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    New Zealand v Pakistan | Match 33, World Cup | Edgbaston | June 26, 2019 | Pre-Match Discussion

    Big match coming up on Wednesday with Pakistan facing unbeaten NZ in a must-win match.

    NZ's biggest chink in their armour is batting fragility outside of KW. Get him out early and Pakistan will win.

    What should be the bowling plan?

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    Simple is that don't drop a catch.... Or run out chance. Just unlike we did against Rohit Sharma

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    Also get him in early against Amir or best bet Nz batting is second and wicket favour spin then Shadab can het him he was not comfortable against Tahir


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    If Hafeez can get two hundreds in a game anyone can.

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    Pakistan is usually good team to contain Williamson. Problem is that Mr Guptill that we always struggles against even he is out of form we have habit of making him a hero

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    Nz is due for poor match .hopefully it is against us

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    Catches win matches, can't afford to have a bad day in the filed.

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    Taylor usually kills us

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    So what team will Pakistan play? Is the time to get Hasnain in ?


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    NZ has historically been weak against extreme pace , not this team though.

    I will give husnain a go ahead of shaheen against them , the teams are so mismatched. Pakistan will need some x factor.


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    We need to bat first again if we win toss
    Team unchanged


    New Era of Team Pakistan

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    I think we should keep same combination, no need to try out another pacer.

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    Get Williamson out quick and we might have a chance. I would keep the same XI, but against Afghanistan, I would play Hasnain.

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    Taylor is the one that kills us

    That hack on the leg side always gets us

    They also have arguably the best bolwer
    In the world in Boult

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asif321 View Post
    We need to bat first again if we win toss
    Team unchanged
    Drop Shaheen as he is the weak link for Hasnain or even Hassan Ali

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    Since they've pretty much qualified I hope they rest a few players.

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    Drop Hafeez to five.

    Play Babar as an opener.

    Fakhar at 3. Haris at 4.

    Then not drop the catches of Taylor, Williamson, & CDG. InshAllah we got this.


    Azaadi. InshAllah.

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    Same team. Switch the spots of Hafeez and Haris


    Hard to get a handle on this double edged sword

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    I don't have a good feeling about that match against NZ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jog_1 View Post
    Taylor usually kills us
    Guptill, Williamson and Taylor.

    I wouldnít rule out Grandhomme especially his bowling.

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    Our biggest hurdle. If we win this we will make the semis. Hope NZ rest a few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aliasad1998 View Post
    Same team. Switch the spots of Hafeez and Haris
    You never change a winning formula in cricket!

    Which chapter are you on now in that book?

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    Our only issues will be the toss and our fielding.

    Both NZ and Pak prefer batting first

    Our fielding is horrendous! We will drop catches.


    "You aren't a failure if you fail, you are a failure if you don't get up to try again" - Imran Khan.

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    Has NZ had any close games so far? Pak will need to post a huge total

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    Letís unleash our 2019 version of Shoaib Akhtar...

    My XI:

    Fakhar Zaman
    Imam ul Haq
    Babar Azam
    Haris Sohail
    Sarfraz Ahmed
    Mohammad Hafeez
    Imad Wasim
    Shadab Khan
    Mohammad Amir
    Wahab Riaz
    Mohammad Hasnain

    IA we got this!

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    3rd seamer remains a huge worry. Sorry but SSA cant play that role. Has been poor during the WC.

    Maybe try Hasnain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GLORY OF '92 View Post
    Our biggest hurdle. If we win this we will make the semis. Hope NZ rest a few.
    They won't rest anyone. They need a point to guarantee qualification.

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    Quote Originally Posted by amirm View Post
    Has NZ had any close games so far? Pak will need to post a huge total
    Vs wi, sa bd

    Most of their games have been close games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rifaqat View Post
    You never change a winning formula in cricket!

    Which chapter are you on now in that book?
    The chapter where your hero has been brutally exposed and will hopefully never wear a Pakistan shirt again


    Hard to get a handle on this double edged sword

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    Time has arrived for Abu Dhabi revenge 4 runs.
    Time has arrived for Carlos Brathwaite brother revenge
    Time has arrived for Ross Taylor : Shoaib Akhtar 2011 revenge
    Time has arrived for Salman Butt 2010, 132 chase T20 revenge
    Time has arrived for Daniel Vettori 2009 semi final revenge
    Time has arrived for Craig McMillan 2000, Nairobi semi final revenge
    Time has arrived for 1969 Revenge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mueez View Post
    Letís unleash our 2019 version of Shoaib Akhtar...

    My XI:

    Fakhar Zaman
    Imam ul Haq
    Babar Azam
    Haris Sohail
    Sarfraz Ahmed
    Mohammad Hafeez
    Imad Wasim
    Shadab Khan
    Mohammad Amir
    Wahab Riaz
    Mohammad Hasnain

    IA we got this!
    Shoaib Akhtar proved himself before the 1999 world cup at FC level, while Hasnain has played only few FC/OD games.

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    The way lady luck has been smiling at the Kiwis I have a bad feeling about this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mueez View Post
    Let’s unleash our 2019 version of Shoaib Akhtar...

