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4th December 2019, 23:17 #1
Anthony Joshua beats Andy Ruiz Jr to reclaim heavyweight world titles [Post#54]
Anthony Joshua has admitted "it feels different" since losing but sent a powerful message to Andy Ruiz Jr with an intense first face off of the week.
The world heavyweight championship rivals were able to ramp up the mind games at Wednesday's press conference before their rematch on Saturday, live on Sky Sports Box Office, with ring walks from 8.30pm.
"I didn't lose heart or fire in my belly," Joshua said about losing to Ruiz Jr earlier this year. "There is no fear in my heart, my eyes or my mind.
"I didn't lose any commitment.
"There was a big change and a big shift in the division so it definitely feels different. I turn this stuff into a positive otherwise it will eat you up, and will fold into a way that I don't want it to go.
"I had to own the situation and make it work for me."
Ruiz Jr entered his first meeting with Joshua of the week wearing a New York Knicks jersey, the same attire he wore the night of his famous victory in their first fight six months ago.
In the pre-fight press conference when they first met, Joshua was jovial and allowed his then-challenger to hold the championship belts. Days later, Ruiz Jr took them permanently.
This time Joshua was far more intense and said: "You always need a challenger's mind-set. I said that with the belts around my waist.
"Hungry, determined, focused on the goal.
"Will it be a special moment [if he wins]? No because I know I belong there. When I regain the belts I will keep cool, and keep a challenger's mind-set and move onto the next target."
IBF, WBA and WBO champion Ruiz Jr replied: "AJ will come with a different game-plan and I know he is prepared, so I will be more cautious.
"He lost weight and will try to box me around.
"I don't want to let these beautiful belts go. Now that I finally made my dreams come true, there is no way I will let them go."
Anthony Joshua's coach Robert McCracken admits the defeat to Andy Ruiz Jr was tough to take, but believes it's given him extra motivation for their rematch.
Joshua upgraded his preparations with a raft of better sparring partners tailored to mimic Ruiz Jr, plus the addition of Angel Fernandez and Joby Clayton to the training team led by Rob McCracken.
He explained: "If Angel or Joby are on the pads, for instance, it gives Rob the chance to say: 'your back foot needs to be in this position' or 'your right hand is too low'.
"We're not going for good, we're going for great, and then perfection. The stakes are getting higher and there is so much information out there now. Football and rugby teams are improving so we need to level up - it's not just about brute strength and heart.
"It helps having a full camp and we invested heavily in sparring."
Joshua and Ruiz Jr will again come together at Friday's weigh-in.
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5th December 2019, 00:05 #2
It's being billed as 'Clash of the Dunes'.
Massive re-match for AJ. His career will not be over but AJ will have to wait a while for another title shot.
The most hungry man will win this. Ruiz has enjoyed a few months of lavish lifestyle, can he motivate himself again to defend his belts? Another Ruiz knockdown will help him but I'd be shocked of AJ loses this again. Ruiz is a very good boxer but really shouldn't beat either of AJ, Fury or Wilder.
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5th December 2019, 04:33 #3
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I am picking Ruiz to win again.
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5th December 2019, 04:36 #4
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Ruiz didn't just score a lucky KO. He beat Joshua all over the ring and knocked him down 3-4 times.
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5th December 2019, 04:58 #5
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5th December 2019, 06:34 #6
Ruiz slapped AJ in the first fight. AJ's chin is dodgy, Ruiz should be able to pull it off again
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5th December 2019, 12:57 #7
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AJ should win if he has half a brain. Just needs to box behind his Jab for the first 8 rounds like he did against Parker, and then the opportunities to finish should open up.
If he tries to have a flare up from the get go, off course he can lose
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5th December 2019, 14:56 #8
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Let’s not fool ourselves, AJ would’ve won the first match against Ruiz had he not been cocky and underestimated his opponent.
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5th December 2019, 19:23 #9
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Cant wait.
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5th December 2019, 23:04 #10
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AJ is 4/5 to win by KO/TKO/Tech, this is a great price considering this fight will turn into a tear up sooner or later. Can you see it going the distance? I cant find any argument for it.
