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    Quote Originally Posted by Watsupdoc View Post
    I was wrong - read the first post not mid-season one lol

    We are only allowed two player type changes.

    The only other way to have right / left new ball pair is to scratch previous contract swaps.

    And have Rayyman swap contract with wc captain (so skip becomes platinum)

    And have Babar swap contract with Arshad

    Meaning you will remain with Diamond
    @world cup captain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    Come quick I've summarized the changes as follows for you to copy and paste:

    Contract swap: @Rayyman (platinum) and world cup captain (gold)} to @Rayyman (gold) and world cup captain (platinum).

    Contract swap: #Arshad Iqbal (platinum) and #Babar Azam (regular) to #Arshad Iqbal (regular) and #Babar Azam (platinum).

    Player type change: @iPakistani from right arm fast bowling AR (gold) to pure right arm fast bowler (gold)

    Player type change: shafkath to fast bowling AR (reg)

    Final Squad
    1) 95 skill bat (Watsupdoc) left
    2) 90 skill bat (Babar) right
    3) 85 skill bat (Ahmad) right
    4) 85 skill bat (Future Knick) left
    5) 80 skill bat (Rayyman) right
    6) 80 skill bat (Jibran) left
    7) 40 skill bat / 95 skill bowl (wc captain) right
    8) 35 skill bat / 90 skill bowl (Amir) left
    9) 30 skill bat / 85 skill bowl (Thunderbolt14) left
    10) 25 skill bat / 80 skill bowl (iPakistani) right
    11) 25 skill bat / 80 skill bowl (Smudger)

    Bench:
    20 skill bat / 75 skill bowl (Usama Mir)
    50 skill bat / 60 skill bowl (shafkath)
    20 skill bat / 75 skill bowl (Arshad Iqbal)

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    So guys normal pitch vs. Multan they bat deep but their bowling isn’t super strong. Their highest skill bowler would be diamond contract after the swaps they have made.

    Their line-up will probably look something like this

    1) 95
    2) 90
    3) 85
    4) 80
    5) 80
    6) 80/70 (bat A/R) - off spin
    7) 70/70 (Khusdil - left leg spin)
    8) 85 ball (pacer)
    9) 85 ball (pacer)
    10) 80 pacer
    11) 75 (Tahir) or another spinner AR with low batting and bowling skill


    My suggestion for the team line-up is to go with 3 pace and 2 spin attack. Also keep me and Babar a bit apart so as to try and maximise the impact of platinum batters

    1) Smudger
    2) Rayyman
    3) World Cup captain (platinum contract)
    4) Babar
    5) Da_Futur_Knick
    6) Watsupdoc
    7) Ahmedharis1
    8) Jibran
    9) Amir
    10) thunderbolt
    11) Usama Mir

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    When did the Kings hire Peter Moores? So much emphasis on the data

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    I like that you're top loading with righties given that most of their bowlers are righties. Small change is I would keep the order the same except for making one of the openers a leftie to account for Babu Bhaiya (diamond) who is changing from rightie to leftie (only leftie bowler in the squad) and will be taking the new ball.
    1) Amir
    2) Jibran
    3) World Cup captain
    4) Babar
    5) Da_Future_Knick
    6) Watsupdoc
    7) Ahmedharis1
    8) Rayyman
    9) Thunderbolt14
    10) Smudger
    11) Usama Mir

    Thoughts @world cup captain @Watsupdoc?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    I like that you're top loading with righties given that most of their bowlers are righties. Small change is I would keep the order the same except for making one of the openers a leftie to account for Babu Bhaiya (diamond) who is changing from rightie to leftie (only leftie bowler in the squad) and will be taking the new ball.
    1) Amir
    2) Jibran
    3) World Cup captain
    4) Babar
    5) Da_Future_Knick
    6) Watsupdoc
    7) Ahmedharis1
    8) Rayyman
    9) Thunderbolt14
    10) Smudger
    11) Usama Mir

    Thoughts @world cup captain @Watsupdoc?
    Think we should keep Amir down the order as batting skills are better than other tail-enders. Otherwise why not


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    I can open instead of Amir then. Just want a leftie up top

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    I can open instead of Amir then. Just want a leftie up top
    Jibran is a lefty no? But yea you openingn works as well.


