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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theo_14 View Post
    Yes really.

    You got Defenders and Goalkeepers becoming coaches. Have they all used defensive players in their playing 11? Have they ALL used formations which consists of 5 defenders at the back? No.

    Why would Misbah encourage his players to be defensive in a T20 or ODI format knowing such philosophy won’t work in modern day cricket? Please use your common sense and look at the wider picture.
    I thought we are looking for a coach for our cricket team, not a soccer team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    So Misbah was part of the committee that sacked Mickey and now wants that job - strange.
    I told you, this guy is selfish, just thinks of himself, not Pakistan cricket, ever.

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    Misbah was extremely defensive player & Captain, but that doesnít mean heíll be defensive as coach as well. In that route, I donít think we can down play him. There are several coaches who were quite defensive as player but their team played aggressive, positive game. Coaching is a different job than playing or leading.

    I didnít like the idea simply because I donít think there is anyone in PAK capable/qualified enough to be the head coach of national team - my choice of head coach these days are Graham Ford, Mike Hessen, Tom Moody, Trevor Blyiss, Hathurasinghe .... therefore itís obvious that I hardly consider playing career as an input for choosing the coach.

    If PCB decides to appoint a local head coach - Misbah is multiple times better than the other usual names. He has the right education, attitude, experience (in PCT culture) & work ethics to be successful. But, I would recommend foreigners for Head Coach, Batting Coach & Fielding Coach for PCT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moghul View Post
    I thought we are looking for a coach for our cricket team, not a soccer team.
    And your point is? The game is the game. Point is, defensive minded players will have different philosophies as head coaches.

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    Probably better if Misbah tries out for batting coach role.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Probably better if Misbah tries out for batting coach role.
    Yes, our ODI and T20 teams are losing the art of playing Tuk Tuk cricket

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    Quote Originally Posted by moghul View Post
    Yes, our ODI and T20 teams are losing the art of playing Tuk Tuk cricket
    I’m creasing

    On a serious note strike rates will decline if Misbah is anywhere near the white ball teams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    How is he the 'best' option when he hasn't been coach of any professional team in his life, yet?

    Are the alternatives peasants?

    He is definitely a better option than Mohsin Khan, though.
    Thanks for standing up against falsehood.

    Misbah is better option than Mohsin Khan, which is why I would have no issues if he coaches at domestic level first to prove his worth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
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    If PCB decides to appoint a local head coach - Misbah is multiple times better than the other usual names. He has the right education, attitude, experience (in PCT culture) & work ethics to be successful. But, I would recommend foreigners for Head Coach, Batting Coach & Fielding Coach for PCT.
    I see the appeal of foreigners as a head coach, and it would've been the best option if a candidate like Misbah wasn't in the running.

    Our local choices are woeful, but with Misbah things can be excellent.

    Ravi Shastri was appointed IND coach without any credentials and Misbah will do miles better than Ravi if he applies and gets the job.

    Apart from excellent leadership and strategy skills, I think the ease of communication, local language and understanding of the domestic circuit will help heaps.

    Can also see us winning Test matches again, which we've forgotten how to do after he left. Art of defending scores in Lois can also resurface.

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    I think any player or person should be domestic coaches first and be evaluated on their abiity in domestic before considering them for International.

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    If this happens, I'll have to tune out of Pak cricket for the next four years. Wouldn't be able to handle the frustration of watching Misbah lead us down to 8-9 again in ODI rankings.

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    Why does PakPassion hate Misbah so much? Everyone I know in my family loves him, people on Reddit love him, etc. When I first joined PP, I was really surprised to see the amount of Misbah bashing,

    Also, what's @Mamoon 's opinion on Misbah as a captain and player? Never seen his take on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyWarsFan View Post
    Why does PakPassion hate Misbah so much? Everyone I know in my family loves him, people on Reddit love him, etc. When I first joined PP, I was really surprised to see the amount of Misbah bashing,

    Also, what's @Mamoon 's opinion on Misbah as a captain and player? Never seen his take on it.
    Ignore the trolls.

