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  1. #81
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    Cases have now touched 2k
    Last edited by GBK_Fan; 17th March 2020 at 20:33. Reason: Typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by globalcitizen View Post
    Already fears of job losses expected and large number of business under strain to operate in many countries. This is escalating to unimaginable proportions and recession seems very evident now!
    Given that a very very small fraction of the world population is infected and the survival rate is high, it really leads anyone with common sense to understand the powers that be wanted and forced this recession.

    A lot of people will lose jobs, homes and some will take their own lives because these monsters have created a huge issue out of this.

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    Complete hypocrisy by some. Everyone that knows their assets and cash flow is insured have no issues to shut down their work/business and they do not mind if this is shut down for many months if not years as long as their businesses are getting paid by the insurers

    Hate this world!

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    The number of confirmed coronavirus cases in the UK has reached 1,950 - up 407 in the past 24 hours and a rise of 26%.

    The latest confirmed number of deaths will be announced later today. As it stands, there have been 56 reported deaths.

    As of 9am on Tuesday 50,442 people were tested for coronavirus in the UK and 48,492 tested negative.

    The latest figures come after the government ramped up measures against the coronavirus pandemic following new predictions that the UK could otherwise have seen 250,000 deaths.

    A new document published by the COVID-19 team at London's Imperial College - which is advising the government on its coronavirus response - warns the current public health threat is the "most serious" from a respiratory virus since the Spanish Flu in 1918.

    They advised the UK adopts a strategy of "epidemic suppression" - for a period of potentially 18 months or more - rather than "mitigation".

    Modelling of the "most effective" mitigation strategy examined had revealed that NHS capacities could be exceeded by at least eightfold - and about 250,000 people could die.

    Why did the government change its stance?
    The Imperial team described the suppression of the coronavirus outbreak as "the only viable strategy at the current time" - even if the "social and economic effects of the measures which are needed to achieve this policy goal will be profound".

    On Monday, Prime Minister Boris Johnson announced a significant escalation of UK measures in response to coronavirus, including advising everyone in the country to avoid pubs, clubs, restaurants and theatres and to only make essential journeys.

    Britons have been advised to avoid all non-essential foreign travel for 30 days as the coronavirus pandemic continues.

    Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab said the "fast-changing international circumstances" of the worldwide outbreak of COVID-19 required changes to the official travel advice.

    "The FCO [Foreign and Commonwealth Office] will always consider the safety and the security of British nationals, so with immediate effect I've taken the decision to advise British nationals against non-essential travel globally for an initial period of 30 days and of course subject to ongoing review," he told MPs in the Commons.

    The number of confirmed coronavirus cases worldwide now stands at more than 185,000 and there are more than 7,300 deaths.

    https://news.sky.com/story/uk-corona...hours-11958875


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    NHS England is to suspend all non-urgent surgery for three months from 15 April in a bid to free up staff and beds to deal with the coronavirus outbreak.

    The health service announced plans to cancel all routine surgery and send as many patients as possible home, with the aim of freeing up a third of the 100,000 hospital beds in England.

    Sir Simon Stevens, the head of NHS England, said the goal was to try and stop the healthcare system becoming overwhelmed during a potential surge of COVID-19 cases.

    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...-beds-11959160


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    The chief executives and chairs of Heathrow, Gatwick and Manchester airports and the Airport Operators Association (AOA) have warned that the coronavirus crisis may result in airports grinding to a halt within weeks without government support.

    In a letter to the Prime Minister, the directors say that 'traffic has fallen dramatically and is going down day by day'.

    They continue: 'The impact on the hundreds of thousands of people, either employed by us directly or through the SMEs and supply chains that serve our customers, is massive, real and happening at speed.

    'These jobs have instantly been put at very real risk. We may have to close passenger facilities and halt operations.'

    The letter pleas for the government to make Britain's airports a top priority.

    It says: 'The decisions that are taken now will dictate the speed of the economic recovery when it comes and we will need to be at the heart of it. The Secretary of State has said he will be meeting the airlines.

    'We would ask he also urgently meets with us this week and that our needs are made an immediate priority for the "Economic and Business Response Committee" that the Chancellor is establishing today.'

    The signatories of the letter are Stewart Wingate, CEO of Gatwick, and Sir David Higgins, Chair of Gatwick; John Holland-Kaye, CEO of Heathrow, and Lord Paul Deighton, Chair of Heathrow; Charlie Cornish, CEO of Manchester Airport, and Sir Adrian Montague, Chair of Manchester Airport, and Karen Dee, CEO of AOA, and Ruby McGregor-Smith, Chair of AOA.