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5th December 2019, 23:17 #11
Andy Ruiz v Anthony Joshua
Venue: Diriyah Arena, Saudi Arabia Date: Saturday, 7 December
Anthony Joshua says he would "definitely be bothered" if his world title fight with Andy Ruiz Jr was being used to 'sportswash' human rights abuses in Saudi Arabia.
The Briton bids to reclaim three of the heavyweight world titles from Ruiz on Saturday and has faced criticism for the fight being staged in Diriyah.
Campaigners have urged him to "speak out" about issues in the country.
"In the future maybe I can bare a different kind of flag," Joshua said.
"But at the minute it's a world championship flag. I just want to do a job."
https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/50633807
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6th December 2019, 18:53 #12
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6th December 2019, 18:56 #13
I think AJ can do well if he uses his reach advantage. He underestimated Ruiz’s speed last time. He didn’t seem himself, like he wasn’t in the Zone for some reason.
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6th December 2019, 21:35 #14
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6th December 2019, 23:00 #15
Ruiz has weighed in 3 stones heavier! Not sure what the game plan behind this esp since AJ has lost weight. This will now most likely go into the latter rounds of the fight.
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7th December 2019, 02:42 #18
Really looking forward to this, will be watching it with friends tomorrow morning.
This is HUGE for AJ's career, I wonder if he'll go hard to get the knockout because of the fear of Ruiz rocking and knocking him out or use his reach, jab and back himself to beat Ruiz on decision.
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7th December 2019, 05:26 #19
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Not that simple!
Ruiz is a counter puncher who throws combinations of punches, not single punches. Ruiz hand speed is amazingly fast for a heavyweight, more common in middlewights and lighter, but he also has a hard punch.
AJ gave up trying to jab in the first fight because he was slower to the punch than ruiz and was getting counter punched with 3/4 hard shots.
Ruiz is a seasoned amateur and professional boxer, boxing since the age of 6.
Dont get fooled by ruiz's physique, he is a far superior boxer than AJ.
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7th December 2019, 12:07 #20
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7th December 2019, 22:21 #22
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Would you believe me if i said ruiz has better stamina than AJ?
Its the reason AJ has lost weight for this fight, to increase his stamina and keep his distance, fight on the outside and keep ruiz at bay with his jab. This is how he got the points decision over joseph parker. If AJ is successful at this, he will win the fight, but the problem is keeping ruiz at bay. Ruiz will walk forward and take a punch to give 4/5 punches in return.
Very intriguing fight ahead, who wins, who knows?
I will say ruiz will win, round 9 KO!
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7th December 2019, 22:35 #23
Joshua will get flattened again. His jab was useless in the first fight, and whenever he tried to throw anything with a bit more venom, Ruiz just fired back with a flurry of punches. They weren't even particularly accurate, but they were hurting AJ. I don't think he's got any answers, and in truth, he looks like he knows it.
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7th December 2019, 23:04 #24
It's one of those fights which is not easy to analyse if am honest and I don't think it is a given that it wont go the distance. It has been said again and again that AJ needs to box at range / use his physical advantages, Lewis during his championship run was a master of just that and someone who AJ should have sort out but unfortunately the two don't get along, the fight between Lewis / Tua is a great example of the tactics he should employ. Issue with AJ is, deep down he does love a tear up and loves to unload with short arm punches like the hooks / upper cuts , these are big punches but Ruiz has more of an opportunity to counter. AJ did show he can remain composed and box to a plan at distance vs Parker but Ruiz is no Parker; but jabbing, feinting and being smart with his right hand could do him wonders, while it's important he keeps it long it's even more vital that AJ holds the centre because Ruiz cut him off so easily in the last fight and he was at all four corners of the ring which you don't expect from a man his size; he needs to be economical with his movement because he wont be able to box and move throughout the 12 rounds; the key is to not plant his feet for too long when he does engage from time to time. Ruiz on the other hand just needs to follow the same game plan from the last fight really and try to draw Joashua into a tear up / pressure him.
Ruiz came in heavy but I wouldn't read too much into it if am honest, it could just be mind games to. AJ is very very light which is a bit concerning for me, his lightest in 5 years! losing some weight is good but too much then often I have seen fighters punch resistance deteriorates further, but hopefully that doesn't have as much of a negative impact as I think it would and benefits him. He was too bulky in the past but you don't want to be too thin either, he has had a fair amount of time to gradually get rid of the excess though and from what I've read he has been sparring predominately.
