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    Quote Originally Posted by Technics 1210 View Post
    Methane is one of the largest contributing gases to the Ozone layer hole. The number 1 contributor of methane gas is cattle. Not a human act, but a natural occurrence of a gas.

    I am saying that climate change is a natural cycle and that governments will find any old excuse to tax the poor while instilling fear into society.
    Cattle were domesticated by humans, and only have such a large population due to human demand for meat and milk. Take New Zealand for example, we have around 11 million cows (compared to under 5 million humans) even though cows are not even native to this country.

    Methane is an agricultural emission, and not only depletes the Ozone layer, but is in fact the second-largest greenhouse gas, and its impact on global temperature rise is 28x worse than carbon dioxide. Nitrous oxide, the third-largest greenhouse gas, is also produced from agriculture, and it is 300x worse than carbon dioxide


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    Quote Originally Posted by Energy View Post
    That's what happens you copy&paste stuff without understanding what it says. Read the pie-chart again, it includes transport and electricity on it too. Both of these are demand-based user entities.

    Policy makers have already made RE, EV available to public. Why are you not buying a Tesla and installing solar cells on your house?
    And this is what happens when you're unrealistic.

    How many people can afford a Tesla? Forget Tesla find me any electric vehicle for AU$2500 and I'll buy it right now. The electric vehicle market isn't as mainstream as you are making it out to be. And yes I did read transport there but switching to electric cars isn't affordable and there's not enough options. You have to give people alternatives before you criticize them for their commuting options. Also criticizing people for moving to cities is just unbelievable.

    I have to ask which world are you living in? The whole world is dependent on electricity and you want everyone to just switch off and go back to the dark ages lol. Provide alternatives and be realistic. I've already mentioned multiple renewable/clean sources of energy which are already in use in many countries of the world. It is just a matter of implementation and not getting bullied by energy and oil companies.

    Oh, and mind you I do use solar panels at my house so keep your judgements to yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Energy View Post
    That's precisely what I'm saying. You can't stop anyone legally from choosing comfort/money over environment, whether that is at individual, business or government level.
    But I never said that you should forcibly prevent anyone from choosing comfort/money over environment. If you actually read the rest of the post which you left unbolded, I said specifically it takes time to educate people as to why they need to give up some things for the environment, I even gave the example of free carrier bags to make this point.

    Climate change and the environment isn't an issue for individual govts, it is a global issue at the end of the day. If the govts in South America decide it is ok to burn down the rain forests for the good of their own economy, it will affect everyone at some point.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hadi Rizvi View Post
    I think a bit more knowledge of the subject would have completely changed your perspective.

    https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/sou...-gas-emissions
    According to the US Environmental Protection Agency commercial and residential activities only contribute about 12% of all greenhouse gas emissions. Hence disproving you point about a change in lifestyle being necessary.

    What we need a change in, is the source of our energy. Fossil fuels aren't gonna last forever and their use causes climate change too hence we have to move towards cleaner/renewable sources of energy like hydrogen/wind/solar/tidal/hydroelectric/nuclear etc. These transitions don't require people's will. They require the collective effort of the millionaires, billionaires and policy-makers of this world so that their funding can be invested into R&D for developing more efficient/cleaner/renewable processes for energy generation and large-scale effective implementation of these technologies in everyday lives of the people. If companies keep worrying about their quarterly target profits then just the people's will can't do jack about anything. Hence policy-makers deserve the blame that they get.
    Governments can introduce policy instruments to persuade market changes. For example the UK government encouraged people to purchase PV panels and sell energy back to the grid. This encouraged British citizens to install 800,000 generators in twenty years.

    The Duchy of Cornwall in SW UK is now producing 33% of consumed power from renewables - wind turbines, solar farms and energy from waste incineration. Geothermal power from deep radioactive ‘hot rocks’ is on the way, and an onshore wind farm and tidal lagoon in attempt to go carbon-neutral by 2030.

    Eventually the market will dictate a change to renewables, particularly as oil and gas run out.

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    Scientists have calculated that 995 of the Carbon on Earth is beneath our feat.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-49899039

    Another blow for the scaremongers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Technics 1210 View Post
    Scientists have calculated that 995 of the Carbon on Earth is beneath our feat.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-49899039

    Another blow for the scaremongers.
    Mate, it says Carbon.

    Carbon by itself isn't a greenhouse gas, genius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hadi Rizvi View Post
    Mate, it says Carbon.

