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    India's federal government detained thousands of people ahead of a controversial move to strip the state of Jammu and Kashmir of its semi-autonomous status on 5 August 2019. One year later, many of them have been charged with serious offences and are still languishing in jails across India. BBC Hindi's Majid Jahangir reports.

    Tasleema Wani and her family were fast asleep on the night of 6 August when there was a loud banging on the door.

    It was the day after the Indian government in Delhi stunned the country by revoking a constitutional provision that gave Jammu and Kashmir special powers. The decision split the part of the disputed region that India administers into two federal territories, and saw an unprecedented curfew and communications lockdown imposed.

    "It was a team of joint security forces from the army and police and they were screaming for us to open the door. It was terrifying," Ms Wani said.

    "They sent me inside, and took both my sons outside to the lawn and questioned them for about 15 minutes. Then they left."

    But they later came back and asked her elder son, 19-year-old Nadeem, to show them the way to a neighbour's house. That was the last time Ms Wani saw him.

    He was taken to a police station, detained and eventually transferred to a jail in Uttar Pradesh state, more than 1,000km (620 miles) away.


    Media captionThe families of two detained men have spoken to the BBC
    In an official dossier, which the BBC has seen, police have accused Nadeem Wani of being an "Over Ground Worker". Such "OGWs" are defined by security forces as non-combatant members of armed rebel groups, usually tasked with logistics.

    He has also been charged with other offences, including putting up posters asking people not to participate in the 2014 elections - he was 15 at the time.

    "I know my son. He is not a militant and never took part in any unlawful activity. I appeal to the government to please release him," Ms Wani pleaded. Her husband, Mohammad Ashraf Wani, has only seen Nadeem once in the entire year that he has been in jail.

    Nadeem is among thousands of Kashmiris who were detained in a massive security operation that began in the region just before 5 August and continued for weeks after. Politicians, businesspeople, lawyers, activists and others with alleged links to protests or militant groups were detained, imprisoned or placed under house arrest. Three former chief ministers were among those who were detained - one of them is still under house arrest.

    Despite strident criticism in India and abroad, the government insisted that the arrests were necessary to maintain law and order in the region, which has seen increased militancy in recent years.

    Many, including Nadeem, have been detained under the controversial Public Safety Act (PSA), which among other things, allows detention without formal charge for up to two years.

    It's unclear exactly how many Kashmiris have been detained or jailed as part of this crackdown. On 20 November 2019, the government told parliament that they had made 5,161 preventive arrests since 4 August that year. But it's unclear how many of them have been charged under the PSA and how many are still in jail.

    Court records obtained by a civil organisation made up of parents of "disappeared" Kashmiris show that as many as 662 petitions challenging detentions under the PSA were registered in 2019. The majority of those, 412, were filed after 5 August.

    The BBC asked Kashmir Inspector General of Police (IGP) Vijay Kumar for information on the arrests but he said he could not share "such sensitive data".

    Rights activists have alleged that these arrests and detentions are aimed at creating fear.

    "The arrests were to silence the people. Many were booked under PSA. Some were released. And fear was created. The government wanted to ensure that no-one would come out of their homes and protest against the new law," said Srinagar-based rights activist Parvaiz Imroz.

    Srinagar-based journalist and political commentator Haroon Reshi agrees.

    "August 5th was a big event and the state knew it could trigger public resentment. The state didn't want to hear reactionary voices," he said.

    Meanwhile, those who have been released have spoken of the ordeal of detention.

    Qamar Zaman Qazi, editor of regional online news portal The Kashmiryat, was detained days after being summoned to "explain" some tweets.

    In the days before 5 August, the region had seen a massive military build-up. Until then the government had given no indication of what was to come, and the entire operation had been kept a closely-guarded secret.

    Mr Qazi's tweets on 26 July - talking about additional troop movements - were noticed by local police who summoned him to the station the next day and detained him. On 8 August, he was transferred to the central jail in Srinagar, the capital of Indian-administered Kashmir.

    "We were stripped naked there. Initially, we tried to resist but we couldn't," he said.

    There, Mr Qazi added, he was told he was being charged under the PSA He was transferred to Bareilly central jail in Uttar Pradesh state. "As they put us in the military aircraft, we started singing Urdu poet Faiz Ahmad Faiz's anthem of resistance, Hum Dekhenge (We shall bear witness)."

    With no information about where he was being held, Mr Qazi's family visited four prisons in the state looking for him. It took them 52 days to find him - and when they did, he was still wearing the shirt he had been wearing when he went to the police station.

    At his home, after he was released following the revocation of his detention order by a district magistrate, he showed me the T-shirt, ragged and torn, with 119 holes in it.

    "The worst thing was that I wasn't given a paper and pen inside my cell despite several requests. I wanted to record the agonies and pain I went through for nine months," he said.

    Earlier this week, Mr Qazi was detained again because of a story he wrote - authorities have told his family to apply for bail after 6 August, when the curfew imposed on Monday will be lifted.

    Across the state thousands of worried families are still fretting about the safety of their loved ones, particularly in the wake of the pandemic.

    Among them is the mother of Waseem Ahmad Sheikh, who has been in jail since he presented himself at a police station on 8 August 2019 - one day after security forces came looking for him in the middle of the night.

    He is accused of helping militants and throwing stones at security forces.

    Waseem was also flown to a jail in faraway Uttar Pradesh, and his family has not been able to seen him since then.

    His mother, Sara Begum, said she was terrified that Covid-19 would either kill him or her before they are reunited.

    "We want to die together. I haven't seen my beloved son for the last 11 months," she said, sobbing. "I appeal to the government to at least shift him to a jail in Kashmir even if they don't want to release him."

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-53646862


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    SRINAGAR: The Indian army said Monday it is investigating the killing of three Kashmiris last month after their pictures surfaced on social media and a family member of one of the victims denied the Indian army's accusations that they were Pakistanis or were involved in militancy.

    Naseeb Khatana said his three cousins — Abrar Khatana, 18, Imtiyaz Ahmed, 21 and Abrar Ahmad, 25 — left their home in the southern district of Rajouri on July 16 to look for work in the occupied Kashmir valley, but the family lost contact with them a day later.

    The Indian army said on July 18 that its soldiers had killed three persons it branded as "terrorists" in the south Kashmir village of Amshipora. The bodies, it said, had been buried in a remote border area.

    "Today we identified their bodies from photographs that appeared in social media," Naseeb Khatana, the slain youths' relative, told AFP from his home.

    "We want justice and their bodies returned to us," Khatana said. The family also demanded DNA testing of the victims.

    Indian army spokesman Colonel Rajesh Kalia said in a brief statement that "the army is investigating the matter."

    "The three terrorists killed during the encounter have not been identified and were buried based on established protocols," the statement added.

    Following the killings in July, Brigadier Ajay Kotach said the military operation was launched on a tip.

    Police, who would normally have a presence at such operations, said they did not take part in this one and had launched their own inquiry, a senior police official told AFP, speaking on condition of anonymity.

    The incident has generated social media outrage and even pro-India groups have demanded an independent probe into the deaths.

    The incident raised memories of past incidents in the restive territory where a three-decade-old separatist movement has left tens of thousands martyred, mainly civilians.

    In 2010, three army officers were found guilty of the deaths of three labourers who had been branded as 'Pakistani infiltrators'.

    The killings sparked months of protests that left more than 100 civilians dead.

