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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoaib88 View Post
    Not pitches but Saffas would definitely put some fight or even won a match if they managed to win a toss or two
    Indian fast bowlers have taken more wickets than the spinners in this test match so far.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoaib88 View Post
    we must not forget this is the same saffas team that just got whitewashed by sri lankans at home
    So that makes India's achievement as worthless too, ok get it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bluevision View Post
    The Proteas will be scarred for a long long time after this nightmarish tour.
    Considering current state of their cricket, its gonna get only downhill from here.

    I ponder how the English or the Aussie's full strength side would fare in India at this moment.
    english need a solid phainta again. They got one last time. This time it should be an even better phainta with bumrah back.

    australia lost last time and I don't see any difference again. None barring smith can play spin decently. Mind you smith has never faced bumrah either or current peak shami.

    I am more interested to see if india can win away in England. in a year. I know they can if they win the toss but can they negate the toss factor if kohli losses the toss?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    Indian fast bowlers have taken more wickets than the spinners in this test match so far.
    In fact Indian pacers have absolutely terrorized SA bats who are born and brought up facing fast bowling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoaib88 View Post
    we must not forget this is the same saffas team that just got whitewashed by sri lankans at home
    And this is the saffas team that whitewashed Pakistan..and also that was the same Sri Lankan team that whitewashed Pakistan..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoaib88 View Post
    we must not forget this is the same saffas team that just got whitewashed by sri lankans at home
    They whitewashed Pakistan 3 zip right before that though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozymandiasza View Post
    Pathetic

    Not sure what they expected after the humiliating SL test series loss, at home no less. By the looks of things it's going to be quite some time before they look like an actual team again. I'll keep watching and supporting though. No use hiding.
    Hmmm...sad watching for the saffers...as sanjay M said on air...this is much like watching india in the 90's - they bat once, we bat twice and get a towelling. But what is heartening is the pitches are of true bounce, the one in poona was an absolute beaut.....
    Any ways, for u , you still have the springbok's semis to savour, and i feel this is their best chance, i expect the All Blacks - England to be a real bruiser with the winner totally drained out.....golden chance for the Springboks...

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    Dean Elgar will not bat. Theunis de Bruyn will be his concussion replacement. This as per Graeme Smith on the broadcast

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    SA 43/5 * (19.5 ov) (f/o)

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    Fab watching Saha keep, he's come back fitter, stronger and more improved.....fantastic watching umesh bowl with this fire....When umesh first arrived, i thought here's our version of waqar, slingly(not quite waqar but still slingy) good runup, pacy and i thought he needed to learn to reverse it at speed....he regressed, his lengths were awful, ishant-another i had given up on , bowling the same dross day in and out...somehow these two guys have turned it around, become fitter, bowl impressive fuller lengths,mix up the short ones ...over all its fab to watch...go indiaaaa...

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    Linde run out, 2nd such dismissal in this test for SA.

    Unpardonable really....

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    Some tremendous work by Nadeem, direct hit...

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    Ashwin is yet to take a single wicket in this test, only 4 remaining now.

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    Concussion sub Bruyn, slogging a few....

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    Piedt gone, Ashwin still wicketless...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MP2011 View Post
    Piedt gone, Ashwin still wicketless...
    Does it matter who gets the wickets? scoring a minimum of one more than the opposition or knocking 20 over is i guess more important that who does it...cheers m8

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    Quote Originally Posted by MP2011 View Post
    Piedt gone, Ashwin still wicketless...
    that's okay. He made the mistake of bowling round the wicket straight away y'day.

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    16 wickets in a single day

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    IND 497/9 decl
    RSA 162, 132/8 (46.0) CRR: 2.87


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    Debruyn averages 65 in subcontinent (both in India though). He will be the third person do have that. Gary Kirsten averages 53 in subcontinent, Kallis averages 55 in subcontinent. Everyone else is well below 50.

