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    Graeme Smith accepts role as acting director of cricket for CSA [Post #41]

    The South African Cricketers’ Association (“SACA”) today called on the Board of Directors of Cricket South Africa (“CSA”) to act decisively in order to deal with the ongoing damage being caused to the game in South Africa. This follows the latest controversy caused by attempts by CSA to silence members of the cricket media by withdrawing their media accreditation to matches.

    “It’s a sorry state of affairs when attempts are made to silence respected journalists for writing about the ongoing problems in the game,” said SACA chief executive, Tony Irish. “This is not however dissimilar to what SACA has had to endure over the last nine months, during which we have been barred from CSA sub-committees, denied access to critical information necessary for us to represent the players and had our agreements breached with impunity.”

    At SACA’s annual general meeting of players in November it was specifically mandated by the players to re-affirm its concerns relating to the financial position, the domestic restructure, the CSA/SACA relationship, the Proteas (men) team structures, the financial aspects of the MSL and CSA’s refusal to engage SACA to resolve these issues. In response to SACA letters taking these up, CSA has however persisted in its refusal to address any of the concerns and instead has stated that they are ‘sub-judice’ under the current High Court application.

    “Many of the concerns we have are not even related to the High Court application yet CSA continues to refuse to address them” said Irish. “Now in the last week there are added concerns relating to ‘unknown selectors’ selecting the Proteas team and the barring of cricket journalists from matches. It is clear to us that things are getting worse, not better.”

    “On behalf of the 310 professional cricketers which we represent we are now left to publically implore the Directors of CSA to exercise their fiduciary duties by acting to deal with these issues and to protect the game from further damage. The players not only care deeply about the game but also understand that their careers depend on its health and sustainability. From a players’ point of view we therefore want to see solutions to the current problems, and for the game to be returned to a healthy position as a matter of priority,” concluded Irish.


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    SACA TAKES FORMAL STEPS TO ADDRESS UNLAWFUL USE OF PLAYER RIGHTS


    The South African Cricketers’ Association (SACA) has today addressed a demand to Cricket South Africa (CSA) in relation to unlawful use of player commercial rights in the MSL.

    “Unfortunately SACA has again had to commence a formal process against CSA in respect of yet another situation in which the commercial rights of players in the MSL have been ignored” said SACA chief executive, Tony Irish. “CSA has used, and allowed the use of, the names and images of players in association with a fantasy league game related to MSL without any rights to do so and despite SACA having relaying to CSA that such use is unlawful. The situation has continued despite our concerns raised on repeated occasions, leaving us little option but to take formal steps.”

    “SACA has also, and simply as a precaution, requested CSA to obtain clearance from its anti-corruption unit to ensure that this use of players in a pay-to-play game does not in any way constitute an association of the players with gambling, or encouragement of betting practices, which are not permitted under CSA’s anti-corruption code. As far as we know this request has been ignored by CSA.”

    “This is yet another instance, in a growing line of instances, where CSA has flagrantly disregarded our agreements and, over the last week or so, failed to address SACA’s resulting concerns. We now feel that enough is enough.”

    “SACA has called a meeting of its Players Executive Committee and its Management Board for Friday 6th December 2019. At this meeting we will again be discussing the manner in which SACA and the players are being treated by CSA. This discussion is likely to include the possibility of the players taking some form of industrial, or protest, action. SACA has always considered strike, and other similar forms of industrial action, to be a very last resort and in SACA’s 17 years of dealing with CSA to date not one day of cricket has ever been lost to industrial action.”

    “However things have now reached a stage where we must ask what SACA, and the players, are expected to do when the leadership of CSA, both operationally and on its Board, continues to ignore our legitimate concerns and refuses to acknowledge the players as key stakeholders in the game” concluded Irish.



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    South Africa cricketers threaten strike ahead of England series

    CAPE TOWN: The South African Cricketers’ Association (SACA) have threatened strike action by players just a few weeks before England are due to arrive for a four-Test tour as growing dismay at the country’s governing body threatens to boil over.

    South Africa and England are due to meet on Boxing Day in the first Test at Centurion, but the chaos engulfing Cricket South Africa (CSA) has placed that under threat as players meet to discuss industrial action this Friday.

    SACA chief executive Tony Irish said the England fixtures are ‘unlikely’ to be affected by any industrial action, but could not rule it out.

    “We still have to discuss the principle of it [industrial action], this is a very early stage of discussion and we will be very mindful of the importance of the international fixtures. It is unlikely those will be affected,” he said. “We will be responsible around the international tours, because we know that those affect teams from outside of South Africa.”

    Irish said any strike action will be a last resort, but added the players have been left exasperated by CSA’s refusal to engage with them on a number of issues.

    “It is an exhaustion of all other means of trying to deal with issues. Agreements are breached, we raise concerns, we try to resolve issues, and the result from the other side (CSA) is just to carry on. At some stage you must decide whether you will accept that,” he said. “It is about protecting the game and making sure it is healthy and sustainable going forward. That is critical for the players, whose livelihoods depend on it.”

    SACA are embroiled in a court battle with CSA over plans to restructure the local game, expanding it from six domestic franchises to 12, but which could mean a reduction in earnings for players.

    SACA, which represents 310 professional cricketers, have previously bemoaned a lack of transparency from CSA on a range of issues relating to the financial position of the organisation and concerns around its governance.

    There is also fresh unhappiness that a Fantasy League product endorsed by CSA for their Mzansi Super League Twenty20 competition is using names and images of players without their permission, potentially also putting them at risk of unwittingly flouting gambling rules in CSA’s own anti-corruption code.

    Meanwhile, CSA will host a special board meeting on Saturday as the governing body seeks to address a series of controversies, which was compounded by Tuesday’s resignation of respected board member Shirley Zinn.

    The abrupt departure of Zinn was the latest setback for CSA Chief Executive Officer Thabang Moroe, who has had to answer questions about its declining balance sheet and its treatment of the media after five journalists had their accreditations revoked.

    The organisation has also yet to appoint a permanent director of cricket following the decision not to renew the contract of Ottis Gibson in August, with a little over three weeks to go before the start of England series.

    Zinn told South Africa’s Daily Maverick she saw little way forward for the organisation under Moroe’s leadership.

    “I came to the conclusion that after all sorts of efforts to try and improve, speak to the situation and to try and affect change at board level, I had to resign,” the newspaper quoted her as saying on Wednesday. “We fall from one crisis to another and there is no end in sight. I somehow felt if I put up my hand and took this step, for what it’s worth, I might propel this forward in some way.”

    Standard Bank, a major CSA sponsor, called an urgent meeting with Moroe on Monday to discuss, among the things, why the organisation withdrew the accreditation of five journalists deemed critical of his leadership.

    Their access was restored hours later after an outcry over press freedom.

    The bank’s chief marketing officer, Thulani Sibeko, said they were ‘gravely concerned about developments’ within the CSA administration.

    The CSA is involved in an ongoing court case with the South African players union over a proposed restructuring of the domestic game, while the courts also rejected its attempt to take over the leadership of one of the provincial unions.

    Following the meeting with the bank Moroe said mistakes had been made.

    “I unreservedly apologise on behalf of Cricket South Africa for the erroneous process that led to journalists having accreditation revoked,” he said in a statement on Tuesday.

    Moroe said the board meeting on Saturday should clear up a number of outstanding issues, “including but not limited to the director of cricket role team selection processes for the England tour and all other Cricket South Africa issues relevant to the South African public.”

    Graeme Smith, the most successful Test captain of all time, is in talks with CSA over the director role, but has publicly expressed concerns that he would not be given the ‘freedom’ to fulfil his mandate.

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    South African cricket is dying. It would take at least 10 years for them to resurrect from this like their rugby team but unfortunately cricket is not as popular as rugby in SA.