    In 2000, the army claimed to have killed five "terrorists" responsible for the massacre of 35 Sikhs. An investigation found the five were locals killed by Indian soldiers in a staged gun battle.

    https://www.geo.tv/latest/302232-ind...llenges-claims


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    The Centre on Tuesday informed the Supreme Court it is open to lifting restrictions on high-speed 4G mobile internet services on a trial basis in select areas of Jammu and Kashmir.

    Attorney General KK Venugopal said the 4G ban will be lifted in one district each in Jammu and Kashmir divisions after August 15.

    The Supreme court was hearing a petition filed by Foundation for Media Professionals, a non-government organisation, in June seeking the initiation of contempt proceedings against the Centre and J-K administration for the failure to comply with the top court’s May 11 directions to review restrictions on mobile internet speed in the union territory.

    Also Read: From habeas corpus to 4G services in Jammu and Kashmir: Pleas in Supreme Court


    In its last hearing, the top court had said that the Centre should explore the possibility of restoring 4G mobile internet services in Jammu and Kashmir in view of the statements of GC Murmu, the former lieutenant governor of the Union territory, backing the restoration.

    “L-G Murmu has said that there is no difficulty in restoring 4G. You have to give an explanation to that,” justice R Subhash Reddy told solicitor general Tushar Mehta, who appeared for the Jammu & Kashmir administration, last Friday.

    Also Read: Election Commission’s rare reprimand for Kashmir Lt Guv over remarks on timing of elections


    Murmu, who was succeeded by Manoj Sinha as the lieutenant governor on Friday, had said on July 24 the restoration of 4G services will not be a problem and Pakistan will continue with its propaganda even if the mobile internet speed is restricted to 2G. The Centre has cited Islamabad’s propaganda while justifying the restrictions.

    The Centre on July 28 told the Supreme Court it will verify media reports that said Murmu has advocated the restoration of high-speed 4G internet services. This came days after the Centre filed an affidavit before the court on July 21, saying a special panel constituted as per the latter’s May 11 order has decided against any relaxations for now.

    The government said the restrictions would continue for two more months before they are reviewed again. It added the panel constituted for the review on June 10 considered all aspects of the matter, including terror strikes, before deciding to continue the restrictions on 4G services.

    The Supreme Court on May 11 passed its order after the NGO in April challenged restrictions on mobile internet speed to 2G. The NGO sought restoration of 4G services saying patients, doctors, and the general public were unable to access the latest information, guidelines, advisories and restrictions about Covid-19 pandemic because of the restrictions. It pointed out that slow internet speeds make telemedicine, or online consultation, impossible.

    It had refrained from passing directions to restore 4G services and instead ordered a constitution of the panel comprising high-level government officers, including the Union home secretary, to take a call on the matter.

    The NGO in June filed the contempt petition saying there was no information available whether the constitution of the panel was notified and whether it has conducted any meetings or passed any orders.

    A communications blackout and a lockdown were imposed in Jammu and Kashmir in August last year as part of measures to prevent protests against the Centre’s move to divest the region of its special status. Most of the restrictions have since been eased even as mobile internet remains restricted.

    https://www.hindustantimes.com/india...RKsW2CXBL.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    The Centre on Tuesday informed the Supreme Court it is open to lifting restrictions on high-speed 4G mobile internet services on a trial basis in select areas of Jammu and Kashmir.

    Attorney General KK Venugopal said the 4G ban will be lifted in one district each in Jammu and Kashmir divisions after August 15.

    The Supreme court was hearing a petition filed by Foundation for Media Professionals, a non-government organisation, in June seeking the initiation of contempt proceedings against the Centre and J-K administration for the failure to comply with the top court’s May 11 directions to review restrictions on mobile internet speed in the union territory.

    Also Read: From habeas corpus to 4G services in Jammu and Kashmir: Pleas in Supreme Court


    In its last hearing, the top court had said that the Centre should explore the possibility of restoring 4G mobile internet services in Jammu and Kashmir in view of the statements of GC Murmu, the former lieutenant governor of the Union territory, backing the restoration.

    “L-G Murmu has said that there is no difficulty in restoring 4G. You have to give an explanation to that,” justice R Subhash Reddy told solicitor general Tushar Mehta, who appeared for the Jammu & Kashmir administration, last Friday.

    Also Read: Election Commission’s rare reprimand for Kashmir Lt Guv over remarks on timing of elections


    Murmu, who was succeeded by Manoj Sinha as the lieutenant governor on Friday, had said on July 24 the restoration of 4G services will not be a problem and Pakistan will continue with its propaganda even if the mobile internet speed is restricted to 2G. The Centre has cited Islamabad’s propaganda while justifying the restrictions.

    The Centre on July 28 told the Supreme Court it will verify media reports that said Murmu has advocated the restoration of high-speed 4G internet services. This came days after the Centre filed an affidavit before the court on July 21, saying a special panel constituted as per the latter’s May 11 order has decided against any relaxations for now.

    The government said the restrictions would continue for two more months before they are reviewed again. It added the panel constituted for the review on June 10 considered all aspects of the matter, including terror strikes, before deciding to continue the restrictions on 4G services.

    The Supreme Court on May 11 passed its order after the NGO in April challenged restrictions on mobile internet speed to 2G. The NGO sought restoration of 4G services saying patients, doctors, and the general public were unable to access the latest information, guidelines, advisories and restrictions about Covid-19 pandemic because of the restrictions. It pointed out that slow internet speeds make telemedicine, or online consultation, impossible.

    It had refrained from passing directions to restore 4G services and instead ordered a constitution of the panel comprising high-level government officers, including the Union home secretary, to take a call on the matter.

    The NGO in June filed the contempt petition saying there was no information available whether the constitution of the panel was notified and whether it has conducted any meetings or passed any orders.

    A communications blackout and a lockdown were imposed in Jammu and Kashmir in August last year as part of measures to prevent protests against the Centre’s move to divest the region of its special status. Most of the restrictions have since been eased even as mobile internet remains restricted.

    https://www.hindustantimes.com/india...RKsW2CXBL.html
    Another sham decision ... joke of a legal system.


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    Our courts are busy in punishing Bhushan (a tireless litigant for common causes) for his alleged contempt of court. They don't have time for such minor things.

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    Rebels kill police in Kashmir ahead of India’s Independence Day

    Rebels attacked a police team in Indian-administered Kashmir on Friday, killing two officers and wounding one despite tight security in the disputed majority-Muslim region ahead of India’s Independence Day.

    A group of fighters opened fire on the police team that was on duty in the Nowgam area of Srinagar city, the chief of police in Kashmir, Vijay Kumar, told the Reuters news agency.

    “We had inputs that militants may carry out attack and were alert,” said Kumar. “They came through a narrow lane and fired indiscriminately.”

    He said the rebels had been identified and promised to “neutralise them” soon. The area had been cordoned off searches were going on, he said.

    The attack comes days after the first anniversary of the revocation of Kashmir’s constitutional autonomy, a reform the Indian government said would promote the region’s development by drawing it closer to the rest of the country.

    But many people in Kashmir saw the loss of special autonomy as another step in the erosion of the rights of Muslims by the Hindu nationalist government. The government rejects that.

    Kashmir has been disputed by India and neighbouring Pakistan since the end of the British colonial rule in 1947. Both countries claim it in full but rule it in part.

    More than 50,000 people have been killed in more than 30 years of armed rebellion in Kashmir that India accuses Pakistan of fuelling by supporting Muslim rebel groups fighting India’s security forces in its part of the divided region.

