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    What have Bangladesh achieved in the 2019 World Cup?

    I have noticed a lot of cricket pundits praising the BD team and I was surprised because it could only manage three wins out of 8-9 games

    Games might have been close but to be considered a respectable opposition you have to beat the likes of AUS, IND, NZ, ENG or PAK or at least one or two of them to show your mental strength.

    Two wins came against SA and AFG arguably the two worst teams of the tournament.

    One victory against WI which I consider very good because they chased it down with more than 5 overs to spare

    If you can only manage to win only 3 matches in a WC after 5 WC post test status then you really do deserved to be called minnows


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    Take Shakib out and they are a poor side. Have done nothing in the tournament to impress me.


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    shakib was exceptional and BD was the only team to chase down target above 250 plus

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    Shakib had an arguably GOAT tournament. The only reason that Bang had respectable performances in the WC.

    Would have easily beat Sachin's record of most runs by a batsman in a WC had he played the semis and finals. And add wickets/economic bowling to that which is absolutely crazy.

    Their bowling and fielding were poor.

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    Its because the majority of pundits and public see them still as minnows so when they win a game or two or run teams close they are given lavish praise which other team wouldnt get

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    They done ok to be honest. They are a decent second tier team and are in the same league as Pakistan.

    My two penny advise for Pakistan think tank will be to arrange some bilateral series with Bangladesh. This will massively help both the nations nurture their talent.

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    Too many passengers in their team.

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    Nothing special. It was more of the Shakib Al Hasan show more than anything else, he had a truly incredible World Cup and I don't think his brilliance can be stated enough.

    Take him out though and this is a very average Bangladeshi side. Yes they scored 300 a few times but barring the games against West Indies and South Africa they came in losing causes where Bangladesh knew they had conceded too many and lost the game after the first innings. The pressure was off and the batsmen played with freedom. The only teams they beat were those ranked lower than them in the table, who had pretty terrible World Cup campaigns of their own and their bowling attack was and out the worst in the tournament.

    I think people are more surprised over the fact that they competed except for the last match. That's nice and all but they still finished 7th, even below Sri Lanka which is a team they are considered to be better than
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    Mashrafe needs to be kicked out. Bangladesh need better fast bowlers.


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    They lost easily to India, Australia, and England. That was expected. When they play us , it can go either way. They lost which isnt that much of a surprise. They lost to NZ but they could have easily won that.

    The only surprise was that they beat Bangladesh.

    Bangladesh are no longer for a minnow . They played good cricket but I think people are going OTT with how well they did. They will finish 6/7th and that's where they are in the rankings. So it's nothing surprising.

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    After today's performance, I would say this Bangladesh team gets too much praise with very little to show for. They were outplayed off the park ruthlessly, after their fans spent the build-up gloating over that ridiculous four match streak.

    They had four players with more experience than a lot of teams in this WC. No excuse for this rubbish performance.

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    Pakistan brought their A+ game which increased the victory margin. I mean I have never seen Shaheen bowl so consistently with pace and swing.

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    BD have done ok.It is wrong to call them minnows.They a second tier team like Pakistan,Sri Lanka etc.The need to find a couple of fast bowlers who can make early breakthroughs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artaxerxes View Post
    BD have done ok.It is wrong to call them minnows.They a second tier team like Pakistan,Sri Lanka etc.The need to find a couple of fast bowlers who can make early breakthroughs.
    Pakistan is NOT a second tier team

    They have won more games than BD, SA, SL, WI and have won more games in this edition than any other edition since 1999 apart from 2011 which was in asia

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    They are 7th ranked team, so most likely will finish on 7th as well. I do not believe they have achieved anything spectacular. They were over hyped by media because that is what media loves to do. Also, because they still think we are minnows.

    I would not look too much into this dead rubber game. BD have lost 9 out of 11 toss which played a crucial part. Mashrafe is just such a dud, he could not even win toss. Chasing in this WC is hard man, you saw how Pakistan struggled to score even 220 odds against Afghanistan on slow pitch.

    Hopefully once Mashrafe goes away they will have a better pace attack.

    Also, the 4 game winning streak is over so no Bangladeshi poster can bring that up anymore. It is very silly of them to even bring this up especially when our overall record versus Pakistan is 5-31.

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    SHakib managed to hide so many weaknesses. Everyone started treating Shakib's performance as BD performance. Tamim was a huge let down. Their bowling frankly doesn't suit these pitches. If this tournament were held in Asia they would have even reached the semis.

