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7th December 2019, 16:06 #1
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Fawad Alam will surprise everyone!
I'm no Fawad fan.
He has the ugliest stance in the history of the game.
But,
He comes across as someone you can rely on to not get out early.
To score.
Specially when there's no pressure to score runs. He might be a failure in ODIs and T20s, but looks like he has finally been rewarded for the right format.
Tests. First Class.
He might just become our next rescue and reliability machine, at least in Asia.
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7th December 2019, 16:10 #2
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Which is exactly what you don’t need.
The batting Top Six already includes four guys in their thirties. None of whom average 40 these last two years.
And now you have recalled an even older one.
Wasim Khan should have given him clear Performance Indicators: to introduce a guy in his thirties you need to permanently retire two more of them.Last edited by Junaids; 7th December 2019 at 16:11.
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7th December 2019, 16:12 #3
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We know about your stance of not selecting anyone in their 30s, but it's been debunked quite a few times. Regardless, you have your opinion.
PPers love Fawad Alam and the recent poll showed that. I'm of the opinion that the ship has sailed for him, but we need someone reliable in our Test batting order. Everyone keeps failing.
Fawad will be that guy.
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7th December 2019, 16:14 #4He might just become our next rescue and reliability machine, at least in Asia.
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7th December 2019, 16:14 #5
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He has got 2 of the worst bowling attacks in Test cricket coming up to him next year so I wont be surprised at all if he scored bundles of runs.
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7th December 2019, 16:15 #6
This series will show why he was ignored. His technique is not good enough against half a decent pace attack.
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7th December 2019, 16:15 #7
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The batting is not going to be the issue in home tests ( as long as Azhar and Asad hold up and fawad is not replacing them anyway.
Shan Babar haris Rizwan and even imam and abid will score plenty of runs at home. I would rather have invested in some1 who may become a proper runs player abroad too.
I'm ok with the selection as he deserved a go ages ago
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7th December 2019, 16:16 #8
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7th December 2019, 16:17 #9
Fawad Alam's stats in recent QEA seasons:
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672 runs (average 56) in 2015-16
499 runs (average 55.44) in 2016-17
570 runs (average 40.71) in 2017-18
699 runs (average 69.90) in 2018-19
781 runs (average 71) in the ongoing season#Cricket
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7th December 2019, 16:17 #10
Chief selector and head coach Misbah-ul-Haq said: “I want to congratulate Fawad Alam on his selection for the Sri Lanka Tests. It is a reward for his continued hard work, perseverance and dedication to the game. His selection is not only a lesson to the emerging cricketers but also a testament of the selectors’ policy of valuing domestic cricket and rewarding consistent performers."
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7th December 2019, 16:18 #11
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7th December 2019, 16:22 #12
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We wouldn't have seen this thread if he was selected by anyone else. In fact it would have been the total opposite.
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7th December 2019, 16:22 #13
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Haris and Babar have been our best bats.
I'm not interested in Shan's historical record. I'm talking 2019 Shan ( we can argue about this one in a couple of weeks ;) )
Imam ha played 7 matches in SENA , so it's now or never for him.
Again let's see. Though I think Azhar will open to accommodate fawad at 6
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7th December 2019, 16:22 #14
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7th December 2019, 16:37 #15
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7th December 2019, 16:44 #16
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7th December 2019, 16:51 #17
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7th December 2019, 17:09 #18
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7th December 2019, 17:09 #19
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Haris needs to be sacked
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7th December 2019, 17:11 #20
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7th December 2019, 17:14 #21
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Show me the stats which show them performing to the level Fawad Alam has been. Fawad has averaged more than 50 for 4 of the last five seasons. Kamran Akmal and Salman Butt averaged barely 40 in the last season and even less than that in the season before. Do some research before making pointless claims.
Fawad deserves his call up for the level of consistency he shows season in season out. No other player can really match him in Pakistan domestic cricket.
Hopefully he succeeds in international cricket too.
