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    "I still have a lot to offer Pakistan cricket" : Ahmed Shehzad

    Ahmed Shehzad's promise as one of the outstanding batting talents to emerge from Pakistan seems to have largely been unfulfilled despite representing his country 153 times and scoring 5058 runs.

    In an exclusive interview with PakPassion.net, Shehzad spoke about why criticism against him is unjustified, his hope that he will get more opportunities to represent Pakistan with Misbah-ul-Haq as Chief Selector, what he feels are the reasons behind Babar Azam's phenomenal rise as a world-class batsman and his goal to make another comeback to serve his country in the near future.





    PakPassion.net: What do you so to those that state you have had enough chances to prove yourself for Pakistan and do not deserve another opportunity?

    Ahmed Shehzad:
    I don’t agree with my critics when they say I have had too many chances to show my worth for Pakistan. I feel this is not the right phrase to use to describe my situation as I have earned those chances to play for Pakistan and have always performed for my country. It's not about scoring well in a couple of series or in a few domestic tournaments, rather it’s to do with the entire journey I have undertaken. If one looks back at my career, you will see that I have always performed well at the Pakistan Under 13, Under 19 and Pakistan ‘A’ levels and then of course, for Pakistan as well. Even when my performances were not up to the mark at the international level, I have managed to pull things back at the domestic level. The fact is that if one gets a proper run in international cricket, the player can improve. For example, if you look at the number of international runs I have scored and add them to the ones that I scored in domestic cricket after being dropped from the Pakistan side, you will conclude that I could have scored all those runs for Pakistan had I been retained in the national side, and that would have been good for the country as well.


    PakPassion.net: You recently made a comeback for Pakistan in a couple of games and were then dropped again. Was that unsettling and do you believe you were given a fair chance?

    Ahmed Shehzad:
    First of all, let me admit that whether I got one or two chances to play for Pakistan, I should have done better. But yes, such things do play on one’s mind and to show how our administration can fix such a problem, let me give you the example of the England side. When Andrew Strauss took over as Team Director in 2015, he called upon England One-Day captain Eoin Morgan to ask for the reasons for the poor performances at that time. Morgan told him that his players had a fear of failure and that this situation needed to be improved. So, they sat down and strategized and came up with an idea to create a pool of the 15 best available and talented players in the country and put in a process to support them. Morgan was given Strauss’s word that once that pool of players had been selected, they would have the full support of the management. These players would be given a chance to perform for 2 years regardless of whether they fail or succeed. From my memory, I can say that during that period, I saw Jos Buttler and Joe Root who were not performing well worked very hard to fix their situation. I also recall seeing Jonny Bairstow struggle and Jason Roy upset during the Champions Trophy as he wasn’t scoring runs at that time. The same was the case with Ben Stokes before he did so well at the 2019 World Cup. My point is simply that all these players had support, and no one was getting dropped and, in the end, how did they repay this trust? They not only did perform well but they also made a name for themselves and won the World Cup for their country. We need to do the same which is to help remove that fear of failure and also choose those skilful and talented players who can play at the highest level.


    PakPassion.net: Would it be correct to say that you thrive upon the confidence of the captain and coach and sometimes that has not been there for you?

    Ahmed Shehzad:
    It's not only me who feels like that, but every player needs that. I think it's very reasonable to expect a certain amount of respect and support from your coach and team management in the same way others are getting. When you don’t get that support, it does affect your performance. I believe to make a good player, there needs to be a bit more effort and you cannot just bring players into the team and then drop them. Developing a player is a process and you need to polish his skills over time which is something that all countries do.


    PakPassion.net:The Pakistan team of today seems to lack superstars, why is that?

    Ahmed Shehzad:
    I think to win consistently against the big teams, we need to produce superstars, but you need to make such players first which is something we have consistently failed to do in recent times. What also does not help the situation is when we call someone a superstar and start criticising them within a year when they don’t do so well. What does need to happen is to identify some players as potential superstars and then develop them over a period of time. A team needs 3-4 such players not only to win games and win against the big teams, but also to bring in crowds to watch the matches which is a win-win situation for everyone.


    PakPassion.net: You’ve been around for what seems an age, but do you think you are still to reach your peak as a batsman?

    Ahmed Shehzad:
    I am now 28 and have already played 153 games for my country across all three formats. Many players start their international careers around this age, but I have played so many games already at this stage of my life and learnt so much from that experience. Of course, you have tough times in your career, but the good thing is that if at a young age you get to see difficult phases then it does prepare you for tougher challenges later on. What I have learnt from the past two years is that whenever I have been dropped from the side, I have always performed and made a comeback and have not faded away which could easily happen to someone in my situation. These are the positives I have taken from these two years and I am now waiting for another chance to cement my place in the side and winning games for my country. I believe I still have a lot to offer Pakistan cricket.


