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    I agree though, a player who can hit the greatest fast bowler of all time for 5 4s in one over, will always treat Bumrah like a baby.

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    Irfan pathan said right

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    Well he did hit 5 fours against McGrath so he might be onto something here.

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    Its a win win situation. Ex Pakistani cricketers cricketers who don't have a permanent source of income make some money by talking about India and in return insecure Indians get a good laugh.

    While some Pakistani fans on PP have bothered to defend Razzaq, those who are on YouTube mostly done against him, again putting their mouth where the money is.

    As an Indian fan i have started to cringe at this. We are going through a good run but the way Pakistani youtubers hype the Indian team lol even Indians don't hype their team as much.

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    Players like abd, kohli, butler etc failed to dominate him and heres this guy. LOL

    Hitting mcgrath for 5 fours an over means nothing there are many who dominated mcgrath in one or two match.

    How can someone defend this guy?

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    Lol at Indians they can't take it as a joke.

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    Lol at Pakistanis who try to defend this Joker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andy0204 View Post
    Lol at Indians they can't take it as a joke.
    Quote Originally Posted by Raja111 View Post
    Lol at Pakistanis who try to defend this Joker.


    Full saas bahu type fights

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeeteshssaxena View Post
    Players like abd, kohli, butler etc failed to dominate him and heres this guy. LOL

    Hitting mcgrath for 5 fours an over means nothing there are many who dominated mcgrath in one or two match.

    How can someone defend this guy?
    bumrah will be even better than mcgrath. Haters can keep hating.

    if kohli says he is the best bowler he has ever faced then I am certain there is a fair bit of truth in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    Razzaq was a great player in every sense of the word. Pakistani Popeye. Smashed atgs like McGrath . He was troubled by very average spinners though. Imran Tahir made him look like a dunce .
    Some matches are probably etched in people's memory. In ODI's, Razzaq hit a grand total of 3 sixes against McGrath's bowling.


    As a pinch hitter, when sent up the order (opening or 1 down), he was not all that impressive against McGrath. He opened once against McGrath and scored 1 run of 10 balls. In ICC 1999 World cup group match, he faced 32 balls and scored 8 runs. In the same World cup final, he scored 0 of 10 balls. In both the above matches he came in at position 3. He likely succeeded once (match 1542 - Carlton&United cup) in position 3.

    When batting down (4+ down), he hit 3 sixes - once hit him for 2 sixes in 1 one over in PSO cup and once more hit him for another 6 in a VB series match and won the match for Pak . He got out to McGrath thrice in a span of 12 matches (He did not face McGrath in 6 of the 18 matches they played together). In the matches

    Here are the Razzaq's batting stats against McGrath in the matches they played together.

    ICC Worldcup 1999
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    Match: 1458 - 32 balls - 8 runs , 1 down (batting position)
    Match: 1484 - 10 balls - 0 runs , 1 down


    Carlton&United 1999
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    'unknown' - refers to the number of balls Razzaq faced off McGrath's bowling

    Match: 1536 - unknown, 1 down , his total score 9 of 39, McGrath opened bowling (figures 10 1 35 1)
    Match: 1541 - unknown. total score 51 of 54 (4 boundaries, no 6), likely to have faced McGrath, 6 down
    Match: 1542 - unknown - very likely played McGrath well (scored 40/38), 1 down,
    Match: 1554 - unknown - but Razzaq scored 24 of 58- 4 down,

    Natwest 2001
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    Match: 1720 - 9 balls - 3 runs, 1 down
    Match: 1728 - did not face McGrath, 4 down

    PSO Tri-Nation Tournament at Nairobi 2002
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    Match: 1868 - 12 balls 1 run - Got out to McGrath, opening the innings
    Match: 1871 - did not face McGrath
    Match: 1873 - 13 balls - 19 runs - 2 sixes, 5 down (successful against McGrath in this match)

    ICC Worldcup 2003
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    Match: 1945 - did not face McGrath

    Videocon Cup - 2004
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    Match: 2162 - did not face McGrath

    VB Series - 2005
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    Match: 2205 - 7 balls 6 runs - got out to McGrath - 5 down
    Match: 2209 - did not face McGrath, 5 down
    Match: 2215 - 4 balls - 9 runs, 1 six, 5 down - won match for Pak.
    Match: 2220 - did not face McGrath - Final 1, 5 down
    Match: 2222 - 3 balls - 4 runs - Got out to McGrath - Final 2

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    Smart move from Razzaq.