    Pakistan says it only offers political support to its fellow Muslims in the Himalayan region.

    India celebrates Independence Day on Saturday.

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/...081719467.html


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    The defacto curfew in Kashmir is ongoing and there is no end to it in sight. Please understand that movement of people is allowed on streets but on gun point. An entire population held hostage.
    May the reign of terror end with the fall of oppressor and may a lesson be made out of them for generations to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    The defacto curfew in Kashmir is ongoing and there is no end to it in sight. Please understand that movement of people is allowed on streets but on gun point. An entire population held hostage.
    May the reign of terror end with the fall of oppressor and may a lesson be made out of them for generations to come.
    Ameen. Hope you are keeping safe bud.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    Ameen. Hope you are keeping safe bud.
    Thanks bro. Yes, keeping safe. Not living though, just surviving every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    Thanks bro. Yes, keeping safe. Not living though, just surviving every day.
    If there's anything I can do to help, please inbox mods. May God keep you strong and keep all the brothers and sisters safe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    The defacto curfew in Kashmir is ongoing and there is no end to it in sight. Please understand that movement of people is allowed on streets but on gun point. An entire population held hostage.
    May the reign of terror end with the fall of oppressor and may a lesson be made out of them for generations to come.
    Good to hear from you Maddy. Hope you and the family keep safe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    If there's anything I can do to help, please inbox mods. May God keep you strong and keep all the brothers and sisters safe.
    Thank you so much. This past one year has been absolutely devastating and words will fall short if i begin enumerating the troubles we've had.

    For now just keep us in your prayers. But i have something for which i will need help of PPers in future. At that time i will need all the help that i can get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Good to hear from you Maddy. Hope you and the family keep safe.
    Thanks bro. Alhamdulilah we're surviving amid all of the devastation. Hope you're doing well too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    Thank you so much. This past one year has been absolutely devastating and words will fall short if i begin enumerating the troubles we've had.

    For now just keep us in your prayers. But i have something for which i will need help of PPers in future. At that time i will need all the help that i can get.
    Stay strong brother. All our good deeds and bad deeds are accountable, if not in this life then in the next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extra_Cover View Post
    Stay strong brother. All our good deeds and bad deeds are accountable, if not in this life then in the next.
    Thanks bro. Yes, faith is what keeps us going.

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    Deserted look in Occupied Kashmir on India’s Independence Day

    Authorities enforced a security lockdown and cut off internet access in Indian Illegally Occupied Jammu and Kashmir (IIOJK) on Saturday, fearing protests in the occupied region on India’s 74th Independence Day.

    Mobile internet services were snapped and stringent security arrangements enforced in the early hours of the day to thwart any potential incident.

    Official sources told Anadolu Agency that internet services were suspended as a “precautionary measure”.

    Streets in the region wore a deserted look on Saturday as people largely remained indoors amid heavy deployment of police and paramilitary troops.

    The increased security presence came a day after two cops were killed and another injured in an attack.

    ’Not acceptable to the people’

    Mohammad Muneeb, a political science scholar in the region, told Anadolu Agency that the Indian administration’s steps over the past year were not acceptable to the people of Occupied Kashmir.

    “The ‘development’ that they are touting is clear for all to see. Businesses are gasping for survival, the economy is down, schools are shut, people have lost their jobs, and worse of all, people are dying due to the incessant violence and the Covid-19 pandemic,” he added.

    https://tribune.com.pk/story/2259672...dependence-day


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    https://theprint.in/hoaxposed/tricol...new-jk/482295/

    Tricolour image at Srinagar’s Lal Chowk shared by BJP’s Kapil Mishra is not ‘new J&K’

    New Delhi: A photo of Srinagar’s Lal Chowk with a Tricolor unfurled on the Clock Tower was shared on social media Saturday morning, with people claiming that this is the “new Jammu and Kashmir”.

    The flag and message is a reference to the scrapping of Article 370 that led to Jammu and Kashmir losing its special status and eventually being turned in to two Union Territories.

    The photo was widely circulated, including BJP leader Kapil Mishra and the party’s state president from Ladakh, Jamyang Tsering Namgyal.

    In his post, Namgyal states that the “symbol of anti-India campaign” is now a “crown of nationalism”.

    “What has changed since 5 Aug 2019? Lal Chowk Srinagar which had remained as symbol of Ant-iIndia campaign by dynast politicians and Jihadist forces, has now become Crown of Nationalism.”

    The photo tweeted by Mishra has been retweeted over 7,000 times and liked by more than 37,000 accounts. Namgyal’s post also garnered quite a bit of attention — over 1,600 retweets and more than 8,000 likes.

    Many others also shared the picture, claiming this was the “new Jammu and Kashmir”.

    Fact check
    On closer examination, the photograph appears photoshopped. The flag seems to have been digitally added to an older image of Lal Chowk in Srinagar. This is evident when one looks at the latest pictures of Lal Chowk.

    All the latest pictures of Lal Chowk show renovated buildings painted white in the background instead of the brick buildings present in the photograph being circulated. The latest pictures also show no presence of the Indian flag on the Clock Tower.

    A comparison of both photos also throws up another significant difference — heavy security presence and shops shut in one while the viral image shows people walking around and shops open. Shops have largely remained shut because of restrictions, earlier due to the security lockdown and later due to Covid-19.

    Given these striking differences, it is safe to derive that the picture being circulated on social media is fake.

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    Liars will be liars, and hence are called sanghis for a reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MP2011 View Post
    Liars will be liars, and hence are called sanghis for a reason.
    It is a lie for sure. But do you think they won't be able to actually hoist it there if they wished? Anything can be done on gunpoint. However, what purpose will it serve? Will it suddenly make people accept whats being done to them? These theatrics are for their audience back home and brings about no change of sentiments among the locals. Infact it aggravates the existing resentment.


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    Modi spoke about the delimitation process ongoing in his speech yesterday and elections to take place soon. What sort of changes are expected considering Farookh Abdulla is part of the committee? Will the public even be a part of the elections considering the past year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    The defacto curfew in Kashmir is ongoing and there is no end to it in sight. Please understand that movement of people is allowed on streets but on gun point. An entire population held hostage.
    May the reign of terror end with the fall of oppressor and may a lesson be made out of them for generations to come.
    If you or any kashmiri have time can you please answer these :

    1) Are there any developments going on in J&K?

    2) Are they building factories and giving employment to locals?

    3) Have they built any roads/bridges there?

    4) How are people earning money there?

    5) How are tech companies doing there online business without fast internet?

    6) Are there any demographic changes?

    7) What about government schemes? Are you guys getting any of those there like Ayushman or MSME loans?

    I am asking these questions because all bhakhts and Modi were repeating all these things after 5th August 2019. Only you and those living there can answer these questions.

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    Elections in Jammu and Kashmir after delimitation exercise in the union territory is completed: PM

    NEW DELHI: Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Saturday announced that elections would be held in Jammu and Kashmir as soon as the delimitation process in the union territory gets over.

    In his Independence Day address to the nation, the Prime Mminister, who spoke on development in various parts of the country, noted that it has been a year since Jammu and Kashmir, and Ladakh got independence from Article 370.

    https://m.timesofindia.com/india/ele...w/77563353.cms

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    If you or any kashmiri have time can you please answer these :

    1) Are there any developments going on in J&K?
    There is no effective development. I say this with authority that we are worse off now than we were a year ago pre- August 5th 2019. Any developmental projects that they are mentioning are complete ** and have done no good to the local population.