    In a separate AOA statement, Ms Dee said it was essential that airport businesses remain operating and are able to 'weather this storm so that they can provide the connectivity which drives growth, employment and prosperity after the crisis has abated'.

    She wrote: 'Governments across the world are supporting their national aviation industries, as many parts of the global travel industry have come to a halt. As some airlines call on the UK Government to act similarly, we are clear that airports will shut down in weeks unless urgent action is taken to support the industry.

    'Due to the fixed costs of operating airports, the government will need to provide additional support.

    'The government must step in to see airports across the four home nations through the current crisis, and make an unequivocal commitment to doing whatever it takes to sustain the UK aviation industry.'

    Ms Dee released a list of things the Airport Operators Association, which represents over 50 of the UK's biggest airports, believes the government should be doing immediately.

    These are - be prepared to provide/organise emergency financing as a measure of last resort; require banks to temporarily not enforce financial performance-based banking covenants; suspend business rates and other government and local government rates and taxes on airports; deferral of payments of all VAT, corporation tax and other taxes for the duration of global flight restrictions; share the employment cost of airport staff laid off throughout the crisis; suspend regulatory costs on airports where possible; indefinitely postpone major increases to those regulatory costs, such as the Next Generation Security Checkpoint and provide relief from airport policing costs.

    She added: 'For the sake of the UK economy it is essential for the UK government to catch-up to its peers across the continent and provide support to the sector and the wider economy through financing, guarantees, grants and tax relief.

    'Finally, to help kickstart aviation again once the pandemic is retreating, the government should suspend Air Passenger Duty for six months.'

    Meanwhile, Airports Council International (ACI) for Europe has warned that airports across the continent are bracing themselves for a 'near-total collapse' of traffic, connectivity and revenues.

    In a letter to EU transport ministers and the EU commission, ACI Europe president Jost Lammers said that passenger traffic at EU/EEA/Swiss and UK airports decreased on average by 54 per cent last week, down from 24 per cent the preceding week.

    Be prepared to provide/organise emergency financing as a measure of last resort.

    Require banks to temporarily not enforce financial performance-based banking covenants.

    Suspend business rates and other government and local government rates and taxes on airports.

    Deferral of payments of all VAT, corporation tax and other taxes for the duration of global flight restrictions.

    Share the employment cost of airport staff laid off throughout the crisis.

    Suspend regulatory costs on airports where possible.

    Indefinitely postpone major increases to those regulatory costs, such as the Next Generation Security Checkpoint.

    Provide relief from airport policing costs.

    Source: Airport Operators Association

    And now it estimates that these airports will collectively lose over 100 million passengers in the first quarter of this year, compared to a business as usual scenario.

    He wrote: 'The situation keeps worsening. As more countries both in the EU and beyond are adopting travel and flight bans, the proposal for a ban on entry into the Schengen area and with most European countries likely to go into lock-downs similar to Italy, airlines are further accelerating drastic capacity cuts and route cancellations to limit their financial exposure. Some are even shutting down all operations.

    'This means that Europe’s airports are now bracing for a near-total collapse of their traffic, connectivity and revenues. Indeed, the dramatic state of Italian airports gives an indication of what lies ahead for airports across the continent. Over the past days, passenger traffic at Italian airports went into a free-fall, decreasing by more than 90 per cent.

    'For airports, falling passenger traffic immediately translates into lost aeronautical and non-aeronautical revenues which they rely upon to operate, maintain and develop their facilities.

    'For now, ACI Europe’s revised forecast shows Europe’s airports losing €2 billion in revenue just in the first quarter of the year (before even factoring in the ban on entry into the Schengen area). These losses will further deepen in the coming months.

    'All European airports are currently rushing through extensive cost containment measures including unpaid leave for staff, temporary layoffs, corporate travel restrictions, ending consultancy and external contracts, closure of terminals where technically possible, reduction and suspension of investments.'

    The warnings come amid 1,543 cases of coronavirus being diagnosed in the UK, with 55 deaths.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...osses-say.html


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  7. #87
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    UK aiming for under 20,000 deaths from virus: government chief scientist

    LONDON (Reuters) - Britain hopes the measures it has taken to tackle coronavirus mean it will have below 20,000 deaths from the outbreak, the governent’s chief scientific adviser Patrick Vallance said on Tuesday.