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    Given our spinners, let's look to bat first. The deterioration should help our spinners especially since their middle order is composed of mostly right-handers. Batting second shouldn't be terrible because our attack should be able to hold them to a below-par total.

    1) Amir
    2) World Cup captain
    3) Jibran
    4) Babar
    5) Da_Future_Knick
    6) Watsupdoc
    7) Ahmedharis1
    8) Rayyman
    9) Thunderbolt14
    10) Smudger
    11) Usama Mir

    The only thing I would change is swap Jibran with me. Due to the mandatory wicket loss in the first couple of overs, I rather lose a bowler trying to hit our than a batsman.


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    @Thunderbolt, as the VC, you can post official team information on matches threads and such.


    “I've never lost a game I just ran out of time.” Micheal Jordan

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    But if we don't lose wicket upfront then wouldn't the start be too slow with two tailenders opening?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Watsupdoc View Post
    So guys normal pitch vs. Multan they bat deep but their bowling isn’t super strong. Their highest skill bowler would be diamond contract after the swaps they have made.

    Their line-up will probably look something like this

    1) 95
    2) 90
    3) 85
    4) 80
    5) 80
    6) 80/70 (bat A/R) - off spin
    7) 70/70 (Khusdil - left leg spin)
    8) 85 ball (pacer)
    9) 85 ball (pacer)
    10) 80 pacer
    11) 75 (Tahir) or another spinner AR with low batting and bowling skill
    Thank you for providing me half of my homework.

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    Quote Originally Posted by last_knight View Post
    Thank you for providing me half of my homework.
    Your welcome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watsupdoc View Post
    But if we don't lose wicket upfront then wouldn't the start be too slow with two tailenders opening?
    Then let's only have one bowler at the top. There's no need for a bowler to come in at one down.

    1) Jibran
    2) Amir
    3) Babar
    4) Da_Future_Knick
    5) Watsupdoc
    6) Ahmedharis1
    7) Rayyman
    8) World Cup Captain
    9) Thunderbolt14
    10) Smudger
    11) Usama Mir


    “I've never lost a game I just ran out of time.” Micheal Jordan

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    Quote Originally Posted by world cup captain View Post
    Then let's only have one bowler at the top. There's no need for a bowler to come in at one down.

    1) Jibran
    2) Amir
    3) Babar
    4) Da_Future_Knick
    5) Watsupdoc
    6) Ahmedharis1
    7) Rayyman
    8) World Cup Captain
    9) Thunderbolt14
    10) Smudger
    11) Usama Mir
    Maybe switch Rayyman and Jibrans position to have left-right combo up top.

    Otherwise looks good to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watsupdoc View Post
    Maybe switch Rayyman and Jibrans position to have left-right combo up top.

    Otherwise looks good to me.
    Jibran's a leftie and Amir is a righty (for batting).


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    Quote Originally Posted by world cup captain View Post
    Jibran's a leftie and Amir is a righty (for batting).
    Lol ok I see - I didn't know Amir was a righty


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    So much intent and rationalized discussions.

    This KK Think tank should replace Deano & Waz.

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    Ok so Jeetu went ahead and made Thunderbolt platinum and I am a diamond (makes no difference in our strategy). Given the higher rating, thunderbolt is batting up the order.

    1) Jibran
    2) Thunderbolt14
    3) Babar
    4) Da_Future_Knick
    5) Watsupdoc
    6) Ahmedharis1
    7) Rayyman
    8) Amir
    9) World Cup Captain
    10) Smudger
    11) Usama Mir


    “I've never lost a game I just ran out of time.” Micheal Jordan

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    Quote Originally Posted by world cup captain View Post
    Ok so Jeetu went ahead and made Thunderbolt platinum and I am a diamond (makes no difference in our strategy). Given the higher rating, thunderbolt is batting up the order.

