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    "A very exciting time when I look at the fast-bowling talent currently available" : Waqar Younis

    Former Pakistan fast-bowling great Waqar Younis was appointed as Pakistan Bowling Coach in September on a 3-year contract and has so far overseen the bowling performances of the national side in series against Sri Lanka and Australia.

    In an exclusive interview with PakPassion.net, Waqar spoke on a variety of topics including why he returned to work for the PCB, Misbah-ul-Haq's current roles within the PCB, the development of young fast-bowlers, why he feels itís an exciting time for pace-bowling in Pakistan, his hopes that the likes of Hassan Ali and Faheem Ashraf will regain form and confidence, offered his views on the reluctance of Bangladesh to tour Pakistan



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    PakPassion.net: What is the motivation behind your return to Pakistan cricket as Bowling Coach?

    Waqar Younis: Throughout my career I have had a passion for cricket and a love for the game. I get more satisfaction when I am actively involved with the team and trying to help the players to learn about cricket. There is nothing to be embarrassed about the fact that I was the Head Coach and now I am the Bowling Coach, and everyone has to understand that. If I can be useful to Pakistan cricket then there should be no shame in wanting to teach players and guiding guys who are young and if you can do it and you have the passion to do it, then one should go ahead and do it. I have some clear ideas on what I want to achieve in this role. I have done the Head Coach role in the past, but I am really enjoying the current role as there is less pressure and there isnít the pressure of the media on me.


    PakPassion.net: Whatís the biggest appeal of the role of Pakistan Bowling Coach?

    Waqar Younis: It has to be the chance to work with some excellent young fast-bowlers. Who wouldnít want to work with Naseem Shah, Shaheen Shah Afridi, Mohammad Hasnain and some of the more established bowlers like Hassan Ali and Faheem Ashraf? Iíve got a bunch of guys who I feel can be a force. If you look around the world, the most successful teams are the ones who have a group of pace-bowlers across all formats and who have specialists across all three formats. I feel that if I can help these youngsters and guide them then that will be satisfying for me, the Board and will be of benefit to these young bowlers.


    PakPassion.net: Misbah-ul-Haq certainly seems to have a lot on his plate. What are your thoughts on him having several roles within Pakistan cricket?

    Waqar Younis: Heís got a tough gig, thatís for sure. Having just the Head Coach role on its own is not an easy job, especially given all the scrutiny around the role and all of the media interest, as well as the YouTubers we have these days. Itís a very difficult task and itís not easy to cope with all of the pressure that comes with it. On top of that you have the selector role around the country and at various levels and on top of that the Pakistan Super League coaching role. Heís had a really tough first 4 months in the role, but I am sure heís breathing a lot easier after the Sri Lanka Test series victory and things seem to be a lot better. He is growing into the various roles and I am helping him with that regard as much as I can. It will not be easy, but itís something the new Pakistan Cricket Board regime is trying and are going to give it a go and I am sure that Wasim Khan and the PCB are keeping an eye on things and assessing whether itís the right move or not. We have to understand that this change is on a trial basis and if you look at the First-Class structure too, there will be some concerns from some quarters. These concerns will centre around coaching, the selections and the actual structure. Undoubtedly, this new structure is very different but we have to give it a chance and we all have to give it a few years and persist with it and hope that the 6-team format will work and provide Pakistan with the players that it needs.


    PakPassion.net: With all of the fast-bowling talent coming through in Pakistan, it must be an exciting time to be working with them?

    Waqar Younis: Yes that is 100% true. Pakistan has always been blessed with good fast-bowlers and we have always had someone there to give us hope in the pace-bowling department. However, my concern and issue is that because there are three formats nowadays and there are a lot of Twenty20 Leagues around the world, itís very difficult even for the youngest cricketers to focus just on one format and just focus on international cricket. Itís really difficult to deprive cricketers from earning a good living from Twenty20 Leagues as thatís what they are entitled to do and that is their bread and butter. Itís a very exciting time when I look at the fast-bowling talent currently available, but I have spoken to the Pakistan Cricket Board about looking after the financial side of things for the players, so that they can focus on and prioritise playing for Pakistan rather than various league around the world. Iím excited to work with these boys and help them grow as cricketers and at the same time itís a chance for me to grow as a Coach as well.


    PakPassion.net: What do you say about priorities for example to Shaheen Shah Afridi, a young pace-bowler playing all three formats for Pakistan and who is in demand in County cricket and Leagues around the globe?

    Waqar Younis: Itís tough isnít it as you donít want to deprive him from earning a living. But in order to motivate them, my first words to all of our bowlers is that your country and playing Test cricket for Pakistan always comes first, the other formats come next and then playing in Leagues should always come after that. Shaheen is maturing very quickly, he likes to learn and is keen to perform and Iím really pleased with how he is progressing as a bowler. I have spoken with the PCB hierarchy about players finances and managing their workloads as each Test match counts towards the World Test Championship and we have to manage Shaheenís and the other pacers workloads. I am sure the Board is working on this and they will come up with some sort of agreement to help and work with the players.


    PakPassion.net: On the topic of Shaheen Shah Afridi, what areas of improvement are you targeting from him?

    Waqar Younis: Fitness is key for fast-bowlers and that should never be overlooked. This group of pace-bowlers are mainly teenagers and are still growing as men. Fitness is the number one priority and in the last few months Shaheen has worked really hard and thatís why you are seeing him bowling long spells as he was doing in Australia and against Sri Lanka. We are taking care of his recovery time in between matches, as we are with the other pace-bowlers we have. Shaheen is a smart cricketer, and what he needs to do is to put the ball in the right place on a regular basis, not every now and then. Heís learning quickly and what is good is that the competition for places is there and competition amongst fast-bowlers is also there which I feel was lacking in the recent past. This competition amongst themselves on the field is a plus point as the bowlers learn from each other. Shaheen and the other boys can look at the likes of Dale Steyn, James Anderson and Stuart Broad, and take note of the number of years they have been around and how they are still going strong and performing well.


    PakPassion.net: Naseem Shah has had a tough introduction to international cricket. What are your thoughts on this exceptional talent?

