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    Will the JUI-F march be able to unseat Imran Khan's government?

    Looks like there will be some fuss around this march in Islamabad but will it be able to unseat Imran Khan's government?


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    Media is trying to make something out of it nothing will happen.


    "Too often we... enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought"-JFK

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    No. I agree with @Couch Cricketer that this has been highlighted or given too much importance in domestic media.

    Time will tell.

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    I don't think this march would do anything. Imran Khan seems to be on solid ground. Let's see.


    Bangladeshi Guy

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    Wonder if moves like one below will have an effect on IK's position?


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    ISLAMABAD: Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam–Fazl's (JUI-F) leader Mufti Kifayatullah was arrested from Islamabad on Sunday for issuing inflammatory statements against the national institutions.

    Deputy Secretary Information JUI-F Aslam Ghouri confirmed the news and said Mufti Kifayatullah was taken into custody from Islamabad’s Sector E-11 last night.

    According to details, the JUI-F leader was arrested under 3-MPO by Mansehra police. He is the third leader to have been detained from the federal capital in the past few days ahead of Azadi March.

    Last Monday, police arrested Maulana Shafiq-ur-Rehman and Maulana Muhammad Irshad from Shams Colony and seized banners for the JUI-F sit-in from their possession.

    Police alleged that the duo were urging people to participate in the Azadi March being organised by JUI-F against the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf government.

    JUI-F chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman would lead caravans from Sindh towards Islamabad after addressing a big rally in Karachi's Sohrab Goth on Sunday.

    https://www.geo.tv/latest/252931-jui...from-islamabad


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    If it was held in d-chowk, then a sliver, but it isnt so ofcourse not.

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    Nothing will happen. Usual PAK topi drama. Country is bankrupt but hey lets organise another dharna and do nothing meaningful.

    Just another day in Pakistan.

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    Diesel is being paid by the Nooras to put pressure on IK. Diesel has done his job as far as the Nooras are concerned- NS is out. Everyone is convinced that NS and AZ have paid billions to get released. If that is the case, then IK has won, if they have paid nothing and get released, IK needs to explain and if he can't, he needs to resign.

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    JUI-F's 'Azadi March' sets out for Islamabad from Karachi's Sohrab Goth area


    The Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam-Fazl (JUI-F) 'Azadi March', led by the faction's chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman, set out on Sunday afternoon from Karachi's Sohrab Goth area towards Islamabad.

    Thousands of people, including seminary students, are participating in the march. In addition, convoys of political parties, including the PPP, the PML-N, the Awami National Party (ANP) and others, joined the march.

    Besides JUI-F leadership, PPP leaders Raza Rabbani, Saeed Ghani, PML-N leaders Mohammad Zubair, Nihal Hashmi, ANP's Shahi Syed and others, are onboard the leading container.

    Addressing the participants of the march, Maulana Fazlur Rehman said, "We had promised to our Kashmiri brethren that we will observe a day to express solidarity with them."

    "The entire nation is on the same page on the issue of Kashmir," he said, adding that there has been a curfew in Kashmir for the past three months. He demanded the international community take notice of human rights violations in occupied Kashmir.

    Talking about the domestic political scenario, the JUI-F chief said that the opposition had denied all demands of the negotiation team sent by the government and will hold their sit-in as per the decisions made by the judiciary.

    "Prime Minister Imran Khan will have to resign. Hundreds of thousands have gathered in Karachi; what will the government do when people from across the country reach Islamabad?" he asked.

    The JUI-F chief questioned the forces who had brought Moin Qureshi [a green card holder] from abroad in 1993 to appoint him as caretaker prime minister for three months. "Our citizenship [on the other hand] is questioned; they declare us Pashtun and Afghani," he said.

    Rehman's remarks come in the backdrop of Pemra's directive, a day earlier, asking all TV channels to refrain from inviting JUI-F's Hafiz Hamdullah, saying that he is a "confirmed alien".

    The JUI-F chief said that the opposition doesn't believe in such "flawed laws". He said what that the opposition does believe in is democracy and the Constitution and wants the sovereignty of the country.

    "I will announce the future course of action in Islamabad," he said.

    "We support positive politics. We have spent our entire life in loyalty to the country's Constitution and we have faced extremism (in return)," he said, adding that the government will have to answer for the tactics it has been employing against the opposition.

    He thanked the political leaders participating in the march.

    The next stopover of the march will be Jamshoro. The march is scheduled to reach Islamabad via Sukkur and various districts of Punjab.

    Meanwhile thousands of supporters of opposition parties left Quetta to participate in the march. JUI-F Balochistan chief Maulana Abdul Wasey led the caravan. The march started from Kuchlak area of Quetta.

    “We will continue our struggle till removal of present rulers,” Maulana Wasey told reporters before leaving for Islamabad.

    “Our sit-in will continue in Islamabad till resignation of the prime minister,” PPP leader Ali Madad Jattak said.

    The participants of the march would pass through Loralai and Dera Ghazi Khan in Punjab and then reach Islamabad to join the anti-government protest.

    https://www.dawn.com/news/1513244/ju...hrab-goth-area

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    waste of time.

    Beside unchi shalwar, lambi dari, no one is showing up to this staged protest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post



    Divine intervention

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    Fazl ur Rehman has collected enough funds in name of Azadi March. Purpose fulfilled. What remains now is accomplishing a safe exit.