    1) Jibran
    2) Thunderbolt14
    3) Babar
    4) Da_Future_Knick
    5) Watsupdoc
    6) Ahmedharis1
    7) Rayyman
    8) Amir
    9) World Cup Captain
    10) Smudger
    11) Usama Mir
    Let’s wait and see maybe he didn’t see the other post.

    I think it should be fine to cancel the other contracts swap you had put earlier and put the new ones in (Babar as platinum now and Arshad as regular / World Cup captain as platinum now and Rayyman as gold) - since it was still before the deadline.

    Thunderbolt remains at diamond

    @jeetu @Batman that should be fine right?

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    Karachi Kings Squad Update


    Role Bat Skill Bowl Skill Bat Hand Bowl Hand Contract
    1 Sharjeel Khan Batsman 75 0 Left Hand - Regular
    2 Rayyman Batsman 80 0 Right Hand - Gold
    3 JibranAnsari Batsman 80 0 Left Hand - Gold
    4 Da_Future_Knick Batsman 85 0 Left Hand - Diamond
    5 ahmedharis1 Batsman 85 0 Right Hand - Diamond
    6 Babar Azam Batsman 90 0 Right Hand - Platinum
    7 Watsupdoc WK 95 0 Left Hand - Platinum
    8 World Cup Captain Fast 40 95 Left Hand Right Arm Platinum
    9 Mohammad Amir Fast Medium 35 90 Right Hand Left Arm Platinum
    10 Thunderbolt14 Fast 30 85 Left Hand Left Arm Diamond
    11 Smudger Leg Spin 25 80 Left Hand Left Arm Gold
    12 Ipakistani Fast Medium 25 80 Right Hand Right Arm Gold
    13 Usama Mir Leg Spin 20 75 Right Hand Right Arm Regular
    14 Arshad Iqbal Fast Medium 20 75 Right Hand Right Arm Regular
    15 shafkath Left Arm Fast AR 55 65 Right Hand Right Arm Regular

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    Multan's Line Up

    65/55 (Off Spin)
    90/0
    85/0
    95/0
    70/70 (Leg Spin)
    80/0
    80/0
    55/65 (Leg Spin)
    30/85 (Fast)
    20/75 (Leg Spin)
    30/85 (Fast)

    Their #2,#3 and #4 will be the main challenge so hopefully, Amir and I can rip them out and our spinner can feast on their middle order.

    Their bowling very weak but depends on the deterioration of the pitch. They're only playing 2 pacers and 1 proper leggie and 3 AR spinners. If we bat first, we should be able to smack them around easily.

    We'll go back to our initial line up.

    1) Jibran
    2) Amir
    3) Babar
    4) Da_Future_Knick
    5) Watsupdoc
    6) Ahmedharis1
    7) Rayyman
    8) World Cup Captain
    9) Thunderbolt14
    10) Smudger
    11) Usama Mir
    @Watsupdoc @Thunderbolt14


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    Is Babar at 1 down ideal? This will mean he will almost certainly face the new ball

    Quote Originally Posted by Watsupdoc View Post
    But if we don't lose wicket upfront then wouldn't the start be too slow with two tailenders opening?
    A bowler opening against the new ball on a normal pitch against diamond is pretty certain to lose his wicket. If Amir gets out in the first or second over for example, Babar will have to face the third over which will be bowled by Babu Bhaiya

    Quote Originally Posted by world cup captain View Post
    Given our spinners, let's look to bat first. The deterioration should help our spinners especially since their middle order is composed of mostly right-handers. Batting second shouldn't be terrible because our attack should be able to hold them to a below-par total.