    PakPassion.net: Does the appointment of Misbah-ul-Haq as Head Coach and Chief selector give you more hope than the previous management regime?

    Ahmed Shehzad:
    Misbah-ul-Haq is an honest gentleman and we all know that he was the best Test captain Pakistan has ever produced. I am convinced that he will always do what is beneficial for the country and won’t be biased. Like every other person starting in a new position or a job, he too needs time to settle in. At the same time, Misbah’s appointment is a great opportunity for players like me to work hard and perform and try and find a place under his very capable management.


    PakPassion.net: You could have been the player mirroring Babar Azam’s current achievements. How do you feel about that?

    Ahmed Shehzad:
    I am happy and proud of what Babar Azam has achieved for Pakistan. He is like a younger brother to me, and what he has achieved at this young age is amazing. But at the same time, I consider the presence of Babar in the Pakistan side to be a healthy form of competition for me as when you have such a situation it leads to an overall improvement in the whole team. Mickey Arthur has done a good job of grooming Babar very well and he made sure that he got to bat at the position he desired and was pampered a bit. This is not a bad thing and it really needs to happen with every other player as well and only then can we see more players like Babar emerge in Pakistan.


    PakPassion.net: There’s still some uncertainty in the opening spots for Pakistan in all formats, do you still believe you have an opportunity to cement a place in international cricket?

    Ahmed Shehzad:
    All I believe is that it's important to give chances to players and for players to avail such opportunities. Whenever players are given a chance, it’s not just an opportunity to guarantee their own survival, but it’s something that will ultimately benefit their country too. This is what I have in mind whenever I go out in the middle to play for Pakistan. My objective is to always play innings which have an impact on the game and can help win the game. Coming to the question of opening spots for Pakistan, it is true that there is a problem in that aspect and I am looking to fill that slot just like I had for about 5 years. I feel that I still have 10 to 12 years left in me to serve the country based upon the kind of training and fitness regimes I am following. If I can get to play 6-7 more years of international cricket for my country, I feel confident that I will be making and break many records for Pakistan.


    PakPassion.net: Does playing in all three formats of the game unsettle and adversely affect a batsman?

    Ahmed Shehzad:
    I can only thank The Almighty that he has given me the talent and skills where I don’t have to change too much to adapt to the different formats of the game. In terms of records, I am second behind Rohit Sharma in terms of the number of hundreds amongst Asian batsmen in T20s with 5 centuries to my name and I was part of the Pakistan team when it attained the number one ranking in T20Is which is something I am proud of. In addition, I averaged around 51 in last year’s PSL, then I got selected for the series against Sri Lanka but got dropped again, but overall I feel that my performances are very good. If one looks at my Test match performances, I have three hundreds in 13 matches which were scored against some big sides such like Australia, New Zealand and Sri Lanka but then I was unfortunately dropped after doing well against the West Indies. In ODIs, I was very young when I played my first game and my average was not that good but then when I came back after being dropped and I have scored at a healthy average over the last three years. I will also be the first to admit that I have underperformed in the last 10 innings in ODIs due to some reasons which are best left undiscussed for now. Regardless of what has happened, my focus based on 153 international games so far has been to produce wonders for my country. I feel I have natural talent and have been performing well with dedication over the last two years but all I need is a proper opportunity to prove myself and once I am settled in the side, I will hope to be once again playing match-winning innings for my country.


    PakPassion.net: The win for Central Punjab in the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy this year must have been very satisfying for you?

    Ahmed Shehzad:
    It was an absolutely amazing achievement for the Central Punjab side to win the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy this year and we are all very satisfied with our team's performances. It was a little tough to regroup the side after the National T20 Cup and focus on the 4-Day competition. However, I am proud to say that we managed to pull it off and what was particularly pleasing for me was that I captained the side for 8 games during our successful campaign. The PCB need to be congratulated for their efforts to breathe new life into this competition and I am sure the benefits of the new structure will be visible to all in the next few years.


    PakPassion.net: Given the ups and downs of your career to date, what are your realistic short-term and long-term goals?

    Ahmed Shehzad:
    All I have wanted to do since I was 15 years old has been to play for my country and do wonders for my side. In doing so, I will continue to make a name for myself and also help take Pakistan to newer heights and once I am in a position to do so, I wish to inspire the not so fortunate and the newer generation to follow my example in serving the nation. These are my aims for now and will remain so for the rest of my life.


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    I know he gets a lot of hate around here most of it is kind of justified.

    Dont care what his strike rate or average is in international cricket, but I still rate him very highly. Its such a shame he has disappointed on so many occasions. The good thing from Ahmed Shehzad's perspective is that there is only one batting position confirmed in the Pakistan team and that is Babar Azam. All the other batting spots are debatable and so this keeps the door open for him.