    Waqar Younis: Heís a little fragile at the moment which is understandable due to his sad loss. We have to remember that he had a couple of stress-fractures in his back at a young age and he therefore sometimes needs a bit more nurturing and an arm around his shoulder as he does worry about his back at times. So, at the moment we donít want him to be bowling long spells of 7 or 8 overs, we want him bowling short, quick spells and spells which wonít reduce his pace. His pace is crucial for his development and we donít want that to reduce and that is why we are nurturing him carefully. He is another youngster who needs to work on his fitness levels and I am sure once he is fitter and given the skills he possesses, he will trouble a lot of batsmen around the world.


    PakPassion.net: Mohammad Hasnainís introduction to international cricket has been a stop-start affair. What are your thoughts on him as a bowler?

    Waqar Younis: He was picked in the Mickey Arthur regime for the World Cup based upon some good performances at the Pakistan Super League which of course was 4-over cricket. I feel heís a young bowler who is probably not ready for playing in the 50-over format just yet, where he will be required to bowl 10 overs. Heís at the National Cricket Academy these days working on his fitness and heís getting used to bowling more overs as he showed at the ACC Emerging Teams Asia Cup. Heís a young man who can bowl 150Kph and we donít want him to lose that ability. Hasnain is very much in our plans and our aim is to have a pack of pace-bowlers available to us, all of them fit, all of them available and ready. We would like to use them accordingly and based on where we are playing and keep them fresh. Heís a talented kid, who bowls very well with the new ball and we are keeping a close eye on him and no doubt he will be an asset for Pakistan cricket.


    PakPassion.net: Weíve seen Haris Rauf do well at the Big Bash League. How close is he to an international call-up?

    Waqar Younis: I watched him at the Pakistan Super League and was impressed by him. He possesses pace, heís a smart bowler who is aggressive which I really like about him and Iím really glad that he has done well at the Big Bash League. Heís a strong lad, who has been working very hard on his fitness and he bowls a really good slower-ball. Iíve spoken to Misbah-ul-Haq about him and we are thinking about bringing him into our pack of pace-bowlers, working with him and hopefully we can push him into the Pakistan team soon.


    PakPassion.net: How disappointing is it to see senior pace-bowlers, some of whom should be at their peak, giving up Test cricket?

    Waqar Younis: Itís not been received very well by everyone in Pakistan has it. They were sudden retirements just before the tough tour of Australia which made it a very difficult time for us. We were left with and exposed by having a very young bowling attack. It was hurtful at the time and if they wanted to do it, they could have done it in a better way, but coming at that time was not very pleasant at all. They received a lot of criticism, but it was entirely up to them how they wanted to play it. Whether they want to continue playing One-Day cricket or Twenty20 cricket is entirely up to them and if both Wahab and Amir want to continue playing for Pakistan and they are available for their country, then thatís two more bowlers who are part of our group of pace-bowlers.


    PakPassion.net: Faheem Ashraf seems to have lost his way in international cricket. How do you plan to restore his confidence and get him back to his best?

    Waqar Younis: We wanted to have him around for the recent Sri Lanka Test series, but he was injured. We would love to have the luxury of an all-rounder in the Test team who can give us that fourth bowling option, especially when you have a young pace-bowling attack. Look at England with Ben Stokes who is batting at number 5 or 6 and is a complete bowling option. Itís very handy to have someone like Stokes in your Test team with both bat and ball and we are searching for that option. Faheem has been around the squad for a while now and we want to get him fit, to work on his batting too and fill that all-rounderís spot if he can.


    PakPassion.net: Hassan Aliís form and confidence seems to have nose-dived after his heroics in the 2017 Champions Trophy. Where is he going wrong?

    Waqar Younis: There is no doubt about his talent, but he has fallen away of late. He was bowling at a good pace, good lines and bowling a very probing length, but his form has suffered of late. He played a lot of cricket in a 2-year period without much rest. He has lost some pace and of course on top of that he has had some injury problems. He had a back injury, was working at the National Cricket Academy to get back to full fitness and recovered from the back injury. He then went and played in the Quaid-E-Azam Trophy, but then suddenly discovered he had fractured ribs. His bowling action is a very open-chested action which is hard on the ribs and the back. Heís an asset when fit and firing on all cylinders. Heís a bundle of energy on the field, a good fielder and Iím looking forward to having him back. Heís a very handy cricketer and heís at the NCA working on his fitness. Iím expecting him to start bowling in about a weekís time hopefully if there is no pain.


    PakPassion.net: Are there any upcoming pace-bowlers who have impressed you this season in domestic cricket?

    Waqar Younis: The door is open for everyone. Iíll be watching the Pakistan Super League closely and looking out for pace-bowlers who I feel have the potential to play for Pakistan. We have a nice group of pace-bowlers at the moment and I feel we are well-covered for all three formats but there is always room for additional bowlers to be added to our group. Ehsan Adil is one bowler that I am keeping a close eye on and he is someone who has been bowling well this season, can bat and is a handy fielder too. I have already mentioned some of the group of pace-bowlers we have at our disposal and in addition Usman Khan Shinwari is an impressive bowler. What I am trying to do is to have this group of pace-bowlers and to keep a very close eye on this batch and monitor their progress very closely. We are planning to have another camp for pace-bowlers ahead of the series against Bangladesh and that will also give us another opportunity to look at the pace-bowlers.


    PakPassion.net: The Sri Lanka series saw Test cricket make a successful return to Pakistan. What would you say to the Bangladesh Cricket Board who seem to be hesitant about sending their Test team to Pakistan?

    Waqar Younis: Pakistan is a safe place and anyone who is saying itís not a safe place is fooling themselves. Weíve just had an excellent series against Sri Lanka, with some good crowds and a wonderful and hard-fought Test match played in Karachi. People love cricket in Pakistan and what else does any country want us to do to show that it is safe here? The Sri Lankan players were out and about shopping and going out for dinners and they were all very happy in Pakistan. In fact, the players from Sri Lanka who didnít come for the Limited-Overs matches and came for the Test series only, regretted that decision not to come to Pakistan. I donít think the Pakistan Cricket Board, or anyone involved in Pakistan cricket can do any more to prove that Pakistan is a safe place. Itís disappointing to see that so far the Bangladesh Cricket Board is reluctant to tour. Pakistan is a beautiful place, a peaceful place and we are ready for regular Test cricket. Iím still hopeful though that the Bangladesh Cricket Board will make a positive decision regarding the tour. Test cricket should return on a regular basis to Pakistan without any hesitation.