    1) Amir
    2) World Cup captain
    3) Jibran
    4) Babar
    5) Da_Future_Knick
    6) Watsupdoc
    7) Ahmedharis1
    8) Rayyman
    9) Thunderbolt14
    10) Smudger
    11) Usama Mir

    The only thing I would change is swap Jibran with me. Due to the mandatory wicket loss in the first couple of overs, I rather lose a bowler trying to hit our than a batsman.
    I actually like this lineup most for the above reasons. But your decision skip

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    Quote Originally Posted by world cup captain View Post
    Multan's Line Up

    65/55 (Off Spin)
    90/0
    85/0
    95/0
    70/70 (Leg Spin)
    80/0
    80/0
    55/65 (Leg Spin)
    30/85 (Fast)
    20/75 (Leg Spin)
    30/85 (Fast)

    Their #2,#3 and #4 will be the main challenge so hopefully, Amir and I can rip them out and our spinner can feast on their middle order.

    Their bowling very weak but depends on the deterioration of the pitch. They're only playing 2 pacers and 1 proper leggie and 3 AR spinners. If we bat first, we should be able to smack them around easily.

    We'll go back to our initial line up.

    1) Jibran
    2) Amir
    3) Babar
    4) Da_Future_Knick
    5) Watsupdoc
    6) Ahmedharis1
    7) Rayyman
    8) World Cup Captain
    9) Thunderbolt14
    10) Smudger
    11) Usama Mir
    @Watsupdoc @Thunderbolt14
    I find this like-up good. Don’t think we should open with two tail-Enders just out of the fear of losing early wickets.

    Let’s be a bit positive here.

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    @Watsupdoc man remember PPCL season 1? Me, you, KU, Pboy, Toca, and Murphy uncle with those Chatzy runs

    Man I miss those days :/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Square Drive View Post
    @Watsupdoc man remember PPCL season 1? Me, you, KU, Pboy, Toca, and Murphy uncle with those Chatzy runs

    Man I miss those days :/
    Those were the days! You used to act so innocent and uncle Murphy with his wisdom

    Same here man miss those days

    Lets try to be in the same team for the next PPCL tournament / season bro!

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    @world cup captain. @Thunderbolt14 what are the thoughts for the pitch type for the game against Islamabad?

    The have 4 platinum bats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watsupdoc View Post
    Those were the days! You used to act so innocent and uncle Murphy with his wisdom

    Same here man miss those days

    Lets try to be in the same team for the next PPCL tournament / season bro!
    Haha for sure bro gotta make that reunion happen again.

    Why next tournament? There is still time in this one @Abdullah719


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    Quote Originally Posted by Square Drive View Post
    Haha for sure bro gotta make that reunion happen again.

    Why next tournament? There is still time in this one @Abdullah719
    You are absolutely right 12th player of Karachi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watsupdoc View Post
    You are absolutely right 12th player of Karachi
    WOW, from platinum player to 12th man?! I see how it is


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    Quote Originally Posted by Square Drive View Post
    WOW, from platinum player to 12th man?! I see how it is
    I pulled the strings to get you Platinum at Peshawar and @Manager101 has been set-up with multiple dates on his private Island now. Be grateful!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watsupdoc View Post
    I pulled the strings to get you Platinum at Peshawar and @Manager101 has been set-up with multiple dates on his private Island now. Be grateful!
    The second part I can confirm. Look at the Zalmi team thread - me talking to myself while Manager living the life on his private island.


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    AFM, Fast, Left, 30/85
    TrentDevil, Fast, Right, 30/85
    MenInG, MediumFast, Right, 25/80
    Batman, LegSpin, Right, 30/85
    Ismailtoca, Medium, Left, 20/75
    Deewana Mastana, FastMedium, Right, 65/55

    This looks like their most likely attack - 5 pacers (including a batting AR) and one spinner

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    Quote Originally Posted by Square Drive View Post
    The second part I can confirm. Look at the Zalmi team thread - me talking to myself while Manager living the life on his private island.
    You should come to Karachi sometime khushboo laga k - we’ll go on our own private party ahead of the play-offs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    AFM, Fast, Left, 30/85
    TrentDevil, Fast, Right, 30/85
    MenInG, MediumFast, Right, 25/80
    Batman, LegSpin, Right, 30/85
    Ismailtoca, Medium, Left, 20/75
    Deewana Mastana, FastMedium, Right, 65/55

    This looks like their most likely attack - 5 pacers (including a batting AR) and one spinner
    Their spin bowling is weak? How about dry pitch then?