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    Hope india pick some new bowlers against BD....where's the u-19 stars - mavi and nagerkoti gone? this is the best time to get them in, also guys like shubhmaan...

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    HAMZA PROVIDES SOME LIGHT AT END OF PROTEAS BATTING TUNNEL

    Monday, 21 October 2019

    THE Standard Bank Proteas had another disappointing day with the bat as they lost 16 wickets for 285 runs to subside towards what seems certain to be a second successive innings defeat on the third day of the final Freedom Series Test match against India at Ranchi on Monday.

    Having been forced to follow on for the second successive match they finished the day trailing by 203 runs with only two wickets in hand, one of those being that of Theunis de Bruyn, who has already made top score of the innings (30 off 42 balls, 4 fours and a six) after coming into the game as a concussion substitute.

    He took the place of Dean Elgar who was ruled out of the game after taking a severe blow to the side of the head in attempting to duck under a short delivery from Umesh Yadav.

    It was Yadav and Mohammed Shami who did the most to put the Proteas top order on the back foot in both innings, taking a combined total of 10 wickets in the match to date at minimal cost.

    They certainly kept the pressure on the batsmen all the time and the deliveries that accounted for Faf du Plessis in both innings and both Zubayr Hamza and Quinton de Kock in the second were right out of the top drawer.

    Hamza did provide some early encouragement when the Proteas resumed their first innings on 9/2 with the No. 3 batsman yet to get off the mark. He showed excellent judgment in picking length, and also produced decisive footwork as he dominated all the bowling to score 62 off 79 balls (10 fours and a six) and share a partnership of 91 for the fifth wicket with Temba Bavuma that enabled the Proteas to score 120 runs in the session.

    His dismissal came as a genuine surprise and, unfortunately, both he and Bavuma were dismissed in the space of three deliveries with the only other first innings resistance then coming from George Linde (37 off 81 balls, 3 fours).

    There was more resistance from Linde in the second innings before he ran himself out, leaving De Bruyn to fight a lone hand towards the close.


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    This is one terrible SA team. Hopefully India tours SA soon and whitewash them on their home turf.

    Happy for Nadeem. But has India given up on Kuldeep as a Test bowler?

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    Quote Originally Posted by troodon View Post
    This is one terrible SA team. Hopefully India tours SA soon and whitewash them on their home turf.

    Happy for Nadeem. But has India given up on Kuldeep as a Test bowler?
    Kuldeep has some issues with his left shoulder but Nadeem's chance was long due too.

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    Third Test, Ranchi (day three of five):
    India 497-9 dec (Rohit 212, Rahane 112)
    South Africa 162 (Hamza 62, Yadav 3-40) & 132-8 (Shami 3-10)
    South Africa trail by 203 runs with two wickets remaining
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    South Africa batsman Dean Elgar has withdrawn from the third Test against India after being hit on the helmet by a short-pitched delivery.

    The opener, 32, was struck by a ball from India pace bowler Umesh Yadav during the tourists' second innings.

    A physio was called for and the umpires announced an early tea in Ranchi.

    South Africa were 26-4 at the time and are set to suffer an innings defeat and a series whitewash as they slipped to 132-8 by stumps, still 203 runs adrift.

    Elgar, who played for Surrey in 2018 and 2019, retired hurt on 16 and Theunis de Bruyn was brought in as a concussion replacement.

    The International Cricket Council (ICC) approved the use of concussion substitutes for all internationals from August, with De Bruyn becoming the third sub to be used.

    Australia's Marnus Labuschagne came in for Steve Smith in the second Ashes Test while Jermaine Blackwood replaced Darren Bravo during West Indies' Jamaica Test against India last month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troodon View Post
    This is one terrible SA team. Hopefully India tours SA soon and whitewash them on their home turf.

    Happy for Nadeem. But has India given up on Kuldeep as a Test bowler?
    Kuldeep was recovering from injury and had a doubt over his fitness, which is why Nadeem was on standby. On match day, Kuldeep was declared unfit and Nadeem got his maiden test cap.

