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2nd December 2019, 15:55 #1
Pakistan drop to #8 in ICC Test Rankings after losing Test series to Australia
Updated ICC Test rankings. Pakistan have fallen to number 8 after losing the series to Australia 2-0 #AUSvPAK #Cricket pic.twitter.com/Bg7iJRw9Wb
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2nd December 2019, 15:56 #2
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First strike from Team Misbah,
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2nd December 2019, 15:56 #3
Srilanka will be a tough series . Lot of chance we wil lose it. Spinners gonna create trouble for our batsmen
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2nd December 2019, 15:58 #4
Misbah is doing well, only one more position to go and we'll be number 9.
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2nd December 2019, 15:58 #5
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This is just the beginning of the 'dark era' under shameless misbah.
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2nd December 2019, 16:00 #6
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Never thought a day will come when Pakistan will fall below WI in Test Rankings and at Number 8.
This must be the lowest ever rankings of Pakistan in Test Rankings
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2nd December 2019, 16:00 #7
Positive is we will be number 1 from the bottom soon
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2nd December 2019, 16:05 #8
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Great job con artist Wasim Khan.
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2nd December 2019, 16:07 #9
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If you think positively. I think it's a blessing in disguise.
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2nd December 2019, 16:09 #10
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2nd December 2019, 16:10 #11
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I feel like we seriously need Amir back in the Test team. The bowling has potential but is vastly inexperienced, and the decision to fast-track so many youngsters has backfired massively.
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2nd December 2019, 16:11 #12
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People fail to realize that we're here because of.. guess who?
You don't get to #8 after a single series!
Sarfraz and Mickey Arthur combo brought us to our worse in Test cricket. We started losing at home. We were never this bad.
Time to reverse the effects of that dark era.
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2nd December 2019, 16:11 #13
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2nd December 2019, 16:12 #14
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Some very bad choices but I am pretty sure most of us haven't seen a drawn series in Australia let alone a win. The knee jerk reaction is so alarmist.
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2nd December 2019, 16:14 #15
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2nd December 2019, 16:14 #16
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2nd December 2019, 16:15 #17
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2nd December 2019, 16:26 #18
This is what happens when you select batsmen averaging 38 in FC and hoping he can go on to average 50 or something in Tests - absolutely delusional.
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2nd December 2019, 16:28 #19
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Realistically Pakistan are more like a #7 team. Definitely below Sri Lanka but comfortably ahead of windies.
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2nd December 2019, 16:31 #20
Waiting for the SL series now. Maybe Sri Lanka will again "fluke" their way to series win just like in SA.
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2nd December 2019, 16:46 #21
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My first impression is also the same. But then I think that Windies also drew 1-1 with England away and then actually beat them 2-1 at home. Can this Pakistan pull that off? I'm not so sure...
Then again Windies were also whitewashed in Bangladesh and I don't think Pakistan would be whitewashed in Bangladesh. They may lose a test and draw the series but they certainly wouldn't lose the series.
It's difficult to say which is the better team right now between these two.
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2nd December 2019, 16:50 #22
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2nd December 2019, 16:52 #23
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Apart from Baba rest of the team have compromised on there mediocracy & are not willing to improve ie Azha Shafiq.
In the coming years its going to be a straight shootout between pak & ire for 12th spot.
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2nd December 2019, 16:52 #24
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Thank you King Misbah.
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2nd December 2019, 16:53 #25
It could prove to be a blessing in disguise to get back on track in the test championship
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2nd December 2019, 16:54 #26
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They will soon start to climb up the table once they start playing at home. But the biggest problem is playing only 4 tests a year is not going to help.
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2nd December 2019, 16:55 #27
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2nd December 2019, 16:59 #28
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If we don't get rid of the rubbish players as well as misbah then i hope we get whitewashed by Sri Lanka so we can build a team. Shameless misbah had done enough damage when he was our captain, now he's on a mission to destroy our team. Never want to see this clown anywhere near our team or any cricket related stuff.
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2nd December 2019, 17:01 #29
How is Misbah to blame? He's only had one series. We were destined to lose this series, whether the coach was Misbah, Mickey, or any other name you can think of.
The truth is the Mickey/Sarfraz combination is the reason we are so low now. We can call Misbah good or bad in a years time once he's either improved our rankings or not.