    Or we could try and take advantage of our stronger bowling unit and go for Spicy pitch

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    Spin is just slightly weaker than ours:

    Batman, LegSpin, Right, 85 and Major, BowlAR, OffSpin, Right, 65

    Ours is
    Smudger, LegSpin, Right, 80 and Usama Mir, Leg Spin, Right, 75

    If we went with dry, I would still go with 4/1 personally to take advantage of the pitch attributes.

    But the greatest advantage is if we went spicy, it would allow us to back our bowlers against their strong batting lineup but their bowlers won't find as much help (due to lower attributes and limited number of good pacers). While our batsmen would hypothetically be lower rated, IU will run out of bowlers to trouble us with once we get through the new ball and it should be smooth sailing from there even on a spicy pitch if we bury our platinum's lower down the order. On the other hand, the spicy pitch allows us to provide bite against the 4 batsmen, against whom we will be helpless on a dry pitch.

    To me, it's a very clear move to go 5/0 on a spicy pitch (replacing Smudger with iPakistani) and allow our bowlers maximum penetration. Anything else would run the risk of their batsmen cutting loose, and like you said, it's a positive approach to back our bowling.
    Last edited by Thunderbolt14; 9th April 2020 at 18:09.

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    We could even go with Devilish? Not sure what that would look like since it hasn't been simmed.
    Last edited by Thunderbolt14; 9th April 2020 at 18:12.

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    Yea I agree we should go for Spicy or Devilish.

    Devilish is a bit more risky, but might well be worth the risk and an experiment.

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    @jeetu, could you list the attributes of a spicy and devilish pitch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by world cup captain View Post
    @jeetu, could you list the attributes of a spicy and devilish pitch?
    There are no attributes as such , but it seems that it increases bowling skills and reduces batting skills as pitch goes from normal to spicy and so on. Reverse for dry pitch and higher.


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    Multan Game:

    1) World Cup Captain
    2) Amir
    3) Da_Future_Knick
    4) Babar
    5) Watsupdoc
    6) Ahmedharis1
    7) Rayyman
    8) Jibran
    9) Thunderbolt14
    10) Smudger
    11) Usama Mir

    Going to tweak the line up a little bit. We lost the last game because we lost our batsmen at the top. If we win the toss, the two bowlers should be able to bat an over or two so our batsmen pounce no the weaker bowling.

    On the other hand, if we lose the toss, chasing will be tough. The last thing we want is to lose a couple of batsmen in the first two overs. I rather have a slower start because our batsmen can make up for it later against weaker bowling.


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    Quote Originally Posted by world cup captain View Post
    Multan Game:

    1) World Cup Captain
    2) Amir
    3) Da_Future_Knick
    4) Babar
    5) Watsupdoc
    6) Ahmedharis1
    7) Rayyman
    8) Jibran
    9) Thunderbolt14
    10) Smudger
    11) Usama Mir

    Going to tweak the line up a little bit. We lost the last game because we lost our batsmen at the top. If we win the toss, the two bowlers should be able to bat an over or two so our batsmen pounce no the weaker bowling.

    On the other hand, if we lose the toss, chasing will be tough. The last thing we want is to lose a couple of batsmen in the first two overs. I rather have a slower start because our batsmen can make up for it later against weaker bowling.
    Agreed, looks good!

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    Tough loss guys. Imran Tahir pulled a special one

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    Here is my suggestion for the next home game. I think we need to put me and Babar further apart in batting order and maybe we are over thinking in terms of left right combination.