    For their own sake and given their political hierarchy, PPP and PMLn shouldn't have joined hands with JUI-f for Azadi March because Fazl ur Rehman will desert them.

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    No. PM IK should complete his term. If Imran Khan could fail in 2014, what makes you think he will succeed in toppling a government via march/dharna? No to dharna/march politics. Although I regret supporting 2014 PTI dharna, but IK had few solid points, unlike him who clearly wants resignation and has already termed this election null void without any evidence, he is not even calling for an inquiry, he is calling for direct re-election, lol.

    But, if in case anything happens to PM IK, I will have no sympathy for him as he has bulldozed his pre-election revolutionary sermons already.

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    People like him using Kashmiri struggle for their personal gain should be locked up indefinitely.

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    Hopefully it will. This circus cannot continue till 2023.

    PTIís dholak dharnas with burger kids are nothing compared to rabid mullahs. This dharna will not be subdued easily.

    It will interesting to note the role of police. During PTIís dharnas, when any protestors would get injured, PTI trolls would accuse the police of abusing their power.

    However, if any protestors get injured in this dharna, the same PTI trolls would accuse the protestors and defend the police.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kk1992 View Post
    People like him using Kashmiri struggle for their personal gain should be locked up indefinitely.
    There is no difference between him and the state of Pakistan, who use Kashmir for political gains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Hopefully it will. This circus cannot continue till 2023.

    PTI’s dholak dharnas with burger kids are nothing compared to rabid mullahs. This dharna will not be subdued easily.

    It will interesting to note the role of police. During PTI’s dharnas, when any protestors would get injured, PTI trolls would accuse the police of abusing their power.

    However, if any protestors get injured in this dharna, the same PTI trolls would accuse the protestors and defend the police.
    Yes what we need is the mafia back in total power. You can suck on it for the next 4 years because this dharna will fail, and peope like you are cowards for not supporting it, you want the Talibs to do your dirty work. So grow a pair and join your leader!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    There is no difference between him and the state of Pakistan, who use Kashmir for political gains.
    State of Pakistan represent the people of Pakistan and the vast majority people of Pakistan support Kashmiri struggle.

    Also, the vast majority people of Pakistan do not support Mulana.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    Yes what we need is the mafia back in total power. You can suck on it for the next 4 years because this dharna will fail, and peope like you are cowards for not supporting it, you want the Talibs to do your dirty work. So grow a pair and join your leader!
    Not everyone is courageous like you. Imran Khan is still indebted to your services during the 2014 Azadi March. This nation will never forget how you gave up your job in the UK and returned to your homeland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kk1992 View Post
    State of Pakistan represent the people of Pakistan and the vast majority people of Pakistan support Kashmiri struggle.

    Also, the vast majority people of Pakistan do not support Mulana.
    The state doesnít support Kashmir because of humanitarian reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Not everyone is courageous like you. Imran Khan is still indebted to your services during the 2014 Azadi March. This nation will never forget how you gave up your job in the UK and returned to your homeland.
    If an overseas Pakistani could contribute more to the country then that Pakistani must continue to live over seas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kk1992 View Post
    If an overseas Pakistani could contribute more to the country then that Pakistani must continue to live over seas.
    Not possible. No country can prosper on overseas armchair supporters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    The state doesn’t support Kashmir because of humanitarian reasons.
    Define humanitarian reasons?

    while we are at it, why not include Hypocrisy at it ? let's deal with every sound bite and talking point in one post because I do not want to divert this thread into 'making you feel special'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Not possible. No country can prosper on overseas armchair supporters.
    That is a completely separate topic.

    If, remember IF, a Pakistani can contribute more to Pakistani prosperity then that person must continue to live over seas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Hopefully it will. This circus cannot continue till 2023.

    PTIís dholak dharnas with burger kids are nothing compared to rabid mullahs. This dharna will not be subdued easily.

    It will interesting to note the role of police. During PTIís dharnas, when any protestors would get injured, PTI trolls would accuse the police of abusing their power.

    However, if any protestors get injured in this dharna, the same PTI trolls would accuse the protestors and defend the police.
    Do you remember when your favourite Shahbaz Sharif tried to start a civil war when he blocked the then CM KPK to cross into Punjab by Punjab Police shelling? Or is this treason forgotten and forgiven by you? Did you support this treason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kk1992 View Post
    Define humanitarian reasons?

    while we are at it, why not include Hypocrisy at it ? let's deal with every sound bite and talking point in one post because I do not want to divert this thread into 'making you feel special'
    Yes hypocrisy is the right word. Our state is guilty of violating the rights of minorities in Pakistan, so they have no credibility when they claim that Kashmir is a humanitarian issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Yes hypocrisy is the right word. Our state is guilty of violating the rights of minorities in Pakistan, so they have no credibility when they claim that Kashmir is a humanitarian issue.
    LOL, by that token, no living person who holds any passport has credibility left to support humanitarian issue.

    You are trying too hard. give it a rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King-Misbah View Post
    Do you remember when your favourite Shahbaz Sharif tried to start a civil war when he blocked the then CM KPK to cross into Punjab by Punjab Police shelling? Or is this treason forgotten and forgiven by you? Did you support this treason?
    Yes because the PTI works has flower bouquets in their hands and the police attacked them with tear-gas without any provocation.