Ah, so this is what it feels like
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7th December 2019, 23:13 #26
It was the most dull gloves off I have ever seen, I rather watch pain dry; both of them are quiet dull no disrespect with regards to the abilities but my god that was a big snore fest. And look, when you get KO'd it's always going to be at the back of your mind; this is why often a fight of this calibre is not recommended immediately after the initial defeat because historically the results will not be in your favour; only Floyd Patterson vs Johansson, Ali vs Leon Spinks) and Lewis vs Rahman were able to regain the HW title right after losing it so I give AJ a lot of credit for taking this rematch from the word go. However! from interviews and stuff I have read AJ seems to be pretty level headed, composed and very confident, a man who knows where he went wrong and extremely determined to fix that, the stars are not in his favour but I feel AJ has prepared very well.
Ah, so this is what it feels like
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7th December 2019, 23:14 #27
Come on Anthony Joshua! bring back the titles to England, smash this Mexican dosser to bits!!!!
Ah, so this is what it feels like
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7th December 2019, 23:15 #28
Not AJ's biggest fan but genuinely want him to win, big ask but hopefully he overcomes the demons from New York
Ah, so this is what it feels like
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7th December 2019, 23:47 #29
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The heavyweight title is either a curse or a blessing .
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7th December 2019, 23:53 #30
AJ is chinny, Ruiz is just all wrong for him
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8th December 2019, 00:40 #31
AJ is too mentally weak to be heavyweight champion.
Ruiz will win again by knocking him flat on his ***.
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8th December 2019, 02:40 #32
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Gone the 12 rounds.
Joshua wins it on points.
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8th December 2019, 02:43 #33
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What a snoozefest that was.
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8th December 2019, 02:44 #34
Appalling how many people wrote AJ off and were so confident about the outcome of this fight, absolutely outstanding performance! schooled him over the 12 rounds and in doing so proved more. Tremendous condition, controlled the pace of the fight; never looked gassed even for a moment; used lateral movement and barely threw more then 3 punch combos, nice and long, excellent use of the jab which was key and Ruiz barely troubled him, had his moments at times and credit where due for his constant pressure but he was dominated tonight, this W is fantastic for the landscape of the HW division and the scene here in the UK
Ah, so this is what it feels like
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8th December 2019, 02:45 #35
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Cowardly display by AJ. Throwing punches from the distance and soft chin
It wont be easy for him fighting someone same height as him
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8th December 2019, 02:48 #36
That's what he needs to do moving forward, it's all good looking the part for marketing or playing into the hands of casuals who always be thirsty for KO's, but this is Boxing and you need to make adjustments at the top level to get the W; a very technical and disciplined performance from AJ; I thoroughly enjoyed it
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8th December 2019, 02:53 #37
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Ruiz just said the F word on live television.
AJ said Bismillah, obviously radicalized in SA.
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Great comeback from AJ, who fought in a disciplined manner that would have made Floyd Mayweather proud.
He played it smart by keeping his distance. Ruiz looked like a fighter with two feet stuck in the desert, seriously needs to lose weight.
I hope we see a third fight, this time being held in the UK! I will definitely be going to see it live.
But if there is no third fight, AJ needs to fight the loser of Fury v Wilder. Personally, I don't think he stands a chance against any of these two. Wilder is too powerful and his tactics won't work against Fury, who is even taller than him, standing at 6 ft 9.Last edited by topspin; 8th December 2019 at 03:02.
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8th December 2019, 03:01 #39
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Ruiz was so bad. Couldn't lure AJ into a corner and should've been more aggressive after round 8.
AJ played it smart, didn't get too close to Ruiz since Ruiz has a shorter reach.
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May be he can try throwing stuff at fury from outside the ring. Just listening to AJ on BBC 5Live and he doesn’t sound very mature and self assured.
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8th December 2019, 03:10 #41
Well I wrote him off and am happy to have been proven wrong. This was a masterclass in technical boxing, might not have thrilled the fans, but from a purist POV it was a flawless performance. His movement and footwork were so good. I watched him against Parker, and although he was heavier then, he still had great footwork to stay out of range, and I thought that had gone, but here it was back better than ever.