    Well-respected throughout the world and in the PCB. One of the classiest guys we've had and one of our most successful captains, and one who always lead from the front.

    Anonymous hate-filled internet posters do not mean anything. Ignore.
    Last edited by Hawkeye; 12th August 2019 at 02:03.

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    It will be a disaster making shameless misbah the coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    Ignore the trolls.

    Well-respected throughout the world and in the PCB. One of the classiest guys we've had and one of our most successful captains, and one who always lead from the front.

    Anonymous hate-filled internet posters do not mean anything. Ignore.
    Yeah he was great specially considering he even lost a test match against Zimbabwe. Takes some doing that. People don't like him due to many apparent reasons which are well documented. Only his blind fans fans seem to miss then. Before getting the job shameless misbah should stop playing cricket.

    Eye for talent misbah benched Babar when he was at islamabad and recommended azhar all as captain when he wouldn't pick up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyWarsFan View Post
    Why does PakPassion hate Misbah so much? Everyone I know in my family loves him, people on Reddit love him, etc. When I first joined PP, I was really surprised to see the amount of Misbah bashing,

    Also, what's @Mamoon 's opinion on Misbah as a captain and player? Never seen his take on it.
    People passionate with cricket and who put Pakistan cricket first than personal liking hate Misbah for his selfishness and negative influence on Pakistan team. Some of the people who don't understand cricket like Misbah for whatever ( non-cricketing ) reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khan12 View Post
    Yeah he was great specially considering he even lost a test match against Zimbabwe. Takes some doing that. People don't like him due to many apparent reasons which are well documented. Only his blind fans fans seem to miss then. Before getting the job shameless misbah should stop playing cricket.

    Eye for talent misbah benched Babar when he was at islamabad and recommended azhar all as captain when he wouldn't pick up.
    Sarfraz has been much better than Misbah as a test captain (sarcasm)

    I have seen so many pictures of Misbah attending coaching and training centres within Pakistan since he retired that you can see he has kept a link and hasn’t just become a pundit
    He’s obviously now got the badges and the network
    Can’t see why he shouldn’t be first pick as new coach


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    Not in favor of a local coach but Misbah will be still 10 times better than other local coaches.

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    Misbah's LOI credentials arent that great but we have taken not so good players and made them coaches - atleast he has the Test performances to be considered.


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    Has Misbah even got any coach qualifications as of yet?

    As far as I have heard he has been playing around still despite retiring a few years back and most probably will still play next year's PSL.

    Same goes for Younis Khan as well, I do not think these 2 will be able to get much far with the players as they are recently retired and have played with the majority of them and knowing our players they hardly listen to their own kind.

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    Hahah people saying Misbah is the best coach in Pakistan.

    Mohammad Wasim (PTV coach) is one of the top coaches in Pakistan and has been with international teams like Netherlands too.


    Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Misbah's LOI credentials arent that great but we have taken not so good players and made them coaches - atleast he has the Test performances to be considered.
    So, with this logic , we should make Misbah coach whenever there is a test at UAE and for tests anywhere else and for white ball cricket we appoint some qualified coach. Misbah was good only for tests at UAE, where most of his success was due to chuckers like Saeed Ajmal and Hafeez.

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    One of the greatest cricketing minds in our country. Totally deserves this position. Hope he is appointed soon. Will turn the team around for the better.




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    Quote Originally Posted by moghul View Post
    Misbah was a defensive player, a very defensive captain, but for some strange reason he will not be a defensive coach, really ?
    Coaching is a different job than being a player. Do we know Mickey Arther was an attacking player? He never even played international cricket and averaged 33 and 26 in FC and List A respectively. Gary Kirsten was also a pretty defensive player but is one of the best coaches around the world.

    I am not saying that Misbah should be the coach or not just saying that judging someoneís coaching potential from his playing days is not correct.