    As I said, if police attacks PTI = policeís fault. If police attacks opposition = oppositionís fault.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Not possible. No country can prosper on overseas armchair supporters.
    $22bn was sent by overseas PK last year, can you explain the effect on the economy if this money wasn't sent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kk1992 View Post
    LOL, by that token, no living person who holds any passport has credibility left to support humanitarian issue.

    You are trying too hard. give it a rest.
    There are very few (if any) true humanitarians in the world. Imran Khan is fooling no one by labeling Kashmir a humanitarian issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    $22bn was sent by overseas PK last year, can you explain the effect on the economy if this money wasn't sent?
    How about we all leave Pakistan and send money home. Do you think the country will prosper?

    The impact of remittance is overstated by people who will feel guilty about their lack of contribution to the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    There are very few (if any) true humanitarians in the world. Imran Khan is fooling no one by labeling Kashmir a humanitarian issue.
    If that is what takes to raise the voice for the people of Kahsmiri then I am glad to be fooled by Imran Khan.

    Who are you trying to fool because it ain't working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    How about we all leave Pakistan and send money home. Do you think the country will prosper?

    The impact of remittance is overstated by people who will feel guilty about their lack of contribution to the country.
    Come back to reality, what you have suggested is not physically impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    How about we all leave Pakistan and send money home. Do you think the country will prosper?

    The impact of remittance is overstated by people who will feel guilty about their lack of contribution to the country.
    Well its better than stealing and sending it abroad, which is what your mafia do, did those Mayfair flats buy themselves, did the Rockingham Mansion come free?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    The state doesnít support Kashmir because of humanitarian reasons.
    The all-knowing all-seeing Eye ... when it suits him.

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    Some pics from the march





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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    There are very few (if any) true humanitarians in the world. Imran Khan is fooling no one by labeling Kashmir a humanitarian issue.
    Tell me what kind of regime jails a whole population?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Hopefully it will. This circus cannot continue till 2023.

    PTI’s dholak dharnas with burger kids are nothing compared to rabid mullahs. This dharna will not be subdued easily.

    It will interesting to note the role of police. During PTI’s dharnas, when any protestors would get injured, PTI trolls would accuse the police of abusing their power.

    However, if any protestors get injured in this dharna, the same PTI trolls would accuse the protestors and defend the police.
    Will see you after few days on this forum,This is gonna change nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Some pics from the march



    I had more people at my wedding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    Will see you after few days on this forum,This is gonna change nothing.
    He supports Diesel, but no courage to go on the street with him. This is his leader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    He supports Diesel, but no courage to go on the street with him. This is his leader.
    He support JUI???It is hard to understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King-Misbah View Post
    Do you remember when your favourite Shahbaz Sharif tried to start a civil war when he blocked the then CM KPK to cross into Punjab by Punjab Police shelling? Or is this treason forgotten and forgiven by you? Did you support this treason?
    SS was his fav then, he then lost his nerve when 1/2 of SS family went on the run, he then changed to Maryam, and then she forged documents when she didn't have any properties in PK, never mind London (lol), then it was Billo until 1 trillion Rps was stolen from the poorest in PK, but according to this loser that is not a problem, as if it was his money that he is given to Billo and family and know he has put his eggs in Diesels basket. Whose next? Which of Billos sisters will he like next?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    He support JUI???It is hard to understand.
    Do you think so? He supports the biggest criminals and Diesel is the biggest one at the moment. He reminds me of a teenage girl who only loves bad boys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    Do you think so? He supports the biggest criminals and Diesel is the biggest one at the moment. He reminds me of a teenage girl who only loves bad boys.
    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    He support JUI???It is hard to understand.
    He supports anyone who is against IK even if it's Modi. 2ndly yes he is supporter of Fazlo because before elections he predicted victory for Fazlo party.

    Coming towards the topic, demands of Maulana sahab are as following

    1. IK resignation, straight re elections.
    2. Imposition of islamic rules ( I dont know which arent implemented)
    3. Release of political prisoners, including those mullahs which are arrested due to terrorist activities and due to hatred speeches.
    4. To remove ban from some of the so called religious wings, which in reality are terrorist wings.

    Now who ever support this dharna, is actually supporting these all points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hermoine Green View Post
    He supports anyone who is against IK even if it's Modi. 2ndly yes he is supporter of Fazlo because before elections he predicted victory for Fazlo party.

    Coming towards the topic, demands of Maulana sahab are as following

    1. IK resignation, straight re elections.
    2. Imposition of islamic rules ( I dont know which arent implemented)
    3. Release of political prisoners, including those mullahs which are arrested due to terrorist activities and due to hatred speeches.
    4. To remove ban from some of the so called religious wings, which in reality are terrorist wings.

    Now who ever support this dharna, is actually supporting these all points.
    And he also said that if IK won the election, he won't accept it and would go back on the street. This is democracy Diesel style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Yes because the PTI works has flower bouquets in their hands and the police attacked them with tear-gas without any provocation.

    As I said, if police attacks PTI = policeís fault. If police attacks opposition = oppositionís fault.
    PTI did not attack Punjab Police. KPK police was also attacked under the orders of SS. Wake up and smell the coffee.

