Malik. Malik was picked to hit spinners but unfortunately never stayed in long enough to ever get close to doing that.
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23rd June 2019, 19:24 #34
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I am waiting for this, however I do sympathize with @Mamoon since for a very long time we haven't looked like a team that can't do without Hafeez or Malik. I was very certain both of them were a neccessity and I am very sure we couldn't do without them. Haris, Rizwan, Asif were all names floated over but none of them had a recent match winning performance to write home about (despite the centuries)
I am glad to see a solution to the Malik problem. It only came about if one of the batsmen took the mantle in their hands and stood up to the responsibility of taking the team to a competitive score.
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23rd June 2019, 19:25 #35
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23rd June 2019, 19:25 #36
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23rd June 2019, 19:26 #37
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23rd June 2019, 19:26 #38
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Some also mentioned here that when this question (Why wasnt he selected in the games before this) was raised to WASIM by Mark Nicholas for which Waz didnt reply and neglect that question subtly.. Wasim is a fan of malik..
This is the situation with the team and the fans. They would want their favorite player to play ahead of another competent player always... only a miserable loss to India can change things, till then it will be nullified by him and his mafiaLast edited by Zeeraq; 23rd June 2019 at 19:33.
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23rd June 2019, 19:27 #39
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We weren't in this situation because of Malik, the reason we never replaced Malik was nobody wanted to take the bull by the horns like Haris did today. This is can be a potential match winning, and career changing knock.
I feel happy for Haris since the guy had his career savaged by injuries, he was in the position of Azam in the last world cup, then lost out on 2-3 years of cricket and came back in the side to be on the bench, or Babar or Malik/Hafeez's replacement. The guy has stood out and has very good experience to boot of playing in his seocnd world cup. Without a doubt in this second time he has looked the most assured and most classy off all of our batsmen. Including a few arrogant ones that bat at a strike rate of 70.
Welcome Haris Sohail, this knock is a memorable one for me regardless of how this game turns out for us.
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23rd June 2019, 19:32 #40
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For a while Malik was the only assured batsman in our lineup, you only have to go as far as Asia Cup 2018 to see that. We have known for a while Malik is a different batsman on Asian pitches, while on the more bouncier pitches he is occassionally a good batsman but not very frequently.
Having said that none of Haris, Rizwan or Asif gave any assurances that Malik can be replaced. I blame our bench not Malik himself. I am glad Haris has taken the responsibility on his shoulders now it has been high time that we needed to replace the deadwood.
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23rd June 2019, 19:34 #41
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He must have been doing a very good job carrying drinks and towels. So good that they didn't want to pick him for the starting XI.
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23rd June 2019, 19:35 #42
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I have hated on Malik for a very long time, but I do feel sympathy for him. He has been in this situation many times as a player it just feels he is mentally not one of the strongest and that has been his wrong doing. We thought Champions Trophy was a one off but that is not the case. His demons are the English pitches and he cannot get over these demons anytime.
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23rd June 2019, 19:36 #43
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Haris Sohail has played one of the all time great world cup innings today.
He is only 30 years old.
If he works on his fitness and injury permitting he should be an automatic choice for all future ODI's now Inshallah.
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23rd June 2019, 19:46 #44
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23rd June 2019, 19:47 #45
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Haris Sohail is unfit and has an issue with his knee. Although he deserves to be in the XI, we have to find a replacement asap since he is prone to injuries.
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23rd June 2019, 19:48 #46
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23rd June 2019, 19:48 #47
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23rd June 2019, 19:48 #48
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Too far back for those with a memory of a goldfish like @aliasad1998 to remember
But dont worry i have recommended a book about cricket to him and he is learning about the game
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23rd June 2019, 19:57 #49
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23rd June 2019, 20:05 #51
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I saw Haris Sohail in the England games and apart from on game he didn't do much and seemed very slow and in same games Asif Ali was going big guns. I guess things change too quickly in this day and age, one series doesn't make or break a player.
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23rd June 2019, 20:19 #52
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Showed Babar how to build innings even if you are a slow mover.