    PakPassion.net: What are your thoughts on the allegations made by Shoaib Akhtar and Danish Kaneria of players refusing to eat with Danish due to his faith?

    Waqar Younis: Danish gave everything for his country and you can see that by just looking at his record in Test cricket. I was in the squad when Danish Kaneria made his debut for Pakistan and captain in his second series. We all welcomed him like a brother, like a son, he was part of our family. I never saw any player or official treating him differently. I was his captain for a couple of years and I never saw or heard any mistreatment of Danish at all by any player. I think this is a non-issue and controversy should not be created out of it as there is nothing in it.


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    Misbah and Younis really owe everyone an explanation as to why Musa Khan was selected ahead of Haris Rauf.

    They also owe a justification as to why he was secretly retained with the squad after he was officially dropped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    We wanted to have him around for the recent Sri Lanka Test series, but he was injured. We would love to have the luxury of an all-rounder in the Test team who can give us that fourth bowling option, especially when you have a young pace-bowling attack. Look at England with Ben Stokes who is batting at number 5 or 6 and is a complete bowling option. It’s very handy to have someone like Stokes in your Test team with both bat and ball and we are searching for that option. Faheem has been around the squad for a while now and we want to get him fit, to work on his batting too and fill that all-rounder’s spot if he can.
    @Junaids. So Pak team is looking for a fifth bowler and wanted to have Faheem Ashraf against Srl but he was injured.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    Misbah and Younis really owe everyone an explanation as to why Musa Khan was selected ahead of Haris Rauf.

    They also owe a justification as to why he was secretly retained with the squad after he was officially dropped.
    I agree, Waqar and Misbah should be accountable for this non-sense you mentioned.

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    Hasnain is 20, and not 15-16 year old. If he cannot bowl 10 overs at 20 years of age, there must be some real fitness issues with him.

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    Very disappointed by the lack of "technical analysis" in this interview . . The questions warranted identification and solutions to technical problems and roadmap for improvement. However this entire interview is extremely high level (birds eye view) without any kinda depth on any bowler . . Head coach can be expected at times to give high level responses but bowling coach is a technical job!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by NauV View Post
    Very disappointed by the lack of "technical analysis" in this interview . . The questions warranted identification and solutions to technical problems and roadmap for improvement. However this entire interview is extremely high level (birds eye view) without any kinda depth on any bowler . . Head coach can be expected at times to give high level responses but bowling coach is a technical job!!
    All he mentioned is fitness, fitness and fitness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moghul View Post
    Hasnain is 20, and not 15-16 year old. If he cannot bowl 10 overs at 20 years of age, there must be some real fitness issues with him.
    I think the problem is that some thought that he could be picked for a World Cup based on the PSL which proved to be totally wrong.



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    Worst interview responses ever !

    PakPassion.net: What is the motivation behind your return to Pakistan cricket as Bowling Coach?[/b]

    Waqar Younis: Throughout my career I have had a passion for cricket and a love for the game. I get more satisfaction when I am actively involved with the team and trying to help the players to learn about cricket. There is nothing to be embarrassed about the fact that I was the Head Coach and now I am the Bowling Coach, and everyone has to understand that. If I can be useful to Pakistan cricket then there should be no shame in wanting to teach players and guiding guys who are young and if you can do it and you have the passion to do it, then one should go ahead and do it. I have some clear ideas on what I want to achieve in this role. I have done the Head Coach role in the past, but I am really enjoying the current role as there is less pressure and there isn’t the pressure of the media on me.
    Do you have any clear ideas why your previous two stints as Head Coach and Bowling Coach went down in flames ? What lessons have you learned about your tactical awareness and man management skills to ensure this latest tenure won't also be a failure ?

    Did you do any coaching in domestic cricket outside PSL or Pakistan to hone your skills ? No you ran back to the comfort of the commentary box.
    PakPassion.net: Misbah-ul-Haq certainly seems to have a lot on his plate. What are your thoughts on him having several roles within Pakistan cricket? [/b]

    Waqar Younis: He’s got a tough gig, that’s for sure. Having just the Head Coach role on its own is not an easy job, especially given all the scrutiny around the role and all of the media interest, as well as the YouTubers we have these days. It’s a very difficult task and it’s not easy to cope with all of the pressure that comes with it. On top of that you have the selector role around the country and at various levels and on top of that the Pakistan Super League coaching role. He’s had a really tough first 4 months in the role, but I am sure he’s breathing a lot easier after the Sri Lanka Test series victory and things seem to be a lot better. He is growing into the various roles and I am helping him with that regard as much as I can. It will not be easy, but it’s something the new Pakistan Cricket Board regime is trying and are going to give it a go and I am sure that Wasim Khan and the PCB are keeping an eye on things and assessing whether it’s the right move or not. We have to understand that this change is on a trial basis and if you look at the First-Class structure too, there will be some concerns from some quarters. These concerns will centre around coaching, the selections and the actual structure. Undoubtedly, this new structure is very different but we have to give it a chance and we all have to give it a few years and persist with it and hope that the 6-team format will work and provide Pakistan with the players that it needs.
    I missed the part where Misbah had a gun to his head where he was forced to accept all these roles.

    PakPassion.net: With all of the fast-bowling talent coming through in Pakistan, it must be an exciting time to be working with them?

    Waqar Younis: Yes that is 100% true. Pakistan has always been blessed with good fast-bowlers and we have always had someone there to give us hope in the pace-bowling department.
    Here we go again with the mythology. Our new ball bowling has been horrendous for the last few years as was laid bare in Australia. We didn't look like taking 10 wickets forget 20. In South Africa last winter, we saw Sri Lanka outbowl our seamers on friendly pitches. For the first time in history, India look to have a superior pace attack than ours in all formats. If we're to improve then we must admit our shortcomings instead of this cliched line "vee hav da best PHAST bowlers !"

