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    What players would make up a World Test XI to play against the current Indian Test XI?

    I think it would be interesting.

    Given India continues to crush everyone at home it would be interesting to send an All Star team to India.

    My pick :-

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    Behenstokes
    Shakib
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    What players would make up a world test XI against the current Indian test XI played India

    The Experts panel during the lunch break of day 2 during the 3rd test in Ranchi between India and South Africa named a rest of the world test XI that they think could take on or beat this current Indian test XI in a series in India.
    Their team was:

    1. Dean Elgar
    2. Tamim Iqbal
    3. Kane Williamson (C)
    4. Steve Smith
    5. Babar Azam
    6. Shakib-al-Hasan
    7. Quinten De Kock (WK)
    8. Ben Stokes
    9. Pat Cummins
    10. Nathan Lyon
    11. Jofra Archer

    What changes would you make, if any?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danyaalr01 View Post
    The Experts panel during the lunch break of day 2 during the 3rd test in Ranchi between India and South Africa named a rest of the world test XI that they think could take on or beat this current Indian test XI in a series in India.
    Their team was:

    1. Dean Elgar
    2. Tamim Iqbal
    3. Kane Williamson (C)
    4. Steve Smith
    5. Babar Azam
    6. Shakib-al-Hasan
    7. Quinten De Kock (WK)
    8. Ben Stokes
    9. Pat Cummins
    10. Nathan Lyon
    11. Jofra Archer

    What changes would you make, if any?
    I would swap Tamim out for Karunaratne. Stokes out for Yasir Shah, I'm willing to drop Stokes as his ability against spin is not too good, also the batting is deep enough already.
    Swap out De Kock for BJ Watling. Watling playes spin better and is better at toughing it out. De Kock might have made a century in the first test, bit the ball wasn't doing much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freelance_cricketer View Post
    I think it would be interesting.

    Given India continues to crush everyone at home it would be interesting to send an All Star team to India.

    My pick :-

    Opener 1
    Bobby
    Smith
    Williamson
    Taylor
    Behenstokes
    Shakib
    Starc
    Cummins
    Shah
    Lyon
    Bhai, Taylor is not good in Asia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freelance_cricketer View Post
    I think it would be interesting.

    Given India continues to crush everyone at home it would be interesting to send an All Star team to India.

    My pick :-

    Opener 1
    Bobby
    Smith
    Williamson
    Taylor
    Behenstokes
    Shakib
    Starc
    Cummins
    Shah
    Lyon
    I don't see them beating this indian team. Bumrah will be back rofl. Goodluck dealing with that beast.

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    Karunaratne
    Latham
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    Root
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    Stokes
    Watling
    Cummins
    Archer
    Lyon
    Yasir Shah

    I think a team capable of winning in India will need two spinners and batsmen that are great at sweeping and scrapping against spin bowling. Babar Azam would be a walking wicket against Ashwin and Jadeja so there's no room for him in tests.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danyaalr01 View Post
    The Experts panel during the lunch break of day 2 during the 3rd test in Ranchi between India and South Africa named a rest of the world test XI that they think could take on or beat this current Indian test XI in a series in India.
    Their team was:

    1. Dean Elgar
    2. Tamim Iqbal
    3. Kane Williamson (C)
    4. Steve Smith
    5. Babar Azam
    6. Shakib-al-Hasan
    7. Quinten De Kock (WK)
    8. Ben Stokes
    9. Pat Cummins
    10. Nathan Lyon
    11. Jofra Archer

    What changes would you make, if any?
    Latham/Elgar
    Karunaratne
    Williamson
    Smith
    Root
    Shakib
    de kock(wkt)/Watling
    Stokes
    Cummins
    Yasir
    Archer

    This looks good IMO. Archer is yet to play in Asia but that will be interesting.