Absolutely chuffed for him, he has gone from being a write off to a superstar once more. I just hope the talk of fighting Ruiz again was just euphoria, no one wants to see it again. He needs to move on and challenge Wilder and Fury to re-establish himself at the very top.
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8th December 2019, 03:23 #42
This in my view was the best performance oh AJ's career. Made all the adjustments he needed to make to beat Ruiz. I don't think even a lighter Ruiz can beat AJ who boxes like this. However I don't mind Ruiz getting a third cash out fight. Might look even better on AJ's resume to beat him again
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8th December 2019, 03:50 #44
Well done AJ, career back on track.
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8th December 2019, 03:59 #45
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8th December 2019, 04:29 #48
Anthony Joshua beats Andy Ruiz Jr to reclaim heavyweight world titles
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/50701313
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8th December 2019, 04:45 #49
Great work from AJ. That was some high-class boxing.
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8th December 2019, 04:57 #50
Boring fight but AJ did what he needed to win, congrats to him on a deserving win.
Still think Wilder will smoke him, one big punch and its over for AJ. He's obviously a top 3 fighter in the division, I think Fury and Wilder are ahead of him though.Last edited by Aman; 8th December 2019 at 04:59.
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8th December 2019, 05:01 #51
Yeah, credit to AJ though.
It wouldn't be easy coming back from the devastating defeat he had to Ruiz, the media and fans tore him to shreds for losing to Ruiz. It seems to have humbled him and helped him grow with the things he's saying these days and the way he fought this match.
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8th December 2019, 05:17 #52
Credit to AJ for coming back; didn’t think he had it in him.
Now all we need is Fury-Wilder 2 to face A.J. for the undisputed claim of heavyweight champ.
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I will probably get this wrong as well, but i think wilder beats fury. I think the fight will be similar to their first fight but this time wilder catches fury. I dont think fury has the power to hurt wilder, fury's only chance is a points win but i think wilder had got used to fury's style by the end of the first fight and i don't think fury will be able to keep wilder at bay for a second time.
Then if AJ vs wilder happens, AJ will try to box the same as this fight(ruiz 2 fight) keep his distance and jab. Again, i will say AJ gets knocked out, but who knows, it could be similar to this fight and with a similar result.
My prediction Wilder becomes undisputed world champion.
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8th December 2019, 11:14 #54
Anthony Joshua became a two-time world heavyweight champion with a unanimous points victory over Andy Ruiz Jr in a tense rematch in Saudi Arabia.
Six months on from the night Ruiz stunned boxing, Joshua risked seeing his career left in tatters with a second defeat, but served up 36 minutes of movement and well-timed punching to take the IBF, WBA and WBO titles back to Britain.
After cutting his Mexican rival inside the first round he never looked back and picked out smart jabs and right hands throughout before being serenaded with chants of "AJ, AJ, AJ" by 14,000 or so fans in the Diriyah Arena.
Ruiz never looked close to landing a knockdown and when scores of 118-110 118-110 and 119-109 were read out, Joshua jumped up and down in the ring in celebration, just as the man who had wrecked his US debut did in June.
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8th December 2019, 12:23 #55
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I'm hoping wilder wins. I just dont like fury ( a bit irrational but hey) I think wilder should be more aggressive as fury can't hurt him like you say and hopefully wilder gets through a couple of times.
Against wilder I reckon AJ has to go for the knock out, he will have to be more aggressive because he is a bit chinny and it is a risky fight but one he will have to take.
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8th December 2019, 14:52 #57
I agree that Wilder being undisputed is not out of question he is capable of that but the stuff on Fury's limited power is a myth, it's like saying the same about Floyd, when you change your style to utilise physical advantages or emphasise your defensive evasiveness you can't afford to load up on your punches, the key is accuracy, hit/move and hold the centre, both Floyd and Fury had more KO's in the early part of their careers because they walked opponents down prior to stylistic change. However Fury is a HW and when he sits on his punches he can hurt you, if you recall he had Wilder back pedalling after being dropped, there was still plenty of time for Wilder to go for the finish and he is one of the best at that but the man was hurt, not suggesting Fury will box that way throughout in the rematch but he will look to be a little more offensive when he doed engage, Roach felt he should have done so but as we know too much risk vs Wilder
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I think.wilder will knock out fury this time, if the fight happens.
I think wilder will also knock out AJ , again, if the fight ever happens.
