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    Why doesn't Pakistan hire a batting coach?

    I think we really need one. Misbah already has a lot of work and he is not qualified to be a batting coach. Is PCB really too cheap?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyWarsFan View Post
    I think we really need one. Misbah already has a lot of work and he is not qualified to be a batting coach. Is PCB really too cheap?
    Wasim Khan said it was up to Misbah. He said that they will recruit a batting coach if Misbah asks for one.


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    Because that would be the reasonable and logical thing to do, therefore we won't do it

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    We have misbah the "all in one"

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    Inzamam ul Haq is the man

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    I personally think Md. Yousuf could be a great batting coach for Pak.

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    We have misbah. Heís an all in 1

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    So he has experience in Head Coaching?

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    Donít need one when we have the legend Misbah to teach the boys all the tricks.

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    Will make no difference.

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    Not sure how you can teach temperament. you have to pick players who have come through ranks.

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    Pak should hire an amre or a Bangar from india - even as consultants they understand subcontinent batters better . Pak should focus on using India / sl coaches . Last two decades best batters came from here

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    Well Misbah is deemed to be the batting coach at the moment. As if he doesn't have enough on his plate.



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    Should nbe Inzi or yousuf. Both knew how to pace innings in tests and odi's something that is sorely missing from this team's batsmen.

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    Because we have Misbah, the coach to end all coaches.

    I am waiting to hear when one of the European football clubs would hire him as a manager too.


    "I score a lot of runs (playing selfishly) and my team loses, what good are those runs? ."
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    Pak team needs a proper batting coach cum mentor, assistant coach, fielding coach and a spin bowling coach.

    Aussies have Langar as their head coach but they have still gone for a separate batting coach in Greame Hick and same is the case with most other teams as well. Cricket has become too professional and its not possible for a head coach to train the batsmen on the side too.

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    Yes we should hire the batting coach and give him players like Ifti chacha and Imam who dance in the crease. PP fans and their logic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Well Misbah is deemed to be the batting coach at the moment. As if he doesn't have enough on his plate.
    Still sounds like one big cost cutting exercise to me.

    General rule of thumb you hire specialists, no idea what Wasim is thinking with this one. Just bite the bullet and bring in a batting coach and a head coach. Keep Misbah as a selector.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plumb View Post
    Yes we should hire the batting coach and give him players like Ifti chacha and Imam who dance in the crease. PP fans and their logic
    If bowling coach can contribute in selection of bowlers why cant batting coach should be able to do the same? If batting coach is hired he will definitely have a say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    If bowling coach can contribute in selection of bowlers why cant batting coach should be able to do the same? If batting coach is hired he will definitely have a say.
    too many cooks spoil the broth.... oo well "team" is already spoiled and stinks whtelse is left

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperion66 View Post
    I personally think Md. Yousuf could be a great batting coach for Pak.
    Yousuf would never work with Misbah

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperion66 View Post
    I personally think Md. Yousuf could be a great batting coach for Pak.
    Does he have any coaching experience?

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    When I played cricket we had many former state cricketers that coached and ran trials for the U-17 states and U-17 India and so on. The issue was lot of these guys don't know how to translate what they are trying to say to the players. Just because they played professional cricket doesn't mean they can coach. Also lot of these coaches had "My way or highway" attitude. They want all the batsmen to bat and score in the same areas as they did lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperion66 View Post
    I personally think Md. Yousuf could be a great batting coach for Pak.
    He wanted to do the job, but now with Misbah in charge - no chance.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    He wanted to do the job, but now with Misbah in charge - no chance.
    Pakistan's most technically sound and aesthetically pleasing test bat and a damn fine ODI player, not sure why he was never given any coaching roles even at junior levels while even fuddus like Basit Ali been coaching since ages.

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    Because grant flower was perfect ����


    Waiting for the day when there will be no p....i player in a green shirt

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperion66 View Post
    Pakistan's most technically sound and aesthetically pleasing test bat and a damn fine ODI player, not sure why he was never given any coaching roles even at junior levels while even fuddus like Basit Ali been coaching since ages.
    Well Yousuf hasn't been in PCB's good books ever since he stopped playing.

    In fact he can't even get a domestic batting coach role.



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    Quote Originally Posted by docteurmanish View Post
    Pak should hire an amre or a Bangar from india - even as consultants they understand subcontinent batters better .
    They'll be branded as anti-nationals and be disowned by their own families if they do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post

    In fact he can't even get a domestic batting coach role.
    And that is what is quite surprising considering pretty much all of your ex players love to rip PCB to shreds when they get a chance so why this step motherly attitude towards only Yousuf? He was marvelous to watch in his prime, very unfairly treated so far I must say.

