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    Carey must be hurting he has to keep as well


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    If Hafeez can get two hundreds in a game anyone can.

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    200 should be winning score here.


    It is either a heartache or a headache ..Argh relationships.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnaveen1980 View Post
    He gets into ungetouttable mode. He is very close to Dhoni in that regard. Finds a way to survive. He may not be flamebuoyant. But a survivor.

    More like Steve Waugh than Dhoni.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Gomes View Post
    Australians are aliens in World Cup, as close as to we will find a superhuman group.
    True no matter how they perform in bilateral but everytime there is World Cup you can bet your house they will endup in Final.

    Australia played 7 World Cup Finals out of the 11 and won 5 of them...


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    270 is match winning score here


    Quote Originally Posted by Arsal_AK View Post
    If Hafeez can get two hundreds in a game anyone can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakhs View Post
    Against Australia i would have played another spinner.
    Australia batted very well against Chahal & Kuldeep. 117 from 114 balls with the loss of Maxwell and Warner, and warner was troubled mainly by seamers. Hopefully Aussies can bash Rashid


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    Smith is an improved version of Dhoni, hard to dismiss but can still get singles.

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    Female commies


    Quote Originally Posted by Arsal_AK View Post
    If Hafeez can get two hundreds in a game anyone can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    More like Steve Waugh than Dhoni.
    They are all the same. In terms of funky technique closer to Dhoni. Surviving is a skill. Not everybody is good at it. Kohli is a very poor survivor.

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    Smith is looking more fluent than Carey!!!!

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    Four by Smith.

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    Donald you fool shpuld have ran


    Quote Originally Posted by Arsal_AK View Post
    If Hafeez can get two hundreds in a game anyone can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnaveen1980 View Post
    They are all the same. In terms of funky technique closer to Dhoni. Surviving is a skill. Not everybody is good at it. Kohli is a very poor survivor.
    Smith had to work incredibly hard to find a technique to survive. Once he found that , he was always going to be unstoppable.

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    Had Donald completed a single who knows Pak might have won against SAF


    Quote Originally Posted by Arsal_AK View Post
    If Hafeez can get two hundreds in a game anyone can.

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    Lol at Indians comparing Smith with Dhoni.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WebGuru View Post
    True no matter how they perform in bilateral but everytime there is World Cup you can bet your house they will endup in Final.

    Australia played 7 World Cup Finals out of the 11 and won 5 of them...
    Well Bilateral ODIs lost their prestige ever since T20 WC and leagues were introduced, now ODI WC is even more prestigious than ever. And Australia knows their priority. They have a shortage of talent in this WC but the talented ones are playing like GOATs (Starc especially)

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    Another 200 needed

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    Come the big day, Steven Smith showing who he is.

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    In 92 why was there no reserve day ?

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    Smith is so clutch unlike Fake macho man Kohli who wants change in WC formats

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kianig89 View Post
    how far have Eng progressed from the likes of Strauss Trott etal
    You mean as in not having a decent test top three since?

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    Excellent shot by Smith.

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    England slowly losing the plot. Anything over 240 will be hell to chase for England. Australian bowlers are ruthless and England is the most collapse prone team in the WC.

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    You gotta love the fighting spirit by the Aussies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Lol at Indians comparing Smith with Dhoni.
    Smith is a bang average batsman in one dayers in terms of overall career. Even in this world cup he was averaging 32 until this match.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Lol at Indians comparing Smith with Dhoni.
    Smith is what Dhoni wished he was lol

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    Is it just me or are the commies and crowd way to quiet. The atmosphere is of that of a dead rubber bilateral not a SF between Australia and England.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Smith had to work incredibly hard to find a technique to survive. Once he found that , he was always going to be unstoppable.
    How does that make sense?
    How was he always gonna be unstoppable?
    When we first saw him everyone wrote him off.

    It took him years of practise to get to where he is.

    He never looked unstoppable in 2010. Even with that technique.
    Its a change in mind set, on top of the crazy amount of time he put into practise.

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    Aus target should be to get around 50-60 runs in next 12 overs and reach 120-130 runs in 30 overs. Then move on from there

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    Seeing Smith bat makes me scared for the Australia vs Pakistan series at the end of this year...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mueez View Post
    You gotta love the fighting spirit by the Aussies.
    Yeah and how many times in Tests and ODI’s have we seen Smith do this.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jnaveen1980 View Post
    Smith is a bang average batsman in one dayers in terms of overall career. Even in this world cup he was averaging 32 until this match.
    TBH Australians don't really care about bilateral ODIs, they regular feature their 3rd rate team whenever possible. Starc misses like 75% of the bilaterals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Gomes View Post
    Well Bilateral ODIs lost their prestige ever since T20 WC and leagues were introduced, now ODI WC is even more prestigious than ever. And Australia knows their priority. They have a shortage of talent in this WC but the talented ones are playing like GOATs (Starc especially)
    Starc and Smith are replicating the performances of McGrath and Ponting by performing in back to back World Cups


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    Aussies showing why they are 5-time champions. Born fighters!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnaveen1980 View Post
    Smith is a bang average batsman in one dayers in terms of overall career. Even in this world cup he was averaging 32 until this match.
    Sometimes we an use common sense to know who is better than just relying on stats etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnaveen1980 View Post
    Smith is a bang average batsman in one dayers in terms of overall career. Even in this world cup he was averaging 32 until this match.
    Lol he averages over 40.