    I wouldn’t say India has given up on young Kuldeep. He will come back eventually fitter and better.

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    OPINION | Proteas: It's never been this bad, has it?
    Lloyd Burnard - Sport24
    Cape Town - We can be patient and we can acknowledge a period of renewal, but what we can't do is ignore the fact that the Proteas are in their worst shape since readmission back in 1991.

    That is not overly dramatic. It is not unfair. It is not a sweeping statement made in the absence of context.

    South Africa are being embarrassed in the third Test against India in Ranchi.

    They will lose this match by an innings and plenty on Tuesday and they will be whitewashed 3-0 in the series.

    It will be South Africa's fifth Test defeat in a row; a streak of losses that they have matched only once in their post-isolation history when they went down in back-to-back home and away series defeats against that mighty Australian team of 2005/06.

    It started in February when the Proteas were stunned by Sri Lanka on home soil, losing 2-0 in a Test series that they were expected to win at a canter.

    The disastrous Cricket World Cup followed, where the Proteas finished 7th and had barely arrived at the tournament before they were (realistically) knocked out of it.

    Along the way, coach Ottis Gibson lost his job after the World Cup and Cricket South Africa (CSA) CEO Thabang Moroe quickly emerged as a leader who would not shy away from making key cricketing decisions.

    Under the new CSA structure, Moroe can now make calls without board approval, and it has not started off well for him.

    Enoch Nkwe is the interim team director, Corrie van Zyl is the acting director of cricket, there is a temporary backroom coaching staff and, most importantly, the Proteas currently have no idea what their best XI is in any format.

    Will Nkwe still be in charge when England arrive this summer? Will Van Zyl? Will Faf du Plessis still be Test captain? Is he still the man who will lead the side into the T20 World Cup in Australia next year?

    At a time when this side is in desperate need of clarity, confusion reigns.

    It is not to say that there is no way out of the hole - there always is - but it is difficult to see the light when it feels like there is no clear plan.

    The returns in India would be more bearable if we were seeing young, promising players being backed at this level for the first time as part of a bigger picture.

    As much as the leadership group will try and suggest otherwise, though, the Proteas in India are not overly green.

    A bowling attack including Kagiso Rabada, Vernon Philander and Keshav Maharaj boasts plenty of experience in the format while the top order of Aiden Markram, Dean Elgar, Du Plessis and Temba Bavuma also has no such excuses.

    The losses of Dale Steyn and Hashim Amla do not change that.

    There can also be no gripes when it comes to the nature of the wickets.

    On Monday, it was the Indian quick bowlers and not the spinners who did the damage, and that is indicative of just how much this top order has struggled.

    As good as Bavuma has been in some difficult scenarios for South Africa over the years, he doesn't look a player capable of scoring big, game-changing hundreds at the moment.

    Theunis de Bruyn has also battled, while there has not been enough consistency from senior players Elgar, Du Plessis and Quinton de Kock.

    Markram, for all of his promise, continues to under-deliver.

    Things get even more worrying when you start thinking about who the next players in line are.

    Whether it be a Kyle Verreynne, Rassie van der Dussen, Khaya Zondo or one of the Malans from Western Province, the Proteas will be banking on inexperience for some time to come on the Test stage.

    And that would be perfectly fine if the plan was to bring new players into a system with a clear philosophy and mapped out, long-term vision for the future in place.

    But, until South Africa settle on a full-time coaching staff, no such plans can exist.

    It has reached crisis point, and if Moroe thought he had the luxury of playing a 'wait and see' game when it comes to Nkwe and Van Zyl, he is now surely all out of time.

    The Proteas need a concrete plan.

    If Van Zyl and Nkwe are the men best equipped to provide that, then they need to be given the gigs full-time and allowed to start implementing their ideas immediately.

    Because the longer the Proteas stumble around in limbo, uncertain of exactly where they are going, the harder it will be to get back to something resembling a cricketing country that was once respected as one of the best in the world.