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    BD are a good ODI side which needs a few tweaks to beat bigger teams.

    Mushfiqur, Shakib, Mahmadullah, Mustafizur rahman.

    These are world class players.

    Tamim has fallen from grace in this world cup otherwise he was among them too. Soumya sarkar is a good stroke maker but i feel he has temperament issues and throws it away often.

    Mehdi is a good spinner who should go forward.

    New allrounder Saifuddin is an exciting prospect and i believe he should bat at number 5 above Mahmadullah. Seems a more natural stroke maker.

    Bangladesh needs Fast bowlers though. 2 quality pacers will help them a lot. Taskin couldnt live up to expectations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza619 View Post
    Pakistan brought their A+ game which increased the victory margin. I mean I have never seen Shaheen bowl so consistently with pace and swing.
    You will see many different things from Babar, Shaheen, Imam, Hasnain etc as they havent played much and learnt much so that is why we havent seen much. We will see them surprise us in future as well as talent takes time to blossom.

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    BD have been underwhelming but showed a more assured presence among the big boys. Most of that has been due to Shakib and Mustafizur but they are not the pushovers they were even in 2011. They will be very formidable in the subcontinental WCs.


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    Honestly not many Bangladeshi posters are there to be seen on the forum to answer this question. They were in large numbers when Pakistan lost to India and by when Bangladesh had already defeated SA. Iím relatively new to the forum and very disappointed to notice this.
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    BD is a decent ODI side in my opinion and can give tough time to any team on their day. Few good pacers and young batsmen and they can be really good.

    A lot of positives for them from this WC.

    @Madplayer have also summed up pretty well.
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    They are a decent team

    You got to remember that they are playing with 10 men. Mashrafe usually has figures of 7-0-50-0 every game. Can't field and can't bat much

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    They’re not minnows anymore that is for certain. They’re at or above WI level.

    Afghanistan is the new Bangladesh of 2004 - 2012.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnaveen1980 View Post
    SHakib managed to hide so many weaknesses. Everyone started treating Shakib's performance as BD performance. Tamim was a huge let down. Their bowling frankly doesn't suit these pitches. If this tournament were held in Asia they would have even reached the semis.
    Actually BD bowling overall did surprisingly good given the fact that these types of pitches and conditions doesn't suit us as you've mentioned. I think fielding was the biggest let down. Biggest problem was having Mashrafe in the team. Remember, he was supposed to play the role of a strike bowler.

    Removing Mashrafe's horrendous figures, stats are given below. Problem is BD new ball bowling or taking wickets in the first 10 overs has been horrendous. BD really need to get rid of Mashrafe soon and find at least a Bhuvneshwar Kumar type of bowler if not JJ Bumrah.

    Without Mashrafe Mortaza:

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    Finished 7th in the end for all the hype and hoopla.
    If not for Shakib superman esque performances they look weaker than SL and West Indies at 9th rank only above Afghanistan.

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    Decent improved side but over rated as well. 7 points are still inferior to 11. Heck even Sri Lanka have 8 points

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    Unfortunate thing for BD is this team was supposed to be their golden generation of players..their golden generation of 5 players has combined experience of more than 1000 Odis..so this world cup is a huge disappointment for them..

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDfanforever View Post
    Actually BD bowling overall did surprisingly good given the fact that these types of pitches and conditions doesn't suit us as you've mentioned. I think fielding was the biggest let down. Biggest problem was having Mashrafe in the team. Remember, he was supposed to play the role of a strike bowler.

    Removing Mashrafe's horrendous figures, stats are given below. Problem is BD new ball bowling or taking wickets in the first 10 overs has been horrendous. BD really need to get rid of Mashrafe soon and find at least a Bhuvneshwar Kumar type of bowler if not JJ Bumrah.

    Without Mashrafe Mortaza:

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    Yes, the likes of Bhuvi, Bumrah and Shami grow on trees. Bhuvi may not be a wicket taker but is very hard to score off.

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    Tamim Iqbal - 235 runs @ 29.3 with a SR of 71.6
    Soumya Sarkar - 166 @ avg of 20.75 with a SR of 101
    Riyad - 219 runs @ 36.5 with a SR of 89.75 [He was groomed to be our designated 'finisher']
    Mosaddek - 117 runs @ 19.5 with SR of 106 [the 'finisher' after the designated finisher]

    Mortaza - 56 overs - 361/1. Eco - 6.44

    So where did we go wrong?