    1) IPakistani
    2) Thunderbolt
    3) Da_Future_Knick
    4) Babar
    5) Rayyman
    6) Watsupdoc
    7) Jibranansari
    8) Ahmedharis1
    9) Shafkath
    10) World Cup captain
    11) Amir

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watsupdoc View Post
    Here is my suggestion for the next home game. I think we need to put me and Babar further apart in batting order and maybe we are over thinking in terms of left right combination.
    Agreed, it looks like the reason for our collapse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    Agreed, it looks like the reason for our collapse.
    Yea we both end up batting around same time and then one of the platinum player gets out early. Maybe if we put the two platinum bats further apart both will perform

    Maybe in the line-up suggestion above I posted - we can even put Babar at 3?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Watsupdoc View Post
    Yea we both end up batting around same time and then one of the platinum player gets out early. Maybe if we put the two platinum bats further apart both will perform

    Maybe in the line-up suggestion above I posted - we can even put Babar at 3?
    I like the line up on post #284 but keep Babar at 4. On a spicy pitch, 1-2 wickets are guaranteed to fall and Babar shouldn't be part of the wickets.


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    Quote Originally Posted by world cup captain View Post
    I like the line up on post #284 but keep Babar at 4. On a spicy pitch, 1-2 wickets are guaranteed to fall and Babar shouldn't be part of the wickets.
    Given our ground characteristics you are right we are probably quite likely to lose a few wickets with the new ball.

    So yea let’s keep Babar at 4

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    @world cup captain @Thunderbolt14

    What are your thoughts for the game against Lahore on dry wicket?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watsupdoc View Post
    @world cup captain @Thunderbolt14

    What are your thoughts for the game against Lahore on dry wicket?
    Two spin options, both Smudger and Mir. Let's also not bury our batsmen too far down. maybe open with wc captain and rayyman. One down babar, two down ahmadharis or future knick, and then you. Haven't looked at Lahore's bowling stats though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    Two spin options, both Smudger and Mir. Let's also not bury our batsmen too far down. maybe open with wc captain and rayyman. One down babar, two down ahmadharis or future knick, and then you. Haven't looked at Lahore's bowling stats though
    I agree shouldn’t bury our batsman too low down.

    I don’t think we should open with a tailender either. They have Shaheen only as a platinum bowler.

    Maybe we could consider opening with Babar. Opening the batting with platinum seems to be working for Lahore.

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    If we open with platinum then it should be with you, not Babar. Shaheen’s a leftie.

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    Again I think we are focusing too much on left/right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watsupdoc View Post
    Again I think we are focusing too much on left/right
    There’s no harm is there? Call me superstitious

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    I think we should go with the below:

    1) Babar
    2) Jibran
    3) Ahmedharis1
    4) Watsupdoc
    5) Da_Future_Knick
    6) Rayyman
    7) World cup captain
    8) Amir
    9) Thunderbolt
    10) Smudger
    11) Usama

    Otherwise:

    1) Da_Future_Knick
    2) Jibran
    3) Babar
    4) Ahmedharis1
    5) Watsupdoc
    6) Rayyman
    7) World Cup captain
    8) Amir
    9) Thunderbolt
    10) Smudger
    11) Usama

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    There’s no harm is there? Call me superstitious
    Me playing lower down has been working so let’s keep that.

    Need to find the ideal position for Babar now.

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    I'm inclined to chase given the batting nature of the pitch but worried we will choke to low-level spinners again.

    We haven't tried opening with gold batsmen yet, may as well give that a go too.

    1) Rayyman
    2) Jibran
    3) Babar
    4) Ahmedharis1
    5) Watsupdoc
    6) Da_Future_Knick
    7) World Cup captain
    8) Amir
    9) Thunderbolt
    10) Smudger
    11) Usama


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    Quote Originally Posted by world cup captain View Post
    I'm inclined to chase given the batting nature of the pitch but worried we will choke to low-level spinners again.

    We haven't tried opening with gold batsmen yet, may as well give that a go too.

    1) Rayyman
    2) Jibran
    3) Babar
    4) Ahmedharis1
    5) Watsupdoc
    6) Da_Future_Knick
    7) World Cup captain
    8) Amir
    9) Thunderbolt
    10) Smudger
    11) Usama
    Looks good to me. Let’s stay positive and play a normal batting line-up

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    Also doesn’t matter about batting or bowling first. Go with your gut feel.

    I personally think we should bowl first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watsupdoc View Post
    Also doesn’t matter about batting or bowling first. Go with your gut feel.