    You are having a right old moan about overseas Pakistanis. Are you not overseas yourself? Stop being a hypocrite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King-Misbah View Post
    PTI did not attack Punjab Police. KPK police was also attacked under the orders of SS. Wake up and smell the coffee.

    You are having a right old moan about overseas Pakistanis. Are you not overseas yourself? Stop being a hypocrite.
    No Iím not. I only left the country for 3.5 years (2015 to 2018) for my specialization.

    Police will not attack if they are unprovoked. I hope you will continue to condemn the police if any mullah gets injured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    No Iím not. I only left the country for 3.5 years (2015 to 2018) for my specialization.

    Police will not attack if they are unprovoked. I hope you will continue to condemn the police if any mullah gets injured.
    Why did you leave the country and live abroad? Hypocrisy when you moan at others. One rule for yourself and one for others it seems.

    And I hope you condemn the mullahs if they abuse the police? Funny how you swing from left to right lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by King-Misbah View Post
    Why did you leave the country and live abroad? Hypocrisy when you moan at others. One rule for yourself and one for others it seems.

    And I hope you condemn the mullahs if they abuse the police? Funny how you swing from left to right lol
    There is a difference in going abroad for education and then coming back compared to living abroad permanently. Do you not see the difference?

    Besides, I donít pretend that I love the country. I donít. The only reason I came back was because I have family here.

    The hypocrites are the overseas Pakistanis who pretend to love and care for the country, but come up with a million excuses when you ask them to return to their beloved homeland and serve the country that they pretend to care about.

    Instead of paying taxes to western governments who use their tax money to kill Muslims in the Middle-East, these armchair patriots should walk the talk and serve their own country by providing their services here.

    Pakistan will only economically grow when educated Pakistanis stay in the country instead of contributing to the brain-drain. These remittances serve no purpose except for boosting the standard of living of the remitterís family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    There is a difference in going abroad for education and then coming back compared to living abroad permanently. Do you not see the difference?

    Besides, I don’t pretend that I love the country. I don’t. The only reason I came back was because I have family here.

    The hypocrites are the overseas Pakistanis who pretend to love and care for the country, but come up with a million excuses when you ask them to return to their beloved homeland and serve the country that they pretend to care about.

    Instead of paying taxes to western governments who use their tax money to kill Muslims in the Middle-East, these armchair patriots should walk the talk and serve their own country by providing their services here.

    Pakistan will only economically grow when educated Pakistanis stay in the country instead of contributing to the brain-drain. These remittances serve no purpose except for boosting the standard of living of the remitter’s family.
    Did you ask for an exemption from paying taxes because by your own criteria you funded the killing Muslims with taxes. So not only are you corrupt ( that is your admission), you funded the killing of Muslims( your own criteria). Who do you sleep at night?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    There is a difference in going abroad for education and then coming back compared to living abroad permanently. Do you not see the difference?

    Besides, I donít pretend that I love the country. I donít. The only reason I came back was because I have family here.

    The hypocrites are the overseas Pakistanis who pretend to love and care for the country, but come up with a million excuses when you ask them to return to their beloved homeland and serve the country that they pretend to care about.

    Instead of paying taxes to western governments who use their tax money to kill Muslims in the Middle-East, these armchair patriots should walk the talk and serve their own country by providing their services here.

    Pakistan will only economically grow when educated Pakistanis stay in the country instead of contributing to the brain-drain. These remittances serve no purpose except for boosting the standard of living of the remitterís family.
    Why couldn't you complete your education in Pakistan? After all both your favourite parties governed Pakistan in the past decade for the very least. Were they unable to deliver education institutions for you?

    You are being really naive here. Many overseas Pakistanis are 3rd generation Pakistanis. They did not leave the country in the first place. It is difficult to pack your bags and leave. They love the country that their grandparents resided in, thus they care for its future.

    Taxes are not only to fund wars but also for services such as health care and infrastructure etc. Again your being naive here, as they are in a system and can not stop paying taxes. Otherwise, they will get penalised. Yet again, what would you know about taxes being an elite Pakistani.

    Remittances make a big difference as foreign currency is coming into the country. The families do benefit but yet again they help the local economy by purchasing products/ services. A naive point again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King-Misbah View Post
    Why couldn't you complete your education in Pakistan? After all both your favourite parties governed Pakistan in the past decade for the very least. Were they unable to deliver education institutions for you?

    You are being really naive here. Many overseas Pakistanis are 3rd generation Pakistanis. They did not leave the country in the first place. It is difficult to pack your bags and leave. They love the country that their grandparents resided in, thus they care for its future.

    Taxes are not only to fund wars but also for services such as health care and infrastructure etc. Again your being naive here, as they are in a system and can not stop paying taxes. Otherwise, they will get penalised. Yet again, what would you know about taxes being an elite Pakistani.

    Remittances make a big difference as foreign currency is coming into the country. The families do benefit but yet again they help the local economy by purchasing products/ services. A naive point again.

    I don't even know why I wasted my time to reply to you as quite evidently your a troll.
    Heís been attacking overseas Pakistanis ever since 30 000 American-Pakistanis decided to welcome Imran Khan at the Capital One Arena .