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    Even their sponsors are abandoning them now. CSA is already riddled with $44 million in debts. No Cricket Board can maintain quality and attract the best talent for long without offering competitive wages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Even their sponsors are abandoning them now. CSA is already riddled with $44 million in debts. No Cricket Board can maintain quality and attract the best talent for long without offering competitive wages.
    Standard Bank will not renew its sponsorship of the South African National Men’s Cricket Team

    JOHANNESBURG – 6 DECEMBER 2019: This morning Standard Bank informed Cricket South Africa (CSA) that it will not renew its agreement as the title sponsor of the South African National Men’s Cricket Team when it concludes on 30 April 2020.

    Standard Bank has sponsored the National Cricket Team, and the CSA development programme through the Regional Performance Centres, for a long period. We are immensely proud of the many milestones reached.

    Standard Bank Group Chief Marketing and Communications Officer, Thulani Sibeko, said the decision not to renew the sponsorship agreement was not taken lightly. Cricket is a national asset valued by millions of South Africans, many of them our clients, and is an integral part of the bank’s heritage.

    “Standard Bank is committed to upholding the highest levels of leadership, integrity and governance. In light of recent developments at CSA, which are a culmination of long standing problems which have damaged Standard Bank’s reputation, it has decided not to renew its partnership with CSA.

    We wish the National Cricket Team well in the years ahead. The Test, ODI and T-20 teams have made South Africans immensely proud over the years and we are grateful to have been a part of their journey,” says Thulani.

    Standard Bank considers it appropriate and fair to give CSA adequate notice so that it may explore alternative sponsorships to replace Standard Bank.


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    OUTCOMES OF THE COMBINED MEETING OF SACA’S PLAYERS EXECUTIVE AND MANAGEMENT BOARD – SACA CALLS FOR CSA CE AND BOARD RESIGNATIONS



    The South African Cricketers’ Association (SACA) today held a combined meeting of its Players Executive Committee and its Management Board in Cape Town. Key outcomes of the meeting are as follows:


    1. Crisis at Cricket South Africa (CSA)

    SACA calls for the resignation of the chief executive and the entire Board of CSA and for CSA’s Members Forum to appoint an interim committee to perform the duties and responsibilities of the Board until a new Board can be duly established. A highly competent acting chief executive should be immediately appointed.

    SACA also calls for a full, and independently conducted, investigation into how this crisis has arisen and who is responsible. This should cover at least the last 24 months.

    “Extremely poor leadership, both at operational level and at board level, is what has got cricket into this disastrous position” said SACA Chief Executive, Tony Irish.” It is abundantly clear that there is no confidence, from any quarter amongst cricket stakeholders, in the CSA Board. No one on the Board can say that he, or she, was unaware of what has been unfolding over at least the last year. It has all been happening, in many respects even publically, under the Board’s very nose, and in some instances with Board support.”

    2. CSA Financial Position

    SACA calls for a full review of the financial position of CSA and in particular of its going concern status over a four year period from the 2019 financial year to the 2023 financial year, as well as a forensic audit into how cricket’s money has been spent over the last 24 months.

    “We have consistently flagged CSA’s financial position as being an area of real concern” said Irish. “Everyone in cricket, including the players, is dependent on the ongoing health and financial sustainability of CSA. Accurate forecasts over a financial cycle are critical as one has to understand how big the financial problem actually is in order to find a solution to it. We have also just seen the resignation from the Board of CSA of the Chairman of its Finance Committee and its Audit and Risk Committee citing amongst other things financial irregularities relating to credit card use. Yesterday more CSA employees were suspended, including the former acting chief financial officer.”

    3. Domestic Restructure

    SACA calls for an immediate reversal of the decision to restructure domestic cricket, which is the subject of court proceedings between SACA and CSA.

    “In addition to the way this decision was taken we continue to maintain that it was not in fact for sound reasons relating to finances or cricket but instead for political reasons” said Irish. “It has adverse consequences for the majority of the professional cricketers in this country as well as for the standard of top flight domestic cricket. SACA stands ready to play its part in finding genuine solutions to the financial challenges facing cricket in South Africa but will not accept a structure being forced on the players.”

    4. Industrial Action

    The possibility of players taking industrial, or protest, action in order to have concerns addressed by CSA was discussed and the possibility was not ruled out.

    “SACA re-iterates however that industrial action by the players should be viewed only as a very last resort,” said Irish. “We also wish to reassure cricket fans, and other cricket stakeholders, that SACA will not embark on industrial action with the players during the upcoming England series. We are very aware of the importance of this series to the Proteas and to England, to the many fans from both countries and to the media and commercial partners.”

    5. Proteas Mens Structures

    SACA calls for a clear and transparent structure to be put in place around the Proteas Mens Team, involving experienced, credible and reputable cricket people as soon as possible

    “In the England series across three formats which starts in three weeks time, the Proteas will be facing one of the best teams in the world” said Irish. “We know that the players will give 110% for South Africa on the field but it is critical that a proper professional structure is in place around the team. The way in which CSA has dealt with this to date, and the fact that nothing is in place, is totally unacceptable. It is ludicrous to expect players to be selected by unknown selectors.”

    6. Honouring of Agreements

    SACA calls on CSA to honour all agreements signed by it with SACA. This includes not only the MOU but all other agreements in place for MSL.

    “In relation to CSA’s latest attempt to ignore the provisions of the MSL commercial agreement it is clear that the player commercial rights were unlawfully used and that this continued even after it was drawn to CSA’s attention and is still continuing today,” said Irish. “An attempt by CSA’s chief commercial officer to publicly defend herself and CSA involved her attaching only select communications between CSA and SACA and not the full communications. The full communications can be made available by SACA.”

    7. SACA Governance and Succession

    At SACA’s annual general meeting in November the players elected and confirmed its Players Executive Committee, being Omphile Ramela (President), Khaya Zondo, Mignon Du Preez (Proteas Women) and Farhaan Behardien. The committee also includes SACA’s chief executive, ex officio. Andrew Breetzke, who has been head of legal and player advocacy at SACA since 2012, has been appointed as SACA’s new chief executive to succeed the outgoing Tony Irish who will take up the position of chief executive of the Professional Cricketers Association (PCA) in the United Kingdom in January 2020.

    Dr. Mohammed Moosajee, the former long serving manager of the mens Proteas team, has been appointed to the SACA Management Board and David Becker, former head of legal at the International Cricket Council (ICC) has been appointed as strategic and legal advisor to SACA.

    “We are very confident that even with Tony’s departure we have in place an experienced and committed Players Executive Committee, Management Board and operations team which will continue to strongly represent the players interests through the challenging times ahead” said SACA President, Omphile Ramela. “Andrew has worked with Tony for many years and has the necessary institutional knowledge and experience for the job.”

    “Tony has dedicated 17 years of his professional life to the player cause in South Africa. He has always acted with integrity and on principle, ensuring that the best interests of players and the game are protected. He has never been afraid to hold authority to account, thereby gaining the respect of many in cricket throughout South Africa and the world. Cricketers in South Africa owe Tony a debt of gratitude and his departure is a major loss for our sport. Our loss, however, is the PCA’s gain, and we wish him all the very best as he embarks on this new challenge,” concluded Ramela.


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    SUSPENSION OF CHIEF EXECUTIVE OF CSA





    Friday, 06 December 2019

    The Board of Directors of Cricket South Africa (CSA) has taken a decision to put the Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Thabang Moroe, on precautionary suspension with pay, effective 06 December 2019, on allegations of misconduct, pending further investigations. The decision to place Mr Thabang Moroe on precautionary suspension follows from the reports received by the Social and Ethics Committee and the Audit and Risk Committee of the Board related to possible failure of controls in the organisation.