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    Don't think Misbah has the qualifications to be coach, would not be a good appointment imo


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    He is not qualified as a coach either an extraordinary technician so what is the point of appointing him as head coach? I think we are a lousy LOI team due to two extremes we had between him and Shahid Afridi.

    I don't think Misbah will add any value to our cricketing setup as head coach. He should be used more in NCA or betterment of domestic cricket since he is aware of the problems and always advocated it.


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    I think the doubts about Misbah in LOI should be more warranted with his captaincy win/loss record rather than his batting. As people said just because he was a defensive player himself, doesn't mean he'll coach the same way. And Misbah was capable of hitting big, he just chose not to do it a lot of the time, and probably decreased that aspect of his game with age.

    His win/loss record in ODIs is really awful though. I get he didn't have the players, Sarfraz for example has a clearly superior crop. But still he's captain, and it could well be that his captaincy was a factor into leading to that W/L ratio. Hence it's a risk. Misbah in general looked far more settled in tests.

    However Misbah generally restricted teams to lower totals. Might just because he had ajmal and Hafeez, but he did. And honestly those defensive captains that dry up the runs I think work best in LOI, it's difficult to have that stroke of genius in ODIs, most wickets are got through run pressure and mistakes. Kohli is a far more aggressive captain than Dhoni who's defensive, yet it's Dhoni who has the trophies, not Kohli.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyWarsFan View Post
    Why does PakPassion hate Misbah so much? Everyone I know in my family loves him, people on Reddit love him, etc. When I first joined PP, I was really surprised to see the amount of Misbah bashing,

    Also, what's @Mamoon 's opinion on Misbah as a captain and player? Never seen his take on it.
    I tend to avoid discussing Misbah because it is very difficult to have a purpose discussion, because both his fan club and hate club go overboard.

    I believe the reality is somewhere in the middle - he was a decent player and captain who was set in his ways and had to compensate for a very ugly era in Pakistan cricket. He was an important figure for a weak team but a hindrance for a strong one.

    As far as his coaching credentials are concerned, in my opinion, he needs to prove himself in domestic cricket/PSL or junior cricket first. The transition from player to coach should not happen at the international level, and such an experiment hasnít worked for Pakistan in the past (Miandad, Waqar).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khan12 View Post
    Yeah he was great specially considering he even lost a test match against Zimbabwe. Takes some doing that. People don't like him due to many apparent reasons which are well documented. Only his blind fans fans seem to miss then. Before getting the job shameless misbah should stop playing cricket.

    Eye for talent misbah benched Babar when he was at islamabad and recommended azhar all as captain when he wouldn't pick up.
    Very well pointed out.

    A lot of PPers forget the away Zimbabwe series in 2013, which was embarrassing to say the least. After losing every game in the CT (later that year), Misbah's time was up but no Pakistan decided to reward his incompetence with another four years of captaincy.

    If he was truly a noble and the respected figure (as he's portrayed by his fan club), he would have retired.

    He had no business continuing his ODI career following his Mohali knock and given the fact that white ball cricket was rapidly evolving in the early 2010s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    I tend to avoid discussing Misbah because it is very difficult to have a purpose discussion, because both his fan club and hate club go overboard.

    I believe the reality is somewhere in the middle - he was a decent player and captain who was set in his ways and had to compensate for a very ugly era in Pakistan cricket. He was an important figure for a weak team but a hindrance for a strong one.

    As far as his coaching credentials are concerned, in my opinion, he needs to prove himself in domestic cricket/PSL or junior cricket first. The transition from player to coach should not happen at the international level, and such an experiment hasnít worked for Pakistan in the past (Miandad, Waqar).
    The hate is not overboard, it's very much warranted for the damage he's done to Pakistan cricket. I respect Misbah inherited the captaincy of a Pakistan team, which was at its lowest reputation. He was very much needed at the time and I salute him for leading the team dignity, but after the abject display in the 2013 CT and the drawn series in Zimbabwe earlier in the year his time up and he should have called it a day after leading the team through a rocky period in Pakistan cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarfiBabarHaris View Post
    Hahah people saying Misbah is the best coach in Pakistan.