    The problem is you expect him to be as good in ODIs as he is in tests which is unlikely. He is still a very good ODI player.

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    This Australian team is not a great team but Australians always put up a fight.If Australia score 250+ then England will be under pressure and who knows the chase may become tricky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QalandarFan View Post
    Yeah and how many times in Tests and ODI’s have we seen Smith do this.
    Forgotten the count lol

    Smith is a true fighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mueez View Post
    Seeing Smith bat makes me scared for the Australia vs Pakistan series at the end of this year...
    Bruh I donít even watch when heís batting in Tests against us heís like a machine just stays out there. An average of 61 in tests is insane! Ate our bowers alive last time there too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir-fraz View Post
    How does that make sense?
    How was he always gonna be unstoppable?
    When we first saw him everyone wrote him off.

    It took him years of practise to get to where he is.

    He never looked unstoppable in 2010. Even with that technique.
    Its a change in mind set, on top of the crazy amount of time he put into practise.

    Because he had the tempremeant and mentality. His main issue was his technique. Once that was sorted , he was always going to be a good player.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakhs View Post
    Sometimes we an use common sense to know who is better than just relying on stats etc
    Dhoni won a world cup final man of the match. lol You have so many borrowed heroes since the days of Lara, Ponting, Amla to put down Indian players. Still unsuccessful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Gomes View Post
    Smith is what Dhoni wished he was lol

    Smith is scoring in 3 formats and in all conditions. Dhoni best format is ODIs and is batting in the middle order. Completely different players.

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    Even Careys full head bandage has blood on it now! This is an incredible effort . . I am so impressed by Carey in this tournament . . The guy is a proper fighter and bats when Australia really needs him to!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Lol he averages over 40.

    The problem is you expect him to be as good in ODIs as he is in tests which is unlikely. He is still a very good ODI player.
    His career average 41 is very very poor in this era.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnaveen1980 View Post
    Smith is a bang average batsman in one dayers in terms of overall career. Even in this world cup he was averaging 32 until this match.
    If you really believe this then stop watching cricket on TV just look at stats on internet.

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    All class from Carey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Gomes View Post
    TBH Australians don't really care about bilateral ODIs, they regular feature their 3rd rate team whenever possible. Starc misses like 75% of the bilaterals.
    T20’s is even more extreme Starc’s played like 1 T20 in the past 5 years and it seems like Hazelwood has retired from that form too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WebGuru View Post
    Starc and Smith are replicating the performances of McGrath and Ponting by performing in back to back World Cups
    Oh yeah. Smith isn't as good as Ponting but Starc might actually be the GOAT ODI bowler of all time. 20 bowling average in this flat pitch era!!

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    This is the advantage of batting first, opposition is not as intense while defending the total right through the match. Also batsmen don't feel the pressure after some time. Australia is gradually wresting the initiative. England may have to kiss good bye to their hopes of winning the world cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Because he had the tempremeant and mentality. His main issue was his technique. Once that was sorted , he was always going to be a good player.
    I think there is a massive difference between unstoppable and good player.

    No one thought he was going to be a good player in 2010.
    He came in as a spinner, but was a batsman.

    Hindsight 20/20

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnaveen1980 View Post
    His career average 41 is very very poor in this era.
    Since 2015 he has been a good ODI player. Before that he was a very different player as well all know. He was batting usually down the order so those stats aren't what they look like.

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    England under pressure

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    Quote Originally Posted by QalandarFan View Post
    Yeah and how many times in Tests and ODI’s have we seen Smith do this.
    I think Imam will give him tough fight during the series.

    He has his limits but he is mentally very strong.

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    Alex Carey averages 67 against spin bowling.Get him out already. He is looking dangerous already

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobashir View Post
    If you really believe this then stop watching cricket on TV just look at stats on internet.
    Stats don't lie. He wasn't really setting this world cup alive until this match. Your belief is based on 'certain things' lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sir-fraz View Post
    I think there is a massive difference between unstoppable and good player.

    No one thought he was going to be a good player in 2010.
    He came in as a spinner, but was a batsman.