    PakPassion.net: What do you say about priorities for example to Shaheen Shah Afridi, a young pace-bowler playing all three formats for Pakistan and who is in demand in County cricket and Leagues around the globe?

    Waqar Younis: It’s tough isn’t it as you don’t want to deprive him from earning a living. But in order to motivate them, my first words to all of our bowlers is that your country and playing Test cricket for Pakistan always comes first, the other formats come next and then playing in Leagues should always come after that. Shaheen is maturing very quickly, he likes to learn and is keen to perform and I’m really pleased with how he is progressing as a bowler. I have spoken with the PCB hierarchy about players finances and managing their workloads as each Test match counts towards the World Test Championship and we have to manage Shaheen’s and the other pacers workloads. I am sure the Board is working on this and they will come up with some sort of agreement to help and work with the players.
    What a hypocrite, what were you and your mate Wasim doing in the 1990s ? You burned yourselves out playing County Cricket and didn't manage your workloads to keep yourself 100% for Pakistan. Instead the lure of the County money was too much.

    PakPassion.net: On the topic of Shaheen Shah Afridi, what areas of improvement are you targeting from him?

    Waqar Younis: Fitness is key for fast-bowlers and that should never be overlooked. This group of pace-bowlers are mainly teenagers and are still growing as men. Fitness is the number one priority and in the last few months Shaheen has worked really hard and that’s why you are seeing him bowling long spells as he was doing in Australia and against Sri Lanka. We are taking care of his recovery time in between matches, as we are with the other pace-bowlers we have. Shaheen is a smart cricketer, and what he needs to do is to put the ball in the right place on a regular basis, not every now and then. He’s learning quickly and what is good is that the competition for places is there and competition amongst fast-bowlers is also there which I feel was lacking in the recent past. This competition amongst themselves on the field is a plus point as the bowlers learn from each other. Shaheen and the other boys can look at the likes of Dale Steyn, James Anderson and Stuart Broad, and take note of the number of years they have been around and how they are still going strong and performing well.
    Vague stuff you'd hear from anyone here sitting behind their computer screens not an experienced international coach and ex-player. Yeah no kidding fast bowlers need to be fit and should look be like Dale Steyn or Jimmy Anderson ! What insight.

    PakPassion.net: Naseem Shah has had a tough introduction to international cricket. What are your thoughts on this exceptional talent?

    Waqar Younis: He’s a little fragile at the moment which is understandable due to his sad loss.
    And that's why you debuted him in Australia of all places days after his mother died to save the skins of yourself and Misbah's. Pathetic management of a young kid.

    PakPassion.net: We’ve seen Haris Rauf do well at the Big Bash League. How close is he to an international call-up?

    Waqar Younis: I watched him at the Pakistan Super League and was impressed by him. He possesses pace, he’s a smart bowler who is aggressive which I really like about him and I’m really glad that he has done well at the Big Bash League. He’s a strong lad, who has been working very hard on his fitness and he bowls a really good slower-ball. I’ve spoken to Misbah-ul-Haq about him and we are thinking about bringing him into our pack of pace-bowlers, working with him and hopefully we can push him into the Pakistan team soon.
    Haris Rauf is an outstanding young talent, that's why I okayed the selections of Musa Khan and 37 year old Mohammed Irfan for Australia instead.

    PakPassion.net: How disappointing is it to see senior pace-bowlers, some of whom should be at their peak, giving up Test cricket?

    Waqar Younis: It’s not been received very well by everyone in Pakistan has it. They were sudden retirements just before the tough tour of Australia which made it a very difficult time for us. We were left with and exposed by having a very young bowling attack. It was hurtful at the time and if they wanted to do it, they could have done it in a better way, but coming at that time was not very pleasant at all.
    Blatant LIE or Waqar just isn't paying attention. Amir and Riaz retired back in July not suddenly before the Australia tour ! You had MONTHS to think about their replacements, but the best you came up with was Musa Khan (QEA 19/20 average of 65) and 32 years young Imran Khan (QEA 19/20 average of 49). And guess what ? Both got annihilated in Australia.

    PakPassion.net: Faheem Ashraf seems to have lost his way in international cricket. How do you plan to restore his confidence and get him back to his best?

    Waqar Younis: We wanted to have him around for the recent Sri Lanka Test series, but he was injured. We would love to have the luxury of an all-rounder in the Test team who can give us that fourth bowling option, especially when you have a young pace-bowling attack. Look at England with Ben Stokes who is batting at number 5 or 6 and is a complete bowling option. It’s very handy to have someone like Stokes in your Test team with both bat and ball and we are searching for that option. Faheem has been around the squad for a while now and we want to get him fit, to work on his batting too and fill that all-rounder’s spot if he can.
    How can you compare the role of Ben Stokes to Faheem the legside cowlasher Ashraf ?! Wow, @Mamoon and @topspin will have a field day with this comparison.

    Faheem Ashraf would not have been able to perform as Ben Stokes did in the World Cup final and Headingley Test even if he was playing himself in Brian Lara Cricket on cheat mode.

    He isn't even good enough for Northants' T20 team and you want him in Test cricket. Only injury prevented another farcical selection from this clueless duo. @Titan24 @Hawkeye come and defend these answers.

    PakPassion.net: Are there any upcoming pace-bowlers who have impressed you this season in domestic cricket?

    Waqar Younis: The door is open for everyone. I’ll be watching the Pakistan Super League closely and looking out for pace-bowlers who I feel have the potential to play for Pakistan. We have a nice group of pace-bowlers at the moment and I feel we are well-covered for all three formats but there is always room for additional bowlers to be added to our group. Ehsan Adil is one bowler that I am keeping a close eye on and he is someone who has been bowling well this season, can bat and is a handy fielder too. I have already mentioned some of the group of pace-bowlers we have at our disposal and in addition Usman Khan Shinwari is an impressive bowler. What I am trying to do is to have this group of pace-bowlers and to keep a very close eye on this batch and monitor their progress very closely. We are planning to have another camp for pace-bowlers ahead of the series against Bangladesh and that will also give us another opportunity to look at the pace-bowlers.
    Ehsan Adil's highest score this season in QEA Trophy is 25 so not sure what batting abilities Waqar's on about. Also if Ehsan Adil is that impressive, why did you pick an unproven kid in Musa Khan and a has been like Imran Khan over him in Australia despite Ehsan outperforming BOTH this season in QEA Trophy ?