    Carbon by itself isn't a greenhouse gas, genius.
    Thanks for the insight, but sadly for the scaremongers, Greenhouse gasses are not causing climate change, genius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Technics 1210 View Post
    Thanks for the insight, but sadly for the scaremongers, Greenhouse gasses are not causing climate change, genius.
    Do you even know why Carbon Dioxide is called a greenhouse gas?
    It causes the greenhouse effect which is a cause of climate change.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_gas

    I mean...I didn't even need to go to Google Scholar.
    I just assumed Wikipedia should be enough for certified illiterates.

    It's getting harder and harder to take you seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Technics 1210 View Post
    Scientists have calculated that 995 of the Carbon on Earth is beneath our feat.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-49899039

    Another blow for the scaremongers.
    Yes, and we are pulling it out of the ground where it was safely sequestered over millions of years and shoving it back into the atmosphere in just 150 years! That's why the carbon cycle is out of whack!

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    Switzerland Election - Green Party Is On The Rise

    Climate change has risen to the top of Switzerland's political agenda and observers are eyeing a possible "green tsunami" in 20 October elections.

    For decades Switzerland has been dominated by four main parties; the Swiss People's Party, the Social Democrats, the Radical Party and the Christian Democrats.

    But as the glaciers melt, the president of the Green party's youth wing sees an opportunity.

    "This is our year," says Maja Haus.

    "There is a climate crisis, and for the Green party this is a huge chance, because we have the answers to this problem: 2019 will be the climate elections."

    How big is the green wave?
    In the run-up to the vote the Green party has overtaken the Christian Democrats in the opinion polls. If those polls translate into seats, the Christian Democrats' place in Switzerland's seven-member government looks shaky.

    Including the more fiscally conservative Green Liberals, who are also polling well, greens could be a significant force in parliament. Latest opinion polls give them a combined 18% of the vote, a comfortable second place.

    But this election is about more than just a rise in support for green parties. "There was a lot going on in Switzerland during the last year," says Fabian Molina, who at the age of 29 is already a member of parliament for the Social Democrats.

    "We had a women's strike, we had a climate strike, people want change."

    In June this year hundreds of thousands of women across Switzerland took to the streets to call for equal pay and conditions, and an end to discrimination.

    It was, the Swiss Trades Union Federation said, the biggest political demonstration Switzerland had ever seen.

    All year climate strikes have been taking place, culminating in a huge rally in Berne in September, with 100,000 people taking part.

    The protests are a sign, says political analyst Barbara Perriard, that voters are energised, and some voters in particular.

    "We have a lot more women candidates this year," she says. "An increase of 40% on the last elections. And we have more than 450 candidates who were not eligible to vote in 2015, so that means young citizens want to participate in politics."

    How has climate change influenced young candidates?
    Among those standing is 21-year-old Alicia Badnod. For her, climate change and the environment are the top issues.

    She is not standing for the Green party, but rather as an independent because, she believes, young people have lost '"hope in the mainstream parties".

    Kelmy Martinez, also 21, is taking a different approach.

    He too puts climate at the top of his political priorities, but he is standing for the Social Democrats, one of Switzerland's oldest parties, and currently the second biggest in parliament.

    What is striking is that key issues that have mobilised Swiss voters in the past, specifically immigration, and relations with the European Union, are just not cutting through with these young people.

    Alicia remembers being put off, during the last election in 2015, by the focus, particularly from the right-wing Swiss People's Party, on the dangers of immigration.

    "It's easier to tell someone you are scared," she explains, "and then to tell them we will make your fears disappear, but the reality of Europe right now is multicultural."

    Is Swiss populism in decline?
    The Swiss People's Party remains the largest in parliament. It has campaigned for over a decade on two key messages: restrictions on immigration and asylum seekers, and limiting non-EU member Switzerland's ties with Brussels.

    When President Donald Trump's former adviser Steve Bannon came to Zurich last year, he praised Switzerland, and the Swiss People's Party, for being the cradle of populism. But this year, even among older voters, other issues seem more important: the cost of healthcare, pensions and, again, climate change.

    When the People's Party unveiled an eye-catching campaign poster, showing a perfect Swiss red apple being eaten by worms, one of which wore the blue flag and gold stars of the EU, there was widespread criticism, even from within the party.

    Still the party hopes to retain a big share of the vote and has, some would say belatedly, come out with a policy on climate change, one that will appeal to its traditional supporters in the farming community.

    "What we believe would be beneficial for the climate is that people buy local," says People's Party member of parliament Andreas Ott. "And buy seasonal, that is one of the main levers for the Swiss to reduce our climate footprint."

    Who will win?
    When all the votes are counted on Sunday, there will be, as ever in Switzerland, no outright winner. The entire system is designed, explains political scientist Andreas Ladner, to give all views a voice, but no single party too much power.