    My XI:

    Fakhar Zaman
    Imam ul Haq
    Babar Azam
    Haris Sohail
    Sarfraz Ahmed
    Mohammad Hafeez
    Imad Wasim
    Shadab Khan
    Mohammad Amir
    Wahab Riaz
    Mohammad Hasnain

    IA we got this!
    Go with this team for the remainder of the World Cup, I like our chances against NZ as long as we don't drop catches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Green Patriot View Post
    The way lady luck has been smiling at the Kiwis I have a bad feeling about this one.
    Their lady luck was shattered in 92/99
    Watch out

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    Good luck NZ ,you will need a lot!

    Pakistan will be near impossible to beatt from now on .

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordJames View Post
    Drop Shaheen as he is the weak link for Hasnain or even Hassan Ali
    Throwing hasnain at such crucial match might backfire
    Shaheen been good against kiwis


    New Era of Team Pakistan

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    Pakistan batting collapse is just around the corner. Either this game or next one.
    Be ready

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    Quote Originally Posted by munaf4u View Post
    Pakistan batting collapse is just around the corner. Either this game or next one.
    Be ready
    Just coz we batted well today??
    We collapsed vs India and wi.

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    Pakistan top order played well in all games except 1st game. They will fail anytime now.

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    NZ have been quite ordinary this WC so far. They have won, sometimes by the skin of their teeth, matches which they were expected to win anyway. Pakistan is another such match, except that nothing can be "expected" when it comes to Pakistan.

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    I have to say I have a bad feeling - that they are going to replace Henry with Southee... who will destroy us. With both bat and ball.

    Letís hope Southee stays out and we negotiate Boult well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forum363 View Post
    I have to say I have a bad feeling - that they are going to replace Henry with Southee... who will destroy us. With both bat and ball.

    Letís hope Southee stays out and we negotiate Boult well.
    If it's not swinging, southee's just a rich man's Aizaz cheema. We've countered him well recently.

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    quarter-final for us

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    i have a bad feeling that this match will resemble 2006 CT match vs SA where SA scored 240 odd and we were dismissed for 70 odd

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deewana View Post
    i have a bad feeling that this match will resemble 2006 CT match vs SA where SA scored 240 odd and we were dismissed for 70 odd
    Jub boray khayalaat ahrahay hotay hain tou apnay tak hi rakhtay hain

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    NZ is yet to lose a game in this World Cup. Everyone has an off day and it may very well be against Pakistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deewana View Post
    i have a bad feeling that this match will resemble 2006 CT match vs SA where SA scored 240 odd and we were dismissed for 70 odd
    What a specific bad feeling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manager101 View Post
    Shoaib Akhtar proved himself before the 1999 world cup at FC level, while Hasnain has played only few FC/OD games.
    It is worth a try tbh.

    Kiwis fear express-pace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BakuGM View Post
    Go with this team for the remainder of the World Cup, I like our chances against NZ as long as we don't drop catches.
    Exactly.

    This is the best possible lineup for Pakistan.

    It has all in it.

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    Pakistan basically have an 11 man squad for the rest of the WC

    Asif - Liability in the field, can't play him
    Hasan - Completely lost his rhythm and control
    Hasnain - Too young
    Malik - Lol

    Same team will have to play every game from here on in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoUgandaCranes View Post
    Drop Hafeez to five.

    Play Babar as an opener.

    Fakhar at 3. Haris at 4.

    Then not drop the catches of Taylor, Williamson, & CDG. InshAllah we got this.
    In addition, win the toss, give Boult figures of 0/53 and make 344 and yes, win by 150 runs too boost our net rr.


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    Yeh jahaan cheez kya hai Loh-o-Qalam tere hain

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitthestump View Post
    Pakistan basically have an 11 man squad for the rest of the WC

    Asif - Liability in the field, can't play him
    Hasan - Completely lost his rhythm and control
    Hasnain - Too young
    Malik - Lol

    Same team will have to play every game from here on in.
    Worst part Amir was kind a limping and holding his ankle in the last over of the match

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAJ View Post
    In addition, win the toss, give Boult figures of 0/53 and make 344 and yes, win by 150 runs too boost our net rr.
    We don't have to worry about NRR as long as England loses 2 matches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Worst part Amir was kind a limping and holding his ankle in the last over of the match
    I think it had to do with running up the slope.

    Should be hopefully nothing to worry about.

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    Keep the same team as today. If the pitch is the same as the New Zealand vs South Africa one we have a very good chance of winning. Need to see off the new ball and then target CDG,Neesham,and Santner.

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    Colin de Grandhomme will probably single-handedly destroy you. Don't say I didn't warn you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IAJ View Post
    In addition, win the toss, give Boult figures of 0/53 and make 344 and yes, win by 150 runs too boost our net rr.
    Boult has no idea about the phainti that he's going to be dished by Imam

    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Worst part Amir was kind a limping and holding his ankle in the last over of the match
    Shaheen looks to carry an injury. That elbow is too heavily strapped for something to just be normal. Honestly, they should draft in Rizwan from the reserves in place of Malik and someone from Pakistan as well in the next couple of days. That will mean at least an uplift in the quality of substitute fielders.