    During the course of Mr. Thabang Moroe’s precautionary suspension, a forensic audit of critical aspects of the business and the conduct of management related to such aspects shall be conducted by an independent forensic team. In this regard, we urge all our stakeholder including sponsors, members of staff, players, volunteers and cricket fans to allow this process to unfold and we will provide updates on this matter.

    In the interim, the Board of Directors has mandated the Chairman to look at various options including holding discussions with Mr. Dave Richardson, the former Chief Executive Officer of the International Cricket Council (ICC), regarding the appointment of an Acting Chief Executive Officer for the duration of Mr. Thabang Moroe’s precautionary suspension.


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    Its a shame seeing such a proud cricketing with so many legends over the years facing so many issues at administrative level. I hope they can turn it around soon as game of cricket cant afford this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Its a shame seeing such a proud cricketing with so many legends over the years facing so many issues at administrative level. I hope they can turn it around soon as game of cricket cant afford this.
    People of SA don't care about cricket at all. 80% of SA population is black and they care more about rugby and football. The end is nigh for South African cricket

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    Quote Originally Posted by minamino View Post
    People of SA don't care about cricket at all. 80% of SA population is black and they care more about rugby and football. The end is nigh for South African cricket
    Yes you are correct and SA realized that it was largely due to the fact that cricket wasnt spread in most of the smaller areas and towns of SA previously. SA was trying to do that along with quota system (Though one can argue about the execution) and that is why young bowlers like Rabada, Ngidi and Sipamla came in. Obviously there is a long way to go for SA but these kind of issues are haulting the progress.

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    CSA is in a mess no doubt. However, the silver lining is that as an outcome, England would have a larger pool of Saffers to poach from


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    nothing wrong with ostracizing the whites in South Africa. They deserved to get driven away. It's not their country in the first place. I am totally for the quota system if it means that all races regardless of colour get equal opportunity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minamino View Post
    People of SA don't care about cricket at all. 80% of SA population is black and they care more about rugby and football. The end is nigh for South African cricket
    Where are you getting this rubbish from?

    Soccer is the most popular sport in SA and Rugby and Cricket are tied for the 2nd sport. In fact, Cricket is becoming more and more popular among black viewers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrish View Post
    Where are you getting this rubbish from?

    Soccer is the most popular sport in SA and Rugby and Cricket are tied for the 2nd sport. In fact, Cricket is becoming more and more popular among black viewers.
    I didn't know you knew more about cricket in South Africa than South African themselves. I have some South African friends and none of them liked cricket and they didn't even know cricket WC was going on in England.

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    I do not understand these 3rd world cricketers. They earn several times more than the average man/woman, South African cricketers in particularly come from largely white backgrounds, having been educated in a private school and not having any financial worries, in a country where the average black can't even find water...yet they want to strike over domestic cricket pay.

    Maybe they should be banned from playing international cricket again...

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    Quote Originally Posted by minamino View Post
    I didn't know you knew more about cricket in South Africa than South African themselves. I have some South African friends and none of them liked cricket and they didn't even know cricket WC was going on in England.
    Rubbish.. I follow SA forum closely. You are delusional if you think Cricket isn't popular in SA.

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    South Africa will go through some pain before they become the force they were. This is the start of it .

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    Quote Originally Posted by tyron_woodley View Post
    nothing wrong with ostracizing the whites in South Africa. They deserved to get driven away. It's not their country in the first place. I am totally for the quota system if it means that all races regardless of colour get equal opportunity.
    I know that South Africa has a deeply complex and fractured history, but this post seems a bit harsh and over the top.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    South Africa will go through some pain before they become the force they were. This is the start of it .
    My partner is South African and believe me they love their cricket. Cricket is very popular in S.A. Bit of an elitist sport though. they have plenty of talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    I know that South Africa has a deeply complex and fractured history, but this post seems a bit harsh and over the top.
    Is ''deeply complex and fractured history'' white-speak for brutal subjugation, exploitation, rape, plunder, and negation of the rights of indigenous people to exists as humans?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post

    get lost Kevin. You are an Englishman. Worry about England...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMSS View Post
    Is ''deeply complex and fractured history'' white-speak for brutal subjugation, exploitation, rape, plunder, and negation of the rights of indigenous people to exists as humans?
    History was history..

    Currently black nationalism is destroying SA cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post

    CSA has $44 million in debts. Can they afford to hire ex legends? They will not come cheap and will expect to be paid atleast their FMV if not more

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMSS View Post
    Is ''deeply complex and fractured history'' white-speak for brutal subjugation, exploitation, rape, plunder, and negation of the rights of indigenous people to exists as humans?
    None of these white cricket players did the above mentioned things, so why should they be punished for it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by minamino View Post
    People of SA don't care about cricket at all. 80% of SA population is black and they care more about rugby and football. The end is nigh for South African cricket
    They are ranked 72. Have never qualified for FIFA WC except as hosts. They have no star players as well who play abroad. So football is even bleaker than Cricket.

    Rugby is their # 1 sport. Cricket is either # 2/ 3. Majority of people who watch the game in SA are white. It's just a temporary blip, they will bounce back as SA is a sport loving nation. Even their Hockey team and crowd who watch it is primarily white.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AamchiMumbaikar View Post
    They are ranked 72. Have never qualified for FIFA WC except as hosts. They have no star players as well who play abroad. So football is even bleaker than Cricket.

    Rugby is their # 1 sport. Cricket is either # 2/ 3. Majority of people who watch the game in SA are white. It's just a temporary blip, they will bounce back as SA is a sport loving nation. Even their Hockey team and crowd who watch it is primarily white.
    Their team in football is crap but that doesn't mean it's not followed there. When I went to SA, I saw kids playing football but didn't see anyone following or playing cricket. PL dominates football fans there. If cricket was that popular there, MSL would have been a success but its not and most likely will be scrapped next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMSS View Post
    Is ''deeply complex and fractured history'' white-speak for brutal subjugation, exploitation, rape, plunder, and negation of the rights of indigenous people to exists as humans?
    Going off the point. All of the things you have cited are real and deplorable things that happened. My reply though was to a call for white people to be driven out of South African society altogether. I hope you don’t agree with that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post

    Kp whos going to pay the salary,every good player cant be a good coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrish View Post
    History was history..

    Currently black nationalism is destroying SA cricket.
    history will never be forgotten. They just won the rugby world cup via the exact same quota system that panders to black people.

    I am sure they will be fine in cricket too as the requirement is to only have 2 black players per starting 11. 4 can be of coloured origin. It's a step in the right direction. It shouldn't even be mandatory to pick non black players. It's their country. They are allowed to choose as they please.
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    Going off the point. All of the things you have cited are real and deplorable things that happened. My reply though was to a call for white people to be driven out of South African society altogether. I hope you don’t agree with that?
    its already happening. Most of the afrikaan origin saffers are either in australia or n.z.
    Not just them, plenty of indian origin saffers are in australia and n.z too.
    South Africa is a messed up country. Not exactly a safe environment for young kids to grow up in.

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    Okay been doing some digging to get my head around what's going on and these are what appears to be the main issues. South African PPers correct me if I'm wrong:

    1) Cricket South Africa are projecting massive losses over the next four years of 654 million Rand though South African Cricketers Association are claiming it's higher than that. There's a number of causes but one is the establishment of the Mzansi Super League which was a debacle where SABC picked up the TV rights for peanuts.

    Meanwhile the title sponsor Standard Bank will NOT renew their deal.

    2) Two commercial disputes have poisoned the relationship between SACA and CSA. One is the setting up of a fantasy league for the Mzansi Super League which SACA claim the CSA have no right to use the players images.