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7th December 2019, 17:17 #22
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7th December 2019, 17:23 #23
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7th December 2019, 17:25 #24
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7th December 2019, 17:27 #25
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7th December 2019, 17:28 #26
Fawad is a good example of never giving up, an inspiration for everyone out there
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7th December 2019, 17:34 #27
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7th December 2019, 17:38 #28
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7th December 2019, 17:45 #30
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7th December 2019, 17:46 #31
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7th December 2019, 17:46 #32
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What tournaments are you talking about? The final for this season hasn't been played yet and he didn't play in the QEA final in 2018/19 season. He did play the season before and failed miserably scoring 24 and 4 in his two innings. He just plays in stronger teams than Fawad. He has very little to do with his team winning. He's just a corrupt individual who deserves never to play for Pakistan again on form or character!
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7th December 2019, 17:49 #33
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The uncomfortable truth for OP (and his fellow cheerleaders) is to acknowledge that Pakistan Test Cricket would have been in a better place if Fawad had replaced Misbah from 2013, following the embarrassing tour of Zimbabwe.
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7th December 2019, 17:51 #34
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7th December 2019, 18:21 #37
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Most of the Indian players are in the early 30s and all of them made their debuts when they were younger and now that's why India is such a formidable unit but in Pakistan, you have players making debut and comebacks at 35. The weakest link in the Indian team is Saha and who is by far the weakest link in the team
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7th December 2019, 18:31 #38
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I guess someone forgot to tell Australia that recalling and giving debuts to over 30s is "shameful" and shouldn't happen. What were they thinking when they decided to call up Mike Hussey and Chris Rogers when they were clearly passed it.... God knows how they managed to score any runs as over 30 cricketing "pensioners"!
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7th December 2019, 18:52 #39
Fawad Alam will do well at home and provide comic relief in England
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7th December 2019, 18:55 #40
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7th December 2019, 19:00 #41
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7th December 2019, 19:02 #43
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I'm not a big fan of Fawad Alam's batting due to his ridiculous stance and technique but solute to him for the temperament he has shown over the years. Has been piling up runs in every game he has played and selectors after selectors have been ignoring him without any clear explanation but a great credit goes to Fawad as he has never shown any frustration any never said any thing in anger, which would have been very hard for him. In this perspective, he is a role model for other cricketers. Good luck to him, hope he will prove his point by scoring big in tests.
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7th December 2019, 19:21 #44
The question isn't whether Fawad will have a successful comeback and makes big runs.
The question is why wasn't he recalled 5-6 year earlier when he should deservedly have been given a chance in the longer format.
Who will answer for those lost years?
#MPGA
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7th December 2019, 19:22 #45
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7th December 2019, 19:25 #46
You seem to back almost every decision Misbah takes, even if it requires to take U-TURNs on your previous stances
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7th December 2019, 19:46 #47
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Deserves his chance but I am not convinced about his technique. Let's see how it goes.
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7th December 2019, 19:52 #48
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Despite not many tests, he will be considered as a senior. That is the downside of entering late in your career. You will have no comebacks. You just have to maintain your form. It is a bit like Ishant recently said something along the lines "one bad performance can end my career". He won't have too many chances. He will have to make it count.
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7th December 2019, 19:57 #49
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7th December 2019, 20:07 #50
He should never have been dropped from Test cricket, it was a huge injustice.
Bringing him in now though is a questionable decision. He'll most likely do well in the sub continent, he may do decently in England as well been but he has only a couple of years to offer. No proper team will bring in a 34 year old to establish himself at test level because because in a couple of years he will be at an age when most international cricketers start retiring or start getting phased out of the team. Fawad's selection is the very embodiment of desperate measures being taken in desperate times.
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7th December 2019, 20:27 #51
Really hope he plays. Will be annoyed if he doesn't.
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7th December 2019, 20:31 #52
99% convinced Fawad will flop badly in the SL series because he probably won't be able to cope up with the pressure as all eyes will be on him.
Having said that, even if he flops, Misbah now needs to back his selection and give him a run in the team for atleast 1 year. Can't just chuck him out now for 1 or 2 bad series.