    2) Are they building factories and giving employment to locals?
    No. Employment? We lost over 4 hundred thousand jobs in last 1 year in the private sector.
    Due to lack of fast speed internet, most of the contracts like sand mining etc. are going to non-locals because the locals can't even fill the online forms.
    Kashmiri kids have gone to schools for a total of a couple of weeks in last 1 year.

    3) Have they built any roads/bridges there?
    I'm not sure. The potholes outside my house are getting deeper and there is nobody to complain to. No accountability, the administration is missing.

    4) How are people earning money there?
    Short answer is, they aren't. Only govt. employees are earning and that money gets circulated a bit in the economy and shopkeepers earn from them but that's really a miniscule contribution. Rest of the people are living on savings and one might wonder how this will all be sustainable. I have not earned a penny in last 1 year myself and am surviving on savings. However, people do know that BJP and their supporters (which i can generalize as the majority of Indian population) want to impoverish the people of Kashmir as it is part of their overall approach. You as an Indian should know it too. This is what they want.

    5) How are tech companies doing there online business without fast internet?
    A lot of the tech companies have wound up business. The biggest of them took an exit many months back when even 2g wasnt available.

    6) Are there any demographic changes?
    It is just the beginning. West Pakistan refugees who number in lakhs have been given/are eligible now for domicile certificates. Scores of labourers from India are eligible now too. Army has been given a free hand now to grab land if they deem it "strategic" and we all know what it means. There are 9 lakh army men in Kashmir and 7 million people in total. Exclude the women, children, disabled and elderly, there must be 1 armed man for every able bodied Kashmiri man. Understand what that means.

    7) What about government schemes? Are you guys getting any of those there like Ayushman or MSME loans?
    I'm not sure really. Don't think i should answer it for the lack of knowledge on the subject.

    I am asking these questions because all bhakhts and Modi were repeating all these things after 5th August 2019. Only you and those living there can answer these questions.
    As a common man, i can just say i am worse off now that what i was a year ago. The future looks bleak and we don't know where an income will come from in future. Uncertainty has caused tremendous mental distress to us as a population and it seems that India is hell bent on destroying J&K for the satisfaction of the Indian collective conscience.

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    @Madplayer sad to hear that mate. Politics has its place but people losing there livelihood due to it isnt fair at all and the effect it has on mental health is understated. Seriously hope whatever plans the govt has, it gets rid of the current situation soon enough.

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    @Madplayer - We Indians totally emphathise with your situation but you need to understand that we dont consider you as our enemy. Even though we are aware that you dont love us but we still love you. Even though we know that you Kashmiri's have always hated us and supported Pakistan, an enemy state to India, we still loved you. And this hatred didnt develop overnight after 5th Aug 2019, it was there since inception for some unexplicable reasons. Be it in sports or politics, ideology or philosohpy, Afridi or Dhoni, Gandhi or Jinnah, you have always supported a country which has not given you guys anything over your own country where you reside and breath. Quiet honestly, in any other country your behaviour will be termed as threacherous but we still considered you as our own and loved unconditionally, allowed equal participation in every field - sports, admission to mainstream Indian universities, IAS officers, govt jobs, private jobs, you name it.

    But when you (not you personally) pick up arms and launch armed secessionist movement againt your own country, albeit after being brainwashed from outsiders, India is not going to keep quiet and there definitely will be repurcussions. You need to understand that India will never let go Kashmir (the land) as its geographically and economically too important for India. The very same reasons why Pakistan wants that land in first place and not bcoz they care about Kashmiris..lol. Also land aquisitions and country divisions are things of the past and in nuclear era it just dont happen.

    Its not as if Kashmir was peaceful like Switzerland when the state had autonomy under Article 370. For 70 years under the garb of special status armed secessionist movement was rampant in the valley. We are used to traitors (many lives in mainstream India as well ) but will never allow armed rebellion under the dictation of neighbouring countries. So removing Article 370 and making Kashmir an Union Territory was absolutely essential so that New Delhi can have more control on the state.

    Trust me no one in India loves the fact that you guys are in agony...no one in India wants to house arrest fellow Kashmiris. But removing article 370 without these steps would have meant blood bath in the valley. As far as developement of the valley is concerned, everything will happen in right time but we have to be patient. Considering Kashmir is an Indian Union Territory now, it is no different to Delhi or Daman & Diu and will get every benefits that other UT's does. But developement work can only start when armed secessionist movement totally stops. It has already reduced a lot and give it few more years it will reduce totally.

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    What a joke of a post above , same guy who wants a Hindu Rashtra is appealing for patience from a guy in Muslim majority area.


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    @Rajdeep, your post is a joke in all honesty.

    Your post should be directed towards election speeches or to diffuse concerns in neutral grounds. It has no business being directed towards a Kashmiri who is living through the turmoil you call "necessary".

    Just don't be vocal about a situation where you haven't lived through it and to top it off don't direct your "education" to the person living through it. Be happy you have a home, family, safety and above all freedom because some other don't and for people who don't have them don't go around educating them on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    The defacto curfew in Kashmir is ongoing and there is no end to it in sight. Please understand that movement of people is allowed on streets but on gun point. An entire population held hostage.
    May the reign of terror end with the fall of oppressor and may a lesson be made out of them for generations to come.
    Stay strong and stay safe bro.
    Kashmiris have proved to be a resilient nation and your struggle will forever be remembered.
    May Allah help you in these troubled times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    There is no effective development. I say this with authority that we are worse off now than we were a year ago pre- August 5th 2019. Any developmental projects that they are mentioning are complete ** and have done no good to the local population.


    No. Employment? We lost over 4 hundred thousand jobs in last 1 year in the private sector.
    Due to lack of fast speed internet, most of the contracts like sand mining etc. are going to non-locals because the locals can't even fill the online forms.
    Kashmiri kids have gone to schools for a total of a couple of weeks in last 1 year.


    I'm not sure. The potholes outside my house are getting deeper and there is nobody to complain to. No accountability, the administration is missing.


    Short answer is, they aren't. Only govt. employees are earning and that money gets circulated a bit in the economy and shopkeepers earn from them but that's really a miniscule contribution. Rest of the people are living on savings and one might wonder how this will all be sustainable. I have not earned a penny in last 1 year myself and am surviving on savings. However, people do know that BJP and their supporters (which i can generalize as the majority of Indian population) want to impoverish the people of Kashmir as it is part of their overall approach. You as an Indian should know it too. This is what they want.


    A lot of the tech companies have wound up business. The biggest of them took an exit many months back when even 2g wasnt available.


    It is just the beginning. West Pakistan refugees who number in lakhs have been given/are eligible now for domicile certificates. Scores of labourers from India are eligible now too. Army has been given a free hand now to grab land if they deem it "strategic" and we all know what it means. There are 9 lakh army men in Kashmir and 7 million people in total. Exclude the women, children, disabled and elderly, there must be 1 armed man for every able bodied Kashmiri man. Understand what that means.


    I'm not sure really. Don't think i should answer it for the lack of knowledge on the subject.