    The other is a delayed payment for commercial rights from last year's Mzansi Super League. Three CSA employees including their COO, acting director of cricket and head of sponsorship were suspended - but SACA claim the CEO Thabang Moroe knew about the delayed payments himself. Moroe has been suspended in the last few days.

    3) The restructuring of domestic cricket from franchise to provincial cricket. SACA claim at least 70 cricketers will be made redundant, and the matter has gone to court.

    4) Massive misgovernance at board level. CSA employees have been reported to be misusing the company's credit card.

    5) CSA withdrew the accreditation of five leading South African cricket journos due to their coverage of CSA incompetence. Since then CSA have been forced to do a U-turn after much condemnation.

    6) Kolpak and racial politics which have been discussed in length already.

    So it's a perfect storm that's hit South Africa who already suffer from a tanking economy and huge amounts of corruption and misgovernance.

    The main takeaway as a cricket fan that yet another nation outside the Big 3, or Big 4 if you count NZL, is falling by the wayside due to inept administration, internal politics and financial pressures. Test cricket already suffers from a lack of competitiveness between the top and bottom sides, and South Africa's decline will be a major loss to world cricket unless CSA is cleaned up from top to bottom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Okay been doing some digging to get my head around what's going on and these are what appears to be the main issues. South African PPers correct me if I'm wrong:

    1) Cricket South Africa are projecting massive losses over the next four years of 654 million Rand though South African Cricketers Association are claiming it's higher than that. There's a number of causes but one is the establishment of the Mzansi Super League which was a debacle where SABC picked up the TV rights for peanuts.

    Meanwhile the title sponsor Standard Bank will NOT renew their deal.

    2) Two commercial disputes have poisoned the relationship between SACA and CSA. One is the setting up of a fantasy league for the Mzansi Super League which SACA claim the CSA have no right to use the players images.

    The other is a delayed payment for commercial rights from last year's Mzansi Super League. Three CSA employees including their COO, acting director of cricket and head of sponsorship were suspended - but SACA claim the CEO Thabang Moroe knew about the delayed payments himself. Moroe has been suspended in the last few days.

    3) The restructuring of domestic cricket from franchise to provincial cricket. SACA claim at least 70 cricketers will be made redundant, and the matter has gone to court.

    4) Massive misgovernance at board level. CSA employees have been reported to be misusing the company's credit card.

    5) CSA withdrew the accreditation of five leading South African cricket journos due to their coverage of CSA incompetence. Since then CSA have been forced to do a U-turn after much condemnation.

    6) Kolpak and racial politics which have been discussed in length already.

    So it's a perfect storm that's hit South Africa who already suffer from a tanking economy and huge amounts of corruption and misgovernance.

    The main takeaway as a cricket fan that yet another nation outside the Big 3, or Big 4 if you count NZL, is falling by the wayside due to inept administration, internal politics and financial pressures. Test cricket already suffers from a lack of competitiveness between the top and bottom sides, and South Africa's decline will be a major loss to world cricket unless CSA is cleaned up from top to bottom.
    South Africa is heading towards Zimbabwe route and I won't be surprised if they become like them in next 5-10 years. South African economy is getting worse thanks to hosting the WC when they shouldn't have.

    Kolpak and Quota system is a big hindrance as well, even bigger than economic condition. Pakistan is a poor country as well but still, people play cricket and start a career because they love their country and want to represent it but if you impose quotas in Pakistan, for e.g allowing only 5 players from Sindh and every team must have at least 2 players from Punjab at grass root and domestic level, then players will leave the country for opportunities elsewhere.

    MSL has been a big flop in terms of finance. The salary cap for the players is quite low and the broadcasting rights were sold cheap as well and there is no existent gate money generated. I don't know what the issue is with the fantasy league but it's not a big issue and even the talent pool of SA currently is very poor. They lost to Namibia in the U19 WC a few years ago and their performance in the last U19 WC wasn't amazing either and many of those players have already migrated to NZ and England.

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    Well, CSA imploded and looks like collapsing with whole bunch of high-ranking suspensions. They're calling it a "crisis". The main sponsor even withdrew, criticising the organisation. The only possible good news is Graeme Smith might be in charge soon.

    Weird that there is nothing on pakpassion regarding this. I sent the admins a link about Smith though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozymandiasza View Post
    Well, CSA imploded and looks like collapsing with whole bunch of high-ranking suspensions. They're calling it a "crisis". The main sponsor even withdrew, criticising the organisation. The only possible good news is Graeme Smith might be in charge soon.

    Weird that there is nothing on pakpassion regarding this. I sent the admins a link about Smith though...
    Lol CSA is going out of its way to hire Smith but he is being very hard to pin down. There have been multiple meetings bw CSA and Smith, where Ali Backer has intervened and mediated, where Lawyers have had to be present, am now reading reports that Smith is pulling out because he has lost confidence in the way CSA is being run. Smith is also paid highly by broadcasters, will CSA be able to afford him?

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    SACA REPEATS ITS CALL FOR THE CSA BOARD TO STEP DOWN

    The South African Cricketers’ Association (SACA) today repeated its call for the Board of Cricket South Africa (CSA) to step down. This follows CSA’s announcement on 6th and 7th December 2019 that it had suspended its chief executive for misconduct but that its president, vice president and current directors intended to continue in office.

    Forecasts of huge and unprecedented financial deficits, ignored concerns relating to these, systematic breaches of agreements, high profile court cases and legal disputes, reports of uncontrolled spending by staff, admissions of the need for a forensic audit, suspension upon suspension of CSA employees, failure to put in place Proteas team structures, attempts to silence the media, resignations of independent directors citing financial and governance concerns and withdrawal of the game’s biggest sponsor – these have unfolded over a period of time on the Boards watch, mostly with its knowledge and some even with its support.

    “We are astounded that the Board of CSA which has led the organisation during a tumultuous period when all this has happened now refuses to take responsibility for the deep, deep crisis in which cricket finds itself,” said SACA chief executive, Tony Irish.

    “No one disagrees with the removal of the chief executive, but to suggest that the buck stopped with him alone, and for the Board to cling so desperately to power, is a matter for serious concern.”

    “The president and other Board members in fact ignored the legitimate concerns of SACA and the players for months in the same way that the chief executive did. Formal and detailed letters were sent not only to the chief executive but also to the president and chairman of the finance committee dating back several months. No replies to the letters were ever received. This happened long before SACA launched its court proceedings.”

    “When SACA’s court application was filed at the end of May 2019 we believe it became incumbent on the Board to, at very least, take a good look at the risk that this presented to the organisation, and to the game, and to deal with it expeditiously. Instead however CSA delayed the proceedings for months and its answering papers were only filed at court in November 2019.”

    “In August 2019 there was also a real opportunity to resolve the court case and the domestic restructure issue, and to deal with the financial concerns. This directly involved the president, vice president and the chairman of the finance committee and the audit and risk committee (who were all members of the Board). A roadmap agreement was agreed in principle at the meeting but there was then a refusal to follow up on the agreement, despite several requests to do so by SACA. The president himself eventually replied to SACA some seven weeks later stating that CSA would not enter into such agreement with the players’ association, effectively scuppering any chance of resolving these issues for the players.”

    “SACA has noted the appointment of Jacques Faul, as the acting chief executive, and is prepared to deal with him in good faith in order to attempt to resolve as many as possible of the current crises affecting the players. SACA will not however lend credibility to the Board of CSA by dealing with a ‘negotiating panel’ if this comprises any Board members. It is hoped that the new chief executive will appoint a highly competent director of cricket so that, even at this very late stage, he can start putting the best possible professional structure around the Proteas team.”

    “Cricket has been severely damaged by its own leadership and the game desperately needs the right people in whom the cricket stakeholders, including the players, can trust in attempting to fix as much of the damage as possible,” concluded Irish.