AJ only chance is the exact same thing he did last night, jab and run, the big difference is wilder is an inch taller than AJ, whereas ruiz was officially 4 inches shorter, but i think he was at least 6 inches shorter.
Wilders a beast, not technical, some would say he has very little boxing skills, but what he has is a devastating knock out punch!
Wilder should be spoken in the same brackett of mike tyson and george foreman, don't know why the american public have not taken to him.
Wilder had a fantastic personality as well.
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I was watching the highlights of Wider vs Fury and do think that Fury was the better boxer and deserved to win. Especially the way he came back in the last round. Wilder on the other her hand us tall but doesn’t look too strong for his height or very skilled.
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9th December 2019, 00:44 #61
Ruiz fought like a tired ageing Tyson who was getting frustrated by a better pugilist but remained calm throughout, he had numerous opportunities to hit Joshua on the back of the head but he didn’t
Joshua fought like fury, wasn’t quite as good as Holyfield or klitchko but it’s not his natural game
Joshua gets knocked out by wilder and goes 12 rounds with fury
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No one in their right mind is going to try and knock out wilder, regardless of the fact he cant box. You saw what happened to ortiz?
Wilder only needs one punch to finish any fighter(fury got a long count, but still amazing he got up).
If ruiz can hurt AJ so badly, wilder can potentially kill him literally, God forbid!
The thing is people say wilder cant box, which is technically true, but he has an unique style which works for him.
Personally, dont see Aj getting in the ring with wilder and who can blame him. I am suprised fury is willing to get back in the ring with wilder. Its only a matter of time before wilder kills someone in the ring!
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9th December 2019, 23:47 #63
Poor fight for a HW title esp with so much hype(to sell).
Hearn called this in the same league as the Rumble in the Jungle or the Thrilla in Manilla
Ruiz didn't even train, it was all fake him putting on weight for power. People who know about boxing knew this was nonsense, power does not increase so much for HW when they put a few stones.
Wilder and Fury will destroy AJ.
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9th December 2019, 23:51 #64
Agree AJ winning is better for boxing and the UK fight scene. AJ did what he needed to win, kudos to him but a poor HW fight overall esp after the crazy hype. Ruiz is money, nothing else. He didn't train for something billed the same as the Rumble in the Jungle.
Fury v Wilder is the only fight in HW which can be on par with classics.
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10th December 2019, 02:09 #65
such a poor fight, aj ran from an obese ruiz who got tired half way through. everytime he got in close he did not look comfortable, ruiz got into his head from the last fight.
the ending was the cherry on the cake, one of the worst endings to a championship fight ive seen.
yes he got the win, but in the process he would have made wilder and fury extremely excited. he cant run from those guys for 12 rounds.
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To be honest i wanted my money back from sky for this "non fight" and if i went to saudi to watch it live, i would be peeved.
Yes tactically it was the right thing for AJ to do, but he wont be able to do it against wilder whose an inch taller and has a more lethal punch. And though fury has no power punches, hes 3 inches taller and will outmove AJ.
So i guess AJ will dodge both of them and fight shorter guys without much of a punch and basically become the new lennox lewis and slowly lose his fan base due to boring fights on the outside.
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10th December 2019, 16:14 #69
AJ needs to get in the ring with Wilder.
No more messing around. If he beats Wilder then finish his career against Fury.
Take less pay if he has too but this fight has to be made.
Strangely I think he’ll do better against the bigger guys then the smaller ones although Wilder is on a different level in terms power and Fury on a skill level.
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10th December 2019, 16:22 #70
I think he will be very wary of getting in the ring with Wilder, he might not be that technically great, but he has a fast swing, would be difficult for AJ to avoid a big haymaker for 12 rounds.
A fight with Fury could be interesting though. He isn't a one punch KO artist, and Joshua might be able to match him for boxing.
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10th December 2019, 18:20 #74
You are probably right, Fury would probably outbox AJ, but would still be an intruiging fight. Joshua is quite a handy boxer himself, and he has the size to be able to match Fury for reach so he would probably get through with a few shots of his own. Plus I really like AJ's movement and footwork, that might give him a few angles to get through Fury's defences.
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8th September 2020, 16:27 #76
Anthony Joshua says Tyson Fury 'should be looking to retire soon' after a near-12 year career.
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