    As a common man, i can just say i am worse off now that what i was a year ago. The future looks bleak and we don't know where an income will come from in future. Uncertainty has caused tremendous mental distress to us as a population and it seems that India is hell bent on destroying J&K for the satisfaction of the Indian collective conscience.
    Thanks for answering my questions bro. I would rather believe you than Indian media or some trolls who have never lived in J&K but claim to know everything about it. I think those who have experienced the 2 months of lockdown financially can relate to you. You guys are in the same situation for the past 1 year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajdeep View Post
    @Madplayer - We Indians totally emphathise with your situation but you need to understand that we dont consider you as our enemy. Even though we are aware that you dont love us but we still love you. Even though we know that you Kashmiri's have always hated us and supported Pakistan, an enemy state to India, we still loved you. And this hatred didnt develop overnight after 5th Aug 2019, it was there since inception for some unexplicable reasons. Be it in sports or politics, ideology or philosohpy, Afridi or Dhoni, Gandhi or Jinnah, you have always supported a country which has not given you guys anything over your own country where you reside and breath. Quiet honestly, in any other country your behaviour will be termed as threacherous but we still considered you as our own and loved unconditionally, allowed equal participation in every field - sports, admission to mainstream Indian universities, IAS officers, govt jobs, private jobs, you name it.

    But when you (not you personally) pick up arms and launch armed secessionist movement againt your own country, albeit after being brainwashed from outsiders, India is not going to keep quiet and there definitely will be repurcussions. You need to understand that India will never let go Kashmir (the land) as its geographically and economically too important for India. The very same reasons why Pakistan wants that land in first place and not bcoz they care about Kashmiris..lol. Also land aquisitions and country divisions are things of the past and in nuclear era it just dont happen.

    Its not as if Kashmir was peaceful like Switzerland when the state had autonomy under Article 370. For 70 years under the garb of special status armed secessionist movement was rampant in the valley. We are used to traitors (many lives in mainstream India as well ) but will never allow armed rebellion under the dictation of neighbouring countries. So removing Article 370 and making Kashmir an Union Territory was absolutely essential so that New Delhi can have more control on the state.

    Trust me no one in India loves the fact that you guys are in agony...no one in India wants to house arrest fellow Kashmiris. But removing article 370 without these steps would have meant blood bath in the valley. As far as developement of the valley is concerned, everything will happen in right time but we have to be patient. Considering Kashmir is an Indian Union Territory now, it is no different to Delhi or Daman & Diu and will get every benefits that other UT's does. But developement work can only start when armed secessionist movement totally stops. It has already reduced a lot and give it few more years it will reduce totally.
    FC bhaijaan you are as fake as Srinagar's Lal Chowk image


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajdeep View Post
    @Madplayer - We Indians totally emphathise with your situation but you need to understand that we dont consider you as our enemy. Even though we are aware that you dont love us but we still love you. Even though we know that you Kashmiri's have always hated us and supported Pakistan, an enemy state to India, we still loved you. And this hatred didnt develop overnight after 5th Aug 2019, it was there since inception for some unexplicable reasons. Be it in sports or politics, ideology or philosohpy, Afridi or Dhoni, Gandhi or Jinnah, you have always supported a country which has not given you guys anything over your own country where you reside and breath. Quiet honestly, in any other country your behaviour will be termed as threacherous but we still considered you as our own and loved unconditionally, allowed equal participation in every field - sports, admission to mainstream Indian universities, IAS officers, govt jobs, private jobs, you name it.

    But when you (not you personally) pick up arms and launch armed secessionist movement againt your own country, albeit after being brainwashed from outsiders, India is not going to keep quiet and there definitely will be repurcussions. You need to understand that India will never let go Kashmir (the land) as its geographically and economically too important for India. The very same reasons why Pakistan wants that land in first place and not bcoz they care about Kashmiris..lol. Also land aquisitions and country divisions are things of the past and in nuclear era it just dont happen.

    Its not as if Kashmir was peaceful like Switzerland when the state had autonomy under Article 370. For 70 years under the garb of special status armed secessionist movement was rampant in the valley. We are used to traitors (many lives in mainstream India as well ) but will never allow armed rebellion under the dictation of neighbouring countries. So removing Article 370 and making Kashmir an Union Territory was absolutely essential so that New Delhi can have more control on the state.

    Trust me no one in India loves the fact that you guys are in agony...no one in India wants to house arrest fellow Kashmiris. But removing article 370 without these steps would have meant blood bath in the valley. As far as developement of the valley is concerned, everything will happen in right time but we have to be patient. Considering Kashmir is an Indian Union Territory now, it is no different to Delhi or Daman & Diu and will get every benefits that other UT's does. But developement work can only start when armed secessionist movement totally stops. It has already reduced a lot and give it few more years it will reduce totally.
    My God! What has BJP done to the Indian brain!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenstorm View Post
    Stay strong and stay safe bro.
    Kashmiris have proved to be a resilient nation and your struggle will forever be remembered.
    May Allah help you in these troubled times.
    Ameen. And thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    Thanks for answering my questions bro. I would rather believe you than Indian media or some trolls who have never lived in J&K but claim to know everything about it. I think those who have experienced the 2 months of lockdown financially can relate to you. You guys are in the same situation for the past 1 year.
    Its okay. Just hope things get better in future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OldWarHorse View Post
    @Madplayer sad to hear that mate. Politics has its place but people losing there livelihood due to it isnt fair at all and the effect it has on mental health is understated. Seriously hope whatever plans the govt has, it gets rid of the current situation soon enough.
    This isnt politics. It is settler colonialism that is taking place and for it to be accomplished, the oppressor has to absolutely cripple the local population in every way possible. We've seen this before in history. Thanks for your good wishes.

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    Authorities in Indian-administered Kashmir have ordered the restoration of high-speed 4G internet services in two of the disputed Himalayan region's 20 districts on a "trial basis" from Sunday night, more than a year after they were suspended.

    "The high-speed mobile data services in the districts of Ganderbal and Udhampur shall be restored forthwith, on a trial basis," a government statement said on Sunday, adding that internet speed would continue to be restricted in other districts.

    Udhampur, in Hindu-majority Jammu region, and Gerderbal, in Muslim-dominated Kashmir Valley, have a combined population of 850,000 out of the disputed region's total population of about 12 million.

    The "trial" will last until September 8, and high-speed internet will be available on postpaid mobile phones only, according to the government order.

    "I will update my phones. This is the first thing I intend to do once it is restored," Sheikh Anees, a journalist based in Ganderbal, told Anadolu news agency.

    Internet suspended last August

    The internet had been cut off since last August, when India revoked the semi-autonomous status of Kashmir, divided it into two federally ruled territories and imposed a complete lockdown and communications blackout.

    Kashmir was without internet for 213 days - the longest shutdown in a democracy - until it was restored on March 4.

    India has shut down the internet more times than any other country in recent years, with more than 100 shutdowns reported last year, according to the Internet Shutdown Tracker.

    Numerous human rights groups, including Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch, have repeatedly urged India to restore full internet access in the disputed region, with the calls gaining steam amid the COVID-19 pandemic.

    In May, the Supreme Court said an indefinite shutdown of the internet in the Muslim-majority region was illegal, asking the government to form a committee to consider the restoration of high-speed services.

    The order comes after the committee, headed by the central home secretary, recommended "calibrated easing of internet restrictions in comparatively less sensitive geographical areas."

    Mobile internet services were restored in January after the top court stepped in. However, only government-authorised "whitelisted" websites were accessible. Restrictions on social media remained in force until March 4.

    Authorities had said the security situation was not conducive to restoring mobile internet access.

    Anti-India sentiment runs high in the Muslim-majority region, where armed groups have been fighting for independence or unification with neighbouring Pakistan.

    More than 50,000 civilians have been killed since the armed rebellion erupted in 1989. India has been accused of human rights violations against the rebels and the people of Kashmir.