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    Kid wants to stay for another 12 years

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    More than 10 openers outscored him in the QEA Trophy. Blew his chance in the T20Is against SL.

    Barring some PSL heroics, he won't be getting a look in anytime soon.


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    The only word to describe him is deluded.
    He's nowhere near good enough to play internationally anymore, so many others have moved way ahead of him in the pecking order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    More than 10 openers outscored him in the QEA Trophy. Blew his chance in the T20Is against SL.

    Barring some PSL heroics, he won't be getting a look in anytime soon.
    Hopefully he never comes back again. A rubbish batsmen who thinks he's some sort of superstar.

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    Some decent points alongside some extreme statements from Shehzad.

    So he would have scored all those runs at international level he scored in domestics after being dropped, if he wasnt dropped? Quality of bowlers and pressure is definitely different at international level so it wasnt as straightforward a thing as Shehzad is suggesting.

    Babar is the product of grooming and pampering? Yes he was handled well but he also had the ingredients and work ethic to become what he has. Ahmed Shehzad also played under Mickey and number of coaches, why he wasnt able to earn their pampering and couldnt groom like Babar.

    The problem with Ahmed Shehzad I think has always been that he is too much into himself and pretty over confident on occasions. He should have been working hard and improving his weaknesses like top players around the world including Babar do. By thinking you are already a star you can never become a star.
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    He should have been kicked out of the side way back in 2015. The only reason why he managed to play 150 games for Pakistan was his friendship with Afridi.

    Shehzad started to find it tough to get a consistent place in the XI as soon as Afridi retired. He was never that talented to begin with.

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    lol this guy is so delusional. He really thinks that domestic standard of cricket is the same as international that all the runs at that level could be easily replicated at the highest level? This is up there with the ‘my 50 was really a 100 on this ground’ comment a few years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post

    "I still have a lot to offer Pakistan cricket"...says Mr. Selfie Man :-)

    More than 10 openers outscored him in the QEA Trophy. Blew his chance in the T20Is against SL.

    Barring some PSL heroics, he won't be getting a look in anytime soon.




    Whatever he is selling, based on what Abdullah shared up there, anyone (even teams from Timbaktu etc.) would be insane to want what he has to offer!

    Total midget mentally when faced by good teams and judging by his most recent domestic stats, barely good enough domestically as well.

    I would rather we invest in someone without any antics and tons of promise like the U19 opener: Haider, now that is someone I am willing to give a long run and to even ignore any failures rather than someone who has barely shown any promise except a match here and there
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    Wow just wow, deluded or what?
    He seriously believes that there is no difference between INT and Domestic cricket!

    Besided he never was talented to begin with.
    Right from his very 1st ODI he has struggled to score at a 75 plus SR.

    He is a tuk tuk machine.

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    Would’ve been a good batsman had he focused on his game than trying to be the next poster boy after Afridi. He wasted his talent by not working on it. This is true for majority of our players. Nothing special in Ahmed unless he has a drastic epiphany and realizes how much work he needs to put in to be considered the superstar he thinks he is.

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    Akmal 2.0

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    The superstar point is interesting - I believe he thinks he feels that he fits the bill for that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    The superstar point is interesting - I believe that he feels he fits the bill for that!
    Lala was grooming him as his successor in the superstar of the nation role.

    Jealous people destroyed that noble dream.
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    It was completely unfair to drop him from the Test side. The controversies regarding his attitude and the poor performances in Limited Overs cost him a place in the Test team which shouldn’t have happened.

    A Test average of 41 after 13 Tests with centuries against Sri Lanka, Australia and New Zealand (176) is an extremely impressive record for a rubbish team like Pakistan.

    Furthermore, Test cricket is easily his best format. He struggles to maintain a good SR and gets tied up in Limited Overs, but he has frequently shown his ability to occupy the crease and bat for long period of time.

    His temperament is definitely far superior than the likes of Umar, Maqsood and Amin etc., the other failed players of his generation.

    During his 2013-14 patch which was his most prolific in international cricket, he scored quite a few hundreds in all formats and would regularly bat for long periods of time.

    With a clearly impressive Test record, he has only played 2-3 Tests since 2014 and scored a 70 in his last Test in 2017.

    I challenge anyone to justify why he deserved to be dropped from the Test side without hiding behind his attitude and Limited Overs record.

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    I can’t remember the specific match but after he got hit on the head from a bouncer his batting was never the same again.

    He always seemed like he was playing for his place. It’s easier to score runs in domestic and he has done so at very good SR. But then the difference in class shows at international level.

    Even before taking into account his mentality and social media persona, he should not be let anywhere near the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza619 View Post
    I know he gets a lot of hate around here most of it is kind of justified.