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    hope smith gets hired. C'mon saffers. We need you back. World needs a strong south african side. They have too many talented cricketers in the pipeline waiting to represent their prestigious and proud cricketing nation. Csnt let them rot or move elsewhere. South Africa have always been powerhouses in cricket, particularly tests.

    Good luck s.africa.

    new zeland are poaching a lot of quality saffers though like someone said before. watling, wagner, munro etc.

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    Following his team's recent struggles on the field, South Africa captain Faf du Plessis wants cricket to be the primary focus, ahead of the home series against England.

    South Africa, under du Plessis, have endured one of their toughest phases in 2019. They were the second team to be knocked out of the semi-final contention during the round robin stage of the ICC Men's Cricket World Cup 2019. They have lost five of their seven Tests this year, including each of their first three in the ICC World Test Championship, against India in October, after being whitewashed 2-0 by Sri Lanka at home at the start of the year.

    With a restructuring of the Cricket South Africa board also expected, du Plessis wants his team to keep its focus on what happens on the field.

    “There’s not much time before the English series, so now it’s about putting our focus back on to the team, making sure that the Test team gets all the things that are required for us to be successful,” du Plessis said.

    The attention needs to be on the cricket and making sure we will build ourselves as a team and ourselves as an organisation to be great again.

    “It’s been a little bit on pause the last two or three weeks, which is already too late, so we need to make sure in the next week, things will start unfolding to make sure the Test team gets the most attention. The last two weeks, there hasn’t been much attention on that, so that is what we will try and drive over the next week.”

    South Africa host England for a four-Test series, the first of which will be played at Centurion's Super Sport Park from 26 December, followed by three ODIs and as many T20Is. They are currently placed at the bottom of the ICC World Test Championship Standings, and with their next assignment coming against a higher-ranked team, du Plessis wants South Africa to build themselves up to push for serious contention again.

    “The attention needs to be on the cricket," the skipper said, "and making sure we will build ourselves as a team and ourselves as an organisation to be great again.”


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    Shame to see mighty SA and Pakistan are minnows now.

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    Cricket South Africa (CSA) and former national captain Graeme Smith today confirmed that they have finalised an agreement in terms of which Smith will be appointed Acting Director of Cricket for an interim period.

    CSA Acting Chief Executive, Jacques Faul, said: “I am delighted that Graeme has agreed to assist Cricket South Africa up until the IPL next year. Obviously, Graeme has had his concerns during the course of the last few months, but I am pleased to say that we have overcome those concerns and I look forward to working with him to urgently address pressing cricketing matters in particular.

    “Graeme is statistically the most successful Test captain in the history of the game,” added Faul. “He is a natural leader and his knowledge of the game is second to none. To have him on board to work with the professional cricket arm of CSA, as well as the cricketing pipeline, which is so vital for our game, is a massive shot in the arm for CSA during this period.”

    Commenting on his appointment, Smith said: “I’ve publicly stated a number of times that I would love to assist CSA in this difficult time, particularly in developing this new role of Director of Cricket. I’m still as passionate about South African cricket as I ever was and I’m looking forward to getting stuck into the role. There is a lot of work to be done in the next few weeks and months and my objective will always be to make a positive impact during my tenure.”


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    Cricket South Africa’s embattled board suffered a new blow on Thursday when its second major sponsor said it would only continue its association with the game if leading officials resigned.

    Insurance company Momentum said it had outlined terms to CSA for its continued backing of the sport. Momentum’s move followed an announcement by Standard Bank last week that it would not renew its sponsorship when its contract expired at the end of the season, claiming controversies surrounding CSA were harming the bank’s reputation.

    Jeanette Marais, deputy chief executive of Momentum, said the company demanded the resignation of the board, alternatively the resignation of president Chris Nenzani and vice-president Beresford Williams, and an independent financial audit of CSA.

    Marais said Momentum had also told CSA it wanted the appointment of a lead independent director “with relevant experience” and the appointment of an independent director with on-field cricket experience, as well as the resolving of issues between CSA and the SA Cricketers’ Association.

    Marais said Momentum insisted that CSA addresses its governance issues immediately and resolves them by April 30 next year.

    Momentum is the sponsor of South African one-day internationals and a one-day domestic competition as well as club, schools and age group cricket.

    The CSA board, which last week suspended chief executive Thabang Moroe, have refused to resign despite calls from the Cricketers’ Association and several other cricket personalities. Three independent directors have resigned as well as one non-independent director.

    South Africa starts a Test series against England on December 26. Former captain Graeme Smith agreed on Wednesday to act as director of cricket for a three-month period and has been given the task of overseeing preparations for the series.

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    “Although CSA has announced that SACA will be part of this committee we have yet to be formally contacted by CSA on this,” said chief executive, Tony Irish. “I confirm however that SACA will not participate in this committee until the existing restructure decision is formally withdrawn.”

    “The fact that CSA is now, for the first time, going to look into what the domestic structure should be is a clear admission that the decision eight months ago was taken without this being done. This is precisely why we had to launch legal proceedings against CSA.”

    “Given that this is the subject of the court application we cannot participate in a formal committee where decisions taken by it may affect the outcome of the court case. It is therefore obvious to us that the restructure decision must be withdrawn and the court case settled with us first.”

    “It is important to emphasise that SACA wants to find solutions both to the financial challenges which cricket now faces and to what the domestic structure should be and we have no problem in sitting down with the likes of David Richardson and Graeme Smith to find these. However this time around the process needs to be done properly and if the current MOU is to be changed, because of a change in the domestic structure, then agreement must be reached with SACA. This is the only way to bring clarity for the players on what will happen next season and to ensure that we are able to deal with how any changes will affect them.

    We also again re-iterate our call for the leadership of the CSA board to accept accountability for the position in which cricket has been placed. We repeat our call for that leadership to step down,” concluded Irish.


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    EMPLOYEE RETURNS TO CSA AFTER HEARING PROCESS IS CONCLUDED

    Tuesday, 25 February 2020

    The matter between Cricket South Africa (CSA) and Mr Corrie van Zyl has now been concluded and Mr Van Zyl will be returning to work at CSA, effective immediately.

    While the details of the case remain confidential between the employee and employer, both parties are pleased that the case has now been concluded. By mutual agreement, CSA will in due course announce Mr Van Zyl’s role in the organisation as part of the current re-alignment processes.

    As part of the renewal efforts currently taking place in the organisation, CSA looks forward to the resolution of all such outstanding matters.


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    While some have been reasonably surprised by Graeme Smith's return back to the front lines of South African cricket, former Proteas coach Gary Kirsten believes it was inevitable.

    "Biff", as Smith is affectionately known as, was appointed as Cricket South Africa's full-time director of cricket a fortnight ago having previously fulfilled the role in an acting capacity.

    He has already garnered steady support, particularly from the national women's side, whose captain, Dane van Niekerk, labelled him a "stand-up guy" with a clear vision.

    "Quality leadership, they do get it right..." Kirsten, a World Cup-winning coach with India, told a leadership webinar hosted by Wits Sport this week.

    "That's why I'm very excited that Graeme is back in South African cricket. A guy like him finds a way, they just know what they need to do to get the best out of different environments and the best out of people."

    The 52-year-old former left-hander, who was the first South African to play 100 Tests, is more intimately familiar with Smith's virtues as leader than most, having been both a team-mate and coach of him.

    "Graeme took over the reins as South African captain as a 22-year-old. I was kind of a Test veteran by then (in 2003), but right from the outset I could see that this guy is going to become a great leader. He just had the credentials," said Kirsten.

    Smith would go on to become the most successful Test captain in the history of the game, skippering the Proteas in 109 matches, winning 53.

