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    People forget that Haris,Shaheen and Naseem have not played a lot of cricket.They are just starting their careers.Give them a couple years and they will become very good .

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    Give the guy some space.

    If we could give the likes of Rahat Ali so many chances, then this lad deserves more space and opportunities.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Give the guy some space.

    If we could give the likes of Rahat Ali so many chances, then this lad deserves more space and opportunities.
    I fink people prefer to have rahat and Musa

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    it's frustrating when you don't see results honestly especially when your team has been mediocre for so long.

    That's why shaheen gets lambasted despite being so young. They expect him to carry the team all by himself.

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    Excellent spell of 4/24 in 4 versus Southern Punjab



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    3/28 against KPK today.

    And here is how he has done in Nat T20 Cup in 2020:

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    3/28 against KPK today.

    And here is how he has done in Nat T20 Cup in 2020:

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    Those scorecards are just fantasy and not reality.

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    17 wickets in only 7 matches at an average of 11.05 and an economy rate of 7.23 are incredible numbers.

    Brilliant bowling from Haris.



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    Best bowler of the tournament so far and most importantly developing new skills in the repertoire like the outswinger.

    I also love his yorkers and he has a mean bouncer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    Best bowler of the tournament so far and most importantly developing new skills in the repertoire like the outswinger.

    I also love his yorkers and he has a mean bouncer.
    He always had the outswinger, right from his tape ball days.
    He was just never given the new ball to showcase it at this level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacy with wisdom View Post
    He always had the outswinger, right from his tape ball days.
    He was just never given the new ball to showcase it at this level.
    I suppose if it had been that good, the Qalandars would have had him take the new ball in the past - theyíve already put so much trust in him. Iíve seen him bowl within the first five overs before and itís never been this potent.

    Just reading between the lines; seems that even if heís already had it, there is definitely an upward trajectory which is a good sign. I enjoy that heís a multidimensional bowler and has the skills for different stages of the innings - Maxwell used him fantastically at the death in the BBL and now Northern is giving him the new ball.

    I can see him taking the new ball with Shaheen in limited overs in the future, and also taking the death overs with Shaheen. This sense of stability is good as weíre beginning to see more structure to the attack in the absence of Wahab and Amir.

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    He always had the outswinger but he wasn't able to swing it every time in every match , good to see he is improving now.

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    A t20 attack of Shaheen , Rauf , Akif/Amir/Wahab ,Shadab/Imad and Yamin/Butt seems mouth watering.

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    I struggle to comprehend why so many people criticise him.

    He's still new to international cricket and is learning. So far he has been very good.



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    He can be a good option for LO.

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    Happy birthday to Haris Rauf - 27 years old- clock ticking away - needs to be someone special in next 1-2 years if he is looking for a longer international career.


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    No idea why he was so insistent on a review Haris but Babar needs to reign him in.


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    Is awful in the field. Doesn't even put an effort while fielding. Needs danda and proper training.
    This "jaan maaro" type of coaches aren't going to improve our players.

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    Bowled well yet again.


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    Not convinced by his efforts in this series.
    This is why you need to be technically strong so that your rhythm is consistent and replicable through a process.
    He has tremendous raw ability but he needs to sort out his issues.

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    Bowled well today I thought apart from the last over where he bowled a couple of poor deliveries that went for plenty.

    I think sometimes he tries to overdo the variety of deliveries.

    But we keep forgetting just how raw he is, give him a chance.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Bowled well today I thought apart from the last over where he bowled a couple of poor deliveries that went for plenty.

    I think sometimes he tries to overdo the variety of deliveries.

    But we keep forgetting just how raw he is, give him a chance.
    He needs work on his action. He cant try to bowl 145 kph with just arm speed.
    The arm can only take so much. The runup, strides and non bowling arm, all need to come in to share that load.

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    Haris was spotted by Aqib Javed three years ago.
    Had he been drafted into one of the first class
    teams in 2017 he would have gained a lot of experience
    and his body would have been stronger.He has played no first class
    cricket.People are expecting him to be a world class bowler straight
    away.If he works hard he can play for Pakistan for 5-6 years.