    Mohammad Wasim (PTV coach) is one of the top coaches in Pakistan and has been with international teams like Netherlands too.
    They ought to be reminded April's Fools was over 4 months ago.

    I agree Mohammad Wasim is one of the best coaches in Pakistan. In terms of specialists it would be Muhammad Akram (bowling coach), Mushtaq Ahmed and Saqlain (spin bowling coaches).

    Misbah might be the best coach when it comes to turning a team into a bunch of bottle jobs, following his failures in the 2007 WT20 final and 2011 WC semi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    I see the appeal of foreigners as a head coach, and it would've been the best option if a candidate like Misbah wasn't in the running.

    Our local choices are woeful, but with Misbah things can be excellent.

    Ravi Shastri was appointed IND coach without any credentials and Misbah will do miles better than Ravi if he applies and gets the job.

    Apart from excellent leadership and strategy skills, I think the ease of communication, local language and understanding of the domestic circuit will help heaps.

    Can also see us winning Test matches again, which we've forgotten how to do after he left. Art of defending scores in Lois can also resurface.
    In other words "if it's not my hero, then yes pick the best man for the job".

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    Quote Originally Posted by topspin View Post
    Very well pointed out.

    A lot of PPers forget the away Zimbabwe series in 2013, which was embarrassing to say the least. After losing every game in the CT (later that year), Misbah's time was up but no Pakistan decided to reward his incompetence with another four years of captaincy.

    If he was truly a noble and the respected figure (as he's portrayed by his fan club), he would have retired.

    He had no business continuing his ODI career following his Mohali knock and given the fact that white ball cricket was rapidly evolving in the early 2010s.
    Agreed.
    Misbah put our cricket back by few years. Comfortably one of our worst odi batsmen ever. It's a myth that he left at the right time.

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    PM Imran Khan was the reason Mickey Arthur was sacked after it was believed he would get anywhere from 1-2 yr extension. What makes you think PM Khan will be okay with Misbah as the coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post



    Coaching is a different job than being a player. Do we know Mickey Arther was an attacking player? He never even played international cricket and averaged 33 and 26 in FC and List A respectively. Gary Kirsten was also a pretty defensive player but is one of the best coaches around the world.

    I am not saying that Misbah should be the coach or not just saying that judging someone’s coaching potential from his playing days is not correct.
    Gary Kirsten won a WC with strong Indian team in home conditions , apart from that he has nothing to show off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uberkoen View Post
    One of the greatest cricketing minds in our country. Totally deserves this position. Hope he is appointed soon. Will turn the team around for the better.
    In general, success as an individual player and then coaching has no correlation. Most coaches were average cricketers.

    Though in this case, Misbah being the one who always led from the front is an extra advantage. I think as a captain he has the best ever batting average from Pakistan. Pressure brought out the best from him.

    Already has great leadership skills. Educated, comes with no baggage, understands the domestic structure.

    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post



    Coaching is a different job than being a player. Do we know Mickey Arther was an attacking player? He never even played international cricket and averaged 33 and 26 in FC and List A respectively. Gary Kirsten was also a pretty defensive player but is one of the best coaches around the world.

    I am not saying that Misbah should be the coach or not just saying that judging someone’s coaching potential from his playing days is not correct.
    Adding to that...

    People saying "but but he has no prior head-coach experience". Sure, those who DO have experience, aren't better. E.g. Mohsin Khan, Mickey, etc.

    Although he has done a coaching course if I'm not wrong, but if someone has the right skills and aptitude, that's what matters.

    One example is Shastri who was made a coach without any prior experience, did well.