    Heís not mad at overseas Pakistanis, he just hates Imran Khan - so much so, that heís willing to support Fazlur Rehmanís íMaulana Marchí in the name of ípragmatismí and ípracticalityí while calling others hypocrites for doing the same thing.

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    Mamoon is a smart guy who has mastered the art of understanding what Pakistanis and most people truly want and knows when to take positions and voice opinions that will inflame people and upset them, he also has a fetish for being a true downer where he pours ultimate pessimism and demoralization over an optimistic and positive environment. Overall he has truly mastered the art of controversy and getting under people's skin. I don't think for a second that whatever he utters is genuine at all after all how can you take a guy seriously who criticizes Pakistani people, society for being radicalized, for being viewed as terrorists, extremists by the West and at the same time wholeheartedly praising Diesel.

    He deliberately does these things just to make Pakistani people and the nation eternally depressed. True definition of a toxic individual where if I knew him personally and if he was iny circle I would have deliberately black listed him a long time ago because no matter how many triples, quadruple chances you give to toxic individuals they are just poisonous and dangerous for your health and well-being

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    Nothing is going to happen, Fazlur Rehman hardly has done anything useful in his political career. He is no inspiration, politically or religiously. Just let them protest for few days and then everybody will go home.

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    ISLAMABAD: As the JUI-F’s Azadi march has already kicked off from Karachi, the participation of Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) chairman Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari in the opposition’s public meeting in Islamabad is still unconfirmed.

    On the other hand, the heads of other major opposition parties, including Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) president Shahbaz Sharif, have already announced that they will address the participants of the Azadi march at the public meeting.

    Sources in the PPP said the party had previously decided that a final decision about Mr Bhutto-Zardari’s participation in the public meeting would be made at the last moment after closely monitoring the situation and analysing the events that would take place after start of the Azadi march on Sunday.

    Govt-opposition agreement in limbo after action against JUI-F leaders

    Meanwhile, the recent actions of the government against two senior leaders of the JUI-F have already put the agreement signed between the local administration and the JUI-F over the new venue the public meeting venue in a limbo as the opposition parties allege that the government has started violating the agreement by arresting Mufti Kifayatullah and revoking the citizenship of former senator Hafiz Hamdullah.

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    Senator Mustafa Nawaz Khokhar, the official spokesman for the PPP chairman, told Dawn that so far the party had made no decision about the participation of Mr Bhutto-Zardari in the public meeting.

    Moreover, he said the PPP had already announced a schedule of its own public meetings and Mr Bhutto-Zardari would be visiting various cities of South Punjab from Nov 1 to Nov 9. The PPP, he said, was still unaware of the actual plan of the JUI-F whether the public meeting would be held on Oct 31 or Nov 1.

    “If the public meeting takes place on Nov 1, then it will clash with PPP’s own gathering in Rahim Yar Khan,” Mr Khokhar said.

    He said the PPP chairman was also scheduled to address the public meetings in Uch Sharif in Bahawalpur on Nov 4 and Muzaffargarh on Nov 8.

    He said Mr Bhutto-Zardari would address the members of the Multan Bar on Nov 6.

    The PPP senator said as far as he knew so far JUI-F chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman had not formally asked the PPP chairman to address the Azadi march participants.

    When contacted, PPP leader and a member of the opposition’s Rehbar Committee Farhatullah Babar said the party leadership had previously decided that if the heads of the other parties would participate in the JUI-F’s public meeting, then Mr Bhutto-Zardari would also attend it.

    Mr Babar said they had come to know that Awami National Party chief Asfandyar Wali and National Party president Hasil Bizenjo had already announced that they would participate in the Azadi march. However, he said, the PML-N had not so far told them in categorical terms whether Shahbaz Sharif would attend the Jalsa or not.

    He said if Mr Sharif would decide to attend the public meeting then there was a likelihood that Mr Bhutto-Zardari would also participate in it.

    Earlier, he said, it was decided that the members of the Rehbar Committee would represent their respective parties in the public meeting.

    When contacted, PML-N’s information secretary Marriyum Aurangzeb said Mr Sharif had already announced that he would attend the public meeting.

    ANP leader Zahid Khan said that Asfandyar Wali would himself lead the party rally starting from Mardan.

    Meanwhile, the opposition reacted sharply over the recent actions against the JUI-F leaders and a number of opposition leaders alleged that the arrest of Mufti Kifayatullah amounted to the violation of the agreement.

    Mr Babar expressed concern over the government actions against the JUI-F leaders and feared more such actions in future which, according to him, could spoil the political environment.

    When contacted, a member of the government negotiating team, confirmed that the opposition had formally contacted them. He said they had told the opposition that the government team was unaware of the causes of the arrest of Mufti Kifayatullah.

    Hamdullah’s citizenship
    Interestingly, some discussants on social media claimed that the citizenship of Mr Hamdullah, which had been cancelled by Nadra declaring him an alien, had been restored by the government. However, when contacted, Mr Hamdullah and Nadra officials denied all these reports.

    Mr Hamdullah told Dawn that he had come to know about the decision of the ministry of interior on Oct 11 regarding cancellation of his citizenship. He said that couple of days later, he had filed an appeal before the ministry seeking restoration of his citizenship.

    He claimed that the ministry had even fixed a date for the hearing, but it was cancelled at the eleventh hour due to non-availability of the additional secretary, who was to hear him. Since then, he said, he had been waiting for the new date of hearing.