    Dont care what his strike rate or average is in international cricket, but I still rate him very highly. Its such a shame he has disappointed on so many occasions. The good thing from Ahmed Shehzad's perspective is that there is only one batting position confirmed in the Pakistan team and that is Babar Azam. All the other batting spots are debatable and so this keeps the door open for him.
    Do not see any reason to rate him highly.

    His shot range is limited. He cannot find gaps. Does not have a lot of cricketing acumen. Overrates himself and doesn’t know his own weaknesses

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    Interesting he mentions fear of failure - Its was clear to see in the later part of his career how timid and scared he was to play any shots.

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    If someone wants to understand what being a delusional person is they should read Ahmed Shehzad’s responses here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakhs View Post
    Interesting he mentions fear of failure - Its was clear to see in the later part of his career how timid and scared he was to play any shots.
    I'm not the biggest Shahzad fan, but if you have been dropped from the side multiple times, then you develop a fear of failure mindset and hence do not attempt risky shots.

    He was and is a good test batsman. He ought to have been given a longer run in this format.

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    As a shot maker, he is one of the best in the WORLD.

    He just can't put it all together and construct an innings well.

    Was just watching some of his batting. Some of the shots he plays are mindblowing. Was playing back foot cover drive piercing the gap for four against the likes of Jadeja, balls after coming down the track to him and hitting him off the front foot through cover.

    He has so much ability but cannot rotate strike or construct an innings properly.

    Still believe he has a part to play in test cricket.

    3 test tons. Averages 40.

    He's better than the likes of Joe Denly who are given long runs.

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    153 matches too many. He should've never played for Pakistan.


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    Would have been a lot better in Australia than the likes of Imam and Azhar 100000%

    Brilliant test batsman. I back him to average 40 in tests his entire career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullet Drive View Post
    As a shot maker, he is one of the best in the WORLD.

    He just can't put it all together and construct an innings well.

    Was just watching some of his batting. Some of the shots he plays are mindblowing. Was playing back foot cover drive piercing the gap for four against the likes of Jadeja, balls after coming down the track to him and hitting him off the front foot through cover.

    He has so much ability but cannot rotate strike or construct an innings properly.

    Still believe he has a part to play in test cricket.

    3 test tons. Averages 40.

    He's better than the likes of Joe Denly who are given long runs.
    You really do have an eye for mediocre players. Lmao one of the world best. He wasn't even in the top 10 best domestic openers this season. Hopefully we never see this person ever again in Pakistan colours. I am getting fed up even seeing him in domestics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    I challenge anyone to justify why he deserved to be dropped from the Test side without hiding behind his attitude and Limited Overs record.
    An away average of 27.85, and this is only having played in Asia and the Caribbean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    It was completely unfair to drop him from the Test side. The controversies regarding his attitude and the poor performances in Limited Overs cost him a place in the Test team which shouldn’t have happened.

    A Test average of 41 after 13 Tests with centuries against Sri Lanka, Australia and New Zealand (176) is an extremely impressive record for a rubbish team like Pakistan.

    Furthermore, Test cricket is easily his best format. He struggles to maintain a good SR and gets tied up in Limited Overs, but he has frequently shown his ability to occupy the crease and bat for long period of time.

    His temperament is definitely far superior than the likes of Umar, Maqsood and Amin etc., the other failed players of his generation.

    During his 2013-14 patch which was his most prolific in international cricket, he scored quite a few hundreds in all formats and would regularly bat for long periods of time.

    With a clearly impressive Test record, he has only played 2-3 Tests since 2014 and scored a 70 in his last Test in 2017.

    I challenge anyone to justify why he deserved to be dropped from the Test side without hiding behind his attitude and Limited Overs record.
    I would prefer him over the mediocre Shan Masood easily in the Test squad, if situation demands it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellipsism View Post
    An away average of 27.85, and this is only having played in Asia and the Caribbean.
    Not a justification at all. He has only played 7 away Tests and other openers have had far longer ropes.

    Shan Masood has played almost 20 Tests with his overall average almost identical to Shehzad’s away average based on 7 Tests.

    Imam is still in the Test squad having played almost as many Tests as Shehzad with an average of 25 (compared to Shehzad’s 40) and with 0 tons.

    As I said, there is no cricketing justification for dropping Shehzad from the Test side. No poor team will drop an opener who averages 40 after 13 Tests with a hundred against Australia and a 170+ against New Zealand.

    It is pure injustice, but people don’t consider it because they do not like Shehzad for multiple reasons and do not think that he can succeed in the long-term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mercurial View Post
    I would prefer him over the mediocre Shan Masood easily in the Test squad, if situation demands it.
    I would prefer him to open. Masood bats at 3 and Azhar calls it a day.