    England are coming, and unless the Proteas are given a rocket of an awakening from somewhere, it could be a memorable tour for all of the wrong reasons if you're South African.

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    Any reason Rassie van der Dussen is not part of test squad?

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    Virat Kohli reached another distinction as India captain when he enforced a follow-on for a record eighth time during the third Test against South Africa in Ranchi on Monday. India bowled out South Africa for a paltry 162 runs to take a lead of 335 runs on the third day of the Test at JSCA International Stadium Complex. India captain Virat Kohli enforced the follow-on for the eighth time in his career as Test captain, surpassing Mohammad Azharuddin's mark of seven.

    MS Dhoni enforced a follow-on five times in his career, while Sourav Ganguly did it four times in his Test captaincy.

    India have already clinched the three-match Test series 2-0 with the help of victories in Vizag and Pune. The number one-ranked Test team is now aiming for a whitewash against the visiting South Africans in Ranchi.

    This is India's record 11th Test series triumph at home.

    Playing his 51st Test match as captain, Virat Kohli couldn't impress much with the willow in the third Test and lost his wicket for 12 runs.

    However, new Test opener Rohit Sharma continued the brilliant run at the top of the order and smashed his maiden Test double hundred.

    Vice-captain Ajinkya Rahane scored a causative century as India declared their first innings on 497/9.

    Following the impressive batting display, Indian bowlers took the charge and resumed dominating South Africa in Ranchi.

    Umesh Yadav led the bowling attack with three wickets, while Mohammed Shami, Shahbaz Nadeem and Ravindra Jadeja chipped in with two wickets each as India wrapped up South Africa for 162.

    In South Africa's second innings, Shami emerged as the wrecker-in-chief with three wickets, all inside the first seven overs.

    Umesh struck twice, while spinners Jadeja and Ravichandran Ashwin claimed a wicket each to reduce South Africa to 132/8, trailing India by 203 runs, at stumps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnaveen1980 View Post
    Any reason Rassie van der Dussen is not part of test squad?
    dint have a good domestic season. He is more of an odi/t20 player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianG00se View Post
    Kuldeep was recovering from injury and had a doubt over his fitness, which is why Nadeem was on standby. On match day, Kuldeep was declared unfit and Nadeem got his maiden test cap.

    I wouldn’t say India has given up on young Kuldeep. He will come back eventually fitter and better.
    yea he really needs to get fitter.

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    Indian pacers are a treat to watch these days...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyron_woodley View Post
    yea he really needs to get fitter.
    He needs to pay a lot more attention to his fitness and fielding skills. In today’s era bowler are required to be a good at fielding as well which he has lot to work on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AamchiMumbaikar View Post
    Indian pacers are a treat to watch these days...
    So true. I still remember when world used to mock us ‘Trundler’s brigade’ and what not.

    How time has changed and for once I’m really loving it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadianG00se View Post
    So true. I still remember when world used to mock us ‘Trundler’s brigade’ and what not.

    How time has changed and for once I’m really loving it.
    trundler? what's that. last time india had trundler was in 2011-12.

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    Even on placid pitches our pacers are doing so well. If our batting holds up abroad we should win all our next Sena tours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyron_woodley View Post
    trundler? what's that. last time india had trundler was in 2011-12.
    Yea but guys like Varun aaron and old Yadav and Ishant were spray guns and had zero discipline

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    Quote Originally Posted by AamchiMumbaikar View Post
    Even on placid pitches our pacers are doing so well. If our batting holds up abroad we should win all our next Sena tours.
    Indian batting is definitely not good enough away from home, that's where 2000s team was excellent. Dravid and Tendulkar are both two of the greatest away batsmen of all time. Tendulkar perfomed against GOAT Australia, and Dravid in England (who have been India's biggest hurdle this century).