    On Monday, the government ramped up its battle against the virus, shutting down social life in Britain and ordering the most vulnerable to isolate for 12 weeks.

    Vallance said the impact of the measures on the number of infections should be seen in two to three weeks. Based on the modelling being used by the government, it is a “reasonable ballpark” that Britain actually has around 55,000 cases of the virus, compared to the 1,543 confirmed by testing, he said.

    He told a committee of lawmakers when asked about deaths: “If we can get this down to 20,000 and below, that is a good outcome in terms of where we would hope to get to with this outbreak. It is still horrible, it is still an enormous number of deaths and it is an enormous pressure on the health service.”

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN2142M5


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    UK aiming for under 20,000 deaths from virus: government chief scientist

    LONDON (Reuters) - Britain hopes the measures it has taken to tackle coronavirus mean it will have below 20,000 deaths from the outbreak, the governent’s chief scientific adviser Patrick Vallance said on Tuesday.

    On Monday, the government ramped up its battle against the virus, shutting down social life in Britain and ordering the most vulnerable to isolate for 12 weeks.

    Vallance said the impact of the measures on the number of infections should be seen in two to three weeks. Based on the modelling being used by the government, it is a “reasonable ballpark” that Britain actually has around 55,000 cases of the virus, compared to the 1,543 confirmed by testing, he said.

    He told a committee of lawmakers when asked about deaths: “If we can get this down to 20,000 and below, that is a good outcome in terms of where we would hope to get to with this outbreak. It is still horrible, it is still an enormous number of deaths and it is an enormous pressure on the health service.”

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN2142M5
    What the hell man.

    How are UK people ok with this?

    Why isn't there proyests?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    UK aiming for under 20,000 deaths from virus: government chief scientist

    LONDON (Reuters) - Britain hopes the measures it has taken to tackle coronavirus mean it will have below 20,000 deaths from the outbreak, the governent’s chief scientific adviser Patrick Vallance said on Tuesday.

    On Monday, the government ramped up its battle against the virus, shutting down social life in Britain and ordering the most vulnerable to isolate for 12 weeks.

    Vallance said the impact of the measures on the number of infections should be seen in two to three weeks. Based on the modelling being used by the government, it is a “reasonable ballpark” that Britain actually has around 55,000 cases of the virus, compared to the 1,543 confirmed by testing, he said.

    He told a committee of lawmakers when asked about deaths: “If we can get this down to 20,000 and below, that is a good outcome in terms of where we would hope to get to with this outbreak. It is still horrible, it is still an enormous number of deaths and it is an enormous pressure on the health service.”

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN2142M5
    They are taking the ******* ****. First Boris clown saying that "Be prepared to lose your loved ones" and now this crap.

    This idiotic Tories government is waiting for the things to get as bad as they are in Italy before they do something. UK should already be in lockdown, but instead many people still have to go to work, using public transport (best way to contract Covid 19), schools and universities are still open. Idiot Boris is urging everyone to avoid pubs, cinemas and not travel, but he doesn't realise that many of us have to travel for work or school. We don't have a choice!

    This government is a shambles. Even Trump has done more to try to combat the Covid 19 than Boris Johnson.

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    £330bn of government-backed loans to support businesses as part of "unprecedented package"

    Tesco reportedly set to cut opening times of 24-hour stores so they trade between 6am and 10pm

    Business rates holiday extended to all companies in hospitality sector

    Three-month mortgage holiday for households in financial difficulty due to coronavirus

    Cash grants of up to £25,000 to smaller businesses in retail, hospitality and leisure sectors

    Britons advised to avoid all non-essential foreign travel for 30 days due to coronavirus

    Fourteen more deaths in England, bringing total number of fatalities in UK to 71

    There has been a second death in Scotland and also a second death in Wales

    UK may have up to 55,000 coronavirus cases already, says chief scientific adviser

    Sir Patrick Vallance says 20,000 deaths or below 'would be a good outcome'


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    McDonalds has confirmed from 5am on Wednesday morning all restaurants in the UK and Ireland will close seating areas and temporarily move to being takeaway, drive-through and delivery operations only to deal with the COVID-19 outbreak

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    So the government is giving away loans and unprecedented business rate breaks...
    A Tory government mortgaging not our children but our children’s children’s future...

    I think we should all be extremely worried.....

    Be safe

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMMY69 View Post
    So the government is giving away loans and unprecedented business rate breaks...
    A Tory government mortgaging not our children but our children’s children’s future...