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    Watched the highlights and looks as if his pace is significantly down. Lots of 132-134 kph balls and hardly anything in excess of 140 (and that too just 142-143 kph).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacy with wisdom View Post
    He needs work on his action. He cant try to bowl 145 kph with just arm speed.
    The arm can only take so much. The runup, strides and non bowling arm, all need to come in to share that load.
    The problem is he is now 27 and to make drastic changes will be difficult at this stage of his career.

    Perhaps a few tweaks here and there might work for him though.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellipsism View Post
    Watched the highlights and looks as if his pace is significantly down. Lots of 132-134 kph balls and hardly anything in excess of 140 (and that too just 142-143 kph).
    Same with Hasnain. Max pace at 145

    They have been told to focus on line and length more than spraying it around at 150

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    His fielding is atrocious

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    he had a huge Big Bash and that really created a lot of hype around him.

    Since then, in domestic and playing for Pakistan he has been really disappointing. Husnain, Musa, Naseem have all outperformed Rauf

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
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    No idea why he was so insistent on a review Haris but Babar needs to reign him in.
    Agree but it's good it happened today against Zim, now newt time Rauf will not try to convince Babar into it.
    Shameful Review.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellipsism View Post
    Watched the highlights and looks as if his pace is significantly down. Lots of 132-134 kph balls and hardly anything in excess of 140 (and that too just 142-143 kph).
    I did see one ball at 146.2 kph

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    The problem is he is now 27 and to make drastic changes will be difficult at this stage of his career.

    Perhaps a few tweaks here and there might work for him though.
    He doesn't have to do a complete shift. All he needs is a couple of small adjustments.
    First of all, he needs good momentum in his run up, with the final few strides longer so that he doesn't only have to rely on that whip at the last moment to generate pace.
    This is easily fixable and can be achieved in just a month or two.

    Also he needs to pull down with his non bowling arm much better. At the moment he isnt doing that well enough despite having a solid delivery base.
    This will make him a lot more stable in his action and follow through.
    Furthermore these changes will make his pace and direction a lot more consistent and he wont have to pick and choose between going for pace or accuracy as he is presently having to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coy0607 View Post
    he had a huge Big Bash and that really created a lot of hype around him.

    Since then, in domestic and playing for Pakistan he has been really disappointing. Husnain, Musa, Naseem have all outperformed Rauf
    He was the best bowler behind Shaheen in the national T20, what are you on about?

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    Unfair to criticise him on domestic performance. He's a T-20 bowler primarily and needs to work hard to improve himself in ODI's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coy0607 View Post
    he had a huge Big Bash and that really created a lot of hype around him.

    Since then, in domestic and playing for Pakistan he has been really disappointing. Husnain, Musa, Naseem have all outperformed Rauf
    Thatís not true. He was the top wicket taker in the National T20 tournament after Shaheen. After Shaheen and Rauf, there was a significant gap in statistics, followed by the names you mentioned.

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    He doesn't have to do a complete shift. All he needs is a couple of small adjustments.
    That's what I said.



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    Quote Originally Posted by coy0607 View Post
    he had a huge Big Bash and that really created a lot of hype around him.

    Since then, in domestic and playing for Pakistan he has been really disappointing. Husnain, Musa, Naseem have all outperformed Rauf
    Hes done decently in the few chances hes had and bowled really well in the national cup

    How has musa outperformed him?? Musa hasnt done anything of the sort and if anything is the weakest link of the current bowlers pakistan has been trying
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    Quote Originally Posted by coy0607 View Post
    he had a huge Big Bash and that really created a lot of hype around him.

    Since then, in domestic and playing for Pakistan he has been really disappointing. Husnain, Musa, Naseem have all outperformed Rauf
    He performed well in the national cup second highest wicket taker he just need to work on a few aspects of his game and play longer format

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    3/31 today.

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    Good variety today again.

    Mixed up his lengths nicely.



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    He seems very good and consistent in this format

    He just needs to translate this to the odi format and we ll have a very good bowler on our hands

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    3/31 today.
    His best figures in international cricket.



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    That last over today in the PSL against PZ was awful.

    Bowling length on off stump when your third man is in. No yorkers, just nice friendly in the slot bowling.