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2nd December 2019, 17:20 #30
WI will beat Pakistan at home easily
By the way Pakistan dropped down due to Misbah and younis retirements
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2nd December 2019, 17:27 #31
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You can blame misbah all you like but the drop in rankings is a combination of retirement of key players and losing at home against teams we should have done better against.
The key thing is how players have not been groomed to enter test arena through junior tours. Our player development from 2015-2018 has been woeful. Not a single world class bowler apart from Abbas and even he is a doubt. Not a single world class batsman apart from babar. If you don’t work on your bench strength you’re always gonna get found out.
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2nd December 2019, 17:36 #32
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Thankfully, someone is not blinded by their hate.
The hate is making people think that we dropped to this ranking after a single series!
It's Mickey Arthur + Sarfraz combo that had dropped us to #7 ranking, after losing Tests everywhere, even at home.
Now the task is to undo those effects and start winning from home again.
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2nd December 2019, 17:41 #33
We were at #7 before this. Even though this was one of the most disgraceful performances ever we were still going to lose here and end up at number 8.
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2nd December 2019, 17:42 #34
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Can some one tell me why your selectors are not selecting fawad alam. I just checked his average and shocked, its around 58 man... U dont have atg batsmen in your eleven.. still this guy cant find a place in the 15. Is fawad anti pcb or what
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2nd December 2019, 17:42 #35
There a whole lot of problems in the Pakistan cricket team right now. The coaching setup have all the eyes locked on them right now. Susceptible selections, lack of desire and whole lot more. Misbah start has been difficult and its not gonna get easier.
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2nd December 2019, 17:43 #36
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Its a cliche, but seems Pak has forgotten it; no matter how good ur batting is, you are not going to win a test if you cant take 20 wickets. So invest on strike bowlers, nurture them, then see your rankings improve.
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2nd December 2019, 17:51 #37
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I am an indian.. but i dearly hope pakistan to improve ... I love the game of cricket.. and it needs the old pakistan badly
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2nd December 2019, 18:00 #39
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2nd December 2019, 18:03 #40
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2nd December 2019, 18:24 #42
my question exactly.
how can we go to no.8 rankings just after losing one series?
Misbah is not good but Sarfraz and Mickey didn't set the world on fire.
They are actually responsible for this state.
won't blame Mickey though as he lost battle against politics in Pakistan cricket.Last edited by MRSN; 2nd December 2019 at 18:25.
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2nd December 2019, 18:24 #43
Imagine if Pakistan wins the test championship from here
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2nd December 2019, 18:29 #44
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Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests
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2nd December 2019, 18:33 #47
You are living in a lalaland if you think Pak was this bad before Misbah retiring. Pak were at least unbeatable at home. Under Sarfraz we got whitewashed by a SL rookie team of all teams and even a weak Aus team managed to beat us. We were embarrassing in SA. We were kncoked out by BD in Asia cup. We were almost knocked out by Afg in the world cup.
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2nd December 2019, 18:36 #48
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You are the one who is pretending Misbah gave a top team to Sarfraz. After the retirement of senior players teams take time to rebuild. It was Misbah's fault who didnt groom any proper youngster and gave Azhar and Asad as our mainstays.
Btw this thread is about rankings so here we go:
When Misbah (as a captain) left: Palistan ranked no 6
When Sarfraz left: Pakistan ranked no 7
After this series under Misbah now as coach: We are ranked no 8th
See who is the main culprit?Last edited by SarfiBabarHaris; 2nd December 2019 at 18:38.
Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests
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2nd December 2019, 18:41 #49
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More than the players we need to get rid of our rubbish coach + selector + batting coach. In cricket confidence is key. Due to our legendary coach + selector + batting coach players like Haris Sohail lost complete confidence. Add to it the legendary coach + selector + batting coach told Haris Sohail to pack his bags and go home. Is this how teams are build? What does he have to say for his favorite Ahar Ali then? Go to Mars?
Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests
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2nd December 2019, 18:51 #51
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2nd December 2019, 18:55 #52
It's nothing to be ashamed of,the fact is Pakistan has to accept they are a below average team and move on.
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2nd December 2019, 18:57 #53
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2nd December 2019, 19:09 #55
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Don't think it is a result of one series. You lost to a no.5 ranked team who were just above you in the ranking before this series.
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2nd December 2019, 19:10 #56
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2nd December 2019, 19:10 #57
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Pretty rapid descent for a team that was ranked #1 only 3 years ago.