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    Karunaratne
    Latham (wk)
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    Root
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    Stokes
    Shakib
    Rashid Khan
    Cummins
    Roach
    Lyon


    People talking about Archer, how many tests has he played in Asia ? He's still unproven in these conditions.
    Last edited by Mesozoic; 20th October 2019 at 16:43.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesozoic View Post
    Karunaratne
    Latham (wk)
    Williamson (c)
    Root
    Smith
    Stokes
    Shakib
    Rashid Khan
    Cummins
    Roach
    Lyon


    People talking about Archer, how many tests has he played in Asia ? He's still unproven in these conditions.
    Roach has a very poor record in Asia. Also Rashid Khan hasn't performed against any good batting line ups in tests. He's only played against India in the top 5 and wasn't good.

    The reason Archer is there is because he has the ability to bowl long quick spells, which is useful in Asia. His bowling style is usually useful in Asia.

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    1. Latham
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    3. Williamson
    4. Smith
    5. Root/Mathews
    6. Shakib
    7. Bairstow (Wk)
    8. Archer
    9. Cummins
    10. Lyon
    11. Yasir Shah

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    Karunaratne
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    Shakib
    Q de kock(wk)
    Cummins
    Lyon
    Yasir
    Mohd abbas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danyaalr01 View Post
    The Experts panel during the lunch break of day 2 during the 3rd test in Ranchi between India and South Africa named a rest of the world test XI that they think could take on or beat this current Indian test XI in a series in India.
    Their team was:

    1. Dean Elgar
    2. Tamim Iqbal
    3. Kane Williamson (C)
    4. Steve Smith
    5. Babar Azam
    6. Shakib-al-Hasan
    7. Quinten De Kock (WK)
    8. Ben Stokes
    9. Pat Cummins
    10. Nathan Lyon
    11. Jofra Archer

    What changes would you make, if any?
    I would remove one of the bowlers from this list and put Shaheen Afridi in.

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    Eh, I don't think any XI would beat India in India unless pitch is rank turner. Current India is statistically the strongest home of all time, to India no.2 and no.10 team make no difference.

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    I would have Bairstow. He loves Indian conditions. Also Dave warner loves Indian conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jnaveen1980 View Post
    I would have Bairstow. He loves Indian conditions. Also Dave warner loves Indian conditions.
    Warner cannot play Test cricket in India.

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    1. Latham
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    4. Smith
    5. Root
    6. Stokes
    7. Shakib
    8. Watling (Wk)
    9. Cummins
    10. Archer
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    Quote Originally Posted by Danyaalr01 View Post
    The Experts panel during the lunch break of day 2 during the 3rd test in Ranchi between India and South Africa named a rest of the world test XI that they think could take on or beat this current Indian test XI in a series in India.
    Their team was:

    1. Dean Elgar
    2. Tamim Iqbal
    3. Kane Williamson (C)
    4. Steve Smith
    5. Babar Azam
    6. Shakib-al-Hasan
    7. Quinten De Kock (WK)
    8. Ben Stokes
    9. Pat Cummins
    10. Nathan Lyon
    11. Jofra Archer

    What changes would you make, if any?
    If this is going to be in India I would drop Stokes and get Hazelwood.

    Drop Babar and get in Rooooooot who will score zillions again with decent batters coming in ahead of him. He averages 70 at #5.

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    no team is beating india in india, and lyon is a good spinner, but he wont through the India line up.

    batting wise globally there are no outstanding openers, and once you give india an opening there spinners jst put crazy pressure on the middle order. for some reason i think hafeez would enjoy opening in india. not sure if hes retired from tests, if thats the case than id put in azhar ali.

    smithy and kw are pbly the only one who'd stand up on an india tour. babar is unproven in test matches. azhar ali as an opener may not be the worse shout given some similarity to conditions in pak maybe but tamim takes it on form.

    cant think of any active bowlers who india would worry about. anderson would defo be in there simply cos hes a good aggressive and defensive bowler, ditto boult and holder who can bat too. stokes has a good fighting spirit, and given how often the team would be in trouble, wont be bad as a fifth bowler too. shakib as a good batsmen in asia and second spinner in there too.