    "If you want to understand the Swiss system you have to know this culture. We are a small country. We don't like strong leaders. It is more important to integrate everybody, into government, into political responsibilities."

    There will be no green tsunami, then, but, if the polls are right, a drop in votes for the Swiss People's Party, and an increase for the Greens.

    No big overnight change, but a gradual shift towards more environmental policies. Many eager new members of parliament, and the old, will have to work together, to find compromises. It's the Swiss way, and suggests Andreas Ladner with a wry smile, it might "be an example for other countries".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hadi Rizvi View Post
    Do you even know why Carbon Dioxide is called a greenhouse gas?
    It causes the greenhouse effect which is a cause of climate change.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_gas

    I mean...I didn't even need to go to Google Scholar.
    I just assumed Wikipedia should be enough for certified illiterates.

    It's getting harder and harder to take you seriously.
    METHANE

    Look it up and get a refund from your school.

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    Thousands Take Part in Brazil to Clean Up Beaches From Spilled Oil and Tar

    Thousands of people have taken part in a huge clean-up operation to remove oil and tar from beaches along Brazil's north-eastern coast. Volunteers, as well as government workers, used wheelbarrows, spades and plastic gloves to remove the thick tar from the sand and water.

    The source of the spill, which was first detected on 2 September, remains a mystery. It has affected wildlife and popular beaches including Praia do Futuro in Ceará, Maragogi in Alagoas, and Itacaré and Ilhéus in Bahia.

    At least 15 sea turtles, two seabirds and one fish have been found dead, the environmental agency Ibama said. Experts say this could be the worst disaster for the region's coral reefs.

    It was not clear if the volume of oil was increasing or decreasing and how long the problem, which has affected 187 places in nine states, will last.

    On Thursday, Ibama President Eduardo Bim said tests had proved the crude oil was produced in Venezuela but officials had not been able to identify the vessel responsible for the leak.

    This did not mean that Venezuela was responsible for the leak, he added, describing the case as "unprecedented". Venezuela, however, has denied responsibility for the oil.

    The incident is more challenging than a typical oil spill because the dense crude is not floating on the surface and only appears when it washes up on shore, Mr Bim was quoted by Reuters news agency as saying.

    Floating barriers usually employed to prevent oil from washing ashore have little effect, for example, so the work has been focused on cleaning up the crude as it comes to the coast.

    In Pernambuco state, 30 tonnes of oil were removed from beaches on Saturday alone.

    Meanwhile, federal prosecutors have accused the federal government of failing to organise a response, saying the spill has caused environmental damage in an area spanning 2,100km (1,300 miles).
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    Green parties have made strong gains in Switzerland's parliamentary election, according to initial projections.

    The anti-immigration Swiss People's Party (SVP) is set to remain the largest party, despite losing at least 3% of its support.

    But projections show a combined vote for the two green parties of around 20%.

    Their gains reflect voters' concerns over climate change, seen as the dominant issue in this election.

    Not all votes have been counted yet but the national broadcaster projected the Green Party's share surged 5.6 points to 12.7% of the vote, while the smaller, more centrist Green Liberal Party (GLP) garnered 7.6%.

    The Green Party looked set to overtake one of the parties in the coalition government, the Christian Democrats (CVP), and could for the first time get a seat in the coalition that governs Switzerland.

    "It is not a green wave, it is a tsunami, a hurricane," deputy party leader Celina Vara told Swiss radio.

    The centre-left Socialists looked set to take second place with 16.5% of the votes, and the centre-right Liberals (FDP) were on track to come in third with 15.2%.

    If the two Green parties are able to overcome policy differences and unite, they would represent a potent political force.

    As is usual in Switzerland, no single party is expected to secure a majority.

    For decades, the seven-seat Federal Council has been dominated by the same four main parties: the SVP, the Social Democrats, the FDP liberals and the CVP, says the BBC's Imogen Foulkes in Geneva.

    The SVP, which is set to remain the largest party in parliament, has campaigned for over a decade on two key messages: restrictions on immigration and asylum seekers, and limiting non-EU member Switzerland's ties with Brussels.

    But these issues were scarcely mentioned in the election campaign, and climate change dominated as the single most important issue.

    All year, climate strikes have been taking place in the country, culminating in a huge rally in Bern in September that drew 100,000 people.

    The Swiss have only to look up to see the effects of climate change: the Alpine glaciers are melting, and rock and mud slides are threatening mountain communities, our correspondent says.

    But the election campaign was about more than just a rise in support for green parties.

    A record 40% of candidates for the national council were women (as were more than a third of those standing for the second house, the chamber of states).