    Conclusion - we are screwed with this Misbah, Waqar and Azhar combination. It's like the blind leading the blind. No tactical awareness, no grasp even on basic facts and numbers. Just going from one series to another without a plan and hoping for the best. God help Pakistan cricket in 2020.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Do you have any clear ideas why your previous two stints as Head Coach and Bowling Coach went down in flames ? What lessons have you learned about your tactical awareness and man management skills to ensure this latest tenure won't also be a failure ?

    Did you do any coaching in domestic cricket outside PSL or Pakistan to hone your skills ? No you ran back to the comfort of the commentary box.

    I missed the part where Misbah had a gun to his head where he was forced to accept all these roles.


    Here we go again with the mythology. Our new ball bowling has been horrendous for the last few years as was laid bare in Australia. We didn't look like taking 10 wickets forget 20. In South Africa last winter, we saw Sri Lanka outbowl our seamers on friendly pitches. For the first time in history, India look to have a superior pace attack than ours in all formats. If we're to improve then we must admit our shortcomings instead of this cliched line "vee hav da best PHAST bowlers !"


    What a hypocrite, what were you and your mate Wasim doing in the 1990s ? You burned yourselves out playing County Cricket and didn't manage your workloads to keep yourself 100% for Pakistan. Instead the lure of the County money was too much.


    Vague stuff you'd hear from anyone here sitting behind their computer screens not an experienced international coach and ex-player. Yeah no kidding fast bowlers need to be fit and should look be like Dale Steyn or Jimmy Anderson ! What insight.


    And that's why you debuted him in Australia of all places days after his mother died to save the skins of yourself and Misbah's. Pathetic management of a young kid.


    Haris Rauf is an outstanding young talent, that's why I okayed the selections of Musa Khan and 37 year old Mohammed Irfan for Australia instead.


    Blatant LIE or Waqar just isn't paying attention. Amir and Riaz retired back in July not suddenly before the Australia tour ! You had MONTHS to think about their replacements, but the best you came up with was Musa Khan (QEA 19/20 average of 65) and 32 years young Imran Khan (QEA 19/20 average of 49). And guess what ? Both got annihilated in Australia.


    How can you compare the role of Ben Stokes to Faheem the legside cowlasher Ashraf ?! Wow, @Mamoon and @topspin will have a field day with this comparison.

    Faheem Ashraf would not have been able to perform as Ben Stokes did in the World Cup final and Headingley Test even if he was playing himself in Brian Lara Cricket on cheat mode.

    He isn't even good enough for Northants' T20 team and you want him in Test cricket. Only injury prevented another farcical selection from this clueless duo. @Titan24 @Hawkeye come and defend these answers.


    Ehsan Adil's highest score this season in QEA Trophy is 25 so not sure what batting abilities Waqar's on about. Also if Ehsan Adil is that impressive, why did you pick an unproven kid in Musa Khan and a has been like Imran Khan over him in Australia despite Ehsan outperforming BOTH this season in QEA Trophy ?

    Conclusion - we are screwed with this Misbah, Waqar and Azhar combination. It's like the blind leading the blind. No tactical awareness, no grasp even on basic facts and numbers. Just going from one series to another without a plan and hoping for the best. God help Pakistan cricket in 2020.
    Did Waqar younis slap you as a child or something?

    Amir and Wahab retired from test cricket in July but Waqar was assigned coach in September. September to October is a very short span to identify alternatives which are not TTF and suitable for australian conditions and non familiarity can lead to mistakes too

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    Quote Originally Posted by HasanA View Post
    Did Waqar younis slap you as a child or something?

    Amir and Wahab retired from test cricket in July but Waqar was assigned coach in September. September to October is a very short span to identify alternatives which are not TTF and suitable for australian conditions and non familiarity can lead to mistakes too
    So Waqar needed longer than a month to work out it wasn't a good idea taking an unproven kid averaging 65 in QEA Trophy who leaks runs like a sieve, and a "32 year old" has-been averaging 49 in QEA Trophy who hadn't played Test cricket for 3 years and miserably failed in Australia last time around.

    Gotcha.

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    @Markhor. Imran Khan and Musa Khan were poor selections for tests while Irfan at this age and fitness wasnt the best choice for international T20s. There are no two ways about it and I have mentioned that before as well.

    Its not a hidden fact that Misbah is inexperienced as a selector and a coach so it was always gonna take time for him to get hang of the things. That is the reason I always said that he needs to be given time before passing any judgement. Selection of playing xi and strategies were better against Srl.

    Regarding Waqar's interview I think you are too harsh and nitpicking every single thing. If same thing would have been done with Mickey's (Asad=Tendu, Faheem=Klusner etc) and Azhar Mehmood's press conferences than countless paragraphs could also be written.

    As a bowling coach he was pretty decent in mid 2000s considering the pacers he had and what he made them into.

    Naseem Shah debuting in tests, Shaheen Shah being groomed well (Dont need a magnifying glass to see that in swing against right handers he has developed). Debuting Abid Ali in tests, moving Babar to no 4 and including Rizwan over Sarfaraz are definitely some positives within few months.

    I think sometimes personal likes and dislikes go way overboard and thus eliminate objectivity.

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    Waqar is useless

    Enjoy his next failure
    And the excuses he will use

    Just admit you're an awful coach in all aspects
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    Yeah ridiculous post by markhor .Waqar and Misbah is not the best combo but calling them out in every minor thing is harsh.

    Apart from irfan I do not think there have been any major blunders with Amir and Wahab leaving Faheem and Hassan injures they had to take a few calls on the hunch as domestic record of past few few seasons was not a barometer to judge due to pitches and balls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    @Markhor. Imran Khan and Musa Khan were poor selections for tests while Irfan at this age and fitness wasnt the best choice for international T20s. There are no two ways about it and I have mentioned that before as well.