    Riling up sensitive Indians is the first step to gaining views, subscribers, interview offers and perhaps roles in India. All these avenues lead to a source of income from India.

    This is how Shoaib Akhtar started, so it might work for Razzaq as well. I would also like to know about his playboy antics as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by topspin View Post
    Smart move from Razzaq.

    Riling up sensitive Indians is the first step to gaining views, subscribers, interview offers and perhaps roles in India. All these avenues lead to a source of income from India.

    This is how Shoaib Akhtar started, so it might work for Razzaq as well. I would also like to know about his playboy antics as well
    I doubt if Razaak endeared himself with Indians to earn enough. No India team or media will call him except for a couple sound bytes for riling them. But if a top pak player is happy to troll Indians for some crumbs on youtube, thatís sad. A few thousands or even lakhs views per video will not make you very rich; at least not by a top ex-cricketer standard. But then Razzaq has been unemployed for over a decade so he will probably take up anything right now.

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    If there is a better batsman than Sachin then he hasnít arrived yet: Viv Richards

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    Jasprit Bumrah, India's premier fast bowler, turned 26 on Friday with wishes from his teammates and followers coming in large numbers. While every wish was unique, Bumrah's Indian Premier League (IPL) franchise Mumbai Indians' birthday wish was a class apart. Mumbai Indians, through their tweet, not only wished Bumrah on his special day but also trolled former Pakistan all-rounder Abdul Razzaq for calling their star player a "baby bowler".

    Tagging Bumrah in their tweet, Mumbai Indians tweeted: "From a 'baby bowler' to a world-beater".

    Referring to Bumrah as a "baby bowler", Razzaq, in an interview had said that the Indian pacer would have been under pressure while bowling to him.

    "I have played against great bowlers like Glenn McGrath and Wasim Akram, so Bumrah is a baby bowler in front of me and I could have easily dominated and attacked him," Razzaq had said in an interview.

    Razzaq's comments about Bumrah, who currently holds the top spot in ICC ODI Bowlers Rankings, created a lot of stir in the country.

    His comments didn't go down well with the Indian fans and they mercilessly trolled the former all-rounder on social media, with many reminding him that he got out to a Munaf Patel delivery in the 2011 World Cup.

    Bumrah is considered to be one of the top bowlers in the world cricket across all formats of the game. He is currently recovering from an injury which he sustained while playing in the West Indies.

    In his last international appearance, Bumrah had wreaked havoc on the West Indies batsmen as he claimed his maiden hat-trick in Test cricket in the second Test of the two-match series, which India won 2-0.

    https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/jasp...y-wish-2144435



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    Let these jokers earn their bread butter using Indian names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolution View Post
    Let these jokers earn their bread butter using Indian names.
    Only dry bread crumbs. For butter something sensible should come from his mouth.

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    Our ex-cricketers have no shame at all. From calling Shehzad more talented than Tendulkar to this, Razzaq is a prime example of the lack of basic education in Pakistan.
    This man represented Pakistan for decades across the world, and still has to turn himself into a meme with his stupid statements just to gain some attention.
    PCB really needs to concentrate and invest on players' education, train them how to handle the media, how to use social networks,...At this rate, I can see the likes of Umar Akmal coming on news channels after 10 years and saying stuff like "I was not given enough chances, otherwise I was better than Kohli".

    From Oxford graduate Imran Khan to these kind of uneducated fools. Unbelievable.

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    Great job, Razzaq. Now watch him destroy us whenever he plays us next. You donít mess with the number 1 bowler in all formats!

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    And why are people bringing in that Munaf Patel ball?
    Who even was Munaf Patel?

    Didn't Kohli get caught by Shadab off Amir's bowling when it mattered most? Do we keep on making fun out of him for that?

    Razzaq smashed McGrath for 5 fours in 5 balls. Razzaq was a beast in his prime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingT View Post
    And why are people bringing in that Munaf Patel ball?
    Who even was Munaf Patel?