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    Him Umar and Kamran always have something to offer.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    More than 10 openers outscored him in the QEA Trophy. Blew his chance in the T20Is against SL.

    Barring some PSL heroics, he won't be getting a look in anytime soon.
    Just to elaborate on the QEA Trophy numbers.

    He made 463 runs this season in 13 innings (avg 38). But 200 (100 and 100*) came in Central Punjab's last group game which was essentially a dead rubber where the scores were 600, 400 and 300/1. 8 hundreds were hit in this match.

    Besides that, he scored 263 runs at an average of 24.

    Other openers:

    Imran Butt 934 runs @ 62
    Salman Butt 901 runs @ 75
    Sami Aslam 864 runs @ 79
    Zeeshan Malik 780 runs @ 52
    Umar Siddiq 650 runs @ 50
    Haider Ali 645 runs @ 50
    Umar Amin 612 runs @ 32
    Azhar Ali 598 runs @ 75
    Sahibzada Farhan 570 runs @ 41
    Israrullah 556 runs @ 43
    Khurram Manzoor 542 runs @ 39
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    It was completely unfair to drop him from the Test side. The controversies regarding his attitude and the poor performances in Limited Overs cost him a place in the Test team which shouldn’t have happened.

    A Test average of 41 after 13 Tests with centuries against Sri Lanka, Australia and New Zealand (176) is an extremely impressive record for a rubbish team like Pakistan.

    Furthermore, Test cricket is easily his best format. He struggles to maintain a good SR and gets tied up in Limited Overs, but he has frequently shown his ability to occupy the crease and bat for long period of time.

    His temperament is definitely far superior than the likes of Umar, Maqsood and Amin etc., the other failed players of his generation.

    During his 2013-14 patch which was his most prolific in international cricket, he scored quite a few hundreds in all formats and would regularly bat for long periods of time.

    With a clearly impressive Test record, he has only played 2-3 Tests since 2014 and scored a 70 in his last Test in 2017.

    I challenge anyone to justify why he deserved to be dropped from the Test side without hiding behind his attitude and Limited Overs record.
    That 70 had 4 dropped catches.

    He averages in 20s away despite only having played in Sri Lanka and the West Indies.

    In UAE he has good innings but those centuries were like the recent Masood century where everyone was scoring hundreds and we were putting up 600 run totals. Whenever there was a need for him to stand up he failed.

    And his last domestic season was mediocre too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anwar View Post
    I can’t remember the specific match but after he got hit on the head from a bouncer his batting was never the same again.

    He always seemed like he was playing for his place. It’s easier to score runs in domestic and he has done so at very good SR. But then the difference in class shows at international level.

    Even before taking into account his mentality and social media persona, he should not be let anywhere near the team.
    That match was against New Zealand in UAE and the bowler was Corey Sanderson.

    The delivery which hit his head was a 130kph delivery on a dead pitch.

    His ODI record before and after that concussion is similar. Heck he scored a century in his first international game after the hit.

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    Anyone with 150+ international matches has NO RIGHT to claim he was not given enough chances

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    That 70 had 4 dropped catches.

    He averages in 20s away despite only having played in Sri Lanka and the West Indies.

    In UAE he has good innings but those centuries were like the recent Masood century where everyone was scoring hundreds and we were putting up 600 run totals. Whenever there was a need for him to stand up he failed.

    And his last domestic season was mediocre too
    My point is that he has been treated differently. You cannot deny that there are clear inconsistencies in terms of the number of chances the likes of Masood and Imam have had compared to Shehzad.

    He got the shortest end of the stick amongst them all and it is clear that his poor performances in white ball cricket and his apparent attitude issues cost him a place in the Test XI/squad.

    Purely on cricketing merit, his axing from the Test squad is not justified at all when we have persisted with the likes of Masood and Imam.

    Shehzad has no one to blame if he doesn’t get another chance in white ball cricket. However, he has every reason to be disappointed with the way he has been treated in Test cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    My point is that he has been treated differently. You cannot deny that there are clear inconsistencies in terms of the number of chances the likes of Masood and Imam have had compared to Shehzad.

    He got the shortest end of the stick amongst them all and it is clear that his poor performances in white ball cricket and his apparent attitude issues cost him a place in the Test XI/squad.

    Purely on cricketing merit, his axing from the Test squad is not justified at all when we have persisted with the likes of Masood and Imam.

    Shehzad has no one to blame if he doesn’t get another chance in white ball cricket. However, he has every reason to be disappointed with the way he has been treated in Test cricket.
    It is true that Ahmed shehzad did not get as long a rope in test cricket as he did in limited overs cricket

    But in his last series before being dropped in 2015 he averaged 28.6 and in the same series Shan Masood made a match winning century so there was no way Masood wouldn’t retain his place for the next tour.