    Also, I've got a feeling that Hassan's gonna bounce back. Guy won us a champions trophy, he'll surely get it right in time for the business end of the tournament. InshAllah.


    Azaadi. InshAllah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonny darko View Post
    Colin de Grandhomme will probably single-handedly destroy you. Don't say I didn't warn you.
    Absolutely destroyed us in the UAE.
    Scored a whopping 3 runs in 3 matches.
    What a beast

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoUgandaCranes View Post
    Boult has no idea about the phainti that he's going to be dished by Imam



    Shaheen looks to carry an injury. That elbow is too heavily strapped for something to just be normal. Honestly, they should draft in Rizwan from the reserves in place of Malik and someone from Pakistan as well in the next couple of days. That will mean at least an uplift in the quality of substitute fielders.

    Also, I've got a feeling that Hassan's gonna bounce back. Guy won us a champions trophy, he'll surely get it right in time for the business end of the tournament. InshAllah.
    Imam will be crucial to blunt the threat of Boult

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    Fakhar
    Babar
    Haris
    Safraz
    Asif
    Imad
    Shadab
    Wahab
    Amir
    Hasnain
    Shaheen

    Enough of Hafeez now.

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    Pakistan can win this.

    Key wicket is Williamson.

    I think NZ has been very lucky with their schedule this tournament. WI almost took them down.

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    While I would prefer we don’t play Hafeez, he does find a way to turn up against NZ sometimes. Maybe the same team, but I hope hasnain is making a stronger case in the nets

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    SSA is carrying an injury on his elbow.

    Poor lad still has to bowl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoUgandaCranes View Post
    Drop Hafeez to five.

    Play Babar as an opener.

    Fakhar at 3. Haris at 4.

    Then not drop the catches of Taylor, Williamson, & CDG. InshAllah we got this.
    Spot on about the batting order

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    Can one of Pakistan's Top 3 please step up and get a 100?

    They've been so annoying

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Keep the same team as today. If the pitch is the same as the New Zealand vs South Africa one we have a very good chance of winning. Need to see off the new ball and then target CDG,Neesham,and Santner.
    Santner is a very good bowler...pretty useful than u think with both bat and ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jiduguravindra View Post
    Santner is a very good bowler...pretty useful than u think with both bat and ball.
    I rate him very highly but we have to target him. Boult and Ferguson are their main bowlers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Rose View Post
    While I would prefer we don’t play Hafeez, he does find a way to turn up against NZ sometimes. Maybe the same team, but I hope hasnain is making a stronger case in the nets
    Shaheen bowled well today (relatively). I don't think he will be dropped. Pak will play same 11.

    Good news is that that 11 is the best one so far. Sad that we had to endure Malik getting 8,0,0 for that to happen (even though he average liked 13 in England prior to that).

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    Pak just have to see off Boult and we'll do ok.

    I'm much more confident in our current openers than in the past. Eg. Hafeez, Butt, Shahzad etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blistering Barnacle View Post
    Pak just have to see off Boult and we'll do ok.

    I'm much more confident in our current openers than in the past. Eg. Hafeez, Butt, Shahzad etc.
    I think Pakistan (= fakhar) will attack Boult given their style of play. Honestly I worry more about guys like Matt Henry who need teams like Pakistan to sustain their career.

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    Boult isnít the only threat. Ferguson could bounce us out easily,

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    Their bowling is solid need to watch out for Ferguson and even neesham I feel he might be the bowler that will get a lot of wickets vs Pakistan

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    I am not sure what to make of Shaheenís performance today.

    Canít be called good. Wasnít too bad either.
    Maybe Hasnain in for him. Same team otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nads_rocks View Post
    Fakhar
    Babar
    Haris
    Safraz
    Asif
    Imad
    Shadab
    Wahab
    Amir
    Hasnain
    Shaheen

    Enough of Hafeez now.
    Prof was MOM in our only other win. Plus Asif is not even a hit and miss player.

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    For me the biggest threat is dealing with Bolt with the new ball. NZ bowling and fielding are A class.

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    The top 3 is the key for all teams in this World Cup. Our top 3 relies on club stature player Imam and midget Babar. Need to bring in Asif to open with Fakhar. Will probably fail but the other 2 are'nt doing wonders anyways and are of amateur level.

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    Guptil, kane and.taylor are a big threat to us.
    Grandhomme is mediocre but always performs with both bat and ball against us.
    Trent is a dangerous!

    But the biggest danger is lockie ferguson! He is going to bowl 90mph bouncers at our players heads!
    And none of them will be able to cope!

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    How is the pitch and weather?

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    Stage is all set for a 92 repeat

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    Bat first. Target 300+. Get rid of two of the top four before NZ reaches 100. Hold on to all the catches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boi View Post
    Boult isn’t the only threat. Ferguson could bounce us out easily,
    Lockie is great.

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