    Its not a hidden fact that Misbah is inexperienced as a selector and a coach so it was always gonna take time for him to get hang of the things. .
    No offence, but that's a lame excuse.

    Pretty much all of us could have said that it could not work to take 5 quick bowlers to Australia of whom 4 were short, 2 were teenagers, 2 were bowling around 120-125K and 2 had averages of 49.50 and 65.00 in domestic First Class cricket this season.

    It was obvious that there needed to be two bowlers in their twenties who were tall - probably Ehsan Adil and Sameen Gul. It was obvious that Musa Khan did not have the tools to cope in Test cricket.

    It was an exceptionally poorly selected pace attack, chosen by a man who as captain was always incompetent at managing his pace attack.

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    I learned when I briefly met Waqar at Adelaide last month that he is not a guy who bothers to deal in facts.

    He couldn't even remember facts about his own career. And he gave an interview at Brisbane in late November saying that Imran Khan had earned his recall by domestic performances this season.....when in fact he actually averaged 49.50 with the ball in the QEA!

    Waqar has a terrific career behind him and a charismatic manner. And he clearly does not bother either to follow how his bowling attack is performing at home or away, or even to learn the technical side of coaching.

    Australians welcome well-credentialled coaches from overseas - Mickey Arthur arrived from South Africa and instantly got the job of coaching Western Australia. Graeme Hick, of all people, is the Aussie national team's batting coach.

    But Waqar Younis has been living in Sydney for over a decade without either doing his full coaching training or getting a job - any job - as a coach.

    That tells you everything you need to know. Great player. Not a coach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    How can you compare the role of Ben Stokes to Faheem the legside cowlasher Ashraf ?! Wow, @Mamoon and @topspin will have a field day with this comparison.


    That alone is a sackable offense. You have to question the wisdom of PCB - what is the rationale behind appointing a failed captain and a failed coach in 2019?

    Absolute shambles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post

    How can you compare the role of Ben Stokes to Faheem the legside cowlasher Ashraf ?! Wow, @Mamoon and @topspin will have a field day with this comparison.

    Faheem Ashraf would not have been able to perform as Ben Stokes did in the World Cup final and Headingley Test even if he was playing himself in Brian Lara Cricket on cheat mode. .
    Letís not be too harsh about a coach making ridiculous comparisons with established international superstars because that opens a can of worms for you.

    Need I remind you: Asad Tendulkar. Babar Kohli, Sharjeel Warner. Faheem Klusener. Shaheen Shah Starc. Iím sure missed quite a few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoib View Post
    Yeah ridiculous post by markhor .Waqar and Misbah is not the best combo but calling them out in every minor thing is harsh.

    Apart from irfan I do not think there have been any major blunders with Amir and Wahab leaving Faheem and Hassan injures they had to take a few calls on the hunch as domestic record of past few few seasons was not a barometer to judge due to pitches and balls.
    I don't understand the excuse that Misbah and Waqar needed more time to assess the talent when one look at the domestic bowling charts this season would've told them it was a terrible idea to pick Musa and Imran who average 65 and 49 respectively.

    Musa Khan had barely a handful of FC matches to his name, is well below 6ft, and cannot land six balls in the same area. Meanwhile, alleged 32 year old Imran Khan, was spanked to all parts of the SCG on his last tour of Australia and hovers around 125kph. It takes you and I a minute to realise it would be a massive blunder to take this duo to Australia, combined with two kids in Shaheen and Naseem, a half fit Abbas, and Yasir Shah who averages over 90 in the Southern Hemisphere. Yet these two geniuses didn't and consequently oversaw the WORST bowling performance by average (89.92) over a Test series in our history.

    Also are we talking about a foreign coach with no exposure to Pakistan cricket whatsoever, or two individuals with 20+ years combined worth of Test match experience for Pakistan plus a few years of coaching and commentary ? It's not nitpicking to suggest these two ought to know better.

    Finally, no the strategies were not better vs Sri Lanka even during the win in Karachi. We were setting defensive fields with two slips and a deep point even after getting into the Sri Lankan tail !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    How can you compare the role of Ben Stokes to Faheem the legside cowlasher Ashraf ?! Wow, @Mamoon and @topspin will have a field day with this comparison.

    Faheem Ashraf would not have been able to perform as Ben Stokes did in the World Cup final and Headingley Test even if he was playing himself in Brian Lara Cricket on cheat mode.

    He isn't even good enough for Northants' T20 team and you want him in Test cricket. Only injury prevented another farcical selection from this clueless duo. @Titan24 @Hawkeye come and defend these answers.
    LOOL

    I've heard it all now from this tactical failure. When will the PCB learn to keep this incompetent individual away from the national side?!

    He was responsible for the failed 2003 WC campaign and was horrific during his two stints as Head Coach.

    As for Titan24, I'm not surprised to see him defend the duo of Misbah and Waqar. This guy vouched for a tea sippping Mohsin Khan to be Mickey Arthur's first replacement around this time last year.

    Markhor let me ask you, how can anyone with a rational mind rate Mohsin Khan more than Mickey Arthur as a Head Coach of a national cricket team?

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    I’ve spoken to Misbah-ul-Haq about him: Waqar Younis keen on handing Pakistan debut to Haris Rauf soon


    Uncapped Pakistan pacer Haris Rauf has been making the headlines for his sensational show with the ball in the ongoing Big Bash League (BBL) 2019-20. The 26-year-old became the first bowler to pick up 10 wickets from his first three matches in BBL history and many experts have urged Misbah-ul-Haq to pick Haris for Pakistan.

    Meanwhile, Pakistan’s bowling coach and a legend of the game, Waqar Younis has said that he has been left impressed by Haris’ bowling performances and has spoken to Misbah for bringing him in the current pack of pace bowlers in the national team setup.

    Misbah heaped praise on Haris for his superlative show with the ball in Pakistan Super League (PSL) and Big Bash League as the former Pakistan skipper said Haris is a strong lad who has been working really hard on his fitness and bowling while adding the Pakistan team management is looking to bring him in the Pakistan team soon.