    It's good to take 20 wickets, but that's pointless if opposition takes 20 faster. SENA bowling is still extremely strong at home. England has Archer and Anderson, Aus has Cummins and Hazlewood, NZ has Wagner and Boult, SA has Philander and Rabada. Kohli is the only one who has done well against all these bowlers (except Anderson).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Gomes View Post
    Indian batting is definitely not good enough away from home, that's where 2000s team was excellent. Dravid and Tendulkar are both two of the greatest away batsmen of all time. Tendulkar perfomed against GOAT Australia, and Dravid in England (who have been India's biggest hurdle this century).

    It's good to take 20 wickets, but that's pointless if opposition takes 20 faster. SENA bowling is still extremely strong at home. England has Archer and Anderson, Aus has Cummins and Hazlewood, NZ has Wagner and Boult, SA has Philander and Rabada. Kohli is the only one who has done well against all these bowlers (except Anderson).
    need to learn how to negate toss in England and south africa. toss made a difference last time. bowling is world class. batting let india down I agree but also the main reason was toss.
    if this team can negate toss and win in England and south africa, I would rate them as a top 2 GOAT side


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    Yeah we need someone to support Kohli in batting plus win at least 2 tosses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyron_woodley View Post
    need to learn how to negate toss in England and south africa. toss made a difference last time. bowling is world class. batting let india down I agree but also the main reason was toss.
    if this team can negate toss and win in England and south africa, I would rate them as a top 2 GOAT side
    Forget the toss, if only Virat Kohli had a batting partner in England & SA like Pujara in Australia, those series would have had different results. Barring Kohli, Indian batsmen including Sharma & Pujara are very susceptible in swinging conditions & till they overcome that they will not win in these countries.

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    All over, Nadeem takes 2 in 2!

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    Embarrassing defeat for SA.

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    Nadeem had to wait for 15 years for his test debut...This is amazing.....If we could play Pragyan Ojha etc why not Nadeem?

    Its not that Nadeem wasn't performing all these years!

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    5/5 wins for us in World Test Championship!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dildilpak View Post
    Forget the toss, if only Virat Kohli had a batting partner in England & SA like Pujara in Australia, those series would have had different results. Barring Kohli, Indian batsmen including Sharma & Pujara are very susceptible in swinging conditions & till they overcome that they will not win in these countries.
    If kohli hadn't put his bff ahead of pujara in the 1st test in England we might have won that. Same with Rahane in SA 1st test. Kohli the Captain screwed us out of 2 possible test series wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MP2011 View Post
    5/5 wins for us in World Test Championship!
    India-240 points, everyone else combined-232 points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jagatk View Post
    If kohli hadn't put his bff ahead of pujara in the 1st test in England we might have won that. Same with Rahane in SA 1st test. Kohli the Captain screwed us out of 2 possible test series wins.
    Yes. Really bizarre team selections. Injury to Bhuvi and Bhumra didn't help. Personally Sam Curran won two tests for them. Also this habit of gifting wickets to Moeen Ali time again hurt India.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jagatk View Post
    India-240 points, everyone else combined-232 points.
    Simply amazing stat this.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MP2011 View Post
    Simply amazing stat this.....
    Clean sweep of bd and barring something going crazy bad against other 3, we will be in finals at lords.

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    Scary stuff from India. The NZ series should be exciting. Looking forward to Bumrah vs Williamson.


    2 possibilities exist: Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are terrifying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    Yea but guys like Varun aaron and old Yadav and Ishant were spray guns and had zero discipline
    Why/how did Umesh become so good in Asian conditions?

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    Looking forward to Bumrah vs Williamson.
    For that he first needs to get fit.

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    Consolidating our no.1 ranking with 119 points now. Excellent stuff. No.1 for 3 years now. Undisputed champs

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyron_woodley View Post
    need to learn how to negate toss in England and south africa. toss made a difference last time. bowling is world class. batting let india down I agree but also the main reason was toss.
    if this team can negate toss and win in England and south africa, I would rate them as a top 2 GOAT side
    India can win in South Africa, they just need to survive the overs from Rabada and Philander. Other bowlers are ordinary. England is much harder to beat, their top order is bad but middle order is good and lower order is excellent. There's a reason Australia only drew despite having the best batsman and best bowler, England will not rely on toss as much to win.