    Both are records.

    More importantly, he managed to navigate a challenging start to his tenure by spearheading the Proteas' rise to the top of the ICC Test team rankings under Mickey Arthur and then Kirsten.

    That steeliness will be vital as CSA attempts to tackle various issues, ranging from severe financial difficulties, a potential influx of UK-based players to continued scepticism over its corporate governance.

    "A guy like Graeme has the underlying leadership quality of being able to front up to pressure," said Kirsten.


    "He never shies away from that. He's become a great leader by example. Guys like him don't mind putting themselves in the toughest of situations.

    "From my experience, Graeme is a great presence and orator. He's almost like a father figure to a lot of people."

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    SACA LAMENTS CSA'S FAILURE TO MEET CEO MISCONDUCT ALLEGATIONS DEADLINE

    The South African Cricketers’ Association (SACA) has lamented the failure of Cricket South Africa (CSA) to finalise the investigation into the allegations of misconduct against suspended CEO Thabang Moroe, within the six-month time frame promised by the CSA Board of Directors.

    “It has been reported in the media that CSA is “nowhere near” finalising the matter, and this defies belief” commented SACA CEO Andrew Breetzke.

    “It appears as if the COVID-19 pandemic is being used as a convenient excuse for the delay, in spite of the fact that CSA is operationally fully functional at the moment. There appears to be a distinct lack of will at Board level to deal with this matter, despite the dire need for finality on this material issue for all stakeholders in cricket. It is interesting to note that there were no such delays in dealing with the numerous other CSA disciplinary matters.

    “CSA will point to the forensic audit that has not yet been completed, despite the fact that the crises that have enveloped CSA over the past 18 months are evidence of a prima facie case against Moroe. It is hard to imagine another professional environment where such vacillation on a matter of such importance would be tolerated by a board of directors” added Breetzke.

    SACA President Omphile Ramela added; “CSA desperately needs to regain the confidence of the players, public, broadcasters and sponsors, particularly with respect to matters of governance – its failure to bring this matter to a conclusion undermines its efforts in this regard.”


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    CSA has noted the concerns of our stakeholders regarding the delays in the conclusion of all the disciplinary matters. This situation is regrettable, and CSA would like to assure all cricket stakeholders of our uppermost intention to ensure absolute transparency on the related forensic outcomes once all of the related processes have been concluded.

    Further to this, CSA would like to make it clear that the forensic auditors are currently finalizing the forensic report and once the auditors have tabled the report directly to the Board, CSA commits to sharing the findings of the report, in line with Board approval.


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    SA cricket planning to restart with made-for-TV event in Centurion

    Cricket in South Africa is set to resume following the coronavirus lockdown on 27 June with a made-for-television event featuring three teams made up of the country's leading players.

    Acting Cricket South Africa (CSA) chief executive Jacques Faul told The Citizen newspaper that government approval had been sought for an event to be played without spectators at SuperSport Park in Centurion.

    Faul said an experimental format would be used. It will be an opportunity for players to get together after being in lockdown since March and to provide match practice ahead of possible series against the West Indies and India in late July and August.

    The players would assemble three days earlier in what CSA's medical officer, Dr Shuaib Manjra, described as a "sanitised eco-system", with all players being tested for Covid-19 when they arrived and again five days after the event.

    "We're looking at the minimum number of people being there for the event to happen and be broadcast, which is about 200," said Manjra.

    "We will limit the number of team staff, otherwise it will just be the broadcast personnel, officials, players and stadium staff. There will also be thorough cleaning of the stadium beforehand."

    Sports minister Nathi Mthethwa announced on 30 May that professional sports could resume training, subject to government approval but a court ruling that lockdown regulations are unconstitutional complicated sport's return, with new regulations needing to be gazetted.

    Faul said he was confident that the legal issues could be overcome.

    "Hopefully we'll be playing again at the end of June and we'll start with the Proteas players, for obvious reasons," he said.

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    The Board of Cricket South Africa (CSA) met last night to deliberate on the events which unfolded at the Head Office of CSA today when the suspended Chief Executive Officer, Mr. Thabang Moroe, purported to report for duty.

    The Board wishes to clarify that the Chief Executive Officer was suspended in December 2019 pending the outcome of an independent forensic investigation into management practices at Cricket South Africa. The letter of suspension issued to the Chief Executive Officer explicitly stated that he was suspended until the conclusion of the independent forensic investigation. This investigation is not yet complete and therefore the Chief Executive Officer remains suspended and any assertion that his suspension was for a pre-determined period is without basis.

    The forensic investigators have indicated that their report is imminent.

    Once the Board receives the report, the Board will study the report and if disciplinary action against the Chief Executive Officer (or anyone else) is required to be taken, the Board will move swiftly to institute such disciplinary action so that the matter will be resolved as soon as possible.

    This remains a matter of utmost concern to the Board. The Board wishes to assure all stakeholders and the public that this matter is receiving all the attention it deserves. However, the Board is also at pains to ensure that due process is followed at all times.

    The Board is confident that the investigation is coming to a head and there will be more clarity and certainty provided before the end of June.


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    Director of Cricket, Graeme Smith, has reiterated his commitment to Cricket South Africa (CSA) and also moved to clarify some of the recent questions that had been raised about his appointment.

    Addressing the media during a specially arranged Tele-press Conference on Saturday, the former Proteas captain spoke on a wide range of subjects that have been brought to light by the public and the media in recent weeks.

    “If you look at some of the things which are being said around appointments, my appointment and the appointment of my staff, I think some of those things are extremely unfair,” Smith said. “It was good to see the President (Chris Nenzani) put that straight with his most recent comments. But I have to come back to my value system and why I got involved in this job.

    “Cricket South Africa courted me for a while, I went through the same interview process as everybody else in getting the job. I got involved because I have got cricket at heart and to be part of the solution. I want to help create a strong Cricket South Africa.”

    Apart from Smith himself, there have also been murmurings about his long-time international team-mate Mark Boucher’s position as Head Coach of the Proteas. The legendary wicketkeeper was amongst the DoC’s first appointments, along with the rest of the senior staff of the national team.

    “I think the narrative is really unfair,” Smith lamented. “I was appointed by a really vigorous process and didn’t go and appoint myself. I’ve made it clear why I got involved.

    “I made a number of appointments in December, not only Mark Boucher. I brought in permanent staff like the team manager Volvo (Masubelele), Justin Ontong, Charl Langeveldt, Enoch Nkwe and the medical staff.

    “The appointment of Paul Harris was around Keshav Maharaj requesting to work with him for one series. Jacques Kallis hasn’t been on the payroll of Cricket South Africa for many months, he worked on an interim basis and it is important to clarify that those appointments were not permanent.”

    Smith also shared his thoughts on the recently approved Cricket for Social Justice and Nation Building (SJN) Concept proposed by the CSA Transformation Committee and approved by the Board, which stemmed from the discussions generated by the global Black Lives Matter (BLM) movement.

    Proteas fast bowler Lungisani Ngidi took the lead on the BLM campaign, with subsequent events triggering many allegations of racial discrimination in cricket from former players such as Makhaya Ntini.

    “I fully support the Social Justice programme,” Smith added. “I think the initial thing is to listen internally within the current Proteas set-up and, in the build-up to the Solidarity Cup, that’s exactly what happened.

    “A number of things have been surprising that have come out. I think the most important thing going forward from a culture perspective is to create a better environment.

    “What surprised me the most is that there were players in the past that never felt they had a voice or could feel comfortable enough to communicate. Part of my role and that of my department’s role is we’re going to have a very big influence on how things move forward.

    “I have engaged with a few players that are involved in the group of 40 and will look to engage more. I’m looking forward to getting involved in the process at the appropriate time.”