    “I watched him at the Pakistan Super League and was impressed by him. He possesses pace, he’s a smart bowler who is aggressive which I really like about him and I’m really glad that he has done well at the Big Bash League. He’s a strong lad, who has been working very hard on his fitness and he bowls a really good slower-ball. I’ve spoken to Misbah-ul-Haq about him and we are thinking about bringing him into our pack of pace-bowlers, working with him and hopefully we can push him into the Pakistan team soon,” Waqar said in an interview to PakPassion.

    If brought into the Pakistan national team, Haris will join the likes of Shaheen Shah Afridi, Naseem Shah, Musa Khan and others to take the pace attack forward with the team looking for a fruitful year in 2020 after having a cold cricket season in 2019.

    https://www.timesnownews.com/sports/...uf-soon/535011

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    Waqar Younis names youngster who could become Pakistan’s Ben Stokes


    Pakistan legend and current bowling coach Waqar Younis backed injured seamer Faheem Ashraf to take up the allrounder’s responsibilities for the team, once he regains fitness. Ashraf has been out of the team since Pakistan’s T20I series against Sri Lanka in Lahore in October last year. The seamer recently displayed signs of form when he played for Central Punjab in the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy final against Northern. He returned with a five-wicket haul in the first innings, and then picked up another in the second innings to help his side win the title.

    Ashraf also scored 119 runs in three matches for Central Punjab, at a strike rate of 90 and an average of 59. In an interview to Pak Passion, Younis recognised Ashraf as someone who can become Pakistan’s Ben Stokes.

    “We wanted to have him around for the recent Sri Lanka Test series, but he was injured. We would love to have the luxury of an all-rounder in the Test team who can give us that fourth bowling option, especially when you have a young pace-bowling attack. Look at England with Ben Stokes who is batting at number 5 or 6 and is a complete bowling option,” the former speedster said.

    “It’s very handy to have someone like Stokes in your Test team with both bat and ball and we are searching for that option. Faheem has been around the squad for a while now and we want to get him fit, to work on his batting too and fill that all-rounder’s spot if he can,” he added.

    Meanwhile, the players of Pakistan cricket team will undergo fitness test at the National Cricket Academy (NCA) on 6 and 7 January, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) announced on Friday. “All the available centrally contracted players will attend the two-day testing, which is aligned to their contracts. Wahab Riaz, Mohammad Amir and Shadab Khan, who will be occupied with their commitments in the Bangladesh Premier League, will undergo the tests on 20 and 21 January,” the PCB statement read.

    https://www.hindustantimes.com/crick...jQYcctXdN.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    I learned when I briefly met Waqar at Adelaide last month that he is not a guy who bothers to deal in facts.

    He couldn't even remember facts about his own career. And he gave an interview at Brisbane in late November saying that Imran Khan had earned his recall by domestic performances this season.....when in fact he actually averaged 49.50 with the ball in the QEA!

    Waqar has a terrific career behind him and a charismatic manner. And he clearly does not bother either to follow how his bowling attack is performing at home or away, or even to learn the technical side of coaching.

    Australians welcome well-credentialled coaches from overseas - Mickey Arthur arrived from South Africa and instantly got the job of coaching Western Australia. Graeme Hick, of all people, is the Aussie national team's batting coach.

    But Waqar Younis has been living in Sydney for over a decade without either doing his full coaching training or getting a job - any job - as a coach.

    That tells you everything you need to know. Great player. Not a coach.
    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    @Titan24



    I don't understand the excuse that Misbah and Waqar needed more time to assess the talent when one look at the domestic bowling charts this season would've told them it was a terrible idea to pick Musa and Imran who average 65 and 49 respectively.

    Musa Khan had barely a handful of FC matches to his name, is well below 6ft, and cannot land six balls in the same area. Meanwhile, alleged 32 year old Imran Khan, was spanked to all parts of the SCG on his last tour of Australia and hovers around 125kph. It takes you and I a minute to realise it would be a massive blunder to take this duo to Australia, combined with two kids in Shaheen and Naseem, a half fit Abbas, and Yasir Shah who averages over 90 in the Southern Hemisphere. Yet these two geniuses didn't and consequently oversaw the WORST bowling performance by average (89.92) over a Test series in our history.

    Also are we talking about a foreign coach with no exposure to Pakistan cricket whatsoever, or two individuals with 20+ years combined worth of Test match experience for Pakistan plus a few years of coaching and commentary ? It's not nitpicking to suggest these two ought to know better.

    Finally, no the strategies were not better vs Sri Lanka even during the win in Karachi. We were setting defensive fields with two slips and a deep point even after getting into the Sri Lankan tail !
    There is no excuse and everybody has labelled those selections as a mistake. Also I guess you both are pretty keen cricket followers so you should know that cricket as a player, as a captain is completely different from coaching a national side.

    Travis Baylis, Mike Hessen etc were not cricketing legends but are really good coaches. Mentioning Misbah's test experience and experience as a captain is irrelevant when it comes to coaching as its a different ball game altogether. By the logic of you guys of test experience and captaincy experience all the successful coaches would have had a lot of international experience which is clearly not the case emphasizing the fact that both are not related, yes can help on occasions. Misbah as captain had the help of coach and the selection panel for the selections which as a head coach/ selector along with other selectors in the panel its a much different JD for him.

    @Markhor I said tactics were better not perfect. The way some people judge tactics like defensive field=poor tactics, aggressive field= excellent tactics; thats not how it works.Yes the use of the strategies werent perfect but sometimes even in the first day of the match you can have fielders on the boundary depending upon who are you are bowling against. SA just had two fielders on the boundary for Stokes to cover his scoring areas, same was the case against Denly with a fielder on the boundary in his scoring zone. Again tactics against Srl wasnt perfect but many posters have the tendency to call out every defensive field as poor tactics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    I’ve spoken to Misbah-ul-Haq about him: Waqar Younis keen on handing Pakistan debut to Haris Rauf soon


    Uncapped Pakistan pacer Haris Rauf has been making the headlines for his sensational show with the ball in the ongoing Big Bash League (BBL) 2019-20. The 26-year-old became the first bowler to pick up 10 wickets from his first three matches in BBL history and many experts have urged Misbah-ul-Haq to pick Haris for Pakistan.