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    Misbah may be well educated, well respected etc. but anyone who followed his analysis during the World Cup would know that he's quite clueless and very low on cricketing IQ. He was a limited player , limited captain and his coaching won't be any different. Whatever success he enjoyed as skipper was down to having the likes of ajmal and hafeez bowling for him .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    Misbah may be well educated, well respected etc. but anyone who followed his analysis during the World Cup would know that he's quite clueless and very low on cricketing IQ. He was a limited player , limited captain and his coaching won't be any different. Whatever success he enjoyed as skipper was down to having the likes of ajmal and hafeez bowling for him .
    Gary Neville is one of the best pundits, his analysis of the game are on a different level. As a result of that, he was offered to be the coach of Valencia. Look what happened then.

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    I will until he is appointed by making my proper judgment. Being a coach and captain are different things. I’ll wait this one out. PP writing him off or saying he is the answer is too extreme for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theo_14 View Post
    Gary Neville is one of the best pundits, his analysis of the game are on a different level. As a result of that, he was offered to be the coach of Valencia. Look what happened then.
    Being a great people manager is the first key skill in deciding if one can be a good coach.

    Misbah is exceptional at that. How he carried the team without any controversies is a testament to that. Players respected him.

    People shouldn't give examples of Waqar etc. as they were bad leaders or managers.

    @Nikhil_cric don't go for that, it's random tv stuff, sometimes it will be amazing, other times bad, something you won't agree with and other times you won't get.

    P.s. all of this doesn't mean he will be great or bad, if he's in, let's see how it turns out.


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    Are we trying to save money here? Would rather keep Mickey

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    Really don't think Misbah would be a good coach, would much rather stick with Mickey, at least until T20 WC next year.


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    Misbah can be the coach for the test team, as it seems he knows that arena very well.

    For odi/t20, maybe we should look for a different coach.

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    It would be a gamble.

    Maybe make him coach of a domestic team or perhaps a junior team such as U16s or U19s first and see how he does.



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    no matter how great a player was, he should first get coaching experience at junior level and work his way up. I cannot support Misbah for head coach job directly.

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    🤦🏻*♂️Misbah jesa coach. Itís better to shut the team. I canít see Pakistan White ball cricket going down. Next thing we ll know is loosing to Ireland and Afghanistan because of selfish attitude. (25 balls 9 runs 1six)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    Misbah may be well educated, well respected etc. but anyone who followed his analysis during the World Cup would know that he's quite clueless and very low on cricketing IQ. He was a limited player , limited captain and his coaching won't be any different. Whatever success he enjoyed as skipper was down to having the likes of ajmal and hafeez bowling for him .
    Dada, if you ever had the good fortune of following the analysis of Moshin Khan, Javed or Qadir ........ you know.

    Again, coaching & commentary are two different job - you canít draw a conclusion based on that. Not saying that Misbah is ideal candidate, but if they go for a local incumbent - Misbah is probably the best option. At least he can do some job and deliver some output with specialist coaches who are better than Azhar or Grant, specialist captain better than Sarfraz............... put any other Deshi great in change, I am afraid first thing heíll do is instead of fixing PAK players, first fix his assistants - batting, bowling & fielding coaches.

    I donít mind WY as fast bowling coach though, while PCB should literally beg to Mushtaq or Saqline to come back and work with PAK spinners.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nitrous View Post
    Misbah can be the coach for the test team, as it seems he knows that arena very well.

    For odi/t20, maybe we should look for a different coach.
    Only in UAE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moghul View Post
    Only in UAE.
    Only one coach needed - many coaches will confuse players who play all formats of the game


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    ....dont have much knowledge on the inside of pak cricket...but what is his coaching pedigree...
    Hats off to M U H as captain, he brought a real steel and discpline to pak cricket after the spot fixing saga, real dignified sportsman ...but are these qualities enough to coach a team?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TamiL_GarvaM! View Post
    ....dont have much knowledge on the inside of pak cricket...but what is his coaching pedigree...
    Hats off to M U H as captain, he brought a real steel and discpline to pak cricket after the spot fixing saga, real dignified sportsman ...but are these qualities enough to coach a team?
    One thing that MuH can instil in this team is doggedness but then Mickey must have been doing the same as well!