    Didn't Kohli get caught by Shadab off Amir's bowling when it mattered most? Do we keep on making fun out of him for that?

    Razzaq smashed McGrath for 5 fours in 5 balls. Razzaq was a beast in his prime.
    McGrath was a much bigger beast and 10x the player Razzaq could ever be. Doesn't matter if Razzaq hit him for a few sixes or fours.

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    Bumrah is not that good at the death. Imad Wasim spanks him all the time. Hell even Hafeez and Shadab can smash him.

    Bhuvneshwar is good tho lolol

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingT View Post
    And why are people bringing in that Munaf Patel ball?
    Who even was Munaf Patel?

    Didn't Kohli get caught by Shadab off Amir's bowling when it mattered most? Do we keep on making fun out of him for that?

    Razzaq smashed McGrath for 5 fours in 5 balls. Razzaq was a beast in his prime.
    Bumrah is a miles better death bowler than McGrath. It's basic cricketing logic. McGrath is a miles better bowler though as he took wickets with the new ball.

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    No doubt Razzak was a great all-rounder of his time, but definitely he is not the sharpest tool in the box - first comparing Shehzad to Kohli & now this! First of all, i cant think why ex-Pakistani cricketers are so obsessed about present Indian cricketers, when they have never played across formats in this modern era. Second almost every Pak ex-cricketer romanticizes & boasts about the greatness of the 90s Pak squad - probably when even the best ever squad led by Steve Waugh would not claim so. Hate to say this but people like Razzak & Akhter should learn some humility from Wasim Akram - that guy is the best rated & most feared bowler in the world by a mile but have never ever heard him boast about his achievements ever!!

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    Bumrah's biggest strength is his bowling in death overs. He literally bowls the last 5 overs of his spell between 40-50, yet managed a brilliant economy of 4.5 over his career and also has over 100 ODI wickets @21.

    In tests, he still has long way to go but in LOs, I think he will go down as not just India's greatest ever bowler but one of the greatest ever,only constraint being if he is able to keep up the performance with that bowling action.

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    lol what?if anything bumrah will go down as one of the greatest in test cricket. He is simply unplayable. As long as he is injury free he will break all sorts of records including mcgrath. He will be far more lethal than the old pigeon ever was. Fans of other countries should hope he sufferss a debilitating Injury because if he stays Injury free, he will undou really become on of the greatest bowlers of all time. I have never seen a talent as good as him since bond. This boy is even better than shane bond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingT View Post
    Who even was Munaf Patel?
    A 50 over world cup winner

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    Legend Razzaq averages 12 against Australia in test matches which McGrath played and 29@ mere 70 SR in ODIs.

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    Bumrah really is a baby in front of Popeye though. Officially 24 year old razzaq looked atleast 10 years older at the time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingT View Post

    Razzaq smashed McGrath for 5 fours in 5 balls. Razzaq was a beast in his prime.
    Ajay jadeja smashed Waqar in 96 WC when it mattered the most.

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    Razzler Popeye ate karahi Palak and smashed Shane warne in 99 WC FINAL..Oh wait😂

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    Pandya has a test 90 odd against a bowling attack of Steyn, Philander, Rabada and Morkel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dildilpak View Post
    No doubt Razzak was a great all-rounder of his time, but definitely he is not the sharpest tool in the box - first comparing Shehzad to Kohli & now this! First of all, i cant think why ex-Pakistani cricketers are so obsessed about present Indian cricketers, when they have never played across formats in this modern era. Second almost every Pak ex-cricketer romanticizes & boasts about the greatness of the 90s Pak squad - probably when even the best ever squad led by Steve Waugh would not claim so. Hate to say this but people like Razzak & Akhter should learn some humility from Wasim Akram - that guy is the best rated & most feared bowler in the world by a mile but have never ever heard him boast about his achievements ever!!
    Could not agree more ...... even in his analysis on game on hai or other shows in previous months he comes across as a low IQ individual . If one were trying to be generous , you could say he struggles to get his thoughts across most times

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingT View Post
    And why are people bringing in that Munaf Patel ball?
    Who even was Munaf Patel?