    Meanwhile, Pakistan’s bowling coach and a legend of the game, Waqar Younis has said that he has been left impressed by Haris’ bowling performances and has spoken to Misbah for bringing him in the current pack of pace bowlers in the national team setup.

    Misbah heaped praise on Haris for his superlative show with the ball in Pakistan Super League (PSL) and Big Bash League as the former Pakistan skipper said Haris is a strong lad who has been working really hard on his fitness and bowling while adding the Pakistan team management is looking to bring him in the Pakistan team soon.

    “I watched him at the Pakistan Super League and was impressed by him. He possesses pace, he’s a smart bowler who is aggressive which I really like about him and I’m really glad that he has done well at the Big Bash League. He’s a strong lad, who has been working very hard on his fitness and he bowls a really good slower-ball. I’ve spoken to Misbah-ul-Haq about him and we are thinking about bringing him into our pack of pace-bowlers, working with him and hopefully we can push him into the Pakistan team soon,” Waqar said in an interview to PakPassion.

    If brought into the Pakistan national team, Haris will join the likes of Shaheen Shah Afridi, Naseem Shah, Musa Khan and others to take the pace attack forward with the team looking for a fruitful year in 2020 after having a cold cricket season in 2019.

    https://www.timesnownews.com/sports/...uf-soon/535011

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    Waqar Younis names youngster who could become Pakistan’s Ben Stokes


    Pakistan legend and current bowling coach Waqar Younis backed injured seamer Faheem Ashraf to take up the allrounder’s responsibilities for the team, once he regains fitness. Ashraf has been out of the team since Pakistan’s T20I series against Sri Lanka in Lahore in October last year. The seamer recently displayed signs of form when he played for Central Punjab in the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy final against Northern. He returned with a five-wicket haul in the first innings, and then picked up another in the second innings to help his side win the title.

    Ashraf also scored 119 runs in three matches for Central Punjab, at a strike rate of 90 and an average of 59. In an interview to Pak Passion, Younis recognised Ashraf as someone who can become Pakistan’s Ben Stokes.

    “We wanted to have him around for the recent Sri Lanka Test series, but he was injured. We would love to have the luxury of an all-rounder in the Test team who can give us that fourth bowling option, especially when you have a young pace-bowling attack. Look at England with Ben Stokes who is batting at number 5 or 6 and is a complete bowling option,” the former speedster said.

    “It’s very handy to have someone like Stokes in your Test team with both bat and ball and we are searching for that option. Faheem has been around the squad for a while now and we want to get him fit, to work on his batting too and fill that all-rounder’s spot if he can,” he added.

    Meanwhile, the players of Pakistan cricket team will undergo fitness test at the National Cricket Academy (NCA) on 6 and 7 January, the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) announced on Friday. “All the available centrally contracted players will attend the two-day testing, which is aligned to their contracts. Wahab Riaz, Mohammad Amir and Shadab Khan, who will be occupied with their commitments in the Bangladesh Premier League, will undergo the tests on 20 and 21 January,” the PCB statement read.

    https://www.hindustantimes.com/crick...jQYcctXdN.html
    I almost chocked on my food when i read Waqar thinks Faheem can match Stokes

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    Well Faheem Ashraf is still held in high regard by this management as well. I would say that currently he is a better bowler than an allrounder.

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    I dont get the hate for Wahab in test matches. He has only played 27 test matches since his debut in 2010. And in his last test match against Australia in Dubai, 2018 he was wicket-less. He was dropped for next test series against New Zealand in the UAE.

    So he was hardly a regular in test matches and was on his way out due to age and form. Yes Amir deserves the criticism for test retirement as he is younger and Pakistan invested time in him during his ban and after. But I think the critics are being harsh on Wahab. At least he gave it his all in test matches, something Amir did not do post ban.

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    Can somebody please make a video of Faheem Ashraf in the nets because I am pretty sure he looks a million dollar in the nets hence Waqar is such a fan.

    He has always looked an average bowler and a number 10 batsman whenever I am watched him in a televised game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza619 View Post
    Can somebody please make a video of Faheem Ashraf in the nets because I am pretty sure he looks a million dollar in the nets hence Waqar is such a fan.

    He has always looked an average bowler and a number 10 batsman whenever I am watched him in a televised game.
    I'm yet to be convinced by him. He's shown the odd glimpse of some talent but by and large he's been pretty average in Pakistan colours.



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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza619 View Post
    Can somebody please make a video of Faheem Ashraf in the nets because I am pretty sure he looks a million dollar in the nets hence Waqar is such a fan.

    He has always looked an average bowler and a number 10 batsman whenever I am watched him in a televised game.
    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    I'm yet to be convinced by him. He's shown the odd glimpse of some talent but by and large he's been pretty average in Pakistan colours.
    He has 11 wickets in 4 Tests as the fifth bowler.

    Those wickets were taken at an average of 26.09 with an economy rate of 3.18 and a strike rate of 49.0.

    If that is average for Pakistan then Pakistan is a very lucky country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    He has 11 wickets in 4 Tests as the fifth bowler.

    Those wickets were taken at an average of 26.09 with an economy rate of 3.18 and a strike rate of 49.0.

    If that is average for Pakistan then Pakistan is a very lucky country.
    I have not dig deep into his stats but I would regard that as only an anomaly. His job is to score runs as well but he has not just failed but massively failed in all formats.

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    An overrated crop of young bowlers hyped by desperately delusional fans and coached by a terrible coach.

    What can go wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    An overrated crop of young bowlers hyped by desperately delusional fans and coached by a terrible coach.

    What can go wrong?
    You are wrong. Go and watch the Big Bash League. Aussie commentators and fans are singing praises of Haris Rauf all day long. He is a level above all the Australian players playing. He can be Pakistan's equivalent of Bumrah and revive our limited overs bowling.

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    2020 is the year when the team turns its course and dominates the decade?


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