    Planning perhaps. Or else Mahmudullah who scored two centuries in the previous World Cup should have been an established number 4 and the batting should have revolved around him. Instead he was sent to slog.

    We still do not have good enough pacers. Walsh could see his career as Bangladesh bowling coach coming to a quick end.

    Tamim has done what Tamim does in World Cups. Flops.

    We were not sure who would give the last over cameos. Mosaddek was chosen over Sabbir based on the final against West Indies in the tri series preceding the World Cup. Just how Mithun was chosen over Liton based on his performance in New Zealand.

    The match against Sri Lanka washed out but majority were expecting to win this match. However, no excuse this. We could have collapsed majestically against Malinga.

    Going forward, we still do not know who will be the captain. Mushy is emotional. Shakib is defensive as captain. The others arent players who have complete respect of the team.

    Interesting times.

    Positives? Shakib performed like an ATG. Mushy did reasonably ok with the bat. Mustafizur was good considering the lack in bowling support. Same goes for Saifuddin.

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    Shakib carried BD over the line.

    Their poor fielding and new-ball bowing cost them in the end; they are not a top team anymore but have the system in place to ensure a recovery soon.

    Hope they find their feet again ASAP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDfanforever View Post
    Actually BD bowling overall did surprisingly good given the fact that these types of pitches and conditions doesn't suit us as you've mentioned. I think fielding was the biggest let down. Biggest problem was having Mashrafe in the team. Remember, he was supposed to play the role of a strike bowler.

    Removing Mashrafe's horrendous figures, stats are given below. Problem is BD new ball bowling or taking wickets in the first 10 overs has been horrendous. BD really need to get rid of Mashrafe soon and find at least a Bhuvneshwar Kumar type of bowler if not JJ Bumrah.

    Without Mashrafe Mortaza:

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    Why donít you remove Hasan Aliís fugures too if you are removing your frontline bowlerís figures to make your stats look better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreadPakoda View Post
    Why donít you remove Hasan Aliís fugures too if you are removing your frontline bowlerís figures to make your stats look better?
    This is intentional move .the op desperation is quite amazing. The above list also includes 2018 asia cup where our bowling was pathetic

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreadPakoda View Post
    Why don’t you remove Hasan Ali’s fugures too if you are removing your frontline bowler’s figures to make your stats look better?
    lol wth? I am not sure how to do that since Hasan Ali is not Pakistan captain. He is also not on the verge of retirement nor in the team just as a specialist captain. He is still Pakistan one of best seamer who just had poor tournament. He also did not play all 9 matches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saeed5646 View Post
    This is intentional move .the op desperation is quite amazing. The above list also includes 2018 asia cup where our bowling was pathetic
    These stats are only for the World Cup, you can check them out your self. Why would it be intentional move? Mashrafe is going to retire and most likely will get replaced by someone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDfanforever View Post
    These stats are only for the World Cup, you can check them out your self. Why would it be intentional move? Mashrafe is going to retire and most likely will get replaced by someone else.
    Which worldcup?in current worldcup pakistan played only 9 matches

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    We've had a bad WC but saying that we're borderline minnows is wrong, that's the same as saying that SA are minnows. I'd say we're an ok team with a lot of potential. Fielding has been our downfall as witnessed in Vs NZ and IND. Firstly we need to get rid of passengers such as Tamim and Mashrafe and bring in youngsters like England post-2015 WC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saeed5646 View Post
    This is intentional move .the op desperation is quite amazing. The above list also includes 2018 asia cup where our bowling was pathetic
    They still have the worst economy and one of the worst averages across all teams in that table. DESPITE removing Mashrafe's stats - which is a joke in itself.

    It is an embarrassing "analysis".
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZaudStorm View Post
    We've had a bad WC but saying that we're borderline minnows is wrong, that's the same as saying that SA are minnows. I'd say we're an ok team with a lot of potential. Fielding has been our downfall as witnessed in Vs NZ and IND. Firstly we need to get rid of passengers such as Tamim and Mashrafe and bring in youngsters like England post-2015 WC.
    You got smashed in atleast 2-3 games. England, Australia and Pakistan finished your lot off way before the game ended. Not sure what to make of this. I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, but the way Pakistan man-handled you yesterday, shows your lot were over-rated throughout this WC.

    Sri Lanka has played better than Bangladesh in this WC.

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    BD started off well but lost the steam at the end stage.