    Didn't Kohli get caught by Shadab off Amir's bowling when it mattered most? Do we keep on making fun out of him for that?

    Razzaq smashed McGrath for 5 fours in 5 balls. Razzaq was a beast in his prime.
    Munaf Patel is a WC gold medal winner.

    Something Razzaq cannot even buy because he doesn't have the wealth for it. That's why he keeps running to the BCCI begging for a coaching job.
    Last edited by ak619; 8th December 2019 at 14:03.

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    He has been outperformed by Jadeja who walks into team as a spinner alone in Asian conditions and then add his bowling and Fielding there. Pandya doesn't find a place.

    Outside Asia, India will go with Bumrah, Ishant, Shami and Jadeja and if they play five bowling options, Pandya will be there or else they will bat Vihari at 6.

    He is a good cricketer, nowhere at Kapil Dev level but will rate him at Razzaq level.
    Last edited by Saj; 8th December 2019 at 14:50.

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    In ODIs, Pandya will be back in the team soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freelance_cricketer View Post
    A 50 over world cup winner
    Quote Originally Posted by ak619 View Post
    Munaf Patel is a WC gold medal winner.

    Something Razzaq cannot even buy because he doesn't have the wealth for it. That's why he keeps running to the BCCI begging for a coaching job.
    So Munaf Patel was the reason you won the world cup?
    The 18th highest wicket taker was the reason you won the world cup?

    Even Ahmed Shahzad is a Champions Trophy and a T20 WC gold medal winner.
    Does it make him a well-known player? Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by sir_ji View Post
    Ajay jadeja smashed Waqar in 96 WC when it mattered the most.
    Cried in the Semis though

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    It's not even about what Razzaq said about Bumrah, we know Razzaq has a low IQ. That has been proven many times and it's obvious he just wanted clout from this.

    But it's the reaction from the indians that makes it hilarious. The way they're getting triggered over this. Shows how insecure they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingT View Post
    It's not even about what Razzaq said about Bumrah, we know Razzaq has a low IQ. That has been proven many times and it's obvious he just wanted clout from this.

    But it's the reaction from the indians that makes it hilarious. The way they're getting triggered over this. Shows how insecure they are.
    Insecurity is the word which suit you guys.
    You guys obsessed with our Indian stars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Revolution View Post
    Insecurity is the word which suit you guys.
    You guys obsessed with our Indian stars.
    Says the Indian who's on a PAKISTANI forum.
    The irony


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    Quote Originally Posted by KingT View Post
    And why are people bringing in that Munaf Patel ball?
    Who even was Munaf Patel?

    Didn't Kohli get caught by Shadab off Amir's bowling when it mattered most? Do we keep on making fun out of him for that?

    Razzaq smashed McGrath for 5 fours in 5 balls. Razzaq was a beast in his prime.
    But Kohli never said Pak bowlers are baby bowlers, isnt it? So not sure why you bringing Kohli comparison here. Yes VK did fail in CT finals but he has bashed Pakistan many many times.

    Razzaq, who is now calling Bumrah a baby bowler, had always failed against India during his playing career. In 99WC Srinath shattered his stumps, edged one to keeper against Zak in 2003 WC after being promoted to no.3, got out to Balaji in all important 2004 aman ki asha series final in Lahore and then Munaf made an absolute fool of him in 2011. Apart from one 88 runs innings in 2nd ODI 2005, I dont recall any meaningful knock by Razzaq against India.

    I am not saying Razzaq was a bad all rounder, infact I rate him a better player than Afridi but he speaks as if he was some ATG all rounder which clearly he was not, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingT View Post
    So Munaf Patel was the reason you won the world cup?
    The 18th highest wicket taker was the reason you won the world cup?

    Even Ahmed Shahzad is a Champions Trophy and a T20 WC gold medal winner.
    Does it make him a well-known player? Lol
    Doesn't matter whether he is well known to you or not. If we start judging things based on your knowledge, most things will be brand new and unknown to us.

    Bottom line is Munaf Patel is a WC winner. And Abdul Razzaq is a nobody who goes around begging the BCCI to give him a coaching job. No wonder he is making such statements. Trying to get some attention from the Indian audience. Please help him out man. He is your fellow citizen after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ak619 View Post
    Doesn't matter whether he is well known to you or not. If we start judging things based on your knowledge, most things will be brand new and unknown to us.