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    CAPE TOWN, Aug 1 (Reuters) - South Africa’s director of cricket Graeme Smith does not expect the national team to be back in action until November at the earliest and confirmed the scheduled tour of West Indies has been postponed indefinitely.

    Cricket West Indies chief executive Johnny Grave said last week they were hopeful of hosting South Africa in September for either two tests or five T20 internationals, but Smith has made clear that will not happen.

    “The West Indies tour has been postponed indefinitely,” he told reporters on Saturday. “We are struggling to find the time with the Indian Premier League, when our players are likely to be needed from the beginning of September.

    “In terms of when we will get back onto the field, we are probably looking at November onwards. And if all goes well, it will then be a very busy period for South African cricket, playing series at times when we don’t usually play.

    “It will be a case of trying to cram in all the tours that have been missed.”

    South Africa cut short a One-Day International series in India in March due to the COVID-19 pandemic, and have also been forced to postpone a tour to Sri Lanka, as well as their engagement with West Indies.

    Smith said the lack of cricket is a financial time bomb for the country, who have also lost their major sponsor in the last few months.

    “Financially we are in a lot of trouble. We need to get our broadcast rights in, support from corporate sponsorship and get the right content (series) in place.”

    South Africa are scheduled to play test matches against Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Australia between January and March next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post

    “The West Indies tour has been postponed indefinitely,” he told reporters on Saturday. “We are struggling to find the time with the Indian Premier League, when our players are likely to be needed from the beginning of September.

    “In terms of when we will get back onto the field, we are probably looking at November onwards. And if all goes well, it will then be a very busy period for South African cricket, playing series at times when we don’t usually play.

    “Financially we are in a lot of trouble. We need to get our broadcast rights in, support from corporate sponsorship and get the right content (series) in place.”
    I dont have issues with IPL, I have issues with it making everything related to international cricket stand still.

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    CAPE TOWN, Aug 1 (Reuters) - South Africa’s director of cricket Graeme Smith does not expect the national team to be back in action until November at the earliest and confirmed the scheduled tour of West Indies has been postponed indefinitely.

    Cricket West Indies chief executive Johnny Grave said last week they were hopeful of hosting South Africa in September for either two tests or five T20 internationals, but Smith has made clear that will not happen.

    “The West Indies tour has been postponed indefinitely,” he told reporters on Saturday. “We are struggling to find the time with the Indian Premier League, when our players are likely to be needed from the beginning of September.

    “In terms of when we will get back onto the field, we are probably looking at November onwards. And if all goes well, it will then be a very busy period for South African cricket, playing series at times when we don’t usually play.

    “It will be a case of trying to cram in all the tours that have been missed.”

    South Africa cut short a One-Day International series in India in March due to the COVID-19 pandemic, and have also been forced to postpone a tour to Sri Lanka, as well as their engagement with West Indies.

    Smith said the lack of cricket is a financial time bomb for the country, who have also lost their major sponsor in the last few months.

    “Financially we are in a lot of trouble. We need to get our broadcast rights in, support from corporate sponsorship and get the right content (series) in place.”

    South Africa are scheduled to play test matches against Pakistan, Sri Lanka and Australia between January and March next year.

    https://af.reuters.com/article/south.../idAFL8N2F303F
    What about Pakistan tour of South Africa in Oct?

    That is cancelled as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shah_1 View Post
    What about Pakistan tour of South Africa in Oct?

    That is cancelled as well?
    Could be brought forward, maybe.


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    Cricket South Africa (CSA) director of cricket (DOC) Graeme Smith on Saturday pointed to a "cancer" within the senior structures of the organisation, highlighting what he believes are "internal agendas" that have sought to discredit him and the organisation itself.

    Smith, who joined as DOC in December last year following the suspension of CEO Thabang Moroe, and during a tumultuous period for the organisation, has since signed a two-year deal in that role with the option to extend for a third.

    But recent events and media reports, Smith says, have contributed to the current climate, "raising question marks over whether you can achieve in this role and be successful in it".

    "I think it's been a cancer from within the organisation for a while and it's not getting any better," he said when asked to expand on the internal agendas and false media leaks he believed were at play.

    "You try and sit and work out who in senior positions in this organisation is doing this, and why? What is the end goal? Is it serving cricket? It's quite clearly someone in a high-profile position, whether it is in the business part or the board part, because some of the stuff being leaked can only be from those parties within the organisation and that's disappointing.

    "It doesn't help cricket, it doesn't help us build relations, it doesn't help us put our right foot forward.

    "We're an organisation that spends all our time talking about these other things instead of the game of cricket.

    "It certainly does feel that there are people within these positions that have ulterior motives."

    When contacted by Sport24 on Saturday, CSA president Chris Nenzani said he was aware of Smith's concerns and acknowledged that the issue of agendas and certain individuals leaking information to the media had been problematic for some time.

    He said that internal action was being taken.

    "This has been a problem within the organisation for a period of time - around 18 months - and it has affected a lot of people," he said.

    "I have previously raised my own unhappiness on this issue with the board."

    With the Black Lives Matter (BLM) movement having sparked significant developments in South African cricket, where black coaches and players have united to voice their collective views on systemic racism that they believe has long existed in the game, the last few weeks have been an emotional period for cricket.

    On Sunday, a group of 40 former black players and coaches met with CSA to discuss these issues and the organisation has also launched its Cricket for Social Justice and Nation Building (SJN) project, which it says "aims to eradicate any racism, discrimination or feelings of exclusion from cricket."

    On Wednesday, CSA released a statement after that meeting saying that members of the group of 40 players had expressed disappointment at the fact that Smith himself was not present at the meeting.

    'It doesn't affect me at all'

    Smith has also been the subject of media reports highlighting concerns over the process of his own appointment at CSA, while his decision to appoint Mark Boucher as full-time coach has also received criticism.

    Both of those issues have since been cleared up by Nenzani, who told Sport24 that the CSA board had instructed Smith not to attend Sunday's meeting, while Nenzani also confirmed that both Smith and Boucher's appointments had followed the correct process.

    There was also previously a document in circulation - its origins are still not known - claiming that Boucher was a shareholder in CSA's 3TC product which saw the Solidarity Cup hosted at Centurion last month.

    That has since been proved inaccurate by CSA and its acting CEO Jacques Faul, who said the organisation would be exploring legal options in an effort to determine the source of that leaked document.

    Smith has also been on the receiving end of some heated reaction to former speedster Makhaya Ntini's recent comments that, during his Proteas playing days, he often felt lonely and isolated in the team under Smith.

    The uncertainty in South African cricket is amplified by the fact that Moroe's disciplinary process is still not complete, nearly nine months later, while an AGM in September will present an opportunity for what is largely considered to be a problematic board to change shape.

    Faul, too, is expected to step away from his post on 15 September and, if the Moroe process is not wrapped up by then, CSA might have to appoint another acting CEO.

    Smith, though, says he is not impacted by Faul's departure.

    "It doesn't affect me at all," he said.

    "It doesn't affect why I got involved, and that's to put cricket straight and try improve CSA as an organisation. That's why I got involved in December in the middle of all the chaos back then.

    "My commitment is still there to want to move forward in South African cricket and to move forward with whoever the leadership is going to be post-Jacques and at board level."

    'Good people'

    Smith added that he would have no problem working with Moroe and says he is committed to taking forward the work of the SJC and transformation committee, but his issues presently are what he considers to be an unconstructive relationship with certain sectors of the organisation.

    "Hopefully CSA will involve us in that process now," he said of the plans for the SJC.

    "We were meant to be in that first meeting and the board asked us to not be a part of it. Going forward, I would like the opportunity to engage and be part of the solution."