    Shakib and Mustafiz were brilliant. Rest were average or below-average.

    Overall, an average performance. I give them 5 out of 10.



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    although i think Bang are no longer pushovers, i still think they have a long long lonnng way to go to be considered a proper threat.

    1) Take out Shakib and that is it, done.... when other teams had 2/3/4 players making an impact with the bat, nothing can be said for Bang .. it was Get Saqib and win...

    2) Mustafiz over hype... before you go on how amazingly he bowled and did wonders with his 20 wickets, his wickets came when the teams had already scored big...in no game he cut the innings short by taking wickets early

    3) Fielding ..... lol the worst fielding side after WI ... Pak might have dropped more catches but bangladesh arent far off and their ground fielding was a horror show

    4) Mentality ..... you need to win big to feel big... the team and fans need to calm down and be at the levels they are ...showing off isnt going to help much

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    You got smashed in atleast 2-3 games. England, Australia and Pakistan finished your lot off way before the game ended. Not sure what to make of this. I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, but the way Pakistan man-handled you yesterday, shows your lot were over-rated throughout this WC.

    Sri Lanka has played better than Bangladesh in this WC.
    Sri Lanka got smashed by Australia (87 runs), NZ (10 wickets), and even South Africa (9 wickets) with 1 game to go against India. Were lucky against Afghanistan. Managed to beat England thanks to a horrendous batting performance by England. And were lucky to have their matches against BD and PAK washed out. Please point out where they played better than us? And please don't chest thump about yesterday's win, there was nothing at stake and Bangladesh just didn't seem to have any intent to win. I can assure you that it would've been much closer if there was a SF spot on the line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PakLFC View Post
    Take Shakib out and they are a poor side. Have done nothing in the tournament to impress me.
    Take Babar n imam out
    Take Rohit n Kohli out
    Take finch n Warner out
    Take Kane n Ross out

    All are mediocre then

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rellu_Katta View Post
    although i think Bang are no longer pushovers, i still think they have a long long lonnng way to go to be considered a proper threat.

    1) Take out Shakib and that is it, done.... when other teams had 2/3/4 players making an impact with the bat, nothing can be said for Bang .. it was Get Saqib and win...

    2) Mustafiz over hype... before you go on how amazingly he bowled and did wonders with his 20 wickets, his wickets came when the teams had already scored big...in no game he cut the innings short by taking wickets early

    3) Fielding ..... lol the worst fielding side after WI ... Pak might have dropped more catches but bangladesh arent far off and their ground fielding was a horror show

    4) Mentality ..... you need to win big to feel big... the team and fans need to calm down and be at the levels they are ...showing off isnt going to help much

    BD went to Asia Cup final without Tamim and Shakib. So, Shakib is not everything in our team. However, he is definitely the main player.

    I kind of disagree with your Mustafiz assessment. He normally doesn't do well with the new ball. He is an old ball bowler. He is our death overs specialist. I think he did reasonably well with death overs.

    I agree with you over fielding. Our fielding has been absolutely horrible. I don't know what fielding coach is doing but fielding quality went downhill.

    Regarding fans, fans will be fans. Some fans will be arrogant and some will be diplomatic. Some will be outright delusional. That's how subcontinental fans are.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ZaudStorm View Post
    Sri Lanka got smashed by Australia (87 runs), NZ (10 wickets), and even South Africa (9 wickets) with 1 game to go against India. Were lucky against Afghanistan. Managed to beat England thanks to a horrendous batting performance by England. And were lucky to have their matches against BD and PAK washed out. Please point out where they played better than us? And please don't chest thump about yesterday's win, there was nothing at stake and Bangladesh just didn't seem to have any intent to win. I can assure you that it would've been much closer if there was a SF spot on the line.
    Yet we had Bangladeshi fans claiming this match was not a dead rubber, moreso than Pakistan fans before the match.

    I'm glad Pakistan has pounded that arrogance out of some you lot, so much so that you have to resort to lame excuses.

    Still waiting for that 'esteemed' Bangladeshi poster who stated outright that he expects Bangladesh to beat Pakistan yesterday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    Yet we had Bangladeshi fans claiming this match was not a dead rubber, moreso than Pakistan fans before the match.

    I'm glad Pakistan has pounded that arrogance out of some you lot, so much so that you have to resort to lame excuses.