    for my keeper id go for a player who aint been in the best of form, but in his prime i thought he played spin really well.

    my world xi, four all rounders to keep bowlers fresh, 4 seamers, 3 spinners, all different types of bowlers. bat deep with two aggressive batting options down the order.

    mohamad hafeez a/r
    tamim

    steve smith
    kane williamson *
    shakib ul hasan a/r
    ben stokes a/r
    dinesh chandimal +
    jason holder a/r

    boult
    lyon
    anderson

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    World xi becomes a useless xi in Indian conditions- the only team which stood a chance of even drawing a test in India was the pak test team of 2012..

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    No team consisting of currently available players can hope to draw a full strength India in India, let alone beat India, in a 3 Test match series where no day is washed out.

    Perhaps the Pakistan of 2014-end to summer 2016 might have stood a chance to get a positive result out of the Test series provided Younis Khan was in the mood and firing. Of course there is no way to ever check this but I think that Pakistan Test side would have competed well in India and the batsmen had the skillset to not just roll over to Jadeja and Ashwin. But even then you have to take into account that the India side of the time was not as strong as it is today (nevertheless it was still strong).

    The Aussie side under Smith did very well to compete but that was due to super human efforts of Smith and good support by spinners, rather than the overall strength of that side.
    Last edited by Slog; 21st October 2019 at 06:38.


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    Why is kane so overrated? he has been walking wicket in most asian conditions. Don't remember him scoring much even in odis in india leave tests. Don't talk about his debut back decade ago.

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    The only way i can see team winning is smith scoring like bradman and put 500+ each time. Cummins and lyon then will finish the job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AAli98 View Post
    World xi becomes a useless xi in Indian conditions- the only team which stood a chance of even drawing a test in India was the pak test team of 2012..
    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    No team consisting of currently available players can hope to draw a full strength India in India, let alone beat India, in a 3 Test match series where no day is washed out.

    Perhaps the Pakistan of 2014-end to summer 2016 might have stood a chance to get a positive result out of the Test series provided Younis Khan was in the mood and firing. Of course there is no way to ever check this but I think that Pakistan Test side would have competed well in India and the batsmen had the skillset to not just roll over to Jadeja and Ashwin. But even then you have to take into account that the India side of the time was not as strong as it is today (nevertheless it was still strong).

    The Aussie side under Smith did very well to compete but that was due to super human efforts of Smith and good support by spinners, rather than the overall strength of that side.
    Pakistanis of 2005-2006 could have beaten India.

    Remember they had Dani.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElRaja View Post
    no team is beating india in india, and lyon is a good spinner, but he wont through the India line up.

    batting wise globally there are no outstanding openers, and once you give india an opening there spinners jst put crazy pressure on the middle order. for some reason i think hafeez would enjoy opening in india. not sure if hes retired from tests, if thats the case than id put in azhar ali.

    smithy and kw are pbly the only one who'd stand up on an india tour. babar is unproven in test matches. azhar ali as an opener may not be the worse shout given some similarity to conditions in pak maybe but tamim takes it on form.

    cant think of any active bowlers who india would worry about. anderson would defo be in there simply cos hes a good aggressive and defensive bowler, ditto boult and holder who can bat too. stokes has a good fighting spirit, and given how often the team would be in trouble, wont be bad as a fifth bowler too. shakib as a good batsmen in asia and second spinner in there too.

    for my keeper id go for a player who aint been in the best of form, but in his prime i thought he played spin really well.

    my world xi, four all rounders to keep bowlers fresh, 4 seamers, 3 spinners, all different types of bowlers. bat deep with two aggressive batting options down the order.

    mohamad hafeez a/r
    tamim

    steve smith
    kane williamson *
    shakib ul hasan a/r
    ben stokes a/r
    dinesh chandimal +
    jason holder a/r

    boult
    lyon
    anderson
    Anderson has finished I think.