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    Quote Originally Posted by TamiL_GarvaM! View Post
    ....dont have much knowledge on the inside of pak cricket...but what is his coaching pedigree...
    Hats off to M U H as captain, he brought a real steel and discpline to pak cricket after the spot fixing saga, real dignified sportsman ...but are these qualities enough to coach a team?
    Misbah's " steel and discipline" worked only n UAE, what happened when team faced some tough opponents in NZL and Australia, Misbah hardly crossed double figure in 5 tests and team lost all 5 test, white wash.

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    So camp commandant for the pre-season camp!? Dress rehearsal for his role as Head Coach?


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    So camp commandant for the pre-season camp!? Dress rehearsal for his role as Head Coach?
    Hopefully not. Shameless misbah will undo all the hard work which Mickey put in.

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    Maybe a different role like working at the NCA might be more suitable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    So camp commandant for the pre-season camp!? Dress rehearsal for his role as Head Coach?
    Seems like. Nightmare is going to become the reality soon. Sad times ahead.

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    pros and conz are in multiple

    1) very calm calculated figure... he took the team at the worst possible time and i think did an amazing job
    2) for an xcited, over-the-board, at times immature team like pak, he was almost compensating maturity for the remaining X
    3) best captain for places like dubai, WI, SL, Bang, Pak, IND where you grind the opposition out, but tests
    4) Fitness and concentration and team spirit and understanding of the game was his ultimate strenght

    Conz
    1) too soft, laid back
    2) too lean, knew certain players like Akmal brothers and Shoaib maqssod were tumors of the team but couldnt get them kicked out
    3) too old fashioned for this era of LOI cricket


    BUT ---- for a head coach, has 0 experience.. no qualification (i think level1 mayb) ... best would be to prove himself in domestic and PSL before coming over

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    the odi team has scored more 300+ more times than any in the recent past, i hope he has a plan to maintain it.

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    Pak should get Adam Gilchrist as head coach.

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    LAHORE: Pakistan’s most successful captain Misbah-ul-Haq has been tipped to play a dual role as chief selector-cum-head coach under the new model being introduced by the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB), well informed sources told Dawn on Thursday.

    In this regard a development was also seen on Thursday when the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) appointed Misbah as the camp-commandant for the pre-season training camp being held at the NCA in Lahore from Aug 22 to Sept 7.

    It is learnt that Misbah himself selected the players for the training camp and now he will also coach them so it may also be a test for him to prove his credentials for the dual role that he is likely to be assigned now.

    It may be mentioned here that in his last media talk with a small group of journalists in Lahore, managing director Wasim Khan had disclosed that the PCB is considering three models for the selection panel of the senior team; the first one is the existing one comprising of chairman and three or four members of the selection committee, the second one is to appoint a chief selector only and to give extra role to the head coaches of the six provincial teams in the domestic season who will be asked to also perform as selectors and recommend the names of talented players to chief selector, while the third model is that only one person will play dual role of chief selector and head coach to whom all the head coaches of the six provincial teams will report and give feed back about the talented players.

    Sources said that the PCB had decided to adopt the third model and it would also be helpful in making a specific authority/person accountable in case of defeats of the Pakistan team.

    It may be mentioned here that in the past, many players who had been picked up by the selectors in the Pakistan squad did not get even one match on the tour because the head coach and the captain used to have the authority to select the playing XI and overlooked certain players. And in case of defeats, the selectors and the team management would start the blame-game as none of the two parties were ready to accept the responsibility for the team’s poor show.

    In a recent such example, young paceman Muhammad Hasnain was selected in the World Cup squad for the last edition held in England and Wales and was hailed by ex-Chief Selector Inzamamul-Haq as a secret weapon. However, the team management in England did not select the fiery pacer in any match of the mega event and he returned home as a joy rider.

    Misbah, as captain of the Pakistan team, earned a good name for himself and it was under his leadership that Pakistan earned top spot in Test cricket in 2016. It must be mentioned here that Misbah took over the reins of the Pakistan team in a very difficult period when the infamous spot-fixing scandal at Lord’s in 2010 involving then skipper Salman Butt and pacers Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Amir had completely tarnished the Pakistan team’s reputation.