    In June this year, hundreds of thousands of women across Switzerland took to the streets to call for equal pay and conditions, and an end to discrimination.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Technics 1210 View Post
    METHANE

    Look it up and get a refund from your school.
    What's your evidence that global warming and climate change isn't happenning outside the usual cycle?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danyaalr01 View Post

    What's your evidence that global warming and climate change isn't happenning outside the usual cycle?
    The term Global Warming died a quick death and re-branded to Climate Change.

    Sun and Moon effect our climate, and how Methane is one of the of the biggest contributors (if not the biggest) to *greenhouse* gases. It's ALL NATURAL.

    Get over it, you should be studying instead of falling for hoaxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Technics 1210 View Post
    The term Global Warming died a quick death and re-branded to Climate Change.

    Sun and Moon effect our climate, and how Methane is one of the of the biggest contributors (if not the biggest) to *greenhouse* gases. It's ALL NATURAL.

    Get over it, you should be studying instead of falling for hoaxes.
    Can you please cite me the scientific journal articles that prove that the sun and moon are the main reason our climate is warming these days? The fact is that these days, the sun is actually getting cooler.

    Also, yes methane is a huge contributor to climate change, but are you really that naive to think methane emissions are something natural? Methane is the result of humans farming millions of cattle all around the world. If cattle were not farm animals, they would not be so numerous, we are the ones who helped their populations explode.

    I have done actual research, made a conference paper, and have done extensive review of climate change literature, I know what I'm talking about. You can't just call the efforts of thousands of climate scientists and engineers worldwide a 'hoax'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Technics 1210 View Post
    The term Global Warming died a quick death and re-branded to Climate Change.

    Sun and Moon effect our climate, and how Methane is one of the of the biggest contributors (if not the biggest) to *greenhouse* gases. It's ALL NATURAL.

    Get over it, you should be studying instead of falling for hoaxes.
    You do realise that it's called climate change because the climate will change/is changing due to global warming.

    Did you every study chemistry? You are the one that needs to study instead of falling to dumb conspiracy theories.

    Carbon dioxide, methane, and halocarbons are greenhouse gases that absorb a wide range of energy—including infrared energy (heat) emitted by the Earth—and then re-emit it. The re-emitted energy travels out in all directions, but some returns to Earth, where it heats the surface. As the concentration of these gases increase more energy is absorbed and the surface temperature of the Earth rises.

    Another greenhouse gas is Nitrous Oxide (NO2). This is mainly produced in carbon fired power plants and in combustion engines.

    If there were no greenhouse gases then the Earth would be a ball of ice.

    Yes there are cycles where the Earth cools and heats, but it never gets this bad. People have been living in the Balochistan and interior Sindh region of Pakistan for thousanss of years, but it has never been almost uninhabitable. These places are on the verge of being impossible to live in. It is predicted that Pakistan, Iran and many parts of India will be uninhabitable in the near future.

    All these facts have been thoroughly researced and backed by experiments and knowledgable scientists who have spent their whole lives studying this. How much research and experiments have you done. Are you even any type of scientist or actually did well in science subjects that you can be so sure Climate change is a hoax.

    Let me guess, you also believe in the Flat Earth and anti-vax movements.

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    Greta Thunberg has turned down an environmental award and prize money because "the climate movement does not need any more awards".

    She said the offer was a "great honour" and thanked the Nordic Council, which said it respected her decision.

    But, she said, "politicians and the people in power" need to listen to the "current, best-available science".

    Ms Thunberg was this year's favourite to win the Nobel Peace Prize, but the award went to Ethiopia's Abiy Ahmed.

    In an Instagram post explaining her decision to turn down the prize money of 500,000 kronor (£40,000; €46,000), Ms Thunberg said: "The Nordic countries have a great reputation around the world when it comes to climate and environmental issues.

    "There is no lack of bragging about this. There is no lack of beautiful words."

    But she said Nordic energy consumption told "a whole other story".

    She referenced a report from from WWF and the Global Footprint Network, which says Sweden, along with most of the Nordic region, lives as if the world has the resources of four planets.

    The gap between what science said was needed to limit a global temperature increase and what was being implemented was "gigantic", said Ms Thunberg.

    "We belong to the countries that have the possibility to do the most. And yet our countries still basically do nothing," she added.

    The president of the Nordic Council, Hans Wallmark, said the organisation respected Greta Thunberg's decision and called her movement "a good cause for everyone".

    He said the council - which encourages co-operation between parliaments in countries including Denmark, Finland and Ms Thunberg's home country Sweden - would think carefully about what to do with the prize money.


    Who else has turned down an award?