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    Brilliant from Haris today (3/29 in 4 overs) and should get better in the next game vs NZ


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    Street cricketer outperforming everyone's favourite tonight

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Brilliant from Haris today (3/29 in 4 overs) and should get better in the next game vs NZ
    Always does his job yet some fans dont like him just because hes thoda sa badtameez

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    Is a must in the attack, offers reverse swing at high pace

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    So the street cricketer does well again. Mamoon is no where to be seen near this thread.

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    Listen to me now so that you donít complain later and act surprised and disappointed.

    Rauf will cost Pakistan in the long-term. Donít be fooled by a few random performances.

    He has no proper cricket experience and his attitude is poor. He will always be on the cusp of getting smashed for 50+ runs and losing Pakistan the game.

    Pakistan needs proper bowlers and he isnít one. He is not going to transform our bowling in Limited Overs and he will not have the career his fans are fantasizing.

    If he is the best we have got then we are in deeper trouble than I think. It is hard to believe that in spite of the talent crisis in Pakistan today, we canít find proper bowlers and have to rely on street cricketers like him.

    He has no Plan B and if his usual stuff doesnít work he has nowhere to hide. One day, someone will get hold of him and his international career will end. It will be better if Pakistan start to plan ahead from now on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Listen to me now so that you don’t complain later and act surprised and disappointed.

    Rauf will cost Pakistan in the long-term. Don’t be fooled by a few random performances.

    He has no proper cricket experience and his attitude is poor. He will always be on the cusp of getting smashed for 50+ runs and losing Pakistan the game.

    Pakistan needs proper bowlers and he isn’t one. He is not going to transform our bowling in Limited Overs and he will not have the career his fans are fantasizing.

    If he is the best we have got then we are in deeper trouble than I think. It is hard to believe that in spite of the talent crisis in Pakistan today, we can’t find proper bowlers and have to rely on street cricketers like him.

    He has no Plan B and if his usual stuff doesn’t work he has nowhere to hide. One day, someone will get hold of him and his international career will end. It will be better if Pakistan start to plan ahead from now on.
    Who would you suggest should be ahead of him in the pecking order?


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    He bowled one wicket taking delivery from which he didn't get a wicket. It seems he gets lucky with whichever wickets he does get. Top quality batsmen will feast on him day in day out.

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    I think our street cricketer will do just fine in the t20 WC. He's got pace, fire in his belly and enough variation to make it work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Listen to me now so that you don’t complain later and act surprised and disappointed.

    Rauf will cost Pakistan in the long-term. Don’t be fooled by a few random performances.

    He has no proper cricket experience and his attitude is poor. He will always be on the cusp of getting smashed for 50+ runs and losing Pakistan the game.

    Pakistan needs proper bowlers and he isn’t one. He is not going to transform our bowling in Limited Overs and he will not have the career his fans are fantasizing.

    If he is the best we have got then we are in deeper trouble than I think. It is hard to believe that in spite of the talent crisis in Pakistan today, we can’t find proper bowlers and have to rely on street cricketers like him.

    He has no Plan B and if his usual stuff doesn’t work he has nowhere to hide. One day, someone will get hold of him and his international career will end. It will be better if Pakistan start to plan ahead from now on.
    Least surprising thing I have read today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaddy86 View Post
    He bowled one wicket taking delivery from which he didn't get a wicket. It seems he gets lucky with whichever wickets he does get. Top quality batsmen will feast on him day in day out.
    What wicket taking deliveres did new New Zealand get ?

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    Excellent spell of bowling used the short ball quite well and changed his length when required i love his aggression

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    Quality performer

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    Haris Rauf troubling Kane Williamson

    Never see Williamson troubled by a Pak baller recently so much. Pak need to manage Haris's workload. Beautiful out swing and in swing he got today. Shaheen and Rauf is a great new ball combo. If only Shaheen can learn out swing

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    And now Williamson showed him his level. He is a tape ball bowler not international standard pacer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    And now Williamson showed him his level. He is a tape ball bowler not international standard pacer.
    Your Top 3 world keeper gave Williamson a chance when he was on 0


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    And now Williamson showed him his level. He is a tape ball bowler not international standard pacer.
    So i guess half of these bowlers were also tape ball cricketers as proven by Professor Hafeez? You have good days and you have bad days. Rauf was expensive but was not murdered.