    Hindsight 20/20

    I always thought he would be a good player if he sorted his technique out. Didn't expect him to be like this but always thought he could be a good player for Australia.

    Character and mentality are just as important as technique.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Smith is scoring in 3 formats and in all conditions. Dhoni best format is ODIs and is batting in the middle order. Completely different players.
    I mean in terms of capability. Dhoni can stick around but he struggles to take singles. Anyway I don't wanna demean Dhoni now, WC is over for India and he did ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NauV View Post
    Even Careys full head bandage has blood on it now! This is an incredible effort . . I am so impressed by Carey in this tournament . . The guy is a proper fighter and bats when Australia really needs him to!
    Also Australian management should be given credit who realized his incredible temperament and they made him vice captain even before he has played even 30 ODIs.

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    If i were an English fan i would get nervous. STarc, Cummins, Beherendoff - 180 balls from them !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Gomes View Post
    TBH Australians don't really care about bilateral ODIs, they regular feature their 3rd rate team whenever possible. Starc misses like 75% of the bilaterals.
    This is when you can have epic battles against Kane Richardson, Tye, Boland, Faulkner and come on top and be called the GOAT.

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    Fun fact: Alex Carey’s full name is “Alex Tyson Carey”

    And he is truly showing the Tyson part of his name by getting such a blow and still fighting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnaveen1980 View Post
    If i were an English fan i would get nervous. STarc, Cummins, Beherendoff - 180 balls from them !
    I doubt English batsmen have the technique to cope with these three guys on this pitch.

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    Australia has plenty of time to score 250. 60/40 to Australia now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobashir View Post
    This is when you can have epic battles against Kane Richardson, Tye, Boland, Faulkner and come on top and be called the GOAT.
    He scored 80 in this world cup against Australia. Smashed Starc all over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnaveen1980 View Post
    Dhoni won a world cup final man of the match. lol You have so many borrowed heroes since the days of Lara, Ponting, Amla to put down Indian players. Still unsuccessful.
    Which Indian player i put down? I think Smith is a better batsmen for all conditions in all format. And if you dont agree you are either biased or don't understand cricket fully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mueez View Post
    I think Imam will give him tough fight during the series.

    He has his limits but he is mentally very strong.
    Babar for all my money already played there once so expecting him to come good this time around. Imam is still finding his feet in Tests. Babar has been a beast in Tests too in the last year for us. Just need to send up the order to #3/4.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mueez View Post
    I doubt English batsmen have the technique to cope with these three guys on this pitch.
    They rely on their crash bang wallop approach. If they do it will be a quick death like India.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QalandarFan View Post
    Is it just me or are the commies and crowd way to quiet. The atmosphere is of that of a dead rubber bilateral not a SF between Australia and England.
    They are absorbed by the match.

    By the England innings the beer will kick in and noise levels increase.

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    Man Australia milking the bowling for fun now. England must be very nervous.

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    This is a common thing i notice with teams that field first. They are so intense in the first 10 or 15 overs. They tend to let the game drift. INdia did that yesterday. But when you field second you are focused fully for the entire duration of 50 overs and you pay attention field set every over. Something you don't do when you field first. That is exactly what happening. ENgland is letting the game drift.
    Last edited by jnaveen1980; 11th July 2019 at 16:44.

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    india was a flawed team. So our exit was no surprise. if England exits today, all hell will break loose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QalandarFan View Post
    Babar for all my money already played there once so expecting him to come good this time around. Imam is still finding his feet in Tests. Babar has been a beast in Tests too in the last year for us. Just need to send up the order to #3/4.
    Yeah I feel like Babar will take his game to another level because of his century against NZ.

    Letís see what happens.

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    If Australia can score 5 runs an over from here, they will get to 250.

    What a recovery.

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    Carey is playing a different type of innings to what he has played earlier in the tournament.

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    England is just letting the game get away.. Australia will dictate this game if they get to 250 thereabouts. What a masterstroke to send the promising Carey at 3 down! The Aussies surely know how to identify talent and importantly seize big moments.

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    Shot.

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    Worst English bowler is Rashid

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnaveen1980 View Post
    india was a flawed team. So our exit was no surprise. if England exits today, all hell will break loose.
    How so? Australia were favourites even before the match. Finch and Warner flopping was a surprise even.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ram Shekhar View Post
    England is just letting the game get away.. Australia will dictate this game if they get to 250 thereabouts. What a masterstroke to send the promising Carey at 3 down! The Aussies surely know how to identify talent and importantly seize big moments.
    When Tendulkar was yesterday asked about the most impressive player of the tournament he said "Alex carey. but he is batting too low"

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnaveen1980 View Post
    They rely on their crash bang wallop approach. If they do it will be a quick death like India.
    Wonder what excuses there will be if England loses the match...


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