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  1. #161
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    Translates into "We are an average team we punched above the weight". He has to set higher standards for his team. Even one loss should be treated seriously let alone 3 losses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Inzi
    Sarfraz
    Hafeez
    Malik
    Flower

    All of these need cleaning out.
    *Azhar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah View Post
    That is not strictly true. Do you know how they lined up in the windies game?
    They just bottled it thereafter, but it kind of worked in the next game v england
    Yes that sort of combination can work in a game or two but not consistently.
    Sarfraz showed more faith in malik than haris although haris scored 2 centuries in Aus series, to Sarfraz form doesnt matter if shoaib 'bhai' is in the squad he had to play.
    Hassan has been in terrible form yet he played ahead of shaheen who was our best fast bowler in last year or so. Even in series against England when Shaheen was going for runs he was still picking wickets, a lot more than any of our fast bowlers.
    Sarfraz has shown inability to make brave and smart decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by umerz View Post
    The team and available talent is average too. We don't have world beaters and we haven't been playing good ODI cricket for at least 8 years. Now if you were thinking we should have won the cup then please also share the reasons why Pakistan team is better than England/India/Australia
    Yes we do not have world beaters but theres a difference between expectations of fans and what players expect from themselves.As a player you have to play to the best of your abilities and expect great results.
    As a captain when you know you have limited resources you make best use of the available choices. Sarfraz could not drop both out of form shoaib 'bhai' and hassan to play in-form haris and Shaheen. Shaheen is our only fast bowler to have picked up wickets in last year or so.,even against England when he was going for runs he was still picking up wickets.
    In my opinion Sarfraz lacks both courage and ambition and such a guy can can never make a good leader

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    Bro, altough i like Haris as a batsmen, he also is no savior.
    Haris got his chance and we saw what he did in the west indies game, which is why from a team managment point of view his dropping at the time made sense.

    I hate mallik to the core and we could all sit here and discuss how Malik was at fault, but even Haris was at fault aswell for what he did in the west indies game.

    IF Pakistan was a really good team, they would had atleast defeeated Afghanistan by a big margin. But we did not

    And yet you guys think that we are capable of winning the world cup.

    Had we defeated Afghanistan by a big margin, it would had been enough to fix the runrate.
    Haris vs Malik doesn’t even warrant a discussion. Savior or not he’s a genuine batsman and 2nd best in squad. He walked into the tournament on back of 2 hundreds against Australia which Malik and HAFEez combined haven’t done.

    He got a good ball and got out against windies that doesn’t mean you drop him for garbage like Malik and then when you bring him back you try utmost to make him fail by batting him number 5 “.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    then where was that skill and competance agianst West Indies please tell me. Because you are implyiing here that Haris was not at fault for that
    So you measure skill and experience on 1 game?

    Use some sense. It made no sense to drop haris

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    IN hindsight this was not a terrible world cup for Pakistan. Technically they had the shared spot of no.4 with New zealand only behind the top 3 teams Australia/ENgland/India.

    1) India
    2) Australia
    3) England
    4) NZ/Pakistan

    There is nothing shocking there as SA/WI flattered to deceive, WI/BD lived upto the expectations.

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    Waiting for a “sarfaraz Ahmed retires from all international cricket” thread.

    This guy is such a pathetic human being. What an embarrassment. Sarfaraz can you make the team as a batsman? If no then you also don’t deserve to be the captain!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaptan View Post
    Looks like he is satisfied with the performance.
    Wait, why wouldn't he be? They were the 6th ranked side coming into the WC and finished a position higher at 5th.

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    Besharam admi.

    Should be sacked immediately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    for what should he say sorry?

    His team came 5th good enough. We did better than expected.

    India, Australia and England are better teams than Paksitan. It is well known fact.

    I dont understand what you guys think our team is....... Do bother to compare yourself to other teams.

    We came 5th, got 11 points. Pakistan was no favourites.
    Exactly my sentiments -the overall performance was satisfactory, problem was with the selections of squads (Malik, and no specialist spinner) and even teams in certain games (not playing Shadab in Aus game, and playing Hasan Ali for too many games instead of trying out Hasnain and Afridi). Anyway time to move on from Sarfraz's captaincy and Inzi as they are guilty of wrong selections. Mickey may well be but we can give him benefit of doubt for one more year under new selection management.