    Then chief selector Muhammad Ilyas had suggested Misbah’s name as captain at the time and the then chairman PCB Ijaz Butt went ahead with the bold decision by appointing the right-hander as skipper. Misbah vindicated Butt’s faith in him and took the team to dizzying heights with his cool attitude and outstanding performance on the field. He eventually ended up as the country’s best ever captain, winning 26 Test matches which is a Pakistan record.

    Though Misbah had faced criticism from some quarters for being a defensive batsman who mostly grafted his runs, the Mianwali-born player silenced his critics in 2014 by scoring a Test century off just 56 balls against Australia that equalled Sir Vivan Richards’s long standing record. He was 42 at the time and set another record in terms of being the oldest player ever to score a century in a Test against England at Lord’s.

    The PCB issued a press release about the camp on Thursday which said: “Fourteen centrally contracted and six additional cricketers have been invited to attend a pre-season camp which will commence at the National Cricket Academy (NCA) in Lahore on August 19. After two days of fitness testing, the 17-day conditioning camp will begin on 22 August and run until 7 September.

    “As the process for the appointment of the players support personnel has been initiated, former captain Misbah-ul-Haq, with the support of the NCA coaching staff, will craft the training programme and oversee the camp until the recruitment process is concluded.

    “During the pre-season camp, the players will undergo fielding drills and net sessions, along with fitness and other cricketing activities. The camp has been set up to prepare the players for a competitive and challenging domestic and international cricket season, which is expected to begin with the prestigious Quaid-e-Azam Trophy from Sept 12.

    “Apart from 31 Quaid-e-Azam Trophy first-class matches and number of domestic white ball matches in relation to the National T20 Cup and Pakistan Cup One-Day Tournament, the Pakistan cricket team is scheduled to play six World Test Championship Tests, three ODIs and nine T20Is in the forthcoming season.

    “Azhar Ali will join the camp from the outset after completing his contract with English county Somerset. Babar Azam, Fakhar Zaman, Imad Wasim, Mohammad Abbas and Mohammad Amir have been exempted from the camp so that they can complete their contracts with English counties Somerset, Glamorgan, Nottinghamshire, Leicestershire and Essex respectively. They will return to Pakistan in time to participate in the opening round matches of the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy.

    “The following comprise the 20-man contingent (in alphabetical order): Cen*trally contracted: Abid Ali, Asad Shafiq, Azhar Ali, Haris Sohail, Hasan Ali, Imam-ul-Haq, Mohammad Rizwan, Sarfaraz Ahmed, Shadab Khan, Shaheen Shah Afridi, Shan Masood, Usman Shinwari, Wahab Riaz and Yasir Shah. Non-Contracted players: Asif Ali, Bilal Asif, Iftikhar Ahmed, Mir Hamza, Rahat Ali and Zafar Gohar. Non-participating centrally contracted players: Babar Azam, Fakhar Zaman, Imad Wasim, Mohammad Abbas and Mohammad Amir.

    The news release adds that Misbah’s experience will help the players.

    “Misbah-ul-Haq, who has been Pakistan’s most successful captain, understands the arduous demands of the format in this day and age. With the advent of the World Test Championship, the PCB wants Pakistan to turn up with their best red ball game when they face Sri Lanka in the two-match Test series at home,” the PCB said.

    “Ahead of the Sri Lanka series, these players will be a part of the initial rounds of what will be a highly competitive Quaid-e-Azam Trophy. So, this camp will further benefit them in gearing up for an exciting cricketing season.As five players are already playing active cricket in England and Wales, we have given exemptions to them but they have been advised to return to Pakistan in time to be available for the first round matches of the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy.”

    https://www.dawn.com/news/1499743/mi...and-head-coach


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    Will reduce blammable substances to 2 (captain and coach). I would have preferred the captain to be the chief selector though. Would have further brought down the number to 1.