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    SA needed to win all the tosses and AB to have an Indian summer to win 2-1.

    No AB and I think they would have been swept 3-0 despite the toss advantage.

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    Best home bullies ever...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MP2011 View Post
    Nadeem had to wait for 15 years for his test debut...This is amazing.....If we could play Pragyan Ojha etc why not Nadeem?

    Its not that Nadeem wasn't performing all these years!
    15 years?? Nadeem’s official age is 30!
    Is he some kind of prodigy talent back then or what to debut at the age of 15?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramsay View Post
    15 years?? Nadeem’s official age is 30!
    Is he some kind of prodigy talent back then or what to debut at the age of 15?
    He himself said that he was 15 when he made his Ranji debut. At least his story is consistent lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sin Nombre View Post
    SA needed to win all the tosses and AB to have an Indian summer to win 2-1.

    No AB and I think they would have been swept 3-0 despite the toss advantage.
    Almost certainly would have whitewashed SA just like SRi Lanka did there


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ramsay View Post
    15 years?? Nadeem’s official age is 30!
    Is he some kind of prodigy talent back then or what to debut at the age of 15?
    Got that from CI.

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    INDIA WRAP UP SERIES TO CLAIM 120 TEST MATCH POINTS

    Tuesday, 22 October 2019

    INDIA needed just two overs to wrap up the final Freedom Series Test match against the Standard Bank Proteas at Ranchi on Tuesday by an innings and 202 runs margin and clinch a 3-0 series triumph and, with it, 120 points in the ICC World Test Championship.

    Shahbaz Nadeem took the remaining two wickets in successive balls, the final one in bizarre fashion when he dismissed Lungi Ngidi caught and bowled as the ball deflected off the non-striker, Anrich Nortje.

    Rohit Sharma was named both Man of the Match and Man of the Series for his aggregate of more than 500 runs that included three centuries, one of them being a double.

    Proteas now return home to prepare for their next series at home to England, starting over the festive season.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    Almost certainly would have whitewashed SA just like SRi Lanka did there
    Not necessarily. SL is the most clutch team from SC. Indians are anything but. First sign of pressure they will unravel quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Gomes View Post
    India can win in South Africa, they just need to survive the overs from Rabada and Philander. Other bowlers are ordinary. England is much harder to beat, their top order is bad but middle order is good and lower order is excellent. There's a reason Australia only drew despite having the best batsman and best bowler, England will not rely on toss as much to win.
    why don't people understand this fact. kohli has never lost a game when he has won the toss. home and away included. If kohli wins tosses in England, india will beat them comfortably. That's not what I want though. I want to see this team win by negating toss factor. If they can prove that they can win after losing the toss in England then I would rate them as 2nd greatest team ever on par with australia of 2000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WengerOut View Post
    Not necessarily. SL is the most clutch team from SC. Indians are anything but. First sign of pressure they will unravel quickly.
    yea right. india would have whitewashed them as bad as they did in india if AB dint play.
    AB dint play, ngidi dint play second test and I believe amla dint play either vs Lanka. duane Olivier trundler played. Same trundler that helped whitewash pakistan.

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    Twelve balls. It’s all India needed to pick up the final two South African wickets and record a 3-0 victory – their first-ever series sweep over South Africa.

    South Africa folded for 133, which meant that they still ended up 202 runs short of India’s first-innings total, after having batted twice. The final margin was also India’s largest win in Tests over South Africa.

