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13th November 2019, 23:50 #1
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"Don’t understand how we're in Aus having changed captain, & dropped Malik & Hafeez": Inzamam-ul-Haq
Inzamam-ul-Haq speaks about the T20 leg of the Australian tour, captaincy changes and team cohesion in the first video of his Youtube channel.
“There’s no Pakistan team ever which has remained No.1 for two years in any format and I don’t understand how we are playing the toughest series in Australia having changed our captain, and dropping senior players Shoaib Malik and Hafeez.”
“Sarfraz is our T20 champion of the past two years. As captain he won 29-30 from 37 games. That is a record in itself, so removing him as captain for such as tough series is a difficult decision.”
“Giving the captaincy to Babar Azam who is a completely new captain I don’t think in Pakistan’s history that a team has gone to Australia with a new captain and team.”
“Hafeez and Malik are two of our main and senior players with experience in Australia. They were also guiding other junior players in the team. They are playing T20 leagues around the world, they have the most experience and we’ve dropped them. I find that weird.”
“For the new players it’s challenging that you’re going in such tough conditions for a debut especially for the batsmen to adjust to the Australian pitches right away. It’s not easy for the bowlers too who have to adjust to different pitches and bowl at different lines and lengths.”
“Now keeping aside the results I feel our team is not playing as a unit. All the boys are playing to give individual performances like If I get a score that’s fine."
"The management should look at this situation, give players confidence. More important than winning is that a team should look like a team when it's playing. Winning and losing is a part of the game, but when a team plays like a team we will have different results.”
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTKOoEscgyw
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14th November 2019, 00:05 #2
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Misbah is a blessing.
Thank you.
Mickey Arthur and Inzi both are demanding Malik, Hafeez, Sarfraz to be brought back. Both brought our cricket down - in Tests and ODIs, particularly.
Enough.
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14th November 2019, 00:10 #3
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Not vouching for any of them right now. And the test bit is probably true. But even if Arthur/Inzi were there for the longest ODI losing streak at one point before the world cup resurgence, they started with an ODI team which hadn't qualified for the Champions Trophy directly. At best, just kept it the same lol.
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14th November 2019, 00:12 #4
Thank God he is gone. Else Malik, Hafeez,. sarfraz.would have all been here. What does."experience" do if you have a horror record in such conditions... Looking at you Malik!!
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14th November 2019, 00:15 #5
Hope inzi is never given any sort of role for PCB again.
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14th November 2019, 00:39 #6
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I'm not a fan of Hafeez and certainly not Malik but I do think that our batting depth is so poor in t20, that Hafeez is a must. I'm sorry but there is no planet on which Asif Ali is a better t20 player than Hafeez. I appreciate that Hafeez is no Bradman, but he does do a decent job in t20s.
Malik can't hold a bat so he certainly should be nowhere near the team.
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14th November 2019, 00:43 #7
Lol at yet another player opening his youtube channel. Everyone is following suit now. Nobody gave a damn about Abdul Razzaq and lol the low number of subscribers forced him to stop posting further videos
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14th November 2019, 01:11 #8
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14th November 2019, 01:11 #9
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So Inzimam was the driving force for including both Malik and Hafeez in the World Cup squad... Pathetic.
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14th November 2019, 01:19 #10
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14th November 2019, 01:39 #11
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14th November 2019, 01:52 #12
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14th November 2019, 02:01 #13
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If you take the fake "no. 1" T20 ranking at face value, only then you'll be right. But, you'll be too naive then.
If you really think that team had it in it to beat the top teams, especially on pacy bouncy AUS wickets, then you're just delusional.
More than half of that team can't play anything over 134kph. It's good that these fake rankings are exposed, so we can work on building a team for the WT20.
Besides, T20s do not matter anyway outside the Wt20. The real deal is Tests and ODIs, where we badly suffered.
No. Check Mickey Arthur's recent press statements. He's demanding for Malik and Sarfraz to be brought back.
Mickey Arthur is the one who benched Haris Sohail and played Malik in his place at the freaking World Cup. Under his authority as a coach.
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14th November 2019, 02:10 #14
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14th November 2019, 02:37 #15
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Big fan of Inzi the selector, but these statements are totally ridiculous. What difference does having a young team make if you've been getting battered black and blue even with an experienced side?
Yes, Sarfraz's record as the T20 captain, interms of w/l ratio, was great but he cannot just continue to be a non-performer.
Less said about the inclusion of Malik and Hafeez the better.
Inzi was miles ahead of Misbah as a selector but maybe it was Mickey's influence that was keeping Inzi from making dumb mistakes.
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14th November 2019, 02:41 #16
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Seemed reluctant to try too many different options did Inzi.
Safety-first option was the favoured one.
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14th November 2019, 02:45 #17
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14th November 2019, 03:51 #18
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Chief selector Inzamam ul Haq, the worst thing to happen to Pakistan cricket in the 19 years of adhoc system.