    I think we should all be extremely worried.....

    Be safe
    Its a game to these clowns. They are not sitting down in Cobra meetings looking at ways to save lives or save jobs. They are sitting around looking at ways to help insurance companies, banks, healthcare companies.

    Did you see Trumps presser the other day? 6/7 managers of health companies were smiling and taking turns to address the people. It was like an advert on tv. lol.

    These people aren't bad people....they are evil people. Shame many in the UK and most in the US are too stupid and brainwashed to understand this.


    Lions don't lose sleep over the opinions of Sheep

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMMY69 View Post
    So the government is giving away loans and unprecedented business rate breaks...
    A Tory government mortgaging not our children but our children’s children’s future...

    I think we should all be extremely worried.....

    Be safe
    Tories are Tories at the end of the day. Your children or anyone else's aren't ever the main concern.


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    What exactly do people want the government to do?

    Shut schools down so kids can stay at home and do what?? What about NHS workers, how do they look after their kids?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMMY69 View Post
    So the government is giving away loans and unprecedented business rate breaks...
    A Tory government mortgaging not our children but our children’s children’s future...

    I think we should all be extremely worried.....

    Be safe
    Without access to the new financial support package, many businesses will go under altogether in the next couple of months - surely that would a worse scenario than anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    What exactly do people want the government to do?

    Shut schools down so kids can stay at home and do what?? What about NHS workers, how do they look after their kids?
    Today, many teachers were not at their respective due to the advice given by the government. In one school, around 20 students were sent home as they showed symptoms.

    Itís not possible to run schools when most teachers are at home for 7 days.

    The kids of the NHS workers will have to be dealt with but a school isnít a childcare centre nor are the teachers babysitters so stop treating them as such

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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    Without access to the new financial support package, many businesses will go under altogether in the next couple of months - surely that would a worse scenario than anything else.
    Sorry I think my post wasn’t clear.

    I know some people who still don’t realise the magnitude of what’s happening here in the UK and around the world. When you see Johnson looking old and gaunt on tv and the chancellor giving away £350b then you simply have to accept how bad it really is....

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    Prime Minister Boris Johnson says the NHS is moving to 25,000 coronavirus tests a day


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    A total of 71 people have died after contracting coronavirus, with 1,950 confirmed cases.

    London is the worst-affected part of the country, and Sky News analysis shows 25 deaths have been in the capital. Ten deaths have also been recorded in the West Midlands.

    On Tuesday, the number of fatalities in England increased by 14. NHS England said those who died were aged between 45 and 93 and all had underlying health conditions.

    As of 9am on Tuesday morning, the number of confirmed coronavirus cases in the UK had risen by 407 over a 24-hour period.

    An estimated 621 cases are in London, representing 32% of cases nationwide.

    The latest figures come after the government ramped up measures against the coronavirus pandemic following new predictions that the UK could otherwise have seen 250,000 deaths.

    A new document published by the COVID-19 team at London's Imperial College - which is advising the government on its coronavirus response - warns the current public health threat is the "most serious" from a respiratory virus since the Spanish Flu in 1918.

    Modelling of the "most effective" mitigation strategy examined had revealed that NHS capacities could be exceeded by at least eightfold - and about 250,000 people could die.

    The Imperial team described the suppression of the coronavirus outbreak as "the only viable strategy at the current time" - even if the "social and economic effects of the measures which are needed to achieve this policy goal will be profound".

    On Monday, Prime Minister Boris Johnson announced a significant escalation of UK measures in response to coronavirus, including advising everyone in the country to avoid pubs, clubs, restaurants and theatres and to only make essential journeys.

    Britons have been advised to avoid all non-essential foreign travel for 30 days as the coronavirus pandemic continues.

    Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab said the "fast-changing international circumstances" of the worldwide outbreak of COVID-19 required changes to the official travel advice.

    "The FCO [Foreign and Commonwealth Office] will always consider the safety and the security of British nationals, so with immediate effect I've taken the decision to advise British nationals against non-essential travel globally for an initial period of 30 days and of course subject to ongoing review," he told MPs in the Commons.

    The number of confirmed coronavirus cases worldwide now stands at more than 185,000 and there are more than 7,300 deaths.

    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...eaths-11958875


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    UK education secretary to make statement at 17:00GMT

    The UK government's Education Secretary, Gavin Williamson - responsible for the system in England - will make a statement in the House of Commons at 17:00GMT.