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2nd December 2019, 19:12 #58
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2nd December 2019, 19:14 #60
Heartbreaking stuff.
Can't say didn't see it coming.
The question is: can we fall lower than this?
Series against SL is a key series. And Pakistan are the underdog against SL.
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2nd December 2019, 19:47 #61
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2nd December 2019, 19:56 #62
Time to switch back to hockey
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3rd December 2019, 00:00 #63
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8 is Azar lucky number
When Azhar Ali got Charge of ODI team then down to 8 Position in rankings, exactly same in tests now,
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3rd December 2019, 00:36 #64
I kinda feel bad for @Relic , passionate and devoted fans like him deserve a better team.
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3rd December 2019, 00:41 #65
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RIP @Relic I hope you get over this loss soon.
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3rd December 2019, 00:48 #66
Misbah is just getting started
Mein inko rolaonga
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3rd December 2019, 00:51 #67
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Don't think we can realistically go lower than 9 so we'll only go up from here.
This is actually a blessing in disguise
We now have a good opportunity to get rid of the dead weight and bring in some new blood. As we have 4 tests coming up, this is the best opportunity to test out our new players and we can prepare them for the Eng Series in mid 2020.
I'm hopeful for our future
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3rd December 2019, 01:02 #69
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Terrible but this is what happens when there has been an obsession with T20 cricket and the PSL.
Dark days with more to come.Last edited by Saj; 3rd December 2019 at 01:05.
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3rd December 2019, 01:33 #72
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I tend to dis agree - I have seen WIN V England series and part of , WIN v IND & WIN V AFG as well.
In a proper 3-4 Test series, WIN will beat PAK almost every where. The equation doesn't work like whose who (results against other teams) - WIN got us all-out for 43, then lost both Test in BD by some margin.... we managed to lose to AFGs, a month later they were robbed by WIN .....
indirect comparison is often misleading because different team offers different proposition - WIN batsmen will play PAK bowlers and vice verse. After Lyon show with Pink ball, I don't think PAK batsmen are going to figure out Rakeem's off-spinners and straight one too easily, fast bowling comparison is not even a contest.
It's not that conclusive as you are suggesting.
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3rd December 2019, 01:45 #74
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No, you’ll be beaten comprehensively by WIN - I have seen enough cricket to have a feel of that. Last series that was won by PAK, was almost 3 years back - that too for an absolute stupidity by their No. 11 in last ball - but, that’s not the key.
The key differentiator is those four players were instrumental in that series win - Misbah the Captain, who is a master of attritional cricket on sluggish wicket both as Captain & batsman; Azhar Ali who played two painstaking hundreds but sucked the blood out of WIN pacers and two bowlers taking 40 of the 60 wickets.
Now, Misbah & Amir are retired, Azhar is hanging as Captain (unfortunately) while Yasir is better batsman than bowler. In contrast, Holder has turned into a fantastic performing Captain and 3-4 of their younger players have matured nicely - Hetmayer, Hope, Chase, Dorwich. Add to that the inclusion of Rakeem, who’ll bat at 9. You figure out your chances with your good cricket sense.
The last Adelaide Test actually doesn’t tell the real picture - couple of hours timely rain and a miracle by Yasir (backed by unusual fielding laps by Aussies), has kept the score line somewhat respectable- if you think losing by innings to 3 wickets is respectable, but that’s probably the bench mark these days.
In reality, with 150 overs bowled in 5 sessions, Aussies would have declared at 2nd dinner with Warner 401+*, Aussies close to 700, and then after following on; 3rd night rain took out 15-16 overs under lights, so despite losing Babar early, PAK ended the day respectfully (again) at 39/3 ..... otherwise, it would have ended at 72-6 or 74-7.
It’s timely rain that saved PAK talent from innings defeat by Warner alone - we may keep mincing words here.
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The harsh reality is 7/8 is about right because Pakistan at this time is a damn awful Test team.
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Pakistan is always a team that is banking on individual brilliance even in Test matches. Sure there are many times they collectively clicked. This team lacks that. No real dominating batsman. No real dominating bowler. So things don't automatically fall like it used to. Before the test series some even were very hopeful that they could turn the tables because of raw pace attack. No magic balls. No magical spells. Cricket has become much more professional in the last 15 to 20 years. May be in shorter format you can catch teams by surprise with one maverick performance. But in longer formats where you need to multiple sessions they are not up for it.
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