    Jean-Paul Sartre refused the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1964. He said he "always declined official honours" as he did not want to be "turned into an institution"

    Musician David Bowie turned down a CBE in the UK in 2000 and a knighthood in 2003. He told The Sun: "I would never have any intention of accepting anything like that. I seriously don't know what it's for"

    Vietnamese politician Le Duc Tho was jointly offered the Nobel Peace Prize in 1973 with US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger for negotiating an armistice in Vietnam. Tho refused the award as the war between Vietnam and the USA was ongoing, and he accused Kissinger of violating a truce

    "It's not what I spent my life working for," David Bowie said of a knighthood

    Author Virginia Woolf declined the Companion of Honour in 1935 and honorary degrees from Manchester and Liverpool as she considered awards a symptom of the patriarchy

    British poet Benjamin Zephaniah refused an OBE honour (standing for Order of the British Empire) in 2003 as the word "empire" reminded him of "slavery" and "thousands of years of brutality", he told The Guardian. There have been calls to change the name of the title

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    Leonardo DiCaprio was impressed when he met Greta Thunberg.

    The actor shared a picture of himself with the climate change activist on Instagram.

    He wrote he hoped "Greta's message is a wake-up call to world leaders everywhere" and that the "time for inaction is over."

    He also praised the teenager for her work and said because of her he is "optimistic about what the future holds".

    The image has had almost 4 million likes since it was posted 22 hours ago.

    Greta Thunberg has helped start an international youth movement against climate change.

    The Swedish teenager first staged a "School Strike for Climate" in front of the Swedish Parliament in August last year.

    Her strike has inspired students from around the world, leading tens of thousands of students from Germany, Japan, the UK, Australia and many more to join her #FridaysforFuture demonstrations.

    Leo wrote: "There are few times in human history where voices are amplified at such pivotal moments and in such transformational ways but @GretaThunberg has become a leader of our time.

    "History will judge us for what we do today to help guarantee that future generations can enjoy the same liveable planet that we have so clearly taken for granted."

    The Hollywood star has also been outspoken about environmental issues.

    He told Newsbeat in 2016 he thinks climate change is the biggest issue facing young people today.

    He has a foundation which describes itself as being dedicated to addressing climate change and environmental threats to life on Earth.

    His organisation recently put $5m (£4.1m) towards helping the Amazon rainforest after the recent outbreak of fires there.

    He said it was "an honor to spend time with Greta. She and I have made a commitment to support one another, in hopes of securing a brighter future for our planet."
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    Greta Thunberg stranded as climate summit moves from Chile to Spain

    Without further ado, Ms Thunberg tore up the South American leg of her itinerary. “I’ll need some help,” she tweeted. “It turns out I’ve travelled half (sic) around the world, the wrong way. Now I need to find a way to cross the Atlantic in November. If anyone could help me find transport I would be so grateful.”
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/n...pain-23zc87jd2

    Perhaps she should not have bunked school and stayed in class to learn how to read a map.

    This is the problem with people who believe this hoax, blame solves nothing, solutions are required not, scapegoats and accusations. Now she is stranded tying to hitch hike her way to a climate summit on eco friendly transport.

    Someone needs to introduce video conferencing to her!

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    The Russians saying it as it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Technics 1210 View Post
    Greta Thunberg stranded as climate summit moves from Chile to Spain



    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/n...pain-23zc87jd2

    Perhaps she should not have bunked school and stayed in class to learn how to read a map.

    This is the problem with people who believe this hoax, blame solves nothing, solutions are required not, scapegoats and accusations. Now she is stranded tying to hitch hike her way to a climate summit on eco friendly transport.

    Someone needs to introduce video conferencing to her!
    Sure, but then why don't you trust the science, and why do you decide to believe that climate change is a hoax based on politics? For the few politicians playing the blame game, there are many scientists and regular people proposing and pushing for solutions.

    Of course, it's because you want to believe in pseudo-science because it fits your political beliefs better. Why don't you answer my question from above? Where are the scientific journal articles that conclusively prove that climate change is not caused by humans, rather, it's caused by the sun and moon?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Technics 1210 View Post
    Greta Thunberg stranded as climate summit moves from Chile to Spain



    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/n...pain-23zc87jd2

    Perhaps she should not have bunked school and stayed in class to learn how to read a map.

    This is the problem with people who believe this hoax, blame solves nothing, solutions are required not, scapegoats and accusations. Now she is stranded tying to hitch hike her way to a climate summit on eco friendly transport.

    Someone needs to introduce video conferencing to her!
    I’ve been so mistaken calling you Intellectual Heavyweight.