    In the past hour the governments in both Wales and Scotland have both said their schools would be closing by the end of the week.


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    Thirty-two more people have died in England after testing positive for coronavirus - taking the total number of UK deaths to 104.

    It follows the biggest daily leap in confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the UK after 676 infections were diagnosed in the last 24 hours.

    Ninety-nine patients diagnosed with COVID-19 in England have now died.

    The latest 32 patients to die were aged between 59 and 94 and had underlying health conditions, NHS England said.

    Nearly a third of the new deaths in England (10) were at hospitals in London - the worst-affected part of the UK.

    Earlier, the death of a third patient who had tested positive for COVID-19 in Scotland was confirmed.

    More than 200,000 cases have been confirmed worldwide, according to Johns Hopkins University, which is monitoring the outbreak.

    The government's chief scientific adviser, Sir Patrick Vallance, has suggested there could be as many as 55,000 coronavirus cases already in the UK and 20,000 deaths or below would be a "good outcome".

    As of 9am on Wednesday, 56,221 people had been tested for the virus in the UK, of which 53,595 were negative.

    There are now 227 confirmed positive cases of COVID-19 across Scotland, while the number of confirmed cases in Northern Ireland has risen by six to 68.

    In Wales, a further 13 people have been diagnosed with the virus, bringing the total number of confirmed cases there to 149.

    The youngest person to die in the UK after testing positive for coronavirus has been named as 45-year-old Craig Rushton, from Kettering, who had been fighting motor neurone disease.

    Prime Minister Boris Johnson announced a significant escalation of UK measures in response to coronavirus earlier this week, including advising everyone in the country to avoid pubs, clubs, restaurants and theatres and to only make essential journeys.

    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...o-104-11959809


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    Lockdown in Italy hasn’t slowed down the death rate....

    Shocking

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    18th March 2020

    Schools closed from Friday afternoon

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    Stupid, Stupid decision

    Why is this government so scared of the public!

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMMY69 View Post
    Lockdown in Italy hasn’t slowed down the death rate....

    Shocking
    Exactly

    These fools have it all wrong. Panic buying, hoarding, schools being shut down, recreation being ceased

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    Education Secretary Gavin Williamson says schools in England will close from Friday until further notice for all pupils except children of key workers and the most vulnerable


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    GCSEs and A-Levels have been cancelled apparently.

    Wow. I didnít expect this.

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    Absolute disaster

    Feel so sorry for children aged 16-18

    This is going to haunt their future

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    England needs a dictator who is going to rule with a pair of steel b***s.

    All I have seen is a guy succumbing to a sheep public demand!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Absolute disaster

    Feel so sorry for children aged 16-18

    This is going to haunt their future
    Theyíll just get their predicted grades.

    Boris said that all pupils will get their GCSE and A-Level qualifications but how? He didnít say

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronaldo7 View Post
    Theyíll just get their predicted grades.

    Boris said that all pupils will get their GCSE and A-Level qualifications but how? He didnít say
    Complete Farce

    The government has succumbed to pressure and our kids have paid a heavy price.

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    Below 20,000 deaths is the target. That just sounds pathetic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post

    This better work

    Lockdown will lead to domestic world war 3

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    I think next will be army being deployed

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    I think whole City of london will be locked down from Friday.
    Boris will probably announce this in tomorrow’s press conference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMMY69 View Post
    I think next will be army being deployed
    I have seen videos of army truck movement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMMY69 View Post
    Lockdown in Italy hasn’t slowed down the death rate....

    Shocking
    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Exactly

    These fools have it all wrong. Panic buying, hoarding, schools being shut down, recreation being ceased
    Lockdown doesn’t mean fall in cases so soon. It’s a method to contain an infection and then fighting it directly. Read this article which explains what was happening in Hubei and how they controlled it.

    https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coron...e-f4d3d9cd99ca

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMMY69 View Post
    Lockdown in Italy hasn’t slowed down the death rate....

    Shocking
    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Exactly

    These fools have it all wrong. Panic buying, hoarding, schools being shut down, recreation being ceased
    You guys have to view stats.

    Italy went from 335 cases per day on Mar 2...

    TO

    3497 cases per day on Mar 14 with things rate of growth stabilising.

    Their daily new cases in last 4 days:

    3497
    3590
    3233
    3526

    Had they NOT locked down their country, in 30 days they would have hit 100,000 cases per day...

    and in 45 days...they would have hit 1.8 million cases per day.