    Bottom line is Munaf Patel is a WC winner. And Abdul Razzaq is a nobody who goes around begging the BCCI to give him a coaching job. No wonder he is making such statements. Trying to get some attention from the Indian audience. Please help him out man. He is your fellow citizen after all.
    Botham didn't win a world cup. Is he a nobody?
    De Villiers didn't win a world cup is he a nobody?

    I bet if you ask former cricketers, who they recognise between Razzaq and Patel?
    Most, if not all, will recognise Razzaq. Not many will recognise Patel.

    Look up Razzaq's 120 against SA in 2010. He won us the game from no where.

    What match winning performances does Patel have?
    He's the actual nobody not Razzaq

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingT View Post
    Botham didn't win a world cup. Is he a nobody?
    De Villiers didn't win a world cup is he a nobody?

    I bet if you ask former cricketers, who they recognise between Razzaq and Patel?
    Most, if not all, will recognise Razzaq. Not many will recognise Patel.

    Look up Razzaq's 120 against SA in 2010. He won us the game from no where.

    What match winning performances does Patel have?
    He's the actual nobody not Razzaq
    Are you seriously comparing Razzaq to Beefy and ABD? Now I've seen everything.

    I literally cannot remember anybody bringing up Razzaq in a conversation in the last 15 years. That's how unimportant he is. Pakistanis are literally the only people who keep talking about such a pointless cricketer.

    You're talking about some useless ODI that Razzaq won that nobody but Pakistanis remember. While Munaf Patel won India a WC. He is etched in cricket's history forever. He doesn't need anybody's help to be remembered. That's the value of a WC.

    But i have to say, the real winner in all this actually is Razzaq himself. Here we are debating vociferously about him while he is out there enjoying his extra marital affairs. Finally we can use the phrase "What a player!" while referring to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ak619 View Post
    Are you seriously comparing Razzaq to Beefy and ABD? Now I've seen everything.

    I literally cannot remember anybody bringing up Razzaq in a conversation in the last 15 years. That's how unimportant he is. Pakistanis are literally the only people who keep talking about such a pointless cricketer.

    You're talking about some useless ODI that Razzaq won that nobody but Pakistanis remember. While Munaf Patel won India a WC. He is etched in cricket's history forever. He doesn't need anybody's help to be remembered. That's the value of a WC.

    But i have to say, the real winner in all this actually is Razzaq himself. Here we are debating vociferously about him while he is out there enjoying his extra marital affairs. Finally we can use the phrase "What a player!" while referring to him.
    Lol I knew this would come up.
    I'm not comparing Razzaq to AB or Botham. I'm just showing that just because he hasn't won a world cup it doesn't mean he's not important or not known.


    Munaf Patel won you the world cup with his average of 30 odd?

    Abdul Razzaq may not be world famous but he's definitely a lot more known than Munaf ""W*F IS HE" Patel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ak619 View Post
    Are you seriously comparing Razzaq to Beefy and ABD? Now I've seen everything.

    I literally cannot remember anybody bringing up Razzaq in a conversation in the last 15 years. That's how unimportant he is. Pakistanis are literally the only people who keep talking about such a pointless cricketer.

    You're talking about some useless ODI that Razzaq won that nobody but Pakistanis remember. While Munaf Patel won India a WC. He is etched in cricket's history forever. He doesn't need anybody's help to be remembered. That's the value of a WC.

    But i have to say, the real winner in all this actually is Razzaq himself. Here we are debating vociferously about him while he is out there enjoying his extra marital affairs. Finally we can use the phrase "What a player!" while referring to him.
    Does anyone know or remember Romesh Kaluwitharana?
    He was in the 1996 WC winning XI.
    No one knows him.
    Just because you were in a WC squad it doesn't mean you're relevant

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    Yes, he could beat a fifty against Bumrah, a short period of tenure but massive batting line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banton10 View Post
    Indians triggered by Abdul Razzaq statement.
    Not the least bit unless you mean a bout of laughter was triggered.

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    Munaf Patel was also a baby bowler for Razzaq.


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