    I apologise for any offence. I was totally wrong.

    From now on you’ll be known as The Genuis

    What’s your alma mater? Must Imperial or Oxbridge? Probably Harvard. Am I right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Technics 1210 View Post
    The term Global Warming died a quick death and re-branded to Climate Change.

    Sun and Moon effect our climate, and how Methane is one of the of the biggest contributors (if not the biggest) to *greenhouse* gases. It's ALL NATURAL.

    Get over it, you should be studying instead of falling for hoaxes.
    What should we study?

    I for one can’t wait for you to present the scientific papers Hussain requested from you.

    On a side note, are you familiar with the Dunning-Kruger effect?

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    The United States has formally notified the United Nations of its intention to withdraw from the Paris Agreement.

    The notification begins a one-year process of exiting the global climate change accord, culminating the day after the 2020 US election.

    The agreement brought together 188 nations to combat climate change.

    Announcing the plan last month, US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said the agreement had imposed an "unfair economic burden" on the United States.

    The Paris agreement committed the US and 187 other countries to keeping rising global temperatures below 2C above pre-industrial levels and attempting to limit them even more, to a 1.5C rise.

    The decision to withdraw - taken by President Donald Trump - made the US the world's sole non-signatory and prompted high-level efforts by the European Union to keep the agreement on track.

    A report issued in December 2018 by the Institute of International and European Affairs suggested President Trump's decision to leave had done "very real damage" to the Paris agreement, creating "moral and political cover for others to follow suit".

    The report cited the examples of Russia and Turkey, which both declined to ratify the deal despite signing.

    The US issued its formal notification on the first day it was possible to do so, firing the starting gun on the long process of extricating the country from the 2015 agreement. The withdrawal is still subject to the outcome of next year's US presidential election - if Mr Trump loses, the winner may decide to change course.

    But scientists and environmentalists fear the effect the Trump administration will have on climate protections in the meantime. It has conducted what critics have called a seek-and-destroy mission against US environmental legislation.

    Mr Trump promised to turn the US into an energy superpower, and has attempted to sweep away a raft of pollution legislation to reduce the cost of producing gas, oil and coal. He characterised former US President Barack Obama’s environmental clean-up plans as a war on American energy.

    Announcing his decision to withdraw, last year, Mr Trump said: "I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris. I promised I would exit or re-negotiate any deal which fails to serve America's interests."

    But reports suggest the Trump administration made no effort to renegotiate the Paris agreement, waiting instead until the first possible day to exit.

    The US contributes about 15% of global emissions of carbon, but it is also a significant source of finance and technology for developing countries in their efforts to fight rising temperatures.

    What was agreed in Paris?
    Climate change, or global warming, refers to the damaging effect of gases, or emissions, released from industry and agriculture on the atmosphere. The Paris accord is meant to limit the global rise in temperature attributed to emissions.

    Countries agreed to:

    Keep global temperatures "well below" the level of 2C (3.6F) above pre-industrial times and "endeavour to limit" them even more, to 1.5C
    Limit the amount of greenhouse gases emitted by human activity to the same levels that trees, soil and oceans can absorb naturally, beginning at some point between 2050 and 2100
    Review each country's contribution to cutting emissions every five years so they scale up to the challenge
    Enable rich countries to help poorer nations by providing "climate finance" to adapt to climate change and switch to renewable energy
    Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50297029.


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    Actually this situation perfectly illustrates the utter stupidity and hypocrisy of travelling halfway around the world just to attend a conference on the issue of cutting carbon emissions, in a yacht built from carbon fibre. I mean forget carbon footprint, Greta was travelling half way round the globe, in a carbon shoe, the wrong way!

    The teenager savior of the planet cannot get from A to B because she is so busy hanging out with Hollywood stars. Then again, why doesn't she just ask Leo if she can borrow his private jet to fly to the climate-change summit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Technics 1210 View Post
    Actually this situation perfectly illustrates the utter stupidity and hypocrisy of travelling halfway around the world just to attend a conference on the issue of cutting carbon emissions, in a yacht built from carbon fibre. I mean forget carbon footprint, Greta was travelling half way round the globe, in a carbon shoe, the wrong way!

    The teenager savior of the planet cannot get from A to B because she is so busy hanging out with Hollywood stars. Then again, why doesn't she just ask Leo if she can borrow his private jet to fly to the climate-change summit?
    Is this an excerpt from the research papers you were alluding to for us to study?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Technics 1210 View Post
    Actually this situation perfectly illustrates the utter stupidity and hypocrisy of travelling halfway around the world just to attend a conference on the issue of cutting carbon emissions, in a yacht built from carbon fibre. I mean forget carbon footprint, Greta was travelling half way round the globe, in a carbon shoe, the wrong way!