    Even if they contained hard, the actual numbers would have been ridiculous too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    You guys have to view stats.

    Italy went from 335 cases per day on Mar 2...

    TO

    3497 cases per day on Mar 14 with things rate of growth stabilising.

    Their daily new cases in last 4 days:

    3497
    3590
    3233
    3526

    Had they NOT locked down their country, in 30 days they would have hit 100,000 cases per day...

    and in 45 days...they would have hit 1.8 million cases per day.

    Even if they contained hard, the actual numbers would have been ridiculous too.
    Pro lockdown fans finding excuses

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Pro lockdown fans finding excuses
    @kaayal

    Look at this intellectual here.

    I applaud you guys.


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    If you don't even realize why Italy had to lockdown to curb corona.....you aren't even qualified to debate here.

    I was being nice and explaining it to you but serves me right.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    If you don't even realize why Italy had to lockdown to curb corona.....you aren't even qualified to debate here.

    I was being nice and explaining it to you but serves me right.
    I thought this thread was for updates and to see how everyone was doing in london. Not a thread about pros and cons of a lockdown etc etc...

    I’m just updating what I hear so that people can be prepared for it..

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    Good luck seeing this slow down with the lockdown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMMY69 View Post
    I thought this thread was for updates and to see how everyone was doing in london. Not a thread about pros and cons of a lockdown etc etc...

    I’m just updating what I hear so that people can be prepared for it..
    I never even argued for lockdown bhai.

    It has to be strategic. Especially in countries like India and Pakistan.

    But you can't equate lockdown and compare deaths in Italy. That was my point which I illustrated with math.


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    Quote Originally Posted by King-Misbah View Post
    I have seen videos of army truck movement.
    Yes and tanks too. The virus is going to face an almighty whooping of mega proportions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    I never even argued for lockdown bhai.

    It has to be strategic. Especially in countries like India and Pakistan.

    But you can't equate lockdown and compare deaths in Italy. That was my point which I illustrated with math.
    Sure, I only said that as it was being reported in the news.
    They English reporter in Italy, she genuinely looked confused

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMMY69 View Post
    Sure, I only said that as it was being reported in the news.
    They English reporter in Italy, she genuinely looked confused
    I see...fair enough.

    Deaths come from existing corona patients who fought but lost.

    With new cases declining (sometime in the future), deaths will decline too.

    Till then, deaths will show no signs of subsiding.

    Another reason for deaths in Italy is that the population is old. So their death ratio will be high.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post

    Another reason for deaths in Italy is that the population is old. So their death ratio will be high.
    Wish people would stop repeating this. it might be a reason why italy's death rate is so shockingly high at the moment, but it's not why italy are badly affected. They are badly affected because it's a deadly illness. England have slightly less old people, yeah, but it's hardly solace or reassurance


    How odd I can have all this inside me and to you it's just words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by majiz View Post
    wish people would stop repeating this. It might be a reason why italy's death rate is so shockingly high at the moment, but it's not why italy are badly affected. They are badly affected because it's a deadly illness. England have slightly less old people, yeah, but it's hardly solace or reassurance
    stop panicking

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    Quote Originally Posted by majiz View Post
    Wish people would stop repeating this. it might be a reason why italy's death rate is so shockingly high at the moment, but it's not why italy are badly affected. They are badly affected because it's a deadly illness. England have slightly less old people, yeah, but it's hardly solace or reassurance
    Not sure why you would take a random sentence and make assumptions about one's view.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    stop panicking
    Think it's better to be a bit panicky then oblivious to the magnitude of the situation like most people have been last couple of weeks. Most people I have spoken to in england arent even aware of what's been happening in Italy and spain and we are one week behind how italy was last week

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    Denmark was the quickest country to announce a complete lock down, while UK has been the slowest to respond.

    Lets see how things develop in next few days. It will give us an idea of which strategy is best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by majiz View Post
    Think it's better to be a bit panicky then oblivious to the magnitude of the situation like most people have been last couple of weeks. Most people I have spoken to in england arent even aware of what's been happening in Italy and spain and we are one week behind how italy was last week
    A bit panicky?

    How is Panic going to solve anyoneís current predicament right now?

    You are more likely to go into a mental breakdown because of panic as compared to a virus killing you, that too which so far has been proved to have cured in 8/10 people who contract it

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    People need to play a positive role here.