Acted as a roadblock to Arthur and Sarfraz trying to build the team. Completely stonewalled any new batting talent to help his nephew Imam keep his place. Enhanced the careers of TTFs like Hafeez and Malik and tried his level best to get an Akmal back into the team.
Was my favorite player but as selector have never seen the amount of nepotism, power hungry acts by a selector who served the mafia and blocked merit.
Was well supported by another disaster Ehsan Mani. Threw out 6 players slated to play in World Cup to use the opportunity to get Akmal and others of his camp in the team. By the time World Cup started Inzamam was literally interfering in every domain from batting coach to coach and captain.
His open nepotism, unfair treatment of Fawad Alam, Shinwari, Junaid [during selection of world cup] will always be remembered.
I don't want to see anything associated with Inzi.
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14th November 2019, 04:24 #19
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Inzi trying to stay relevant.
Sometimes, even commentary like Inzi's is harmful to Pak cricket.
Inzi was a pretty bad captain. His only saving grace was his form with the bat. Otherwise, he was not good at all. Slow thinker, never proactive.
It's funny how guys like him and Waqar, both bad captains, given such prominent and important roles in Pak cricket.
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14th November 2019, 09:52 #20
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14th November 2019, 09:57 #21
We were very prepared for the WC, infact we had the most practice in England out of all the teams. But guess what, loser management made lots of technical blunders and ruined our chances. I mean, they sat out Haris against Australia eventhough he scored 2 centuries against them in the series before!
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14th November 2019, 09:57 #22
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14th November 2019, 10:04 #23
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14th November 2019, 10:14 #24
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14th November 2019, 10:51 #25
I will try new , after all what has these legends won IN Australia. I have been die hard fan since 2002,humiliated in every single match I went to watch. Why fear young? Last time pak won a series in Aus was in 2002 due to the X Factor Show in Akhtar. Nothing after that. 13/0...12/1......embarrassing
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14th November 2019, 12:18 #26
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Both Inzamam and Misbah are same. Both are murderers of meritocracy in
Pakistan and scared of new talent.So many careers have been destroyed by these two. Both are yes men to power, have been fairly consistent when it comes to protecting its camp players and support the politicized mafia. Prime example consistently selecting politically backed players like Ahmed Shehzad and U. Akmal. Consistency in both selectors' decisions to back certain well connected cabal, points to a third person behind them in PCB. Who in actuality has destroyed Pakistan cricket.
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14th November 2019, 23:38 #27
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15th November 2019, 00:30 #28
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Agreed. Ifti has proven decent but Asif Ali is seriously struggling. Hafeez is not good but when you compare who's "least bad", Hafeez wins hands down. Until you find another good middle order bat in t20s, Hafeez has to stay.
I agree Hafeez is not good. However he is much better than his terrible replacements. Hafeez has the odd good day. Many of our t20 team right now have only bad days.
I never like it when players are selected on the basis of the stupid seniority tag. However this t20 team that's lost its way just needs a helping hand in the middle order and assessing all the options right now, Hafeez can fill that role. It's unfortunate we don't have anyone better, but we have to work with what we have.
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15th November 2019, 00:33 #29
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Only in Pakistan cricket is where experience is based off of how long the player(s) have been in the team, as opposed to actual, consistent performance. They're currently not in the team so no big deal, but PCT even mulling the recall of Malik and Hafeez just shows that they are afraid of long-term change.
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15th November 2019, 01:13 #30
Misbah’s appointment is a punishment from Allah SWT for all Misbah fans. He wants to see whether you will support each and every one of the Visionary’s backward/idiotic decisions or will you eventually turn your back on him.
Best of luck on this test brothers, this is what you asked for. There is always another candidate in Pakistan cricket to give the role of Visionary. Afridi, Younis are also in line.Last edited by Suleiman; 15th November 2019 at 01:14.
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15th November 2019, 02:29 #31
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Hafeez has had 16 years to get it right and he has over the 16 years been awful. If you give me 16 years at that level, i too, would after a while, begin to look decent. The guys replacing have been poor but that tells us more about the poor selectors then about the talent available.
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15th November 2019, 06:05 #33
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Ok fine - please tell me who you would select in place of Hafeez. We've tried Umer Akmal, Ahmed Shehzad and Asif Ali. All have been even worse. Only Iftikar has justified his selection. I guess there may be someone in domestic who deserves selection like Ifti but no one is considering him
If you know of someone like that, I'd like to hear it.
There's no point saying don't select Hafeez and replace him with "someone better", without saying who that better player is.
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15th November 2019, 13:34 #35
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if they had 16 years, there stats would be no worse than his. He was at his best when he came back from being dropped, so what does that tell you about his mentality? He has had a decade too long and by the end of his career he had shown very little improvement. Can you name any self respecting cricketing country that would have given him more than 3 years ?