    Still waiting for that 'esteemed' Bangladeshi poster who stated outright that he expects Bangladesh to beat Pakistan yesterday.
    Do you have any excuses for your pathetic defeat against WI in the 1st match? Even Afghanistan gave a much better fight to them. Don't forget about the real level of your team, lost 12 consecutive matches before the WC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    Yet we had Bangladeshi fans claiming this match was not a dead rubber, moreso than Pakistan fans before the match.

    I'm glad Pakistan has pounded that arrogance out of some you lot, so much so that you have to resort to lame excuses.

    Still waiting for that 'esteemed' Bangladeshi poster who stated outright that he expects Bangladesh to beat Pakistan yesterday.
    In official ICC ODI ranking, there's not much gap between Pakistan (97 points) and Bangladesh (90 points). For nearly two years, Pakistan were behind Bangladesh in ranking. However, that has definitely changed now. Pakistan is doing better now.

    I don't think you can blame a fan if he thought BD could beat Pakistan yesterday. That expectation is due to recent performance and ranking position.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ZaudStorm View Post
    Do you have any excuses for your pathetic defeat against WI in the 1st match? Even Afghanistan gave a much better fight to them. Don't forget about the real level of your team, lost 12 consecutive matches before the WC.
    The real level is beyond your capability, even with four of the most experienced players in WCs in your team. This is what your best team and you will finish below Sri Lanka. There's a reason pretty much everyone is talking about Pakistan being deserving semi-finalists.

    Also FYI, we Pakistan fans are not happy with the level we have achieved in this WC, while for some of your pathetic fans it would have been your best performance in a WC to date.

    Bangladesh is a likeable team, but your fanbase is the most annoying in the world. Hope some of you lot have realized you don't talk smack about a team that can destroy on their top form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rellu_Katta View Post
    although i think Bang are no longer pushovers, i still think they have a long long lonnng way to go to be considered a proper threat.

    1) Take out Shakib and that is it, done.... when other teams had 2/3/4 players making an impact with the bat, nothing can be said for Bang .. it was Get Saqib and win...

    2) Mustafiz over hype... before you go on how amazingly he bowled and did wonders with his 20 wickets, his wickets came when the teams had already scored big...in no game he cut the innings short by taking wickets early

    3) Fielding ..... lol the worst fielding side after WI ... Pak might have dropped more catches but bangladesh arent far off and their ground fielding was a horror show

    4) Mentality ..... you need to win big to feel big... the team and fans need to calm down and be at the levels they are ...showing off isnt going to help much
    Best post of this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    In official ICC ODI ranking, there's not much gap between Pakistan (97 points) and Bangladesh (90 points). For nearly two years, Pakistan were behind Bangladesh in ranking. However, that has definitely changed now. Pakistan is doing better now.

    I don't think you can blame a fan if he thought BD could beat Pakistan yesterday. That expectation is due to recent performance and ranking position.
    You have not been as impressive, so as to make arrogant comments about a young Pakistan team. Yes, banter is fine but don't go overboard based on four wins over a period of FOUR years.

    Also, no Pakistani fan made certain excuses about batting first in the Asia Cup. We all know Bangladesh was chasing squat that day, but we accepted our team's shortcomings and congratulated Bangladesh on a really good victory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    You have not been as impressive, so as to make arrogant comments about a young Pakistan team. Yes, banter is fine but don't go overboard based on four wins over a period of FOUR years.

    Also, no Pakistani fan made certain excuses about batting first in the Asia Cup. We all know Bangladesh was chasing squat that day, but we accepted our team's shortcomings and congratulated Bangladesh on a really good victory.
    When did I make arrogant comment? I always try to be as balanced as possible.

    I also congratulated Pakistan on their victory.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    BD went to Asia Cup final without Tamim and Shakib. So, Shakib is not everything in our team. However, he is definitely the main player.

    I kind of disagree with your Mustafiz assessment. He normally doesn't do well with the new ball. He is an old ball bowler. He is our death overs specialist. I think he did reasonably well with death overs.

    I agree with you over fielding. Our fielding has been absolutely horrible. I don't know what fielding coach is doing but fielding quality went downhill.

    Regarding fans, fans will be fans. Some fans will be arrogant and some will be diplomatic. Some will be outright delusional. That's how subcontinental fans are.
    do not agree there bro.... Asia Cup was just a wierd one ... i know you are going to say it doesnt matter to BD what the other team pick n play but tht was significantly strange tournament ..