    Iím not saying they should lie but talk about safety and happiness, not the chances of death and sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Pro lockdown fans finding excuses
    Lockdown makes sense. But it has to be fast and quick. China did it after 600 diagnosed cases. Italy was caught by surprise then it took them a while to decide for a lockdown.

    Denmark is a better example of a quick and effective lockdown. Look at their numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Good luck seeing this slow down with the lockdown.
    Are you in medical profession?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kk1992 View Post
    Are you in medical profession?
    No. Iím a frustrated UK citizen watching my world collapse

    Are we in the same boat as those in the medical profession?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMMY69 View Post
    Lockdown in Italy hasn’t slowed down the death rate....

    Shocking
    I think the perception might have something to do with the late symptoms, meaning people were already infected when quarantined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    No. I’m a frustrated UK citizen watching my world collapse

    Are we in the same boat as those in the medical profession?
    No you aren't and that explain your ignorance on this topic.

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    Yesterday's QE (£350B) and today"s carnage, have pummeled the GBP.

    1.15, lowest vs the USD since 1985. That's eighty five.

    Parity is on the table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sensible-indian-fan View Post
    @kaayal

    Look at this intellectual here.

    I applaud you guys.
    People are panicked and their whole world is falling around them. Let’s be considerate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaayal View Post
    People are panicked and their whole world is falling around them. Let’s be considerate.
    Donít be considerate to me pal. Bring your A game to take me down with your scientific explanations

    The Lockdown is a farce!

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    Well it looks like London is going into lockdown.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Don’t be considerate to me pal. Bring your A game to take me down with your scientific explanations

    The Lockdown is a farce!
    It’s not me or you who is going to decide whether it’s going to lockdown or not. The concerned authorities will do whatever that is required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Don’t be considerate to me pal. Bring your A game to take me down with your scientific explanations

    The Lockdown is a farce!
    How is it a farce? Do you understand the concept of trying to contain the spread as much as possible so the healthcare system doesn't get completely overwhelmed? We do not want to end up like Italy. Italy acted way too late.

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    An insightful interview with an Italian doctor

    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcas...=1000468656901

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Don’t be considerate to me pal. Bring your A game to take me down with your scientific explanations

    The Lockdown is a farce!
    Stop acting like some tough macho man. The Lockdown is necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The_KING View Post
    Stop acting like some tough macho man. The Lockdown is necessary.
    No itís not. The school ban is unnecessary also.

    Letís lock down and see how this pandemic stops spreading....

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFM View Post
    How is it a farce? Do you understand the concept of trying to contain the spread as much as possible so the healthcare system doesn't get completely overwhelmed? We do not want to end up like Italy. Italy acted way too late.
    This is a good explanation of why the virus is exploding. Its a week old so might be already out of date, and may be too technical for some. However, definitely a good watch.



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    I am a physician in the US. Our response to the pandemic has been a joke. However, the response in the UK has been even worse. The leaders have completely failed to educate the public why this is a big deal. So people like Mr Rana here are going off on misguided rants. I can sympathize with his position, it is up to the political and medical leaders to properly explain things to people during tough times like this.

    Without getting too technical, let me just explain it this way. This is a new virus. None of us have immunity against it. If you catch it, you will get sick. How sick you get depends largely on your age. Children have very mild symptoms, whereas the death rate in people above 65 is very high. The more co-morbidities you have, the higher the likelihood of getting very sick - diabetes, heart disease, COPD, asthma, etc. We have no cure, no vaccine, no medicine. Nothing. All we can do is prevent people from catching it, and the only way to do that is to limit exposures. Now in countries like South Korea, they are being very aggressive about testing. They are finding EVERYONE that has it, whether or not they have symptoms, and isolating them for 14-21 days and this is stopping the spread of the virus. But places like the UK, US, etc don't have enough tests to do this. So they are telling everyone to isolate and hoping that enough sick people also isolate and things calm down. But sadly it won't be enough, and cases will definitely spike in both countries. The hope is that at least it helps somewhat.

    Its a scary time for healthcare workers. I have a 1 year old son, and I worry if i catch it what impact it will have on him. I worry for my parents who are in their 60s and my wifes parents who are in their 70s. Very high risk of mortality if they catch it. May Allah keep all of us safe!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    No it’s not. The school ban is unnecessary also.

    Let’s lock down and see how this pandemic stops spreading....
    You are one brave soul right.

    When the lock down happens, go out instead. I'm sure Brock Lesnar will be by your side and will F5 the Coronavirus, making sure you don't get affected.

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    New measures are being introduced across London's transport network in response to the worsening coronavirus outbreak.