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    You win one out of your first 5 matches and you are always going to be up against it.

    Pakistan played some very poor cricket in those first 5 matches and that shouldn't be ignored despite the 4 wins in a row at the end.



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    Why is everyone saying Pak played bad in first 5 games, when they did really well against England and one match got rained off from the first 5. Is it not 3 matches (WI, India, Aus), and even against Aus they competed against a much better team.

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    I think PCB is keen to sacrifice T20 World Cup as well if they intend to keep Sarfraz either as a player or captain. They don't have any liability for their actions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    You win one out of your first 5 matches and you are always going to be up against it.

    Pakistan played some very poor cricket in those first 5 matches and that shouldn't be ignored despite the 4 wins in a row at the end.
    The team was coming off a 14 consecutive losing streak as well. Performances as whole in the last 3 years needs to be reviewed

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    Pakistan right now are an average side who can sometimes punch well above their weight. That's the best way to describe them.

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    "I don't know the details of the new domestic cricket system. With the old system, we won in 92, 2009, 2017, became the #1 Test team, and we are the #1 T20I team"
    Anyone note this comment ? Those successes were never sustained Sarfraz BECAUSE of our weak domestic system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Anyone note this comment ? Those successes were never sustained Sarfraz BECAUSE of our weak domestic system.
    If Pak system was any good they would not produce joke like Sarfraz as leader of national team.

    New domestic system is going to trigger lobbies from all corners. Karachi, Lahore and Isb. There are people who have amazing power to back trash players into the national side without caring merit so they will get itchy if merit is placed.

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    Is he a captain, afraid, no captains innings, he is not even a mediocre player just see the other Captains performance, he is not a good player, ask him to leave cricket

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Anyone note this comment ? Those successes were never sustained Sarfraz BECAUSE of our weak domestic system.
    The counter argument is that England has one of the best domestic systems but hasn't really translated into ICC tournament success.

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    I'm just laughing! "I'm satisfied with my performance" Coming up with excuses for not qualifying for the world cup like he's 11. Can PCB please announce the news of sacking this guy ASAP!


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    Quote Originally Posted by PakPremi View Post
    Why is everyone saying Pak played bad in first 5 games, when they did really well against England and one match got rained off from the first 5. Is it not 3 matches (WI, India, Aus), and even against Aus they competed against a much better team.
    Fans can’t count because their heads are filled with bias. The team picked up momentum after the England win but lost it by not playing any games for the next week.

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    First time I have heard Sarfi talk this long and I am a fan ! .Didnt shy away from the question and answered with honestly where he could . Of course he is not going to talk crap about other players of say the team wasnt his.


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    After losing 15 matches - Don’t focus on the losses. We are building a team.

    After taking early flight to Islamabad - This is not a bad performance considering our form before the world cup.


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    PCB should be mulling over the future of Inzi. He is clearly the problem here.


    PP's own self proclaimed sharpshooter and defender of Islam and Pakistan.

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    He needs to be sacked asap. He is a disgrace to Pakistan with his attitude.

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    Mohammad Rizwan is an upgrade to Sarfraz Ahmed, he should replace him. Secondly, Sarfraz Ahmed has been below average with the bat for past two years.