    As far as Tamim goes, probably it was a good thing he wasnt there lol .. he is way past his expiration date and should have quit a year ago

    Problem is that i agree that Mustafiz is a death bowler and of the best around but tht leave the whole 30 initial overs fully exposed... and even for his 5ers in last 2 games, he went for 60 n 75 runs for his 5er.... now this would have been amazing if some1 else had picked wickets at front but because they didnt, 320 odd runs were scored easily

    as for the fans, unfortunatly i havent seen that delusional fans for any team... i am generalizing but u cant just boast being special toppers without nothing to show in trophy cabenit ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    The real level is beyond your capability, even with four of the most experienced players in WCs in your team. This is what your best team and you will finish below Sri Lanka. There's a reason pretty much everyone is talking about Pakistan being deserving semi-finalists.

    Also FYI, we Pakistan fans are not happy with the level we have achieved in this WC, while for some of your pathetic fans it would have been your best performance in a WC to date.

    Bangladesh is a likeable team, but your fanbase is the most annoying in the world. Hope some of you lot have realized you don't talk smack about a team that can destroy on their top form.
    Most annoying fanbase? Unlike Pakistanis, our ex players don't bring up conspiracy theories like teams losing purposefully to keep Pak out. Unlike Indians, we don't set stadiums on fire. Unlike Afghans, we don't start a war in and outside the stadium. And if Pakistan were deserving semi finalists over NZ then they should have played well from the beginning itself, i.e. the WI match. One should not expect to get an A after failing all the mid-terms and acing the finals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rellu_Katta View Post
    do not agree there bro.... Asia Cup was just a wierd one ... i know you are going to say it doesnt matter to BD what the other team pick n play but tht was significantly strange tournament ..

    As far as Tamim goes, probably it was a good thing he wasnt there lol .. he is way past his expiration date and should have quit a year ago

    Problem is that i agree that Mustafiz is a death bowler and of the best around but tht leave the whole 30 initial overs fully exposed... and even for his 5ers in last 2 games, he went for 60 n 75 runs for his 5er.... now this would have been amazing if some1 else had picked wickets at front but because they didnt, 320 odd runs were scored easily

    as for the fans, unfortunatly i havent seen that delusional fans for any team... i am generalizing but u cant just boast being special toppers without nothing to show in trophy cabenit ...
    Disagree with your Tamim assessment. He is out of form but he is the best we have for opening position. He is 30 years old and probably still has at least 6 years in him.

    Mustafiz is the best we have for death overs. Other option is Saifuddin who is still quite raw. Rest are not worth mentioning.

    Don't think fans have to feel inferior. At the end of the day, it is just a game. Whether BD wins 100 trophies or gets relegated to Division 5, I don't think it changes anyone's life. However, I agree with you that some fans go overboard and they have to calm down a bit.

    Also, every team played full-strength side in Asia Cup except for India.
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    They are a couple of world class players short, but they are no minnows anymore. That they finished above the likes of SA and WI isn't actually a huge shock. You can see how much their mentality has changed

    1) They now expect to win

    One thing that striked me when they beat South Africa is how professional they were, they didn't do any of their stupid team celebrations, just acted professionally as if it wasn't a big deal. The Bangladesh of old, had they won, would have celebrated as if they won the whole World Cup.

    2) Their fight

    They didn't really get thrashed in any games, apart from perhaps the England game. In games such as the India game, when they would lose 1 wicket, the Bangladesh of old, would have thrown in the towel, but each batsman would just keep on fighting. Same against New Zealand, they could have just thrown in the towel during that p/ship between Williamson and Taylor but made a good game out of it

    3) No longer look like a team that bottle it in close situations

    The Bangla of old would struggle to close out games, but now they do it, sign of a good team. Remember lots of games in past where they let winning positions slip, such as that WT20 game against India. Now they are very professional in doing so. Remember that chase against WI, they could have lost 1 wicket and collapsed badly, but despite a little stutter in the middle, they still cruised home in a big chase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    The real level is beyond your capability, even with four of the most experienced players in WCs in your team. This is what your best team and you will finish below Sri Lanka. There's a reason pretty much everyone is talking about Pakistan being deserving semi-finalists.

    Also FYI, we Pakistan fans are not happy with the level we have achieved in this WC, while for some of your pathetic fans it would have been your best performance in a WC to date.

    Bangladesh is a likeable team, but your fanbase is the most annoying in the world. Hope some of you lot have realized you don't talk smack about a team that can destroy on their top form.
    There arent that many Bangladeshi fans on this forum to be honest. Few are Indian Bengali pretending to be Bangladeshi so they can banter you guys.