    And it was Shahbaz Nadeem, the debutant left-arm spinner, who put the finishing touches on yet another comprehensive Indian win. With the fifth ball of his first over on day four, Nadeem shortened his length to compensate for Theunis de Bruyn, substituting as a concussion replacement for Dean Elgar, who was struck on the helmet on day three by Umesh Yadav, stepping down the track. The batsman was forced to change course late and attempted a cut, but with the ball keeping low and skidding through, all he could manage was an under-edge that was snaffled by Wriddhiman Saha.

    Then, off the final ball, in truly peculiar circumstances, Nadeem had the last man Lungi Ngidi caught and bowled after the ball rebounded off the non-striker Anrich Nortje. With Nadeem having offered up generous flight, Ngidi cleared his front leg and drilled the ball hard, but straight into the shoulder of the non-striker, whereafter the ball lobbed up gently towards Nadeem, who snapped it up to trigger celebrations in the Indian camp.

    The twin strikes meant Nadeem ended his debut Test with four wickets to give yet another reason to cheer for India. Umesh completed his dream return to Test whites with five wickets in the game to follow up from the six he snared in his comeback Test in Pune, while his new-ball partner Mohammed Shami also finished with five scalps to his name.

    Though he picked up just one wicket in this Test, R Ashwin was India’s highest wicket-taker for the series, with 15 scalps in the three Tests. Ravindra Jadeja and Shami picked up 13 wickets each, while Umesh wound up with 11 despite having played one Test less than his team-mates.

    On the batting front, Rohit Sharma was head and shoulders above the rest in his maiden series as a Test match opener, with a gulf of nearly 200 runs between him (529 runs) and next best Mayank Agarwal (340 runs). As many as three of India’s batsmen struck double-centuries, with Agarwal making one in the first Test in Visakhapatnam, Kohli in the second Test in Pune, and Rohit in the third in Ranchi. By contrast, only two South African batsmen – Dean Elgar and Quinton de Kock – who both did so in South Africa’s first innings in Visakhapatnam, struck centuries in the series.

    https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/1462720


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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Gomes View Post
    Indian batting is definitely not good enough away from home, that's where 2000s team was excellent. Dravid and Tendulkar are both two of the greatest away batsmen of all time. Tendulkar perfomed against GOAT Australia, and Dravid in England (who have been India's biggest hurdle this century).

    It's good to take 20 wickets, but that's pointless if opposition takes 20 faster. SENA bowling is still extremely strong at home. England has Archer and Anderson, Aus has Cummins and Hazlewood, NZ has Wagner and Boult, SA has Philander and Rabada. Kohli is the only one who has done well against all these bowlers (except Anderson).
    Pujara did very well in Australia, 3 centuries, 2 Player of the Match awards, the Player of the Series, and an average of 74.4. Kohli in comparison only had an average of 40.3 for the Test series. Pujara was the reason why we won the series.

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    Truly sad to see how far SA have fallen. Another nation with their weakest team in history. Test match batting is at an all-time low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joseph Gomes View Post
    India can win in South Africa, they just need to survive the overs from Rabada and Philander. Other bowlers are ordinary. England is much harder to beat, their top order is bad but middle order is good and lower order is excellent. There's a reason Australia only drew despite having the best batsman and best bowler, England will not rely on toss as much to win.
    The rest of Australia’s batting is rubbish. And England picked the wrong team. Their coach never understood test matches. But they have got their World Cup hoodoo out of the way now and can focus on tests again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WengerOut View Post
    Not necessarily. SL is the most clutch team from SC. Indians are anything but. First sign of pressure they will unravel quickly.
    SL got smashed 2-0 by an Australian side that we dominated . Lanka certainly punched above their weight in SA but I think there's a good chance we can beat SA in SA if we were to play right now if not whitewash them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    The rest of Australia’s batting is rubbish. And England picked the wrong team. Their coach never understood test matches. But they have got their World Cup hoodoo out of the way now and can focus on tests again.
    England just don't have the talent to do any better. Nothing to do with the coach. Bayliss clearly mentioned that county cricket is not good enough to produce the kind of cricketers that can win test matches everywhere . Under Bayliss you didnt lose a single series at home and beat SA and SL away. It's the best you could have hoped for.