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    I think Mamoon has it in him for Street cricketers because the streets doesn’t accept softies

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza619 View Post
    So i guess half of these bowlers were also tape ball cricketers as proven by Professor Hafeez? You have good days and you have bad days. Rauf was expensive but was not murdered.



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    Are you comparing Rauf to Boult and Southee? Seriously?

    Rauf will never have a successful internationally career. He has no proper cricket experience and he is 27 already, and mind you, Pakistani 27.

    He is a failed investment and Pakistan will eventually realize it but as usual, they will do it the hard way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Your Top 3 world keeper gave Williamson a chance when he was on 0
    No keeper in the world could have reached that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angrypathan View Post
    No keeper in the world could have reached that.
    Rizwan fans at it again...

    It was either the keepers catch or the 1st slips. Considering he is the ‘top 3’ keeper of the world he let it go

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Rizwan fans at it again...

    It was either the keepers catch or the 1st slips. Considering he is the ‘top 3’ keeper of the world he let it go
    It was nowhere near the keeper. He could be the greatest keeper of all time and it wouldn't make a difference unless he happened to be 3 feet taller. As it happens, I don't even want Rizwan in the T20 team.

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    The pace and bounce he generated on a helpful deck was impressive but he seems to be a brainless bowler.


    'There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    The pace and bounce he generated on a helpful deck was impressive but he seems to be a brainless bowler.
    Agreed. He'll be fine in t20 but should probably stay away from anything longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    And now Williamson showed him his level. He is a tape ball bowler not international standard pacer.
    Mamoon the troll didnít like the fact that Rauf worked over on the best in the game & created a chance , you are so ridiculous in your blatant dislike for most of the Pakistani players 🤦🏽*♂️

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Rizwan fans at it again...

    It was either the keepers catch or the 1st slips. Considering he is the Ďtop 3í keeper of the world he let it go
    There was a slip, but he wasnít standing at first slip, if he was it wouldíve went down his throat.

    It wasnít the keepers catch either, Iím not a fan of Rizwan in white ball cricket but no keeper in the world couldíve caught that. Take into consideration the speed of which the ball went at, and the camera angle which always looks deceiving, for example, from front on angle it would look like the keeper is only standing 3-4 metres back, where in fact theyíre actually standing around 10m back.


    Bring Back Umar Akmal

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitthestump View Post
    Agreed. He'll be fine in t20 but should probably stay away from anything longer.
    I'd say he can make it in ODIs as well but he'll have to be a bit less predictable.


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    Overrated or not, he is the second best LOI fast bowler in Pakistan.

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    This is gonna be one of those threads that gets bumped every single time he does well or fails

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Rizwan fans at it again...

    It was either the keepers catch or the 1st slips. Considering he is the ‘top 3’ keeper of the world he let it go
    it was more first slip catch however you would expect your keeper to go for it.rizwan is the best keeper in pakistan but thats about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by YousafTheBeast View Post
    There was a slip, but he wasn’t standing at first slip, if he was it would’ve went down his throat.

    It wasn’t the keepers catch either, I’m not a fan of Rizwan in white ball cricket but no keeper in the world could’ve caught that. Take into consideration the speed of which the ball went at, and the camera angle which always looks deceiving, for example, from front on angle it would look like the keeper is only standing 3-4 metres back, where in fact they’re actually standing around 10m back.
    Even if it wasnt keepers catch and becouse the first slip wasnt standing at first slip the keeper has to go for it

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    the over he bowled to williamson was very impressive.got good bounce and carry from the wicket an upgrade on wahab

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    2nd highest wicket-taker in T20Is this year:

    Ngidi 17
    Haris Rauf 16



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    One of those threads that will remain silent when he does well and get bumped when he doesnít.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    2nd highest wicket-taker in T20Is this year:

    Ngidi 17
    Haris Rauf 16
    Mamoon says he would be exposed soon for being just a street cricketer. Still waiting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza619 View Post
    Mamoon says he would be exposed soon for being just a street cricketer. Still waiting.
    let him continue waiting

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazza619 View Post
    Mamoon says he would be exposed soon for being just a street cricketer. Still waiting.
    Mamoon also said babar and haris are mental midgets.


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