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    Fawad Chaudhry claims that the success of the Azadi March will result in a Taliban-style government.

    One can imagine that in such a government there would be no space for people like the Ahmadi economist Atif Mian, and the entire focus of the administration will be on liberating Kashmir instead of improving the lives of Pakistanis.

    He cannot see irony even if it hits him on the face.

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    Some men don't want power women or wealth. They just want see the world (or Pakistan) burn to ashes.

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    Jamiat Ulema-e-Islam-F Ameer Maulana Fazl-ur-Rehman joined the anti-government Azadi March from Larkana, as the caravan of protesters resumed journey from Sukkur on the second day, Monday.

    The JUI-F-led Azadi March started from Karachi on Sunday, officially beginning after an address by Maulana Fazl at Sohrab Goth to show solidarity with the people of Indian occupied Kashmir.

    While speaking at the occasion, JUI-F Ameer Fazl said that they will not deter as the ‘war has begun’.

    Fazl further said that they are fighting a political war and there exists a danger to the country’s constitution.

    Referring to the march, he said that the purpose is to strengthen democracy in the country.

    The participants of Azadi March from across the country will gather near Tarnol before entering Islamabad on October 31.

    Negotiations between the Rahbar Committee of the opposition parties and the government were successful on Saturday as the JUI-F has agreed to hold protest demonstration at the end of Azadi March at Peshawar Morr in Islamabad — steering clear of the Red Zone.

    https://www.geo.tv/latest/253193-faz...ers-second-day
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    The reality is that people like Mamoon are destroying the country.

    Him and a few others here talk arrogantly about things becoming expensive and economy failing and laying it all at the feet of IK.

    The reality is far from the truth. The poor people of Pakistan are still under the control of the mafia terrorists that ruled and looted the country on and off for the last 30 years.

    Daily traders are grossing up prices before selling to the poor. Surplus grains are being stock piled and burnt.

    High Court judges are bought so justice is nigh on impossible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Fawad Chaudhry claims that the success of the Azadi March will result in a Taliban-style government.

    One can imagine that in such a government there would be no space for people like the Ahmadi economist Atif Mian, and the entire focus of the administration will be on liberating Kashmir instead of improving the lives of Pakistanis.

    He cannot see irony even if it hits him on the face.
    Who passed the resolution against Atif Mian? Yes your friends. So do you want explain why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Mamoon is a smart guy who has mastered the art of understanding what Pakistanis and most people truly want and knows when to take positions and voice opinions that will inflame people and upset them, he also has a fetish for being a true downer where he pours ultimate pessimism and demoralization over an optimistic and positive environment. Overall he has truly mastered the art of controversy and getting under people's skin. I don't think for a second that whatever he utters is genuine at all after all how can you take a guy seriously who criticizes Pakistani people, society for being radicalized, for being viewed as terrorists, extremists by the West and at the same time wholeheartedly praising Diesel.

    He deliberately does these things just to make Pakistani people and the nation eternally depressed. True definition of a toxic individual where if I knew him personally and if he was iny circle I would have deliberately black listed him a long time ago because no matter how many triples, quadruple chances you give to toxic individuals they are just poisonous and dangerous for your health and well-being
    I personally keep myself away from negative people as it hugely affects your health which is both physical and psychological. not saying mamoon is one like those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    Who passed the resolution against Atif Mian? Yes your friends. So do you want explain why?
    Just wondering, PTI submitted their resignations before 2014 Dharna, now will the opposition show some spine and submit their resignations from assembly?

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    The Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam-Fazl (JUI-F)'s Azadi March — an anti-government movement calling for the resignation of Prime Minister Imran Khan — entered Punjab on Monday evening, a party spokesperson told DawnNewsTV.

    JUI-F Punjab chief Maulana Attiqueur Rehman welcomed the participants of the march as they reached Kot Sabzal town in Rahim Yar Khan district after travelling from Sukkur.

    Earlier today, JUI-F chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman while addressing the marchers had said: "The war has been announced and now [the party] cannot retreat. We are moving forward with full confidence. We have to protect the Constitution, democracy and Pakistan because the incumbent government has put the survival of the country at risk."

    "The Constitution has been made a joke in this country," he said, alleging that the prime minister has become a security risk. "He [Prime Minister Imran] has ruined the economy, and a country with a devastated economy can't survive. We approached the masses against him and took out 15 million marches and now we are able to help the people get rid of the government," the JUI-F chief said.

    Rehman said that the government is restricting the media.

    "When the fake prime minister talks to media, he says that he didn't impose any restriction. He should tell the nation under whose supervision the Pakistan Media Regulatory Authority (Pemra), which has issued a letter restricting TV anchors, works."

    PPP Sindh President Nisar Khuhro, Ali Akbar Gujjar of the PML-N, Allama Shah Owais Noorani of the Jamiat Ulema-i-Pakistan (JUIP) and others also addressed the march.

    The so-called Azadi March had set out on Sunday afternoon from Karachi's Sohrab Goth area towards Islamabad. Thousands of people, including seminary students, are participating in the march. In addition, convoys of political parties including the PPP, PML-N, Awami National Party (ANP) and others are also part of the march.

    The marchers, who spent the night in Sukkur on Sunday, are scheduled to enter Islamabad on October 31.