    I personally think we should bowl first.
    Same here but the collapse reminded me of the test match choke against NZ.

    We'll look to bowl first though. I'm sure the law of averages will pull through.


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    Quote Originally Posted by world cup captain View Post
    Same here but the collapse reminded me of the test match choke against NZ.

    We'll look to bowl first though. I'm sure the law of averages will pull through.
    That reminded me of the choke England had vs Pakistan in UAE when Ajmal and Rehman put on the screws as well

    Yea in theory it’s a batting wicket so we shouldn’t be collapsing hopefully

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    Let’s be positive and give ourselves some credit. We did amazingly in the last game until Waz sent his signal from the dressing room to Doc in the middle

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    Also what’s up with Usama Mir’s obsession with trying to break the world record for longest over ever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    Let’s be positive and give ourselves some credit. We did amazingly in the last game until Waz sent his signal from the dressing room to Doc in the middle
    It wasn’t just me, Ahmedharis, Jibran, Rayyman all were involved. We lost like what 6 wickets for 20 runs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    Also what’s up with Usama Mir’s obsession with trying to break the world record for longest over ever
    Money talks bro

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    For match 9 against Quetta, thinking of going with either flat or pancake. Till now, they have lost their two games on batting friendly pitches, dry and flat, both against Lahore and batting first.


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    Quote Originally Posted by world cup captain View Post
    For match 9 against Quetta, thinking of going with either flat or pancake. Till now, they have lost their two games on batting friendly pitches, dry and flat, both against Lahore and batting first.
    Let’s go for Road. Pancake is too toss dependent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watsupdoc View Post
    Let’s go for Road. Pancake is too toss dependent.
    Let's go with road. We have a terrible record with the toss 2-5.


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    Quote Originally Posted by world cup captain View Post
    Let's go with road. We have a terrible record with the toss 2-5.
    Lets do it then skip!


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    What a loss some time it’s the batting collapses and some time it’s the high skill bowlers that go for plenty.

    One thing is for certain though bowling skill is useless

    So let’s play all our games on batting paradises now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watsupdoc View Post
    What a loss some time it’s the batting collapses and some time it’s the high skill bowlers that go for plenty.

    One thing is for certain though bowling skill is useless

    So let’s play all our games on batting paradises now
    Agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    Agreed
    Or we can play on knightmare / unplayable pitch and unleash Arshad Iqbal

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    Hopefully the road will suit fast bowlers because of the pace.


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    @world cup captain @Thunderbolt14

    In the end qualification might depend on NRR.

    Is it worth taking a gamble against Quetta and going for a nightmare / unplayable pitch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Watsupdoc View Post
    @world cup captain @Thunderbolt14

    In the end qualification might depend on NRR.

    Is it worth taking a gamble against Quetta and going for a nightmare / unplayable pitch?
    We have a terrible toss record and if it will balance out, then it's definitely worth it. Their bowling their strong suit so it won't be as helpful to them as it will help us.


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    Round 8 against Lahore on Dry pitch:

    1) Rayyman
    2) Jibran
    3) Babar
    4) Ahmedharis1
    5) Watsupdoc
    6) Da_Future_Knick
    7) World Cup captain
    8) Amir
    9) Thunderbolt
    10) Smudger
    11) Usama


    Round 9 against Quetta (heavy bowling attack) pitch type: Nightmare?

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    Don’t worry, our bowlers will go for plenty on a nightmare track too. But yes, we need to up the net run rate as qualification looks difficult otherwise

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    If we could wait until the result of match against Lahore that would have been perfect

    If we win the next 3 we’ll go through for sure. But honestly winning against Zalmi at their home looks difficult.

    So it’s upto you skip go with what your gut says.

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    For all your hoopla against Misbah, you guys lost to him twice.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Watsupdoc View Post
    If we could wait until the result of match against Lahore that would have been perfect

    If we win the next 3 we’ll go through for sure. But honestly winning against Zalmi at their home looks difficult.

    So it’s upto you skip go with what your gut says.
    Yes, we'll wait for Lahore and if we don't win big, we'll have to risk it.


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