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7th December 2019, 20:31 #53
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I don't think Fawad doing well will surprise anyone - most people expect him to have a good series, we know he's capable
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7th December 2019, 20:49 #54
What people forget to notice is that he scored runs on bowler friendly wickets in Pakistan for the last few years very consistently..you just have to look at some of the stats of these very average bowlers to realise they had these green tops everywhere & the only guys to score runs consistently were either stubborn players (Fawad) or attacking (Kamran Akmal) guys , if Misbah is gutsy then he must get rid of Azhar & Shafiq now
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7th December 2019, 20:50 #55
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7th December 2019, 21:23 #56
The difference being I would say that about fawad regardless of who coaches.
I don’t fault his selection, but I hope we can put an end to this by the end of the England tour. I am perfectly comfortable with this being thrown in my face should he go on to make big runs in England
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7th December 2019, 21:25 #57
Hope Fawad scores big runs, and rubs it in previous selectors faces.
Does cricket survive off of it's money or does it survive for it's money?
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7th December 2019, 21:33 #58
Warner has runs abroad or has the capability and is a natural stroke maker needed as an opener. Fawad Alam is different. He has no pull shot with that technique and is always playing away from the body on the off side. Then he will be challenged with short pitch bowling. On Pakistani pitches ball does not rise much as well as we lack bowling resources as we have seen evident from Aus series where our top bowlers were likes of Abbas and Imran. I checked top bowlers this fc and I found the likes of Tabish, Sohail Khan, Anwar Ali type bowlers leading the chart. None of them is a quality bowler. If they really were we wouldn't be seeing Ifti chacha struggling against Aussies on almost glat pitches because he got selected after performing in domestic cricket.
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7th December 2019, 21:55 #59
i am more worried than happy with his inclusion. He is a good batter no doubt, but he'll be under immense pressure coz of the hype created by the fans and media. I wont be surprised if he crumble under pressure and fail to do anything of note in this series and then will be discarded again..
Last edited by MoJoJoJo; 7th December 2019 at 21:56.
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8th December 2019, 01:11 #61
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Good series to make a comeback.
Home pitches.
Home crowd.
Oppostion attack which isn't too strong.
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8th December 2019, 01:39 #62
I don't trust his technique. He declined in recent seasons as well. At 34 he is no long term solution. He maybe able to do something in Asia but he will be exposed outside of Asia.
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8th December 2019, 06:01 #63
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Should have been in the test side at least 4 years ago. At this point, whether or not Pakistan make the WTC final (which I highly doubt), I predict Fawad can rack up the runs in this cycle at best. I'll be surprised if he can maintain it for 2 cycles.
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8th December 2019, 06:04 #64
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Sarfi as captain'll lead us to glory.Babar'll be our best odi bat & Haris'll be world class in tests
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8th December 2019, 06:27 #65
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8th December 2019, 06:38 #66
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Kamran Akmal dropped a gazillion catches, at crucial moments, cost us multiple important games. Butt, there is no vacancy (and no strong desire) at the top of the order. Imam, Abid, Fakhar, Masood have been occupying those spots ahead of him so far and I am ok with that. Anyway, I think the nation still hasn’t forgiven him.
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8th December 2019, 06:54 #67
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8th December 2019, 16:51 #68
To be honest, the pressure to perform will be huge and real test of his character.
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8th December 2019, 17:10 #69
So Misbah who was always consulted as a captain never asked for his selection selects him when he's near mid-thirties...way to go Misbah!
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8th December 2019, 17:36 #70
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To be honest, Fawad Alam was dropped in 2014 by the PCB mafia to help parasite Shoaib Malik make comeback into the national side. And captain was the joker Azhar Ali who hiself was kept but the dagger kept fallinon others who were blamed for his lacklustre and demoralizing captaincy.
Alam was averaging 42 in ODIs and 40 in Tests. He was removed from test side after NZ tour to make way for Azhar Ali and Umar Akmal in 2009.