    During the journey to Sukkur they passed through many towns and cities of Sindh including Hyderabad, Sakrand, Nawabshah and Sanghar. However, there was a sudden change in the itinerary of JUI-F chief Rehman — who led the marchers from Karachi to Hyderabad — and instead of moving towards Sukkur with the marchers, he went to Larkana.

    Rehman joined the marchers again today.

    Fazl to announce ‘important decision’
    Before the marchers began their journey from Karachi, leaders of the opposition parties supporting the anti-government march addressed them from a stage set up on a container.

    They all called for the resignation of Prime Minister Imran and the holding of fresh elections in the country.

    Rehman in his speech criticised the policies of the Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) government and said that he would not budge from his demand for the prime minister’s resignation. He said he would announce an important decision after the march reached Islamabad.

    He said his party hadn't accepted the PTI government as legitimate, terming it a product of a rigged election.

    He said the Azadi March would remain within the parameters of the laws of the land.

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    PTI government has gone up a blind alley, and clearly has disaster written all over it. Only if its die-hard supporters could actually see past their bigotry.

    To this day, I regret voting for them, inspite of previously being a strong plmn critic.

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    What kind of fruitcake calls himself 'Diesel' anyway?

    What is he, a wannabe rapper?


    Have some Sehwag in your life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varun View Post
    What kind of fruitcake calls himself 'Diesel' anyway?

    What is he, a wannabe rapper?
    LOL He doesn't call himself diesel. It is a derogatory term for him "Mullah Diesel". He is one of the most corrupt politician who has been in bed with any government be it PPP, PLM-N, Musharraf etc. This is the first time in 30 years, he is not enjoying perks of being part of the gov.
    It is alleged, he got permits to sell diesel back in the 90s through improper means.

    BTW, why is this march even happening? This guy lost his seat.
    What is he alleging?

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    The Islamabad High Court (IHC) on Tuesday suspended the National Database and Registration Authority's (Nadra) decision to cancel the citizenship of Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam-Fazl (JUI-F) leader Hafiz Hamdullah.

    Hearing a petition filed by the former senator and minister, IHC Chief Justice Athar Minallah sought a reply from Nadra within two weeks and directed the authority as well as the interior ministry not to take any sort of action against Hamdullah.

    On Sunday, it was reported that Nadra declared Hamdullah an 'alien' after finding that he had 'fraudulently obtained' his computerised national identity card (CNIC), which was subsequently cancelled.

    While the government decision had been taken two weeks prior, it came to the limelight only days before the JUI-F’s so-called 'Azadi March' on Islamabad. A notification issued by the Pakistan Electronic Media Regulatory Authority (Pemra) barring TV channels from inviting Hamdullah to talk shows as a guest had referred to a Nadra letter dated Oct 11.

    In his reaction, the JUI-F leader blamed state institutions of 'political victimisation' and said no one in his family, including his father, had ever been accused of being an alien. He said his father was an employee of the education department in 1974 and he had already provided documents to Nadra to prove it.

    During court proceedings today, Hamdullah said Nadra had cancelled his CNIC and he had submitted a petition against the decision; however, no action had been taken on the application for a week. He said Nadra's decision should be declared void and the interior ministry should be stopped from taking any action.

    Officials representing Nadra told the court that in December 2018, a letter was written to the JUI-F leader regarding his citizenship and a district-level committee had been formed. Following this, Hamdullah had appeared before the committee, which had asked him for his documentation.

    According to Nadra, the documents presented by the JUI-F leader had turned out to be "bogus".

    Justice Minallah asked if Hamdullah had any children and whether they had CNIC cards, to which his lawyer responded in the affirmative.

    The counsel added that one of Hamdullah's sons was even in the army.

    "Can you doubt the citizenship of the husband of a mother who sends her son to sacrifice himself for the country?" the IHC chief justice remarked.

    After hearing initial arguments, the IHC decided to suspend Nadra's decision to cancel Hamdullah's citizenship.

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    JUI-F chief to reach Lahore tonight

    JUI-F chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman is expected to reach Lahore tonight, where his first welcome reception will be held at Thokhar Niaz Baig.

    According to JUI-F spokesperson Maulana Saleemullah Qadri, the reception will include dinner. Then, the caravan will move towards Samanabad Mor via Multan Road where a welcome camp has been set up by the PPP.

    At Chaubarji Chowk, where the caravan will march towards next, a welcome camp has been set up by the PML-N.

    The caravan will then move on to Data Darbar and from there proceed on to Azadi Chowk where a big rally will be held. Rehman, along with other opposition members will address the gathering.

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    LOL at Azadi "March"..... this is the combined street power of 9 political parties and is even smaller than a corner meeting by any PTI MNA..... hakumat giranay chalay thay 10,000 log tak na jama kar sakay

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    Rehman-led 'Azadi March' caravan arrives in Khanewal

    The caravan of the anti-government 'Azadi March' bound for Islamabad, arrived in Khanewal close to sundown.

    JUI-F chief Fazlur Rehman, is sitting atop his container as the caravan makes its way through the district.

    The Aalmi Majlis Tahaffuz Khatm-e-Nubuwwat have made preparations for dinner for the marchers, and will distribute food to them upon their arrival at the entrance to Lahore.