    Smith added that he had been moved by the amount of good work being done by "good people" at CSA, but he could not understand the motives of those who were driven by agendas that were not for the betterment of cricket.

    "Referring to some of the articles around appointments and my appointments and of the staff, I think those are extremely unfair and it was good to see the president put that straight in an article this morning," Smith said.

    "I feel that there is a slight agenda with some things that are being said.

    "Internally, with these leaked documents and trying to create some stories out in the media, I do feel that there is a plan at play at times.

    "It's sad, because at the end the only thing that suffers is our game and the future of our game.

    "The people within the organisation that have ulterior motives, hopefully that will come to the fore and they will be found out, but I have been as surprised by the number of good people within CSA that only want good for the game and are prepared to work for it.

    "I feel that is sometimes overshadowed by the stuff that's going on."

    'I didn't appoint myself'

    Smith also opened up on the process of his DOC appointment.

    "I was appointed after a really vigorous process, with mainly black African people in my interviews, and after a number of conversations with the president. I didn't appoint myself. That was handled by CSA," Smith said on Saturday.

    "I made a number of appointments in December, not only Mark Boucher. I brought in permanent staff like the team manager Volvo (Masubelele), Justin Ontong, Charl Langeveldt, Enoch Nkwe and the medical staff.

    "The appointment of Paul Harris was around Keshav Maharaj requesting to work with him for one series. Jacques Kallis hasn’t been on the payroll of CSA for many months. He worked on an interim basis and it is important to clarify that those appointments were not permanent.

    "Some of these guys that have gripes were approached and were spoken to ... I think a balanced approach to these things is always key."

    Smith acknowledged that, at times in recent weeks, he had thought about his future.

    "I do feel at the moment that there is an element pulling me in a lot of different directions. There are a lot of internal agendas at play and I would like to try and align some of this stuff going forward, particularly from a cricket perspective," he said.

    "When times are tough, you do ask yourself a lot of questions. I can tell you that life was a lot simpler as a broadcaster.

    "When I got involved in December, it was absolute chaos in South African cricket. There was zero trust with anyone within the organisation, but my value system was that I got involved with cricket at heart.

    'It's feeling chaotic again'

    "I feel I can add value to the game and be part of the solution working with CSA and the players in getting us to perform on the field again, in helping the organisation financially and to bring my relationships and thinking and share that with people. My objective remains the same; I am a cricket person and that's why I got involved.

    "I feel at times that gets messed with because of all the other stuff that is going on."

    Before taking on the DOC position, Smith had been comfortable in his role as a commentator and broadcaster, but his 11 years as Proteas captain - considered to be the best the country has ever produced - made him an attractive option for the Proteas and CSA.

    "I don't feel like I'm perfect in this job and that I'm going to get everything right, but my intentions are good... I know that," he said.

    "If there are others who feel that there are better people for this position, then they must tell me. I am by no means hungry to stay in this position for the rest of my life. I've got other opportunities that I enjoy and want to be a part of, but my goal is to hopefully be a part of creating a better CSA."

    Smith added that he had spoken to Ntini - they commentated together at the Solidarity Cup - and that the relationship between the two was "normal."

    "I feel normal with Mackie," said Smith.

    "We had an open discussion; we shared, we listened and there are certainly no hard feelings at all. He shared some stuff with me and I shared stuff with him.

    "And that’s what it’s about; being able to hear each other and communicate to find a way forward. I feel like myself and Mackie have certainly done that. There’s certainly no issues between us."

    Smith, for now, remains committed to the cause.

    "It's very easy to get caught in the noise, the chaos around you and the emotion and I keep having to revisit why I got involved," he said.

    "When I joined in December it was chaotic and it's feeling chaotic again."

    https://www.news24.com/sport/cricket...etter-20200801


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    Cricket South Africa (CSA) president Chris Nenzani says it would be imprudent to reduce the Black Lives Matter conversation in cricket to a witch-hunt against particular individuals.

    Nenzani was speaking after details emerged this week of a meeting last Sunday between CSA and 40 former players who had released a statement in support of Lungi Ngidi and the Black Lives Matter movement.

    Some, like Makhaya Ntini, Lonwabo Tsotsobe and Ethy Mbhalati, have since expressed their personal stories of alleged racial discrimination they experienced within the game.

    Former national selector Hussein Manack, who sat in on the meeting, shared some of the chief grievances the 40 still had in an interview with Sport24 on Friday.

    Manack, who himself applied unsuccessfully for the Director of Cricket (DOC) role, having been interviewed for the post in 2019, highlighted a range of concerns, with one of the more serious allegations that correct corporate governance guidelines had not been followed in the appointment of Graeme Smith as DOC last December.

    The appointment of Proteas head coach Mark Boucher, Manack added, also needed to be explained.

    Nenzani, however, confirmed to Sport24 on Friday night that there was an extensive interview process that led to Smith's appointment that was ratified by the board's human resources and remuneration committees.

    Thereafter, Smith was tasked with appointing Ottis Gibson's permanent successor as head coach.

    "There's a false perception that these appointments happened at the same time but they didn't," said Nenzani.

    "The appointments he (Smith) made were endorsed by the board. If you look at the urgency of the situation at the time, we needed to have a management team in place. And we wanted to give the Director of Cricket a handle on that appointment.

    "We needed a coach for the summer series against England, which we did (Boucher), and that was endorsed by the board."

    Manack had also said that the absence of Smith from Sunday's meeting was of concern.

    But Nenzani said it was the board who took the decision to meet the 40 former players and coaches without its director of cricket present.

    "Graeme didn't run away from the meeting," Nenzani told Sport24.

    "As a board, we were meeting those who wrote a letter and signed a statement. Graeme's name wasn't mentioned in that statement, so our first act was to listen to the concerns they expressed.

    "We needed to figure out how the things raised were going to be taken forward. We've heeded their call to take action but this was only the first meeting.

    "We were letting them know that we have heard them and this is what we are doing. We didn't get into substantive details or ask each individual about their experience within the game.

    "We spoke broadly about the process, which involves the appointment of an ombudsman, who will be able to get into those individual experiences. Those people who felt aggrieved and those said to have committed any act - be it selectors, captains or coaches - will come and answer for themselves at the ombudsman's office.

    "That will be the process and it will be fair."

    Manack told Sport24 that the group raised concerns about alleged pay discrepancies between members of the coaching consultants within the Proteas technical staff at their Sunday meeting.

    Nenzani, however, would not be drawn to comment on those allegations. He added, though, that there were a number of grievances raised and that emotions ran high and that a thorough and fair restorative process was needed to resolve grievances.

    "There were many things raised in that meeting," said Nenzani.

    "We agreed that it's not going to be the last meeting. I don't know what his (Manack's) intentions are but I'm not going to be able to comment on his statements.

    "A lot of people vented their anger and their pain. And we said we will take it step-by-step. We did not open the platform for people to push certain agendas. We had an engagement and we are inviting more people to come on board."

    Key to CSA's restorative process was the newly announced Cricket for Social Justice and Nation Building initiative, which included setting up an ombudsman's office where all disaffected former and current players' grievances would be heard, investigated and resolved.

    This office, Nenzani assured, would be well-resourced and would offer as much support to ensure players felt comfortable to share their experiences.

    "We are not saying people must not say things they weren't happy with when they were playing," he said.

    "We are inviting people to be honest. For some it might be difficult because it brings up old wounds and rehashing it will feel like it's happening again.

    "That's why, as part of resourcing the ombudsman, there will be psychosocial support. People can go and speak as much as they want to and be as comfortable as they want while doing so.

    "From there, we will be able to say, 'how do we make sure cricket unites?' It cannot be a witch-hunt. The important thing is to root out discrimination in cricket."

    https://www.news24.com/sport/cricket...-hunt-20200801


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