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16th November 2019, 15:26 #36
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Agree with Inzamam, you only have to see Hafeez’s exceptional batting record in Australia over the years to realise how crucial he is for the team - didn’t he get a double century in the Perth test on the last tour, or was that the tour before?
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16th November 2019, 15:57 #37
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This is why Inzi was a terrible selector. If you only ever look back and don't plan for the future, you are just creating huge issues further down the line. Hafeez and Malik are in decline and even that a decline from mediocrity. If you don't try new players, you'll never find the hidden gems who can carry Pakistan forward.
Also "trying" Umar Akmal or Ahmed Shehzad is not trying new players! It's just recycling the same rubbish over and over.
Sadly it looked like Misbah might continue this process. Although he's selected Babar as captain and picked some new young bowlers, which deserves praise but only if they are in the starting lineup and not just warming the bench.
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17th November 2019, 18:13 #38
So glad Inzi is away .. what an absolute tool!! Typical mentally of an uneducated pandoo lol but it’s ok to send Imam in to gain experience 😂😂😂
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17th November 2019, 18:34 #39
Can people stop harping about the importance of players who are nearing 40 years and have been playing since the 90s era.
However good they may be,which they are not just btw,we need to move on.
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17th November 2019, 20:05 #40
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No wonder Hafeez and Malik never got dropped. Mickey and Inzi couldn't fathom dropping that much experience and the team winning without it.
It's important Pakistan do their tinkering now to figure out their best lineup instead of scrambling at the WC like we did in the recent one where we didn't even have a fixed go-to-lineup and they are doing things like calling up Wahab last minute as a resort to fix their issues.
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27th November 2019, 23:07 #41
More gems from Inzi....
"In our days we used to make sure that pressure would not build up on players - sometimes we would go out and watch movies"
"Once Imran Khan asked me what do I do in the evenings? I thought what can I say to Imran bhai about what I do in the evenings so I said I stay in my hotel room, he said why do you stay in the room? If you stay in the room all the time, you will be down a bit so you should go out, go for dinner, go out to meet people and that helps release the pressure"
"In my experience, Pakistani coaches after defeat become very 'stiff' awkward with players"
"Players are like weapons, they need to be cleaned and fine tuned, and if they are given the right care, they will fire in the right way at the right time"
"Bob Woolmer said to me that today in the team room we will enjoy ourselves; I said how will we enjoy ourselves? he said I have arranged a few things, to drink etc"
"Bob said that I used to do this often in South Africa that whenever our team wasnt performing that well, we used to drink to get the truth out of players"
"In this way the player's inner problems used to be expressed by them"
"So today as our team isnt performing that well, we will do the same and see"
"I said, Bob, we cannot do this, so Bob asked how can we find the real issues from the players?"
"I said we pray together and this was difficult to explain to Bob; So we pray together and after that discuss things and I asked players about whats in their hearts"
"So when we prayed together, Bob also came there, and when we had a discussion after that about what was bothering us and the boys opened their hearts about their problems"
"And then came a time that he liked this idea so much that whenever he gave the times for a meeting, he would say things like 'after maghrib' we will have a meeting - he had memorized names of namaazes, so that he would say after maghrib or after isha we will sit and talk"
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27th November 2019, 23:34 #42
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Mickey made serious mistakes like not trusting spinners in test match format but please don't involve him in crimes of nepotistic Inzamam.
Mickey had packed off Hafeez for good when all of a sudden Imran Khan won election in 2018 and replaced PCB chairman Sethi with Ehsan Mani.
Ehsan Mani backed Inzamam to literally destroy national side by selecting who he desired and going on tours, interfere in coach and captain roles.
Inzamam ignored Fawad Alam and countless others' double hundreds in domestics for most of his tenure while picked up Hafeez for UAE test series v Australia on a century in domestic match.
We know what happened later Hafeez did zilch while retiring afterlast test v NZ. USman Shinwari and Junaid being thrown out to bring Wahab Riaz was they's decision.
They, I mean Mani-Inzamam nothing to do with Arthur or Sarfaraz.Last edited by ZamanFan; 27th November 2019 at 23:36.
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28th November 2019, 00:03 #43
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The drinking??? Am i misding something isn’t Inzi ultra religious?
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28th November 2019, 00:21 #44
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28th November 2019, 23:20 #45
Some more from Inzamam
"Let me tell you something interesting about Imran Khan, there used to be benches in GSL at times when we were practicing; Our practice used to be 2-3 hours long, and during that time IK would not want to see any player sitting on those benches"
"All teams come to the World Cup with preparation but the difference is based on who controls their nerves the best"
"I will advise all cricketers that never let your heads drop if your performance goes down"
"And if you do perform well, then dont become [so proud] that people wont like meeting you"
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