    As for fanbase, there are arrogant and silly fans from both sides. Forget fans, your very own players makes claims like India is scared of playing against us. After performance during first half of the tournament i.e after losing against India Sarfaraz was scared to even go back home to Pakistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZaudStorm View Post
    Most annoying fanbase? Unlike Pakistanis, our ex players don't bring up conspiracy theories like teams losing purposefully to keep Pak out. Unlike Indians, we don't set stadiums on fire. Unlike Afghans, we don't start a war in and outside the stadium. And if Pakistan were deserving semi finalists over NZ then they should have played well from the beginning itself, i.e. the WI match. One should not expect to get an A after failing all the mid-terms and acing the finals.
    Lol. You attacked the WI team bus with stones when your team folded for 50 against them in the 2011 world cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDfanforever View Post
    There arent that many Bangladeshi fans on this forum to be honest. Few are Indian Bengali pretending to be Bangladeshi so they can banter you guys.
    Truth be told, there were a lot of fans till a few days back. They are nowhere to be seen now.

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    I think Bangladesh have a great chance of making the semis in this WC, but for now their fans needs to lower their expectations.

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    BD's performance was fairly pedestrian, along expected lines. Their fans claim BD to be the 2nd best Asian side but their performance belies that claim. They still have to catch up to Pakistan first. Shakib was the only standout from that team in this WC

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    Disappointing WC. Only SA win was special. We expect to beat WI. Shak is an ATG but the rest are nothing of note.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AamchiMumbaikar View Post
    Take Babar n imam out
    Take Rohit n Kohli out
    Take finch n Warner out
    Take Kane n Ross out

    All are mediocre then
    You are mentioning two players from every side. Bangladesh only have one who they are so dependant on.


    PP's own self proclaimed sharpshooter and defender of Islam and Pakistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDfanforever View Post
    There arent that many Bangladeshi fans on this forum to be honest. Few are Indian Bengali pretending to be Bangladeshi so they can banter you guys.

    As for fanbase, there are arrogant and silly fans from both sides. Forget fans, your very own players makes claims like India is scared of playing against us. After performance during first half of the tournament i.e after losing against India Sarfaraz was scared to even go back home to Pakistan.
    There have been numerous arrogant fans, specially that 'esteemed' poster who wastes no time in taking digs at Pakistan, while proclaiming Bangladesh cricket and its system as the Holy Grail. The arrogance was mind-numbing when he claimed one day before the match, that he expects Pakistan to lose to Bangladesh. Let's hear the excuses now.

    I can bring up what he wrote about Pakistan right after our Asia Cup match, and you yourself will be disgusted at the over-reaction and kind words. Things will get pretty ugly, so let's just wait for 'larr ke lenge' drivel that he comes up with now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    When did I make arrogant comment? I always try to be as balanced as possible.

    I also congratulated Pakistan on their victory.
    Not you in specific, and I'm sure there are humble Bangladeshi fans around like yourself.

    I have an issue with the 'larr ke lenge' idiots who give your lot a bad name.

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    Haha intact the false hope of progression even bursted if SA wins today which is likely then Bdesh will finish just above the mighty WI and AFG the two qualifiers


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    Bangladesh have got their first Hall of Famer through this world cup. His name is Shakib Al Hasan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kianig89 View Post
    Haha intact the false hope of progression even bursted if SA wins today which is likely then Bdesh will finish just above the mighty WI and AFG the two qualifiers
    South Africa is better than BD. I will not complain if they go ahead of us.

    What surprises me is how SL is ahead of us by 1 point. They had two washouts against Pakistan and BD and they should've lost both games. I believe even Afghanistan is better than SL and SL deserves to be at the bottom of the table.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    South Africa is better than BD. I will not complain if they go ahead of us.

    What surprises me is how SL is ahead of us by 1 point. They had two washouts against Pakistan and BD and they should've lost both games. I believe even Afghanistan is better than SL and SL deserves to be at the bottom of the table.
    This thread is about Bdesh and their false rise Sl demise is for another day


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    If Hafeez can get two hundreds in a game anyone can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kianig89 View Post
    This thread is about Bdesh and their false rise Sl demise is for another day
    Only a blind hater would call it a false rise. Anyway. No worries.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    Only a blind hater would call it a false rise. Anyway. No worries.
    New ball bowlers failed Quality spinner failed Finishers failed fielding failed

    Apart from Shakib there was nothing to ride about


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kianig89 View Post
    Haha intact the false hope of progression even bursted if SA wins today which is likely then Bdesh will finish just above the mighty WI and AFG the two qualifiers
    No one will remember these 5-10 seedings. RSA will still be considered a top sides.