    When shehzad was recalled in 2017 he averaged 30 against the West Indies which included one fifty mentioned earlier that had several dropped chances.

    Shehzad’s only complaint can be that he didn’t get as long a rope in tests as he did in other formats and that’s not really a valid complaint.

    Finally. Everyone excluding Shehzad and his fan girls knows that by being dropped from series’ in England, Australia and South Africa was a blessing in disguise for him. The average he happily quotes would be in low 30s if he had played those series.

    These other openers can actually complain as to why they didn’t get the easy UAE series to pad their stats while shehzad did

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    It is true that Ahmed shehzad did not get as long a rope in test cricket as he did in limited overs cricket

    But in his last series before being dropped in 2015 he averaged 28.6 and in the same series Shan Masood made a match winning century so there was no way Masood wouldn’t retain his place for the next tour.

    When shehzad was recalled in 2017 he averaged 30 against the West Indies which included one fifty mentioned earlier that had several dropped chances.

    Shehzad’s only complaint can be that he didn’t get as long a rope in tests as he did in other formats and that’s not really a valid complaint.

    Finally. Everyone excluding Shehzad and his fan girls knows that by being dropped from series’ in England, Australia and South Africa was a blessing in disguise for him. The average he happily quotes would be in low 30s if he had played those series.

    These other openers can actually complain as to why they didn’t get the easy UAE series to pad their stats while shehzad did
    Prior to averaging 28 in the SL series in 2015, Shehzad averaged 48. Is it appropriate to drop a 48 averaging batsman after one bad series? Do the selectors apply the same standards to every player? Clearly not.

    Prior to that series, Masood averaged 20. So if we apply the same standards than Masood shouldn’t have been anywhere near the squad for that series.

    I completely agree that Shehzad wouldn’t have done well in England, South Africa and Australia. He clearly does not have the technique or the talent to excel in those countries, but how many Pakistani openers do? If we drop players for their overseas failures, we would hardly be able to pick two openers. The likes of Hafeez regularly got picked for overseas Tests in spite of having the worst record outside Asia in history.

    The likes of Masood and Imam cannot complain about not getting easy UAE series to pad stats. Masood averages 20 in the UAE and Imam averages 28, so they have clearly failed big time to boost their numbers in the UAE. In comparison, Shehzad capitalized and scored big hundreds.

    It is very unfair to say that Shehzad should not be disappointment about the way he has been treated in Test cricket. The selectors have clearly been extremely harsh and have not held him to the same standards as everyone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    The selectors have clearly been extremely harsh and have not held him to the same standards as everyone else.
    Good. That's the way how it should be because Shehzad deserves to get treated like that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    Just to elaborate on the QEA Trophy numbers.

    He made 463 runs this season in 13 innings (avg 38). But 200 (100 and 100*) came in Central Punjab's last group game which was essentially a dead rubber where the scores were 600, 400 and 300/1. 8 hundreds were hit in this match.

    Besides that, he scored 263 runs at an average of 24.

    Other openers:

    Imran Butt: 934 runs @ 62
    Salman Butt: 901 runs @ 75
    Sami Aslam 864 runs @ 79
    Zeeshan Malik 780 runs @ 52
    Umar Siddiq 650 runs @ 50
    Haider Ali 645 runs @ 50
    Umar Amin 612 runs @ 32
    Azhar Ali 598 runs @ 75
    Sahibzada Farhan 570 runs @ 41
    Israrullah 556 runs @ 43
    Khurram Manzoor 542 runs @ 39
    Excellent post. Thanks for sharing and I guess that makes it pretty clear that there are several guys who deserve a chance ahead of him at the moment.

    The only thing I would say is that there are several spots in the Pakistan batting line up for grabs. Only Babar Azam makes the list as a mandatory name. The Azhar Alis, the Haris Sohails, the Asad Shafiqs, the Shan Masoods, the Fakhar Zamans of this world are all living on a knife edge. So i will tell Shezzy to keep trying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    Just to elaborate on the QEA Trophy numbers.

    He made 463 runs this season in 13 innings (avg 38). But 200 (100 and 100*) came in Central Punjab's last group game which was essentially a dead rubber where the scores were 600, 400 and 300/1. 8 hundreds were hit in this match.

    Besides that, he scored 263 runs at an average of 24.

    Other openers:

    Imran Butt: 934 runs @ 62
    Salman Butt: 901 runs @ 75
    Sami Aslam 864 runs @ 79
    Zeeshan Malik 780 runs @ 52
    Umar Siddiq 650 runs @ 50
    Haider Ali 645 runs @ 50
    Umar Amin 612 runs @ 32
    Azhar Ali 598 runs @ 75
    Sahibzada Farhan 570 runs @ 41
    Israrullah 556 runs @ 43
    Khurram Manzoor 542 runs @ 39
    This is enough to show how mediocre this guy is despite playing on the best team.