    A partial shutdown of the London Underground is beginning today - and up to 40 stations that do not interchange with other lines are going to be closed "until further notice".

    As the morning rush hour began, several other stations were closed owing to "operational restrictions".

    The Waterloo and City line is going to shut completely from Friday, and Night Tube services that normally run on Friday and Saturday nights are being suspended.

    Transport for London (TfL) is also planning to reduce the frequency of services across its network from Monday "to provide a service for critical workers to get where they need to".

    The Tube, London Overground, TfL Rail, the DLR and London trams will all be affected by this reduction in service.

    Late services will continue to run for "essential journeys" on both the Tube and Overground - with bus services continuing through the night.

    London Mayor Sadiq Khan said: "People should not be travelling, by any means, unless they really, really have to. Londoners should be avoiding social interaction unless absolutely necessary, and that means they should be avoiding using the transport network unless absolutely necessary.

    "London will get through these extraordinarily challenging times, and ensuring the capital's critical workers can move around the city will be crucial.

    "I'm urging Londoners to only use public transport for essential journeys. Everyone should follow this and the other advice to help keep themselves and each other safe."

    The following stations could close from today:

    Bakerloo line

    Lambeth North
    Regents Park
    Warwick Avenue
    Kilburn Park
    Charing Cross
    Central line

    Holland Park
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    Chancery Lane
    Redbridge
    Circle line

    Bayswater
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    Barbican

    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...urces-11959814


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    Quote Originally Posted by adil_909 View Post
    I am a physician in the US. Our response to the pandemic has been a joke. However, the response in the UK has been even worse. The leaders have completely failed to educate the public why this is a big deal. So people like Mr Rana here are going off on misguided rants. I can sympathize with his position, it is up to the political and medical leaders to properly explain things to people during tough times like this.

    Without getting too technical, let me just explain it this way. This is a new virus. None of us have immunity against it. If you catch it, you will get sick. How sick you get depends largely on your age. Children have very mild symptoms, whereas the death rate in people above 65 is very high. The more co-morbidities you have, the higher the likelihood of getting very sick - diabetes, heart disease, COPD, asthma, etc. We have no cure, no vaccine, no medicine. Nothing. All we can do is prevent people from catching it, and the only way to do that is to limit exposures. Now in countries like South Korea, they are being very aggressive about testing. They are finding EVERYONE that has it, whether or not they have symptoms, and isolating them for 14-21 days and this is stopping the spread of the virus. But places like the UK, US, etc don't have enough tests to do this. So they are telling everyone to isolate and hoping that enough sick people also isolate and things calm down. But sadly it won't be enough, and cases will definitely spike in both countries. The hope is that at least it helps somewhat.

    Its a scary time for healthcare workers. I have a 1 year old son, and I worry if i catch it what impact it will have on him. I worry for my parents who are in their 60s and my wifes parents who are in their 70s. Very high risk of mortality if they catch it. May Allah keep all of us safe!
    You are a physician. I hope you stay safe and your family stays safe also.

    As I have said again and again, letís see if the lockdown works out. Iím betting that it wonít

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    You are a physician. I hope you stay safe and your family stays safe also.

    As I have said again and again, letís see if the lockdown works out. Iím betting that it wonít
    Of course it will You may not see immediate improvement in cases (they will continue to rise for a few weeks) as theres a 2 weeks delay in people contracting it and recovering from it

    But over 3-4 weeks the no of cases should start levelling off and coming down if the lockdown is observed properly

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    There is "zero prospect" of restrictions on travel in and out of London over the coronavirus pandemic, Downing Street has said.

    The government has moved to dampen down speculation that a full-scale lockdown of the capital could be enforced in order to combat COVID-19, the disease caused by the coronavirus.

    Prime Minister Boris Johnson's official spokesman said: "There are no plans to close down the transport network in London and there is zero prospect of any restrictions being placed on travelling in and out of London."'

    Read more on

    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavir...treet-11960212


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    UK seems to be burying their head in the sand.... they do not seem to be learning from the experience of Italy, Spain, Germany and France.


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    I think UK govt can't bear the prospect of no longer being seen as Great Britain. Lockdowns and such will devastate the economy, and it looks like they are trying to get away with disturbing businesses as less as possible. People are still being advised to avoid pubs and restaurants rather than forcing the issue. We are literally leaving it up to the public to take the lead.


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    What's happening in China, are they till saying its decreased in deaths and catching it?


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