    Kashmir is held by India and Pakistan in parts and claimed by both in full. A small sliver of Kashmir is also held by China.

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    1st KFC opens in Kashmir a year after abrogation of Article 370

    A year after Article 370 was abrogated and the state of Jammu and Kashmir and Ladakh were bifurcated into Union Territories, we got a glimpse into the new world order as Kentucky Fried Chicken opened its first outlet in Srinagar.

    While KFC had two outlets in Jammu, this was the first one that opened up in Srinagar.



    https://www.freepressjournal.in/indi...up-in-srinagar

    Slowly but surely developement is coming in Kashmir. Good to see.

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    Love this young Lass, speaks the truth, god bless her...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Romali_rotti View Post


    Love this young Lass, speaks the truth, god bless her...
    For the general information of the public here, the woman in this video is NOT A KASHMIRI.

    SHE IS PRETENDING TO BE A KASHMIRI MUSLIM SINCE LAST 1 YEAR. She has been propped up by Indian media for obvious reasons and has been given disproportionate attention.

    She had written anti-Islamic tweets on twitter last year before her stint as a propagandist and when she was called out, she deleted those tweets.

    As per reports, she is of Sindhi origin with the surname "Mirchandani" which she at times writes as "Mir" which is a Kashmiri caste.

    Finally, you hear her talking in this video. You know how she sounds to me as a local Kashmiri? Imagine you give an urdu/hindi script to an Englishman and ask him to recite it. Yes, just like those englishmen speaking hindi in bollywood movies. She sounds like that to me when she tries to speak in Kashmiri and its clear that either she reads from a teleprompter/laptop or has mugged up a script.

    I dont know why they need to do this when there are some actual local Kashmiris ready to sell their souls to the devil. At least be authentic when doing propaganda.
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    A prominent rights group in Indian-administered Kashmir has called India's communications blackout following the scrapping of the disputed region's semi-autonomy last year "collective punishment" and urged the international community to question New Delhi over what it calls "digital apartheid".

    The Jammu-Kashmir Coalition of Civil Society (JKCCS) in its 125-page report released on Tuesday outlined "harms, costs and consequences of the digital siege" since August 2019, when New Delhi stripped the region of its statehood and the semi-autonomy that gave its natives special rights over land ownership and jobs.

    The move, which set off widespread anger, was accompanied by a security clampdown and communications blackout in the region that left hundreds of thousands jobless, impaired the already feeble healthcare system and paused the school and college education of millions.

    "The multi-faceted and targeted denial of digital rights is a systemic form of discrimination, digital repression and collective punishment of the region's residents, particularly in light of India's long history of political repression and atrocities," the report, titled Kashmir's Internet Siege, said.

    Indian officials have repeatedly said the internet ban was aimed at preventing anti-India protests and attacks by rebels who have fought for decades for the region's independence or unification with Pakistan, which administers another portion of Kashmir.

    Both countries claim the landlocked Himalayan region in its entirety.

    India's Hindu nationalist government has argued that the removal of Article 370 of the constitution - which granted special status to Kashmir - was necessary to integrate the Muslim-majority region with India, foster greater economic development and to stop threats from "anti-national elements" and Pakistan.

    Many Kashmiris, however, view the move as the beginning of settler colonialism aimed at engineering a demographic change in India's only Muslim-majority region, a development that could increase the possibility of heightened conflict.

    A curfew was imposed in Srinagar ahead of the first anniversary of the revocation of Article 370 on August 5 [Faisal Khan/Anadolu]
    Although some of the communications restrictions have been removed and the internet on fixed lines has been restored, mobile internet speeds in most of the region remain painstakingly slow.

    Digital rights activists have consistently denounced the internet restrictions and some have called them "far worse censorship than anywhere in the world".

    The conflict in Kashmir has existed since the late 1940s when India and Pakistan won independence from the British Empire and began fighting over rival claims to the Muslim-majority territory. The two rivals have fought two of their three subsequent wars over Kashmir.

    The report released on Tuesday maps the consequences of the longest ever lockdown in the region's turbulent history and its severe effect on livelihoods, education, health and press freedoms.

    The JKCCS said it was based on fieldwork, government documents, court files and media reports.

    Some business in the region resumed following the partial lifting of the clampdown earlier this year. However, Indian authorities enforced another harsh lockdown in March to combat the coronavirus pandemic.

    The Kashmir Chamber of Commerce and Industries pegged the economic losses in the region at $5.3bn and job losses at half a million since August last year.

    During the service blackouts, critically ill patients could not access government healthcare or seek insurance reimbursements online, students could not apply for fellowships or scholarships and distraught families could not connect to relatives outside the region. Local tech companies had to close or relocate to other areas of India.

    "While the Government of India has succeeded in gagging the voices of people of Jammu and Kashmir with its longstanding communication blockade," the report said, "it should not prevent the international community from speaking and calling out the Government of India for suppressing the fundamental rights of people."

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    Won't Ask PM Modi To Reverse What He Has Done In Kashmir: Omar Abdullah

    Omar Abdullah said his 232-day detention period has made him "bitter", "resentful" and "angry" but it won't change his time-tested stand that Jammu and Kashmir "is an integral part of India".

    "Jammu & Kashmir is an integral part of India. As much as I would like to say that my detention and the circumstances of the 5th of August have caused me to shift my thinking on that, it hasn't," he said.

    "Because the position I've taken takes into account all sorts of factors, and I do not believe that Jammu & Kashmir has a future for itself outside of its relationship with India," Mr Abdullah said in an interview to the authors, Pradeep Chhibber and Harsh Shah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    So, Kashmiri folks aren't even allowed to play cricket. That's messed up.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    So, Kashmiri folks aren't even allowed to play cricket. That's messed up.
    Jammu and Kashmir plays in Ranji Trophy and every other domestic tournament. So not sure what makes you think they are not allowed to play cricket. These misguided youths were playing cricket match in memory of a terrorist which is illegal under UAPA act and rightfully being arrested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajdeep View Post
    Jammu and Kashmir plays in Ranji Trophy and every other domestic tournament. So not sure what makes you think they are not allowed to play cricket. These misguided youths were playing cricket match in memory of a terrorist which is illegal under UAPA act and rightfully being arrested.
    They were playing cricket with bat and ball not with guns and grenades lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajdeep View Post
    Jammu and Kashmir plays in Ranji Trophy and every other domestic tournament. So not sure what makes you think they are not allowed to play cricket. These misguided youths were playing cricket match in memory of a terrorist which is illegal under UAPA act and rightfully being arrested.
    It is just a cricket game. Why is it a crime to play cricket?

    This type of unnecessary arrest can result in more dissents.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    They were playing cricket with bat and ball not with guns and grenades lol.
    If they were playing with guns and grenades, they would have been shot down by now like the militant commander himself. So ofcourse they are playing with bat and ball...lol.

    Playing cricket is not the problem but playing in memory of a militant is. India considers Kashmiri militants as terrorists. As per UAPA act, any public gathering gloryfying a criminal/banned terrorists is a criminal offence.

    Well done police.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajdeep View Post
    If they were playing with guns and grenades, they would have been shot down by now like the militant commander himself. So ofcourse they are playing with bat and ball...lol.

    Playing cricket is not the problem but playing in memory of a militant is. India considers Kashmiri militants as terrorists. As per UAPA act, any public gathering gloryfying a criminal/banned terrorists is a criminal offence.