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    'Azadi March a symbol of resistance against fake government,' says JUI-F chief in Sahiwal address
    JUI-F chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman, while addressing a rally in Sahiwal, says that the 'Azadi March' is a "symbol of resistance which calls for Pakistan's security and an end to the fake government that rules it".

    He says that caravans from both Sindh and Balochistan have joined the march.

    "A drama of accountability is being staged to exact political revenge," says the JUI-F chief, while speaking out against the incumbent government.

    Rehman, in further criticism of the government, says that the rising inflation that the country is suffering from is the outcome of "faulty policies".

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    PML(N) can get away with allying themselves with JUI-F, but PPP will forever taint itís image as a secular/progressive party by allying themselves with Fazal-ul-Rahman.

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    ISLAMABAD: The government has expressed concern over what it claims that some participants of Azadi march of the Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam (JUI-F) are carrying prohibited arms and decided to maintain its writ during the opposition’s show of strength in the federal capital.

    The issue of security during Azadi march was raised at a meeting of the federal cabinet presided over by Prime Minister Imran Khan on Tuesday. The meeting reiterated that the prime minister would never resign on the opposition’s demand.

    “We have video clips of Azadi march in which some of the participants were carrying Kalashnikovs,” said Special Assistant to the PM on Information Dr Firdous Ashiq Awan at a press conference after the cabinet meeting.

    She said it was decided in the meeting that the government would adhere to a recent agreement reached between the opposition’s Rehbar Committee and the local administration of Islamabad regarding the venue of the march, which started from Karachi on Oct 27 and will culminate and turn into a public meeting, and maintenance of public order.

    Calling Azadi march a “Fitna march”, the special assistant said the government would deal with the agitators with an iron hand if they violated the agreement and tried to proceed to the Red Zone [the area which houses sensitive and important buildings like the Parliament House and the Supreme Court] or close to D-Chowk, where the Pakistan Tehreek-i-Insaf (PTI) had staged a sit-in for 126 days in 2014.

    “Let them come to Islamabad and then we will see how to react,” she added.

    “We have seen video clips of Maulana Fazlur Rehman while leading Azadi march and came to know that he was being accompanied by members of Ansarul Islam facing a ban. We cannot sit like a silent spectator if an unruly mob challenges the writ of the state,” Dr Awan said.

    She said Maulana Fazl was not ready to accept the government and parliament despite the fact that his own son was a member of the National Assembly.

    Nawaz Sharif’s case
    Talking about the Islamabad High Court’s verdict on former prime minister Nawaz Sharif’s bail plea, Dr Awan said the government honoured the decision but at the same time expected that courts would give similar relief to all ailing and deserving inmates in jails.

    Rejecting media reports about a possible ‘deal’ between the government and Nawaz Sharif, she, however, said: "Nawaz Sharif is said to be in bad health and we do not want to make a weak person weaker. We will fight only against the powerful," adding that Prime Minister Khan had already made it clear that there should be a clear difference between health [of ailing opposition leaders] and politics.

    In reply to a question about the possibility of Mr Sharif’s treatment abroad, she said the government had so far not received any written request from him in this regard. “The decisions about health condition of the opposition leaders have to be taken by the doctors and courts concerned,” she said.
    Source: https://www.dawn.com/news/1513757/go...ng-azadi-march.


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    IK has worked to hard for a clown to make him resign. Nothing will happen, relax.


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    JUI-F chief says country united for PM Imran's resignation

    Addressing the marchers at Yateem Khana Chowk, JUI-F chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman says that Pakistanis, from Karachi to Islamabad, are in agreement that Prime Minister Imran Khan should resign.

    The JUI-F chief says the premier still has time to "respectfully" submit his resignation, adding that Pakistanis now won't give him further time to do so.

    https://www.dawn.com/live-blog/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Mamoon is a smart guy who has mastered the art of understanding what Pakistanis and most people truly want and knows when to take positions and voice opinions that will inflame people and upset them, he also has a fetish for being a true downer where he pours ultimate pessimism and demoralization over an optimistic and positive environment. Overall he has truly mastered the art of controversy and getting under people's skin. I don't think for a second that whatever he utters is genuine at all after all how can you take a guy seriously who criticizes Pakistani people, society for being radicalized, for being viewed as terrorists, extremists by the West and at the same time wholeheartedly praising Diesel.

    He deliberately does these things just to make Pakistani people and the nation eternally depressed. True definition of a toxic individual where if I knew him personally and if he was iny circle I would have deliberately black listed him a long time ago because no matter how many triples, quadruple chances you give to toxic individuals they are just poisonous and dangerous for your health and well-being
    Brilliant, People should just ignore such toxic People. These kind of People loves drama and attention and can not love without attention, its All fake, their can not live without the feed and supply their get from attention from other People. These kind of People are very charming and master in manipulation in anything and a lot of them have NPD. In this World only around 2-5%, knows and understands what NPD is. Who can only fully understand what Npd by being in a relation with person with Npd or be a very good psychologist.


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    Journey will continue, says Maulana

    JUI-F chief Maulana Fazlur Rehman addressed the participants of the Azadi March in Sahiwal from inside his vehicle.

    He said "the journey will continue" to keep Pakistan united, for the betterment of the people and for the implementation of the Constitution.


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