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    Latham
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    This team should give us a run for our money . Only if they win aciuple of tosses though. Nichols, Karuna and Latham for their patience and grit. Smith and Kane for the big scores and perera and qdk to score the quick explosive runs after the foundation. Hazelwood s accuracy and bounce has troubled Kohli the most. Boult is the best against our top order with that angle and swing and Lyon was the best touring spinner here. Cummins also hits the deck hard and was successful here as well. Took the pitch out of the equation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freelance_cricketer View Post
    Pakistanis of 2005-2006 could have beaten India.

    Remember they had Dani.
    Will be hard fought battle but I don't see them beating india in india either. Neither can ganguly's india.

    I see ganguly's india and pakistan of 05-06 beating this side in England though (swing conditons).

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyron_woodley View Post
    Will be hard fought battle but I don't see them beating india in india either. Neither can ganguly's india.

    I see ganguly's india and pakistan of 05-06 beating this side in England though (swing conditons).
    That team had Dani

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    Latham
    Karuna
    Smith
    Kane(c)
    Nichols
    Perera
    QDK
    Lyon
    Hazelwood
    Boult
    Cummins

    This team should give us a run for our money . Only if they win aciuple of tosses though. Nichols, Karuna and Latham for their patience and grit. Smith and Kane for the big scores and perera and qdk to score the quick explosive runs after the foundation. Hazelwood s accuracy and bounce has troubled Kohli the most. Boult is the best against our top order with that angle and swing and Lyon was the best touring spinner here. Cummins also hits the deck hard and was successful here as well. Took the pitch out of the equation.
    Not Nicholls, he has bad technique against spin. I would go with Root, the pressure of captaincy would be gone as well.

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    Only Smith and Kane are needed from outside Asia and maybe Stokes - rest should be all Asian from rest of the subcontinent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    Latham
    Karuna
    Smith
    Kane(c)
    Nichols
    Perera
    QDK
    Lyon
    Hazelwood
    Boult
    Cummins

    This team should give us a run for our money . Only if they win aciuple of tosses though. Nichols, Karuna and Latham for their patience and grit. Smith and Kane for the big scores and perera and qdk to score the quick explosive runs after the foundation. Hazelwood s accuracy and bounce has troubled Kohli the most. Boult is the best against our top order with that angle and swing and Lyon was the best touring spinner here. Cummins also hits the deck hard and was successful here as well. Took the pitch out of the equation.
    You are missing the point no non-asian player is good enough right now to compete in Asia let alone in India. Only Smith and Kane are needed from outside of Asia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danyaalr01 View Post
    Not Nicholls, he has bad technique against spin. I would go with Root, the pressure of captaincy would be gone as well.
    Fair enough. But Root's batting has declined a lot in last 3 years. Nichols batted brilliantly in the UAE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakhs View Post
    You are missing the point no non-asian player is good enough right now to compete in Asia let alone in India. Only Smith and Kane are needed from outside of Asia.
    Eh. NZ beat Pakistan in UAE and drew with SL in SL. Australia are the only team to have challenged India in India. In fact, Asian teams, apart from India, are not good enough even in Asia. The antipodeans are better than SL,PAK and BD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    Eh. NZ beat Pakistan in UAE and drew with SL in SL. Australia are the only team to have challenged India in India. In fact, Asian teams, apart from India, are not good enough even in Asia. The antipodeans are better than SL,PAK and BD.
    They beat Pakistan in UAE which is not part of the subcontinent. Only Asian players are good enough but I would have smith and kane. You can cry over it as much as you like but we dont have ATG players of 90s and early 2000s who used to be good all over the world.