    The teenager savior of the planet cannot get from A to B because she is so busy hanging out with Hollywood stars. Then again, why doesn't she just ask Leo if she can borrow his private jet to fly to the climate-change summit?
    Why do you keep dodging the question? Where are the scientific research papers that support your claims?

    Greta is irrelevant in all this. The original message she had was correct. Who wrote her speeches and how she decides to spend her time is another matter. What is relevant to all this is the science of climate change. So please, send us those scientific journal articles that support your claims, that's all we're asking.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hussain.r97 View Post
    Why do you keep dodging the question? Where are the scientific research papers that support your claims?

    Greta is irrelevant in all this. The original message she had was correct. Who wrote her speeches and how she decides to spend her time is another matter. What is relevant to all this is the science of climate change. So please, send us those scientific journal articles that support your claims, that's all we're asking.
    The paper is called Dunning-Kruger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miandadrules View Post
    The paper is called Dunning-Kruger.


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    Poor girl is being used by influencial green energy investors to further their cause and force Western Governments to open their wallets and spend heavy in the green sector similar to the wind turbine boom and massive electrial vehicles rebates of 2010 and 2011.

    22 of the top 30 most polluted cities are India and 26 out 50 most polluted cities are in China yet western workers are forced to pay the price for this travesty.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...ntl/index.html

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    All these scientists must be part of the hoax too.


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    2019 Ozone Hole is the Smallest on Record Since Its Discovery

    The annual ozone hole reached its peak extent of 6.3 million square miles (16. 4 million square kilometers) on Sept. 8, and then shrank to less than 3.9 million square miles (10 million square kilometers) for the remainder of September and October, according to NASA and NOAA satellite measurements. During years with normal weather conditions, the ozone hole typically grows to a maximum area of about 8 million square miles in late September or early October.

    “It’s great news for ozone in the Southern Hemisphere,” said Paul Newman, chief scientist for Earth Sciences at NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland. “But it’s important to recognize that what we’re seeing this year is due to warmer stratospheric temperatures. It’s not a sign that atmospheric ozone is suddenly on a fast track to recovery.”

    Ozone is a highly reactive molecule comprised of three oxygen atoms that occurs naturally in small amounts. Roughly seven to 25 miles above Earth’s surface, in a layer of the atmosphere called the stratosphere, the ozone layer is a sunscreen, shielding the planet from potentially harmful ultraviolet radiation that can cause skin cancer and cataracts, suppress immune systems and also damage plants.

    The Antarctic ozone hole forms during the Southern Hemisphere’s late winter as the returning Sun’s rays start ozone-depleting reactions. These reactions involve chemically active forms of chlorine and bromine derived from man-made compounds. The chemistry that leads to their formation involves chemical reactions that occur on the surfaces of cloud particles that form in cold stratospheric layers, leading ultimately to runaway reactions that destroy ozone molecules. In warmer temperatures fewer polar stratospheric clouds form and they don’t persist as long, limiting the ozone-depletion process.

    NASA and NOAA monitor the ozone hole via complementary instrumental methods.

    Satellites, including NASA’s Aura satellite, the NASA-NOAA Suomi National Polar-orbiting Partnership satellite and NOAA’s Joint Polar Satellite System NOAA-20 satellite, measure ozone from space. The Aura satellite’s Microwave Limb Sounder also estimates levels of ozone-destroying chlorine in the stratosphere.

    At the South Pole, NOAA staff launch weather balloons carrying ozone-measuring “sondes” which directly sample ozone levels vertically through the atmosphere. Most years, at least some levels of the stratosphere, the region of the upper atmosphere where the largest amounts of ozone are normally found, are found to be completely devoid of ozone.

    “This year, ozonesonde measurements at the South Pole did not show any portions of the atmosphere where ozone was completely depleted,” said atmospheric scientist Bryan Johnson at NOAA’s Earth System Research Laboratory in Boulder, Colorado.

    Uncommon but not unprecedented

    This is the third time in the last 40 years that weather systems have caused warm temperatures that limit ozone depletion, said Susan Strahan, an atmospheric scientist with Universities Space Research Association, who works at NASA Goddard. Similar weather patterns in the Antarctic stratosphere in September 1988 and 2002 also produced atypically small ozone holes, she said.

    “It’s a rare event that we’re still trying to understand,” said Strahan. “If the warming hadn’t happened, we’d likely be looking at a much more typical ozone hole.”

    There is no identified connection between the occurrence of these unique patterns and changes in climate.