    Well done police.
    How did police know it was done in memory of a "militant"? Do cops follow them everywhere? Are they being spied on?



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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    It is just a cricket game. Why is it a crime to play cricket?

    This type of unnecessary arrest can result in more dissents.
    They are not just playing cricket. They are playing cricket to glorify a terrorist which is illegal as per Indian law. Which part you are struggling to understand?

    It may be unnecessary arrest for you but Indian establishment will work as per Indian law. If it leads to dissent...we know how to tackle it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    How did police know it was done in memory of a "militant"? Do cops follow them everywhere? Are they being spied on?
    Exactly lol. Police has too much time in their hands to follow every local cricket match and check in whose memory they are playing it. Well done police.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    How did police know it was done in memory of a "militant"? Do cops follow them everywhere? Are they being spied on?
    The same way how cops gather news everywhere, by virtue of intelligence. Why would police otherwise book people under UAPA for simply playing cricket match? You do realize right after booking under UAPA, police need to prove their case in court of law? As I said before, if you break law in India...you will be picked up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajdeep View Post
    The same way how cops gather news everywhere, by virtue of intelligence. Why would police otherwise book people under UAPA for simply playing cricket match? You do realize right after booking under UAPA, police need to prove their case in court of law? As I said before, if you break law in India...you will be picked up.
    In that case, Indian cops seem highly paranoid.

    I do not believe you can control a population with spying and frequent arrests. It will likely backfire.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    In that case, Indian cops seem highly paranoid.

    I do not believe you can control a population with spying and frequent arrests. It will likely backfire.
    I hope these cops and intelligence can be used to solve Sushant's case which has been going on and on for the past 2 months. C grade news channels like Republic and Times Now will also get something new to discuss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    In that case, Indian cops seem highly paranoid.

    I do not believe you can control a population with spying and frequent arrests. It will likely backfire.
    Arresting someone for glorifying terrorists may be considered as a paranoa in Bangladesh but in India its a crime. Police's job is to implement the law and not thinking about backlash. Indian police is just doing that i.e implementing the law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajdeep View Post
    Arresting someone for glorifying terrorists may be considered as a paranoa in Bangladesh but in India its a crime. Police's job is to implement the law and not thinking about backlash. Indian police is just doing that i.e implementing the law.
    Pigeon flies. Pigeon gets arrested for spying.

    People play cricket. They get arrested.

    What's next? Arrested for using toilet for too long?

    Very silly.



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    Quote Originally Posted by sweep_shot View Post
    Pigeon flies. Pigeon gets arrested for spying.

    People play cricket. They get arrested.

    What's next? Arrested for using toilet for too long?

    Very silly.
    Silly may be for you but playing cricket in India in memory of a terrorist is a crime. Quiet surprised that you are not able to grasp this simple thing.

    This is what Kashmiri newspaper has to say. If media can get the news, what makes you think police cant?

    10 Kashmiri youths booked under UAPA for playing cricket match ‘in memory of slain militant’

    Ten youths, including the brother of a slain militant, have been booked under the Unlawful Activities Prevention Act (UAPA) for organising and taking part in a cricket tourney here in the memory of slain Hizb militant Syed Ruban.

    Ruban was killed in an encounter on January 21 last year at Hapatnad in Chrar-i-Sharif area of Budgam district. He was a cousin of arrested militant commander Syed Naveed, who was arrested alongside J&K police Dysp Davender Singh.

    A police source said that the 10 youths have been booked under UAPA Section 13, FIR number 206, at police station Shopian.
    The Print reported that “The individual (Tajamul) had distributed some jerseys and organised the event in the memory of his brother killed in 2019. As a result of this, a massive number of people had gathered to watch the cricket tournament. As of now, 10 individuals have been booked under the UAPA.”

    “Clearly the event was held with an intention to glorify insurgency here,” The Print quoted a police officer as saying.

    https://kashmirreader.com/2020/09/05...s-in-uapa-net/

    So job well done by police.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajdeep View Post
    Arresting someone for glorifying terrorists may be considered as a paranoa in Bangladesh but in India its a crime. Police's job is to implement the law and not thinking about backlash. Indian police is just doing that i.e implementing the law.
    I give you that. Indian police is one of the best when it comes to implementing the law as long as the offender is from the minority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    I give you that. Indian police is one of the best when it comes to implementing the law as long as the offender is from the minority.
    If a minority does a crime (like Tahir Hussain) they will definitely pay for it. Aren't you aware, this victim card is a thing of past and dont work here anymore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajdeep View Post
    If a minority does a crime (like Tahir Hussain) they will definitely pay for it. Aren't you aware, this victim card is a thing of past and dont work here anymore?
    Thanks for proving my point.

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    May Allah SWT help our Kashmiri brothers and sisters and strengthen their patience and imaan. All these news about killings of innocent people are hurting.


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    How is Imran Khan's progress to help Kashmir? @syed @BewalExpress @MenInG @Madplayer

    Surely if Pak does not have the power to take IOK and india doesn't have the power to take Azad Kashmir, then a population swap is on the cards. It's a difficult move to go away from your home but it's the safest option from the brutal rapist indian army. India does not care about about the civilians, so is this an option?

    It's a bitter pill to swallow for both Pak and India but possibly a solution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msaaim89 View Post
    How is Imran Khan's progress to help Kashmir? @syed @BewalExpress @MenInG @Madplayer

    Surely if Pak does not have the power to take IOK and india doesn't have the power to take Azad Kashmir, then a population swap is on the cards. It's a difficult move to go away from your home but it's the safest option from the brutal rapist indian army. India does not care about about the civilians, so is this an option?

    It's a bitter pill to swallow for both Pak and India but possibly a solution?
    I dont understand what swap means here. If you could kindly explain in detail. People on both sides of the LOC are Kashmiris.

    On a side note, Kashmiris are a distinct people with a unique culture and in the entire world they have only one small piece of land which they can call home. What a travesty that even this small piece of land is being taken from them rendering them, in essence, homeless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    I dont understand what swap means here. If you could kindly explain in detail. People on both sides of the LOC are Kashmiris.

    On a side note, Kashmiris are a distinct people with a unique culture and in the entire world they have only one small piece of land which they can call home. What a travesty that even this small piece of land is being taken from them rendering them, in essence, homeless.
    In the absence of Pak/Ind resolving the Kashmr issue - I am raising an alternative option of having the civilians in IOK given the option of moving to Azad Kashmir. I know it's not a nice option of having to move away from your ancestral lands however given that india is not going to stop it's lethal behaviour, perhaps it's something that can be considered?

    I'm only making this suggestion as I'm sick of seeing the Kashmiris themselves suffer from a brutal occupation. Obviously the Kashmiris will need to agree to it themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msaaim89 View Post
    In the absence of Pak/Ind resolving the Kashmr issue - I am raising an alternative option of having the civilians in IOK given the option of moving to Azad Kashmir. I know it's not a nice option of having to move away from your ancestral lands however given that india is not going to stop it's lethal behaviour, perhaps it's something that can be considered?