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    Covers all bases, 6 bowling options (SLA, Legspin, Offspin, Pacy/Aggressive bowlers), batsmen who can grind as well as those who can score at a fair click. Should be a handful for India in India/anywhere else

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakhs View Post
    They beat Pakistan in UAE which is not part of the subcontinent. Only Asian players are good enough but I would have smith and kane. You can cry over it as much as you like but we dont have ATG players of 90s and early 2000s who used to be good all over the world.
    Lol why would I cry about Pakistani players not being good enough. Clearly you are the one upset because OZ/NZ players are better than PAK players even in Asia . First you said Asia and now you are changing it to subcontinent. NZ drew a test series in SL which is in SC. They are also the 2nd best test side in the world. Of course their players are better than those of 7th ranked Pakistan . What is so cobtroversial about that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    Lol why would I cry about Pakistani players not being good enough. Clearly you are the one upset because OZ/NZ players are better than PAK players even in Asia . First you said Asia and now you are changing it to subcontinent. NZ drew a test series in SL which is in SC. They are also the 2nd best test side in the world. Of course their players are better than those of 7th ranked Pakistan . What is so cobtroversial about that?
    Firstly I didnt say Pakistan players? Your insecurity is exposed right there. NZ players are better everywhere except in Asia (Subcontinent) I dont include UAE but for you I had to make that clear.

    The players should be chosen on merit mostly from Asian countries not just from Pakistan. India record against Pakistan in Asian conditions are not great just in-case you have forgotten and yes even when Pakistan have been ranked lower than them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakhs View Post
    Firstly I didnt say Pakistan players? Your insecurity is exposed right there. NZ players are better everywhere except in Asia (Subcontinent) I dont include UAE but for you I had to make that clear.

    The players should be chosen on merit mostly from Asian countries not just from Pakistan. India record against Pakistan in Asian conditions are not great just in-case you have forgotten and yes even when Pakistan have been ranked lower than them.
    Majority of the players from BD/PAK/SL don't make it on merit even in Asian conditions. All 3 teams are losing in Asian conditions quite comfortably. Such players won't stand a chance in India where it's even tougher. Only Karuna is a lock based in his test numbers in recent years. Can you name some others who are better than OZ/NZ equivalents? I don't think so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    Majority of the players from BD/PAK/SL don't make it on merit even in Asian conditions. All 3 teams are losing in Asian conditions quite comfortably. Such players won't stand a chance in India where it's even tougher. Only Karuna is a lock based in his test numbers in recent years. Can you name some others who are better than OZ/NZ equivalents? I don't think so.
    If I were selecting a team to play in India and not allowed to chose Indian players I would chose players mostly from Subcontinent - I would select players like Azhar Ali - Sakib - Kusal - Yasir Shah etc I will only choose Smith and Kane from outside of the subcontinent. I may also choose Stokes as an allrounder but that is not guaranteed but I would consider him.

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    Dimuth Karunaratne
    Azhar Ali
    Kane Williamson*
    Steve Smith
    Haris Sohail
    Mushfiqur Rahim+
    Shakib Al Hasan
    Nathan Lyon
    Yasir Shah
    Trent Boult
    Mohammad Abbas
    Last edited by Rayyman; 22nd October 2019 at 20:53.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KyoOne View Post
    D Warner
    Azhar Ali
    Kane Williamson (c)
    S Smith
    Shakib
    Bairstow +
    B Stokes
    Lyon
    Yasir Shah
    Archer
    Cummins

    Covers all bases, 6 bowling options (SLA, Legspin, Offspin, Pacy/Aggressive bowlers), batsmen who can grind as well as those who can score at a fair click. Should be a handful for India in India/anywhere else
    Nah, India will demolish this team. Kane averages like 35 in India. Warner averages less than 25. Azhar forgot batting since 2017. Smith can at most get the team to 300 with support from Stokes and Shakib. As for bowling, Rohit will beat them up so bad, they would not want to visit India again (like Rabada and Philander)

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    I will have:

    D Warner
    Azhar Ali
    Kane Williamson (c)
    S Smith
    Root
    Shakib
    De Kock (w)
    Yasir Shah
    Archer
    Hazelwood
    Cummins

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Anderson has finished I think.
    he can play one test in a line up with 7 bowlers, as long as he ain't grumpy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElRaja View Post
    he can play one test in a line up with 7 bowlers, as long as he ain't grumpy.
    That’s a big ask


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