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    What a phainty! : facepalm:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Truly sad to see how far SA have fallen. Another nation with their weakest team in history. Test match batting is at an all-time low.
    watch them come back strong at home and away vs new zeland and Aussies. I reckon they will bounce back rather soon. They aren't going anywhere. First class system is elite.

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    I want to feel sorry for south africa but I can't. Ruthless aggression is what I like. Kill them all. indis haven't won in England yet under kohli so we still have to prove ourselves in swing conditions. Hell new zealand will be a tough battle too. I have no doubt that this team is capable of whitewashing new zeland away but it won't be easy. They are a formidable side. I see new zeland reaching semis. Let's hope india decimates new zeland next to get back at them for the 2 day world cup semi final loss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyron_woodley View Post
    watch them come back strong at home and away vs new zeland and Aussies. I reckon they will bounce back rather soon. They aren't going anywhere. First class system is elite.
    It’s not producing elite batters, or even test batters. Where’s the new Pollock, Richards, Barlow, Lamb, Robin Smith, Kallis, Graeme Smith, De Villiers, Pietersen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    England just don't have the talent to do any better. Nothing to do with the coach. Bayliss clearly mentioned that county cricket is not good enough to produce the kind of cricketers that can win test matches everywhere . Under Bayliss you didnt lose a single series at home and beat SA and SL away. It's the best you could have hoped for.
    It’s not a talent problem - CC has thrown up Root, Bairstow, Stokes, Moeen, Buttler, Curran and Archer recently. These guys have serious innate ability.

    It’s the CC schedule. Not enough four day matches, too much LO. It’s producing defensive seamers and spinners who can clout sixes at the death, not wicket-takers, and batsmen only good for thirty overs who can’t cope with turn and bounce.

    But Bayliss is making excuses - he picked a lot of wrong players and put the right ones in the wrong positions, like Root at #3. Illingworth used to say that it wasn’t his fault as there was little ability for him to pick. Then he retired and England beat a very strong SA side at home, then WI, then won in Pakistan and SL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    It’s not producing elite batters, or even test batters. Where’s the new Pollock, Richards, Barlow, Lamb, Robin Smith, Kallis, Graeme Smith, De Villiers, Pietersen?
    all in englsnd lol.

    abbott for tests although bowling is still strong so it doesn't matter in that regard.

    roussow for odi

    curran brothers? maybe sam is from Zimbabwe

    marnus is in australia lol


    hamza
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    these boys are their future.

    I am certain they will be back. Just need to find the right combination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    It’s not a talent problem - CC has thrown up Root, Bairstow, Stokes, Moeen, Buttler, Curran and Archer recently. These guys have serious innate ability.

    It’s the CC schedule. Not enough four day matches, too much LO. It’s producing defensive seamers and spinners who can clout sixes at the death, not wicket-takers, and batsmen only good for thirty overs who can’t cope with turn and bounce.

    But Bayliss is making excuses - he picked a lot of wrong players and put the right ones in the wrong positions, like Root at #3. Illingworth used to say that it wasn’t his fault as there was little ability for him to pick. Then he retired and England beat a very strong SA side at home, then WI, then won in Pakistan and SL.
    Read Bayliss' interview with Cricket Monthly. These are the same issues that have been highlighted by the likes of Vaughan and even boycs earlier. The pitches and, particularly, the dukes ball have resulted in extremely bowler friendly conditions which have helped the likes of Jimmy and Broad dominate opposition lineups but it has also meant that
    English batsman can't stay long and make those big hundreds that are required in places like India and Australia. Bowlers are reliant on movement and batters try to bat aggressively before they get an unplayable ball.

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    I cant remember the last time a series between two well established sides have been this one sided and repetitive even the players must have got bored.

    There has been many 3-0 in the past but atleast in some games the losing sides have been interested but in this nothing.


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