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    In BPL but not played a single game as yet - not many games left in the tournament.


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    One of the most pampered people in PAK cricket.

    Given way too many chances than he deserved! And some people have the nerve to say he needs to be given more chances.

    Should never have played for PAK. Ruining our cricket since 2011. Has no shots, can't survive against half decent pacers, can't play spin at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chief Destroyer View Post


    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    Just to elaborate on the QEA Trophy numbers.

    He made 463 runs this season in 13 innings (avg 38). But 200 (100 and 100*) came in Central Punjab's last group game which was essentially a dead rubber where the scores were 600, 400 and 300/1. 8 hundreds were hit in this match.

    Besides that, he scored 263 runs at an average of 24.

    Other openers:


    Haider Ali 645 runs @ 50


    This is enough to show how mediocre this guy is despite playing on the best team.





    Like I said before, invest in a long term candidate and all theser fickle fans will forget Shehzad ever existed:

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    Should have been given a longer run in test cricket. He doesn't have the best shots but he's good at staying in and getting a big score, which he's done even in LOI, SR was the issue. I care more about what he can do in UAE/Asia than I do outside, and this guy has been performing in domestic for a decade, ever since he was young. Not just the good one season or two many others have had.

    Though I'd probably bring in Sami Aslam over him right now, given how he's piling runs on in domestic, his U19 exploits, and what he showed in England. And of course Abid deserves a longer run after hitting 2 centuries in a row.

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    Good player with a hardworking attitude. Look at his fitness, hes prolly one of the fittest cricketers out there.

    Should be part of our test squad with Azhar calling it a day and part of our LOI squad with Fakhar kicked out.

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    Inclusion in T20I side possible for Bangladesh series?


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Inclusion in T20I side possible for Bangladesh series?
    Would be difficult to justify considering he blew his chances against SRL.

    But considering how poor is Fakhar, maybe as a backup?

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    Shehzad just does not have the release shots against tight bowling . Very easily gets bogged down and puts pressure on his batting partner. I do think he was dropped a bit early because if waqar but I doubt he would have amounted to much in tests either. Won't be better than someone like Asad and Pakistan can't afford another Asad .

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    Lol at best shot maker. His strike rate in ODIs is less than even this guy

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    I don't really care what he says but PCBs selection policy is very weird , they kick out players from one format based on their failure in the other formats.

    In his last 10 test innings , he managed to average 40 plus.

    Yah he was failing in the other two formats but he didnt deserve to be dropped from test side.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Inclusion in T20I side possible for Bangladesh series?
    Hopefully never. This rubbish needs to be binned forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim View Post
    Good player with a hardworking attitude. Look at his fitness, hes prolly one of the fittest cricketers out there.

    Should be part of our test squad with Azhar calling it a day and part of our LOI squad with Fakhar kicked out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    Shehzad just does not have the release shots against tight bowling . Very easily gets bogged down and puts pressure on his batting partner. I do think he was dropped a bit early because if waqar but I doubt he would have amounted to much in tests either. Won't be better than someone like Asad and Pakistan can't afford another Asad .
    Lol he was done a favour by being dropped early. If he had played in England or Australia or South Africa his average would be low 30s

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    Quote Originally Posted by JibranAnsari View Post
    I don't really care what he says but PCBs selection policy is very weird , they kick out players from one format based on their failure in the other formats.

    In his last 10 test innings , he managed to average 40 plus.

    Yah he was failing in the other two formats but he didnt deserve to be dropped from test side.
    Agreed. Never understood how selection committees let performances in one format effect their opinion of players in the other formats too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    Lol he was done a favour by being dropped early. If he had played in England or Australia or South Africa his average would be low 30s
    Yes but he should have been given the chance to fail properly in SENA and let his test average drop significantly si that his supporters have no excuses left.

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    LOL. That's what he can give to Pakistan Cricket. Tested failure. Pathetic temperament. Show Off. I can't think of anyone much worse than this Drama Queen.

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    Ive no idea what makes people think he should be in the pakistan team for t20s Hes got a very mediocre intnl record in this format An avge of 26 and striking at 115 is extremely poor

    Hes a limited shot player with a high dot ball percentage and cant rotate strike to save his life Why is his name always mentioned whenever t20 squads are discussed?
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    I was shocked when i saw Ahsan Ali's batting average. I am with KP on this to be honest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaz View Post
    Ive no idea what makes people think he should be in the pakistan team for t20s Hes got a very mediocre intnl record in this format An avge of 26 and striking at 115 is extremely poor

    Hes a limited shot player with a high dot ball percentage and cant rotate strike to save his life Why is his name always mentioned whenever t20 squads are discussed?
    Have you seen our future star Ahsan Ali's domestic average in all formats?

