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  1. #241
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    Quote Originally Posted by giri26 View Post
    Dude seriously how many 16 year olds make Test debut and become legends? The answer is 0. Sachin was extremely talented. Someone who scored hundreds on his first tours to England, Australia, South Africa all before he turned 20. That is not giving boost, it is lack of knowledge and delusion. No one other than Razzak will say Shehzad was more talented than Sachin. Shehzad had no potential, I might agree with Umran Akmal but Shehzad was a limited batter who was ridiculed more just in this forum than praised
    Age doesnít matter - even by his own admission in the interview with Nasser he wasnít ready at 16, he didnít feel he belonged, he wasnít prepared to play that kind of pace.

    He was fast tracked.

    Of course he had some talent, you donít become an international player with 0 talent. But even some of his countrymen had more talent and ability than him, forget some of the heavyweights of natural talent like Lara, Saeed Anwar. He could never match VVSí Elegance or Azharuddinís wristy flicks. Thatís great natural talent.

    Tendulkar was a very mechanical player and yes he was very good at it, but it was more down to practice, hard work and playing a lot - repetition, repetition. Talent, not so much

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSultan View Post
    Age doesn’t matter - even by his own admission in the interview with Nasser he wasn’t ready at 16, he didn’t feel he belonged, he wasn’t prepared to play that kind of pace.

    He was fast tracked.

    Of course he had some talent, you don’t become an international player with 0 talent. But even some of his countrymen had more talent and ability than him, forget some of the heavyweights of natural talent like Lara, Saeed Anwar. He could never match VVS’ Elegance or Azharuddin’s wristy flicks. That’s great natural talent.

    Tendulkar was a very mechanical player and yes he was very good at it, but it was more down to practice, hard work and playing a lot - repetition, repetition. Talent, not so much
    Obviously everyone needs to work hard but Sachin was one of the highly talented cricketer in world cricketer. Someone who dominated domestic cricket at the age of 14/15, was one of the best players in the world by the time he was 18. Someone who could play pace and spin with equal ease. Runs in Australia, South Africa, England, New Zealand at the age of 18. If that is not talent, not sure what is. Talent is not just about playing pretty shots. Tendulkar in the 90's was very innovative and some of the shots he used to play in ODI's were brilliant. He had great technique but in now way mechanical. People who only watched Sachin post 2005 have no clue about what an aura he had in the 90's and the kind of talent he possessed as a young player.

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    Lol Razzaq himself is a nothing cricketer, he is basically what Pandya is today. All talks but no merit in his statements.

    Imagine Pandya going out and saying that Babar is a baby batsman in front of him, I have faced better bowlers than him.

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    Well, Tendulkar did score a Test century in South Africa as a real teenager and that requires talent. Unlike the fake aged spinach eating gangsta that was Razzler. Was bowling 78 mph by the tender age of "24"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ab Fan View Post
    Lol Razzaq himself is a nothing cricketer, he is basically what Pandya is today. All talks but no merit in his statements.

    Imagine Pandya going out and saying that Babar is a baby batsman in front of him, I have faced better bowlers than him.
    Razzi can say that because he played in a different era.

    Pandya canít because he plays against babar now and hasnít treated him like a baby batsman

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    Quote Originally Posted by giri26 View Post
    Obviously everyone needs to work hard but Sachin was one of the highly talented cricketer in world cricketer. Someone who dominated domestic cricket at the age of 14/15, was one of the best players in the world by the time he was 18. Someone who could play pace and spin with equal ease. Runs in Australia, South Africa, England, New Zealand at the age of 18. If that is not talent, not sure what is. Talent is not just about playing pretty shots. Tendulkar in the 90's was very innovative and some of the shots he used to play in ODI's were brilliant. He had great technique but in now way mechanical. People who only watched Sachin post 2005 have no clue about what an aura he had in the 90's and the kind of talent he possessed as a young player.
    I watched him in the 90s and believe me he didnít exude the style, elegance, panache and brilliance of Lara, Saeed bhai, Carl hooper, Azharuddin, Mark Waugh, Inzi.

    Sachin made a lot of runs but it was like watching paint dry

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSultan View Post
    I watched him in the 90s and believe me he didn’t exude the style, elegance, panache and brilliance of Lara, Saeed bhai, Carl hooper, Azharuddin, Mark Waugh, Inzi.

    Sachin made a lot of runs but it was like watching paint dry
    Lara, yes.

    Rest of the players mentioned dont hold a candle to Tendulkar in runs or crunch moments.

    Tendulkar was a free flowing batsmen.

    Not sure how it was watching paint dry.


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    Bumrah is better than Waqar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Local.Dada View Post
    Injured and undergoing rehab . However I came here for a similar question on same lines. What is Razzaq doing these days. No way he is still playing PSL, is he?
    Why would you think he is playing, how old are you

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaz619 View Post
    Why would you think he is playing, how old are you
    Well Shoaib Malik is still playing isnít he? Never say never

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Bassim View Post
    Lara, yes.

    Rest of the players mentioned dont hold a candle to Tendulkar in runs or crunch moments.

    Tendulkar was a free flowing batsmen.

    Not sure how it was watching paint dry.
    Comes down to personal preference about the style - no-one will convince me he had more style and elegance as all of the players I mentioned . Yes you can argue heís a better player than them, but not in for the categories I mentioned.

    Crunch moments - There can be a whole thread on Sachin losing it in crunch moments, weíll reserve that discussion for another thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Local.Dada View Post
    Well Shoaib Malik is still playing isnít he? Never say never
    Perhaps he should, it wouldnít shock me if he was able to compete with the pace bowling ďall roundersĒ in Pakistan

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    I think it is fair to say that Bumrah is a better bowler than even the celebrated Wasim Akram because his performances came against top teams rather than minnows. Look at his stupendous record on Cricinfo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RexRex View Post
    I think it is fair to say that Bumrah is a better bowler than even the celebrated Wasim Akram because his performances came against top teams rather than minnows. Look at his stupendous record on Cricinfo.
    Top teams in a baby era

    Baby Era

    Baby Pace

    Baby Bowler

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSultan View Post
    I watched him in the 90s and believe me he didn’t exude the style, elegance, panache and brilliance of Lara, Saeed bhai, Carl hooper, Azharuddin, Mark Waugh, Inzi.

    Sachin made a lot of runs but it was like watching paint dry
    Tendulkar was anything but "paint dry". Genuinely text book shot player with great power and timing. Always played in straight lines. Exaggerated high backlift may look appealing. Dravid does all the time. Ganguly is also very smooth. But Tendulkar's with hardly any backlift can execute a straight drive nobody can match.

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    Don't know the context in which Razzaq said this, but this is quite dumb even as a joke. He would have won a lottery too if he had bought a ticket in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSultan View Post
    Top teams in a baby era

    Baby Era

    Baby Pace

    Baby Bowler

    That is a convincing argument. I take back what I said.


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    Don't remember when was the last time Razzaq said anything sensible.

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    Tendulkar didn't have talent? Or he wasn't good to watch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSultan View Post
    Razzi can say that because he played in a different era.

    Pandya canít because he plays against babar now and hasnít treated him like a baby batsman
    Razzi can say whatever he wants. Problem is his comments doesn't hold any legitimacy considering that he was a failure of a test cricketer himself and neither does he bring in anything worth as an analyst so that holds no value anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSultan View Post
    I watched him in the 90s and believe me he didn’t exude the style, elegance, panache and brilliance of Lara, Saeed bhai, Carl hooper, Azharuddin, Mark Waugh, Inzi.

    Sachin made a lot of runs but it was like watching paint dry
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