    In 2007 Ind didn't even make it past group stage, same with Eng in 2015. However, following subsequent year they became way stronger.

    Teams progress is seen basically through ranking system. No point in BD finishing 5 then go on a 10 losing streaks. I will also be happy if they finish 8th so appropriate changes are made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BDfanforever View Post
    No one will remember these 5-10 seedings. RSA will still be considered a top sides.

    In 2007 Ind didn't even make it past group stage, same with Eng in 2015. However, following subsequent year they became way stronger.

    Teams progress is seen basically through ranking system. No point in BD finishing 5 then go on a 10 losing streaks. I will also be happy if they finish 8th so appropriate changes are made.
    Bdesh need quality players and sensational talents players like Shakib and Fizz attest 3-4 players


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    If Hafeez can get two hundreds in a game anyone can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kianig89 View Post
    This thread is about Bdesh and their false rise Sl demise is for another day
    If you see even at U19 level BD is now competing well which shows young players are coming through. Yes I havent seen many promising pacers other than 1 or 2 which are coming from U19 but there are some solid batsmen and decent spinners.

    They are competing well and on their day are beating teams as well which is much better position than they were a 6-7 years ago.

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    Won 3 matches out of 9 in WC , all against bottom teams. For any other team it would have very been disappointing result but quite good for a team like BD, not even that was expected from them.

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    I dont blame others. They are regarded as minnow sub conciously and hence any fight that they show, people praise because it is an over achievement for a minnow team. The same way as we praise another team such as AFG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    If you see even at U19 level BD is now competing well which shows young players are coming through. Yes I havent seen many promising pacers other than 1 or 2 which are coming from U19 but there are some solid batsmen and decent spinners.

    They are competing well and on their day are beating teams as well which is much better position than they were a 6-7 years ago.
    Summary.... Competing but losing.

    All the stars must be aligned in proper way to make it THEIR day and somehow beat the opposition.

    Thats what a minnow requires.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moghul View Post
    Won 3 matches out of 9 in WC , all against bottom teams. For any other team it would have very been disappointing result but quite good for a team like BD, not even that was expected from them.
    South Africa is a bottom team? News to me.

    South Africa had a bad tournament. But, they are still a force in ODI.



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    Shakib is 32 , so not sure how good the future looks


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    Quote Originally Posted by BDfanforever View Post
    No one will remember these 5-10 seedings. RSA will still be considered a top sides.

    In 2007 Ind didn't even make it past group stage, same with Eng in 2015. However, following subsequent year they became way stronger.

    Teams progress is seen basically through ranking system. No point in BD finishing 5 then go on a 10 losing streaks. I will also be happy if they finish 8th so appropriate changes are made.
    That was 12 years ago and look at how the Indians have rebuilt and where they are now. Can you say the same for BD?

    You have it the other way around, team progress is not based of the ranking system but the ranking system is based on team performance. You perform well consistently and you get ranked higher. One off wins, here and there, are not the sign of a great side.

    If BD continues to perform the way it is, it can expect to be at the ottom rung of the rankings with AFG (for now)

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    Quote Originally Posted by fitCricFan View Post
    That was 12 years ago and look at how the Indians have rebuilt and where they are now. Can you say the same for BD?

    You have it the other way around, team progress is not based of the ranking system but the ranking system is based on team performance. You perform well consistently and you get ranked higher. One off wins, here and there, are not the sign of a great side.

    If BD continues to perform the way it is, it can expect to be at the ottom rung of the rankings with AFG (for now)
    Looks like you haven't checked ODI ranking table in a while: http://www.espncricinfo.com/rankings...ge/211271.html.

    Your comment would've made sense 5 years ago.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    Looks like you haven't checked ODI ranking table in a while: http://www.espncricinfo.com/rankings...ge/211271.html.

    Your comment would've made sense 5 years ago.
    Well no, it makes perfect sense now as well. The table you mentioned is nothing to be proud of.

    In tests, BD is ranked 2nd last and in the ODI's BD is still below Pak & SA. WI's have regressed as well so no credit to BD for being ranked above them


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