PCB mafia made by undemocratic adhoc setup and strengthened in Zaka Ashraf and Sethi era ensured Alam never plays for Pakistan again.
This is not surprising, it happened to Qasim Umar, Saleem Yousuf, Asif Mujtaba, and Asim Kamal.
Pakistan team was so strong in 1986 probably the best batting side ever. It chased 273 against Australia in Australia at taht time when it was like 300+ of that era. After that Imran Khan started favoritism and result was we lost talent like Qasim Umar and Saleem Yousuf.
Asif Mujtaba was another man of the crisis who used to bat in lower order. He single-handedly chased 220 target against Australia in 1992.
Wasim, Inzamam and then Haroon Rasheed did the same to many players, with encouragement from a disinterested and weak chairmen esp. Shahryar Khan the terrible.
Faisal Athar (Hyderabad), Aamir Bashir(Multan;died in 2008), so many deserving performers were lost thanks to these mafias' biases.
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19th December 2019, 15:57 #71
I have little love for Fawad, but he is extremely unfortunate to miss out on this Test because of the arrogance of Misbah.
He is making a comeback in Test cricket after 10 years and you deprive him of the opportunity to play in his home ground, especially when Haris cannot hold a bat at the moment.
The less said about puppet Azhar the better. He has as much of a say in the team selection as I do.
Everyone knew that Misbah does not have the caliber to do just justice to this dual selector/coach role, but what has surprised me is his arrogance especially in the pressers.
He never gives a straight answer. After the humiliation against Sri Lanka in the T20s, he moaned that he didn’t make the right handed batsmen play left handed and vice versa.
When he was questioned on his team selection the other day, he stated that he would request Sri Lanka to allow him to play 15 players.
He has been cranky and sarcastic. A far cry from the “gentleman” image that he conjured over the years.
He has been given too much power by the spectacularly incompetent Wasim Khan and his head is in the clouds these days. He is basically a dictator intoxicated with power.
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19th December 2019, 16:09 #72
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This is what happens when you put a no body on a pedestal. There is a punjabi saying. " thore vich bohtaa pa gaya".
It captures misbah perfectly. An avg batsman who had an above avg career.
Now he has become arrogant, he thinks we need him when the reality is that no one needs his low cricket iq.
This same guy hampered pakistan cricket for a decade. He brought in a losers mentality, instilled that into the players and now we a reaping the "benefits" lol
Now all he can do is divert peoples attention from the subject at hand.
Less said about azhar the better, he is the definition of a BETA male. He doesnt dominate, he likes to be dominated.
Misbah was never a gentleman, the media has created this image. He was always a cranky old man. Hes just showing his true COLORS.
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19th December 2019, 16:14 #73
I, for one, am definitely surprised. Not sure about everyone else
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Are u telling me fawad can't get into this team?
Where is the logic? That is why Pakistan cricket is where it is at right now..
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19th December 2019, 16:44 #75
So another 6 months gone for him. What a sad story.
So basically anyone but fawad alam.
It is either a heartache or a headache ..Argh relationships.
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19th December 2019, 17:44 #76
I hope Misbah, Wasim and other management stay for 2 more years. It's not a good sight if you give a chance to a performer. Only way forward is to have likeness, dislikeness, and TTFs.
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19th December 2019, 18:41 #77
I think Fawad Alam should sue the PCB for lost earnings from the past 10 yesrs
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19th December 2019, 18:45 #78
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Fawad has definitely been unlucky but no batsman ( apart from shan) was realistically going to be dropped from this test. Also even tho Haaris maybe out of form he has done well in the UAE so it would be expected he would do well in Pakistan too.
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19th December 2019, 19:03 #79
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Genius Misbah.
Worst at talent management.
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19th December 2019, 19:39 #80
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I agree, there was no obvious batsmen to drop, but this is where good coaches step up and take risks - you need to take risks if a #8 ranked team is going to upset a higher ranked team.
Fawad's fantastic form and the poor run Haris has had would have warranted such a risk. Like you said, Shan is probably an even more obvious candidate