    The weather systems that disrupted the 2019 ozone hole are typically modest in September, but this year they were unusually strong, dramatically warming the Antarctic’s stratosphere during the pivotal time for ozone destruction. At an altitude of about 12 miles (20 kilometers), temperatures during September were 29 degrees F (16˚C) warmer than average, the warmest in the 40-year historical record for September by a wide margin. In addition, these weather systems also weakened the Antarctic polar vortex, knocking it off its normal center over the South Pole and reducing the strong September jet stream around Antarctica from a mean speed of 161 miles per hour to a speed of 67 miles per hour. This slowing vortex rotation allowed air to sink in the lower stratosphere where ozone depletion occurs, where it had two impacts.

    First, the sinking warmed the Antarctic lower stratosphere, minimizing the formation and persistence of the polar stratospheric clouds that are a main ingredient in the ozone-destroying process. Second, the strong weather systems brought ozone-rich air from higher latitudes elsewhere in the Southern Hemisphere to the area above the Antarctic ozone hole. These two effects led to much higher than normal ozone levels over Antarctica compared to ozone hole conditions usually present since the mid 1980s.

    As of October 16 2019, the ozone hole above Antarctica remained small but stable and is expected to gradually dissipate in the coming weeks.
    https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard...-its-discovery

    The above is from NASA. 16th October 2019. A mere 2 weeks ago.

    Alas! Greta is en-route to a selfie near you, in a carbon shoe.

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    People using Greta to dismiss climate change is like the following:

    1) India uses pellet guns in Kashmir , with many including children blinded

    2) Maliha Lodhi (?) uses a picture not from Kashmir to show India's use of such bullets

    3) People claim that no one was blinded because the picture was fake


    Just because a person exaggerates or is hypocritical over an issue, that does not invalidate the actual issue itself

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    Quote Originally Posted by LongHorn View Post
    People using Greta to dismiss climate change is like the following:

    1) India uses pellet guns in Kashmir , with many including children blinded

    2) Maliha Lodhi (?) uses a picture not from Kashmir to show India's use of such bullets

    3) People claim that no one was blinded because the picture was fake


    Just because a person exaggerates or is hypocritical over an issue, that does not invalidate the actual issue itself
    Excellent analogies!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Technics 1210 View Post
    2019 Ozone Hole is the Smallest on Record Since Its Discovery



    https://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard...-its-discovery

    The above is from NASA. 16th October 2019. A mere 2 weeks ago.

    Alas! Greta is en-route to a selfie near you, in a carbon shoe.

    Did you even read the article, and do you even understand anything about the ozone layer? It's depletion or restoration has very little to do with climate change. The reason it's restoring is because humans have largely stopped using cluorofluorocarbons (CFCs) in aerosols and refrigeration. CFCs react with ozone in the atmosphere in the presence of UV radiation from the sun. Since there are less CFCs, less of these reactions take place, hence ozone is now restoring. Ozone has very little to do with warming.

    Oh, and you've dodged the question again. Where are the scientific journal articles that support your theories?


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    I read somewhere she has become a PR prop for celebs and politicians and I have to agree. And she is milking the attention. Good for her

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    Quote Originally Posted by Technics 1210 View Post
    Actually this situation perfectly illustrates the utter stupidity and hypocrisy of travelling halfway around the world just to attend a conference on the issue of cutting carbon emissions, in a yacht built from carbon fibre. I mean forget carbon footprint, Greta was travelling half way round the globe, in a carbon shoe, the wrong way!

    The teenager savior of the planet cannot get from A to B because she is so busy hanging out with Hollywood stars. Then again, why doesn't she just ask Leo if she can borrow his private jet to fly to the climate-change summit?
    Will she be burning the Boat? Perhaps educate yourself before commenting, as such comments are just embarrassing and show that you have absolutely no understanding of any science.

    Do you even know what combustion is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danyaalr01 View Post
    Will she be burning the Boat? Perhaps educate yourself before commenting, as such comments are just embarrassing and show that you have absolutely no understanding of any science.

    Do you even know what combustion is?
    Just so you know two sailors were flown over to sail her boat back, they used a total of 4 flights to prevent her from flying over.

    It was a media stunt by her handlers to sail her over and have four flights to move sailors on the boat to make it look like they were reducing the carbon footprint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    Just so you know two sailors were flown over to sail her boat back, they used a total of 4 flights to prevent her from flying over.

    It was a media stunt by her handlers to sail her over and have four flights to move sailors on the boat to make it look like they were reducing the carbon footprint.
    But that guy's saying the boat itself increases carbon emmisions as it is made of carbon. That is the knowledge of a 2 year old.


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