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23rd June 2019, 20:21 #53
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23rd June 2019, 20:39 #55
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23rd June 2019, 20:54 #56
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23rd June 2019, 20:59 #57
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23rd June 2019, 21:00 #58
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23rd June 2019, 21:01 #59
I think Haris suffered because he is more of a classical batsman and after the runfests during the England series we got obsessed with big hitters even though the likes of Asif Ali had not been proven in real competition. We forgot that Haris actually scored runs in the 2015 world cup so he had some pedigree.
Big hitters are worth their weight in gold if they are genuine quality, but in our desperation we turned to half-cooked hacks.
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23rd June 2019, 21:07 #60
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23rd June 2019, 21:15 #61
Didn’t have enough senior magic
We have to give some izzat to Professor and Malik
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23rd June 2019, 21:20 #62
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This isn't factually correct.
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23rd June 2019, 21:24 #63
Haris apparently has a very serious knee problem very similar to the knee problems Akhtar faced, doctors have already told him he will not have a very long career in the sport.
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23rd June 2019, 21:37 #65
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23rd June 2019, 21:46 #66
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If Haris can be looked after well and managed properly he could become one of Pakistan's greatest ever batsmen.
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23rd June 2019, 22:19 #67
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Haris should be batting at 4. That one inning from Hafeez seems to have completely confused them.
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23rd June 2019, 22:31 #68
He is way better than Hafeez Malik Asif Akmal
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23rd June 2019, 22:37 #69
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23rd June 2019, 22:51 #70
Whilst sohail has suffered from injuries, hes simply been kept out of side because malik/hafeez have had usually no merit selection infront of him. Maliks continual inclusion for so long has been a joke.
Sohail has just seemed an easy target to drop when things go wrong wiv team.
Pakistani cricket politics for you.
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23rd June 2019, 22:54 #71
It shows the lack of patience as they dropped him after one failure. He is our best batsman against the big teams.
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23rd June 2019, 22:58 #72
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23rd June 2019, 23:15 #73
Amazing explanation from Safraz about Haris’ exclusion
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23rd June 2019, 23:16 #74
Where was Haris Sohail all this while? Huge injustice to suppress this talent
Haris Sohail is no world-beater to be honest here. It´s just one good innings. However, what a good innings it was and what a time to perform for Pakistan. A Pakistan batsman batting at a high strike-rate like he did is itself a rarity. So he deserves all the applause here. I can´t believe that they played a nobody like Malik over him. Again, I know it´s just one innings but the point here is that Malik has transformed into a nobody as a cricketer the last 11 years or so. Even my two and a half year old nephew should be played ahead of him, or Pakistan should simply play with 10 players if the need be.
All in all, congratulations to Pakistan on such a clinical performance, except of course from the fielding department. Dropped catches..... what more can I say? we´ve all exhausted our keyboards on this ever since the forum has come into being, yet it makes no difference. Against any other team other than this average South African team, they could prove very, very costly - and they´ve already in the tournament against Australia!
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23rd June 2019, 23:18 #75
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Was ridiculous to drop Sohail for Malik , i was never on the bandwagon that Sohail is no good etc, he sometimes can get bogged down but he has a lot of shots and puts price on his wicket,
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23rd June 2019, 23:20 #76
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He should have been PAK's No. 4 in ODI & No. 6 in Test from 01 April 2011......... he wasn't for a reason and that was certainly not his knees. I am afraid, same fate might be awaiting for Saud Shakeel as well.
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23rd June 2019, 23:20 #77
Where was Haris Sohail all this while? Huge injustice to suppress this talent
Also, one thing that I´ve known about Haris is, and it´s a frustrating fact, that he gets his eye in, plays such pleasing strokes, promises much and then gets out in the mid-30s or 40s. So I hope that this innings gives him the platform to improve on that.
Also, he has put on a lot of weight recently, hasn´t he? He wasn´t this "healthy" the last time I saw him. The tummy worries me a little for an international sportsman - as does Sarfraz´s. However, I seek pardon in advance if both have any medical issues behind all this, as you never know.
What did he say?
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23rd June 2019, 23:25 #79
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23rd June 2019, 23:25 #80