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    Sarfraz looks relaxed. He is smiling, joking around even laughing uncontrollably at one point. Being 5th is sufficient, after all we were not at the bottom so lets not be so disappointed. The 500 run plan against Bangladesh was only to make a fool out of everyone, giving false hope when they never ever intended to even try to win. Believing in miracles and not their own ability. He reminds me on Inzi. Lethargic and docile, content with mediocrity. Never seen a captain so chilled coming back home after not even getting into the top 4.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sshakir411 View Post
    Fans can’t count because their heads are filled with bias. The team picked up momentum after the England win but lost it by not playing any games for the next week.
    I guess you are right but that has been the case for long time. Not many gave PAk team credit for competing well in SA series in SA, or NZ one day series at UAE, despite some odd selections . Everyone cries about the the Aus 5-0 loss even though they know at least 9 regular squad players were missing.
    Sarfraz is not brilliant captain but given the talent in the squads he has captained he has not done a bad job at all. I will like to see a new captain now at least for ODIs and T20s and fairer selections.
    Last edited by PakPremi; 9th July 2019 at 13:36.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manager101 View Post
    Mohammad Rizwan is an upgrade to Sarfraz Ahmed, he should replace him. Secondly, Sarfraz Ahmed has been below average with the bat for past two years.
    Mohd Rizwan would be useless as ODI or T20 batsman, and is no better keeper than Sarfraz, although I want Sarfraz to only play Tests now.

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    How come he’s not been sacked yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PakPremi View Post
    Mohd Rizwan would be useless as ODI or T20 batsman, and is no better keeper than Sarfraz, although I want Sarfraz to only play Tests now.
    Sarfraz keeping is deteriorating and will further regress due to age. Don't want another Hafeez/malik with no reflexes when the next world cup arrives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manager101 View Post
    Sarfraz keeping is deteriorating and will further regress due to age. Don't want another Hafeez/malik with no reflexes when the next world cup arrives.
    Agree but Sarfraz does not deserve to be discarded from all formats immediately, remove him from ODI/T20 and slowly phase him out of tests. Rizwan or whoever does well in ODI keeping/batting can replace him in years time.

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    I despise this complacency. It is very alarming that the captain of the national team is boasting about the team performance despite not even making the semis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Odd_One View Post
    I despise this complacency. It is very alarming that the captain of the national team is boasting about the team performance despite not even making the semis.
    He is not boasting just saying they have nothing to apologise for. They tried their best but werenot good enough. Got beaten by better teams except for WI.

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    Wait, what? He hasn’t still resigned?

    This guy does not deserve to be Pakistan’s captain. He represents what is wrong with Pakistan cricket. Or even Pakistan, some would say. Lack of meritocracy. Whimsical decision making. And a seniority culture which is completely out of place in a professional environment.

    He said days before the World Cup that Shoaib Malik (bhai) and Hafeez (bhai) are the backbone of our team. Now any sane cricket follower would know that Babar and Haris are actually the backbone of Pak team. Does sarfaraz not know?

    He knows but this is his intellectual dishonesty. He knows he doesn’t owe his place to merit. He is a nothing batsman. A 20th century club captain. Who does not know when to stop eating or speaking.

    When he looks around however, he sees it all around himself. He knows how Mani and Wasim Khan were imported. He knows the likes of Shafiq Papa etc are past their times. He sees Pak’s culture of sycophancy and yes-men. Where organisations are little more than personality cults. In such a situation, right is wrong and wrong is right.

    Sarfaraz symbolises in those 5 and a half feet, or 220 lbs of flesh, Pak’s disregard for professionalism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahmed216 View Post
    Hafeez@4 himself@5 Malik@6 was part of their plan.
    And they wanted to win the Cup . Shabash!
    Lol Pak won 1 out of first 5 games due to this ‘plan’. Actually Pak only won when this super planning was trashed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain caveman View Post
    I thought so, just couldn't believe someone who supports pakistan cricket team would agree with what safaraz has said!!
    Such people are dimwitted.

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    Pakistans odi performances have been pretty shameful for 2 years, add to that an average world cup and its time for sarfaraz and few others to go.

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    I think pak deserved to be in semis ahead of NZ , but you really can’t be satisfied finishing fifth in a sport which has 8 decent teams


    " you don't play for the crowd, you play for your country " - MSD


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    Sarfaraz why don’t you start by apologising for your batting ‘performances’?

    I laud you for coming back to take a single on the last ball in Pak’s match against Bang after getting retired hurt. I wish you had continued running and never looked back.

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    Pakistani fans who abused him and his family should apologize to him instead and say sorry. From his looks to English to pimples to physique, degrading him has been a pastime for them for last 1.5 months. I really really wish they dont face tough time in life and cope such abuses.


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    He should apologise for occupying a spot in the XI.


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