    I'm only making this suggestion as I'm sick of seeing the Kashmiris themselves suffer from a brutal occupation. Obviously the Kashmiris will need to agree to it themselves.
    This would play right into the Humsaaya Mulk’s hands. A refrain we’ve heard over the years, including on this very forum by the more shameless ones from across the border, is that Kashmiris who yearn for a union with Pakistan are welcome to it: all they have to do is cross the LOC permanently, but the land belongs to the HM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    On a side note, Kashmiris are a distinct people with a unique culture and in the entire world they have only one small piece of land which they can call home
    Every state in India has its own language, culture and distinctness. Kashmir is no different or unique from any other indian state in that regard.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nostalgic View Post
    This would play right into the Humsaaya Mulk’s hands. A refrain we’ve heard over the years, including on this very forum by the more shameless ones from across the border, is that Kashmiris who yearn for a union with Pakistan are welcome to it: all they have to do is cross the LOC permanently, but the land belongs to the HM.
    HM tries to claim entirety of Kashmir.

    If both nations can't just give up land back to independent Kashmir, I can't see what else can be done.

    At present, and for the past 50+ years, India has been causing the Kashmiris to suffer and this needs to stop.

    What is your suggestion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by msaaim89 View Post
    HM tries to claim entirety of Kashmir.

    If both nations can't just give up land back to independent Kashmir, I can't see what else can be done.

    At present, and for the past 50+ years, India has been causing the Kashmiris to suffer and this needs to stop.

    What is your suggestion?
    Giving up their land simply isn’t an option. The HM is about to flood the state with outsiders anyhow. An exodus of Kashmiris out of the state would only exacerbate this demographic change. I can’t speak for them, but I imagine if I were in their shoes, I would stay put rather than play into the enemy’s hands. Those of us who are overseas voluntarily for banal financial reasons are nevertheless no strangers to the anguish of being away from our native lands. Imagine the degree of anguish for someone compelled to leave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msaaim89 View Post
    In the absence of Pak/Ind resolving the Kashmr issue - I am raising an alternative option of having the civilians in IOK given the option of moving to Azad Kashmir. I know it's not a nice option of having to move away from your ancestral lands however given that india is not going to stop it's lethal behaviour, perhaps it's something that can be considered?

    I'm only making this suggestion as I'm sick of seeing the Kashmiris themselves suffer from a brutal occupation. Obviously the Kashmiris will need to agree to it themselves.
    I understand your sentiments but leaving the land is not an option. This is all we have. Where will a Kashmiri be if not in Kashmir?

    Believe me, we here in Kashmir are living in absolutely mind wrecking conditions. The latest action of Indians to terrorise Kashmiris is that they've turned body snatchers. They kill people extra-judicially, term them militants and then bury the bodies in undisclosed locations or hundreds of miles away from their homes. Do you see what they are doing? They are denying the families their right to mourn the dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomaskutty View Post
    Every state in India has its own language, culture and distinctness. Kashmir is no different or unique from any other indian state in that regard.
    You wont understand what I am saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nostalgic View Post
    Giving up their land simply isn’t an option. The HM is about to flood the state with outsiders anyhow. An exodus of Kashmiris out of the state would only exacerbate this demographic change. I can’t speak for them, but I imagine if I were in their shoes, I would stay put rather than play into the enemy’s hands. Those of us who are overseas voluntarily for banal financial reasons are nevertheless no strangers to the anguish of being away from our native lands. Imagine the degree of anguish for someone compelled to leave.
    And there is more to it. I understand the love and brotherhood that is claimed by Kashmiris on both sides of the border but such a massive influx of refugees will surely become a burden on the people in AJK which will result in strife. And we dont want to see it get to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    I understand your sentiments but leaving the land is not an option. This is all we have. Where will a Kashmiri be if not in Kashmir?

    Believe me, we here in Kashmir are living in absolutely mind wrecking conditions. The latest action of Indians to terrorise Kashmiris is that they've turned body snatchers. They kill people extra-judicially, term them militants and then bury the bodies in undisclosed locations or hundreds of miles away from their homes. Do you see what they are doing? They are denying the families their right to mourn the dead.
    You seem to be doing fine in a so called Nazi state with a)access to the internet b)language skills, not sure how many people who go to schools in POK can string 2 sentences of English together and c) you seem to be doing fine posting anti government rhetoric all the time.

    So may be things aren’t that bad after all. Focus on your personal growth and trust me things will look better and you won’t find so many problems. It’s not like anyone is holding you back, if you can’t contribute now what is miraculously going to change if Kashmir is independent, part of india, Pakistan or China?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    I understand your sentiments but leaving the land is not an option. This is all we have. Where will a Kashmiri be if not in Kashmir?
    Awwwww.. Say that to the Pandits that were driven out in the 100s of thousands. Bunch of hypocrites....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Local.Dada View Post
    Focus on your personal growth and trust me things will look better and you won’t find so many problems.
    They will never do that, they do not have the mental capacity to figure this out.

    Article 370 was given to them on a royal platter by Pakistan's greatest unsung hero Nehru.

    Under the protection of Article 370:

    - Kashmiris can live in peace and prosperously in Kashmir
    - No one from Mainland India would have any rights or privileges in Kashmir,
    - However these Kashmiris will get full privileges in Mainland India.

    What do they do in return ? Rape, kill, massacre and drive of thousands of Pandits and cause terror and chaos..

    You cant reason with them, you cant be civil with evil. They deserve nothing, they are in this mess due to their evil and so they can suffer for it till the end of the world.. They can sit there and cry to the Pakistanis all they want, end of the day barring a few majestic words like 'one day they will be liberated' nothing will change for them....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Romali_rotti View Post
    They will never do that, they do not have the mental capacity to figure this out.

    Article 370 was given to them on a royal platter by Pakistan's greatest unsung hero Nehru.

    Under the protection of Article 370:

    - Kashmiris can live in peace and prosperously in Kashmir
    - No one from Mainland India would have any rights or privileges in Kashmir,
    - However these Kashmiris will get full privileges in Mainland India.

    What do they do in return ? Rape, kill, massacre and drive of thousands of Pandits and cause terror and chaos..

    You cant reason with them, you cant be civil with evil. They deserve nothing, they are in this mess due to their evil and so they can suffer for it till the end of the world.. They can sit there and cry to the Pakistanis all they want, end of the day barring a few majestic words like 'one day they will be liberated' nothing will change for them....
    Exactly. Most guys just parrot these words like Azaadi, in fact it is dangerous to give Azaadi to people without a plan. What are these guys going to do next? An entire generation of Kashmiris have become either radical or even the good ones have suffered due to the problem. They haven’t produced a single positive influencer in recent times. The one they did, that girl who acted in Dangal was threatened by the Mullahs. Last thing india needs is another hostile and radicalized neighbor.

    These guys should first think of building their state and then maybe everyone can revisit Azaadi.

    My kid wants Azaadi every morning but I have to ensure she goes to school for her own good, eventually they can decide. Same principle applies here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Local.Dada View Post
    You seem to be doing fine in a so called Nazi state with a)access to the internet b)language skills, not sure how many people who go to schools in POK can string 2 sentences of English together and c) you seem to be doing fine posting anti government rhetoric all the time.

    So may be things aren’t that bad after all. Focus on your personal growth and trust me things will look better and you won’t find so many problems. It’s not like anyone is holding you back, if you can’t contribute now what is miraculously going to change if Kashmir is independent, part of india, Pakistan or China?
    This is mostly gibberish with no connection with the reality. How do you know where i have studied or where i am right now? What do you know about people of AJK? I dont know how to respond to this speculative nonsense.

    Quote Originally Posted by Romali_rotti View Post
    Awwwww.. Say that to the Pandits that were driven out in the 100s of thousands. Bunch of hypocrites....
    I say it to them all the time. They know they are equally exploited by the Indian state and moreover used as pawns.


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