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    Quote Originally Posted by asfandyar View Post
    Will reduce blammable substances to 2 (captain and coach). I would have preferred the captain to be the chief selector though. Would have further brought down the number to 1.
    My selection committee would include the captain, coach and someone who knows the players in the domestics well or has been a coach for a perennially successful domestic team.


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    Well if you thought Mickey and the previous ul-Haq were bad, you are in for a ride.

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    Great news

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    This is actually a smart idea, like they do in football let the coach select his players and then be accountable.

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    Oh God


    Hard to get a handle on this double edged sword

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    Well if you thought Mickey and the previous ul-Haq were bad, you are in for a ride.
    Huge difference in the personality and thinking of the two ul-Haqs. Inzimam demands respect, Misbah commands it

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    not a bad move as long as PCB invest heavily in specialist coaching staff (batting/bowling/fielding) that report to misbah and work directly with players on techniques. with dual role he will be too occupied to work with specific players outside of mentoring.

    another reason he will serve well is that current pakistan team does not have a suitable captain. What better than to bring in the most succesful captain to guide the new team and captain.

    i think if this goes through, it have been well thought out by PCB. but the job will be half done if Misbah as headcoach does not get top notch support staff.

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    People stopped watching cricket from 2012 to 2015. I am afraid the isolation of Pakistan cricket might succeed this time no thank to BCCI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by daytrader View Post
    Huge difference in the personality and thinking of the two ul-Haqs. Inzimam demands respect, Misbah commands it
    Inzimam earned it. Misbah is yet to earn it.

    Inzimam is the legend. Misbah will never be legend.

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    Excellent news. I'm loving the vision and forward thinking of Wasim Khan here.

    Coach and captain should have full authority in selecting the players. Good out of the box decision this one! Only good things will come out of this.

    That day is not far away when we'll start winning things again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    Well if you thought Mickey and the previous ul-Haq were bad, you are in for a ride.
    Think positive. There is sound reasoning in the idea - it may be a huge paradigm shift and if it works will be adopted by others also


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    Just looking at the camp selection

    It looks like that we won't see too many youngsters debuting.

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    The system could work as long as the head coach/selector is backed by a team of scouts and also takes advice on board from the domestic coaches. Otherwise it can create a big disconnect between domestic performances and NT selection. As a head coach, he can become too close to the existing players and reluctant to drop underperforming players for domestic performers he doesn't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    Well if you thought Mickey and the previous ul-Haq were bad, you are in for a ride.
    I know right, im already prepared for our sink in LOIs if these guys get their way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkeye View Post
    Excellent news. I'm loving the vision and forward thinking of Wasim Khan here.

    Coach and captain should have full authority in selecting the players. Good out of the box decision this one! Only good things will come out of this.

    That day is not far away when we'll start winning things again.
    Like losing test matches to Zimbabve and struggling to qualify for Champions Trophy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim View Post
    Like losing test matches to Zimbabve and struggling to qualify for Champions Trophy?
    What about Mickey Arthur - had he won a trophy as a player before he came on the scene?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Major View Post
    Woooohoooooo


    Gonna start watching pak crickey again.

    Great days ahead if this is true
    Sum up your mentality about Pakistan cricket.
    Did you support Pakistan in this World Cup? Because neither Misbah nor his loyal Azhar was not in the team.

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    Looks like dark ages coming to Pakistan cricket.

    Under misbah there will be no future for any player under 30 means players like Babar, Haris, Shaheen, Sadab, Imam, Shinwari, Hasnain...... will be sent to domestic for more experience until they reach around 32-35.

    Oldies like Zulfi, Malik, Hafeez, Ajmal, M Sami, Gul, Rahat, useless Kamran, Shehzad......will dominate the squad.

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    If Misbah is given job either coach or selector, PCB shouldn't worry about changing any domestic set up, under 19/16/A tours, fitness trainer, batting/bowling coach. Why waste money on no.9-10 team?

    So all the talk about changing this and that, giving opportunities to new players are just rubbish.
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