    I am not saying to bring back Shehzad, but how can mediocre domestic player be picked ahead of Shezzy who lets be honest has shown spark occasionally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza619 View Post
    Have you seen our future star Ahsan Ali's domestic average in all formats?

    I am not saying to bring back Shehzad, but how can mediocre domestic player be picked ahead of Shezzy who lets be honest has shown spark occasionally.
    Whether or not ahsan is the real deal time will tell You cant judge a quality of a player off paper

    Shezad we know is not a suitable t20 player Hes proved it many times over the years

    Its high time pakistan moved on from this circle of going back time and time again

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    KP always backs his buddies no matter what they do. Don't take his opinion on his ex team mates seriously.

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    When 10 guys out score you & you still think of yourself as being close to selection!! Deluded .. I Still remember him 2009-10 in New Zealand what a player he looked , the swagger, the pull shots ahh.. the head knock really messed up his confidence & turned him into a selfie poser lol


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    Don’t think we’ll ever see him in the team

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    I think they keep him around cause he's a good example of what not to do.

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    I stopped reading after this comment

    ‘ For example, if you look at the number of international runs I have scored and add them to the ones that I scored in domestic cricket after being dropped from the Pakistan side, you will conclude that I could have scored all those runs for Pakistan had I been retained in the national side, and that would have been good for the country as well. ’

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    Well you made me read even this otherwise I didn't bother to go through after "I still have a lot to offer Pakistan cricket" : Ahmed Shehzad.

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    I stopped reading after this comment

    ‘ For example, if you look at the number of international runs I have scored and add them to the ones that I scored in domestic cricket after being dropped from the Pakistan side, you will conclude that I could have scored all those runs for Pakistan had I been retained in the national side, and that would have been good for the country as well. ’


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    Yes by playing tuk tuk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adzzy786 View Post
    I stopped reading after this comment

    ‘ For example, if you look at the number of international runs I have scored and add them to the ones that I scored in domestic cricket after being dropped from the Pakistan side, you will conclude that I could have scored all those runs for Pakistan had I been retained in the national side, and that would have been good for the country as well. ’
    lol this is just as hilarious as "My fifty is worth a hundred"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdul View Post
    Good. That's the way how it should be because Shehzad deserves to get treated like that.
    Cant wait for Shehzad to replace Azhar in the test team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    It was completely unfair to drop him from the Test side. The controversies regarding his attitude and the poor performances in Limited Overs cost him a place in the Test team which shouldn’t have happened.

    A Test average of 41 after 13 Tests with centuries against Sri Lanka, Australia and New Zealand (176) is an extremely impressive record for a rubbish team like Pakistan.

    Furthermore, Test cricket is easily his best format. He struggles to maintain a good SR and gets tied up in Limited Overs, but he has frequently shown his ability to occupy the crease and bat for long period of time.

    His temperament is definitely far superior than the likes of Umar, Maqsood and Amin etc., the other failed players of his generation.

    During his 2013-14 patch which was his most prolific in international cricket, he scored quite a few hundreds in all formats and would regularly bat for long periods of time.

    With a clearly impressive Test record, he has only played 2-3 Tests since 2014 and scored a 70 in his last Test in 2017.

    I challenge anyone to justify why he deserved to be dropped from the Test side without hiding behind his attitude and Limited Overs record.
    I fully agree with you. I also said the same thing when he wasn't finding place in test squad. His best and only format is test, and he is good enough to represent Pakistan in tests. And he is a good fielder too.

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    he is really an awful batsman.one of the worst player I have ever seen.He should have never been given chance to play for national team.He is just way too mediocre.He just doesn't have skills to play cricket.he should stop playing and do some other showbaazi.

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    He had so many chances to become a permanent opening batsman,but he messed up on so many occasions.I hope they keep him away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    lol this is just as hilarious as "My fifty is worth a hundred"
    Perfect example of a player who got too big for his boots, should have been dropped years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slim View Post
    Cant wait for Shehzad to replace Azhar in the test team.
    yes he can be azhar's inferior replacement


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    Shehzad's tragedy is that he averages what he does despite playing in only UAE, Sri Lanka and West Indies. And being part of teams which were putting 500+ regularly

    Only God knows how low his average would have gotten if he had played on 2 tours to England and in Australia and South Africa.

    He was done a favor by being dropped.


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    Can this PSL be the big season for him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Can this PSL be the big season for him?

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    Absolutely! I think Abdur Razzaq could be really useful to Quetta's middle order 😀

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    Horrible 12 off 12 balls today.

    Surely his spot in the QG team has to be under threat during the PSL.




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