    Don't get me wrong for saying this but I think Wasim Khan should find new ways, be it coaching or consulting, to keep the ex players engaged. That way they will contribute to your cricket plus won't find time to blabber nonsense on youtube, win win.

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    Batting is technically relative easy compared to bowling.
    Theres only a certain amount of shots in batting.
    Drives, cuts and flicks, pull and hooks, and sweeps, as well as blocks.
    If players cant play these shots, which many can't in domestics, they should not be picked for domestics teams.
    Coaching is meant for kids, to teach them technically how to play these shots. For adults coaches cant teach these guys how to bat or play shots, its more about tidying up any little flaws in their technique.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyperion66 View Post
    And that is what is quite surprising considering pretty much all of your ex players love to rip PCB to shreds when they get a chance so why this step motherly attitude towards only Yousuf? He was marvelous to watch in his prime, very unfairly treated so far I must say.

    Don't get me wrong for saying this but I think Wasim Khan should find new ways, be it coaching or consulting, to keep the ex players engaged. That way they will contribute to your cricket plus won't find time to blabber nonsense on youtube, win win.
    Problem with most of the Pak ex cricketers as Razzaq just gave an example is that they speak a lot of random things in media without thinking first and tarnish their image in the eyes of PCB as well when they target PCB and their appointments by going all out. Surely Yousuf can do wonders with young batsmen but he will first need to come in the good books of PCB. Ego wars between PCB and players have stolen young Pakistani players from a lot of opportunities to get knowledge and to learn some tricks of the trait from the ex greats.

    Its high time ex players start to behave sensibly and put their hands up for the U19, domestic, Pak A and roles with national team and at the same time for PCB should give them the much needed respect and proper compensation packages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNAmarkFromIndia View Post
    They'll be branded as anti-nationals and be disowned by their own families if they do that.
    I doubt ever . Indians overall love Pak cricket and to be honest , not much difference between us . Parties donít want ind pak match in india but pak cricketers are welcome in india and nobody call anybody a traitor for coaching cricket . Itís not as if they are coaching war mantra !

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    I don't get the concept of batting and bowling coaches at the international level. Do players playing at the national level really need to adjust their techniques and such?

    What exactly does a batting / balling coach do at the national level? Keep that stuff for domestic

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    Quote Originally Posted by coy0607 View Post
    I don't get the concept of batting and bowling coaches at the international level. Do players playing at the national level really need to adjust their techniques and such?

    What exactly does a batting / balling coach do at the national level? Keep that stuff for domestic
    "coach" is probably the wrong title at this level. They are supposed to be more like mentors. They should be pointing minor tweaks at this level that become habitual with time such as head on top of ball, playing straight with the new ball, keeping still etc. Not that the players themselves cant manage that but always good to have mentors in all walks of life.

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    Misbah was given the job to find a batting coach, he found one in himself and is being paid for that too.

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    It's more likely misbah will sack waqar and become the bowling coach too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kashmirilion View Post
    It's more likely misbah will sack waqar and become the bowling coach too!
    Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by docteurmanish View Post
    I doubt ever . Indians overall love Pak cricket and to be honest , not much difference between us . Parties donít want ind pak match in india but pak cricketers are welcome in india and nobody call anybody a traitor for coaching cricket . Itís not as if they are coaching war mantra !
    That's your personal opinion, mate. Not of Indians at large. Saying Indians love Pak cricket is ridiculous. Most Indians don't care about Pak cricket except mocking it for how bad it has become. There's no great players like there used to be. With the current government, the news channels at present and the influence of social media, there hasn't been a stronger anti-Pakistan sentiment in a long time.

    And yes, many people will call them traitors for coaching the Pakistan team and helping in their betterment.

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    Pakistan need batting coaches , and proper batting coaches at lower levels. Not big names , but solid person with work ethics.

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    Make Younis Khan the batting couch. Pak already missed the opportunity to appoint him as u19 couch, thus should not repeat the mistake.


    Pakistan fan from Bangladesh.


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    PCB doesn't want to waste money. I am happy with that. When we have defensive captain like Azhar, clueless head coach cum selector like Misbah, selfish and lazy bowling coach like Waqar there is no need to waste money. By tuktuking hours after hours will always lead us to defeat. Why waste money?


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