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    Quote Originally Posted by chazam View Post
    Priti Patel to be next pm
    Lol, you mist april fools day by a week.

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    10th .11th day of the disease are very tough and it can go either way. Hope he does not need Vent support .

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    I pray that he is ok

    These are dark times for our nation and our world. May Allah swt protect us all.

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    Persistent symptoms followed by rapid deterioration is a classic presentation.

    My gut feeling is he’s needing ventilatory support. It’s not something they just drop on the public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    If he is in a medically-induced coma, he is in serious trouble.

    Check Russian news for the latest ,dont trust the BBC.
    Russian news is state propaganda, after two hundred journalists got disappeared this century. They say what their government tells them.

    The BBC still has some autonomy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miandadrules View Post
    Persistent symptoms followed by rapid deterioration is a classic presentation.

    My gut feeling is he’s needing ventilatory support. It’s not something they just drop on the public.
    Sorry, are you a medical professional?

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    Quote Originally Posted by King-Misbah View Post
    Sorry, are you a medical professional?
    Yes.

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    Get well soon. Scary situation. He is a solid leader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miandadrules View Post
    Yes.
    Okay, I hope Boris pulls through!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iqbal'sh View Post
    They would all come together for the national interest but that wouldn’t be in the shape of a coalition government.
    I can see Starmer as Deputy PM if things don't look up. Hopefully Johnson is back to health soon and we turn the tide against the virus very soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    Ist very clear. Not sure what is confusing you.

    In his own words he said he shook hands with EVERYONE and also said the hospital had a coronavirus patients. Everyone includes them. Dont assume PM and his adviors are some sort on intelligent people, Boris is known as the buffoon for a reason, he is a dumb af.
    Dumb people don’t become PMs and win a huge mandate.

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    Natural selection doing it's thing. Love to see it.


    You're one microscopic cog in his catastrophic plan, designed and directed by his red right hand.

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    Apparently he's on CPAP, other sources they're preparing to intubate him. Things lookin real bad.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pakistanian View Post
    Apparently he's on CPAP, other sources they're preparing to intubate him. Things lookin real bad.

    Not a good news, we rarely use CPAP on covid pts , here in USA, he is close to be intubated, hope not .

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    Hope he gets well soon. I feel sorry for him.

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    He isnt on a ventilator, should be ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    Check Russian news for the latest ,dont trust the BBC.
    They're not much better than the Bat-Eaters News Corp. But trust you to be a sucker for them.

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    I have a genuinely stubborn knot in the pit of my stomach about this.

    Statistics show overall that when someone is admitted to an ICU with coronavirus symptoms, their chance of survival is barely greater than 50-50.

    If the worst happens, the PM must be considered a casualty of war and given a grand funeral - I just hope his replacement would be up to the task.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    If the worst happens, the PM must be considered a casualty of war and given a grand funeral - I just hope his replacement would be up to the task.
    And the UK's revolving door of PMs will continue.


    Have some Sehwag in your life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varun View Post
    And the UK's revolving door of PMs will continue.
    Across the 300-year history of the Prime Minister role, we have changed PM on average every 5 years, which I agree is quite often.

    Within this mean number, curiously there have been a small group of PMs who served for a very long time (around a decade, or even longer), and then a much larger handful of PMs who served for far shorter lengths of time.

    Johnson was looking like a candidate for the first group, and still might be - but sadly he might now fall into the second group.

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    Get well soon Boris. Inshallah he will pull through and get on with Brexit once this C19 blows over!

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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    Across the 300-year history of the Prime Minister role, we have changed PM on average every 5 years, which I agree is quite often.

    Within this mean number, curiously there have been a small group of PMs who served for a very long time (around a decade, or even longer), and then a much larger handful of PMs who served for far shorter lengths of time.

    Johnson was looking like a candidate for the first group, and still might be - but sadly he might now fall into the second group.
    That's not actually that bad in the cut throat world of politics and also marries up with the time between general elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    I have a genuinely stubborn knot in the pit of my stomach about this.

    Statistics show overall that when someone is admitted to an ICU with coronavirus symptoms, their chance of survival is barely greater than 50-50.

    If the worst happens, the PM must be considered a casualty of war and given a grand funeral - I just hope his replacement would be up to the task.
    Maybe a precautionary approach to better monitor his lungs?


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    Get well soon Boris!!!!

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    The prime minister is "extremely sick" and it is very likely he will need a ventilator, according to a medical expert.

    Boris Johnson has spent the night in intensive care after his health deteriorated - 11 days after he initially tested positive for COVID-19.

    Downing Street says Mr Johnson has been suffering from "persistent" coronavirus symptoms - and Sky's Beth Rigby reports he had been struggling to breathe and needed oxygen on Monday.

    Foreign secretary Dominic Raab, now 'deputy prime minister' speaks after Boris Johnson was taken into intensive care.

    Derek Hill, professor of medical imaging at University College London, said Mr Johnson could be given a breathing aid known as continuous positive airway pressure.

    This bridges the gap between an oxygen mask and full ventilation, sending a blend of air and oxygen into the mouth at a steady rate.

    However, Prof Hill warned many COVID-19 patients eventually "progress to invasive ventilation", which is for people whose illness is so severe that they are struggling or unable to breathe for themselves.

    A mechanical ventilator either does all the breathing for the patient or assists the patient's own breathing, and they are normally placed under heavy sedation.

    Prof Hill explained: "One of the features of COVID-19 in all countries seems to be that many more men become seriously ill than women - especially in the over 40 age group.

    "Also, we know that people under about 60 seem to have a higher chance of making a recovery from critical illness with COVID-19 than older people.

    "But there is no doubt this turn of events means Boris Johnson is extremely sick."

    Mr Johnson celebrated his 55th birthday last June.

    Prof Hill added the prime minister's situation highlights three key issues in the response to COVID-19.

    The US president added that Americans are "praying" for the UK prime minister.

    'America is praying for Boris Johnson'

    "Firstly, many patients need help breathing, and there is a shortage of the mechanical ventilators that can do this - and in particular a shortage of the high-quality intensive care ventilators most suitable for COVID-19 patients who might need help breathing for more than a week," he said.

    "Secondly, COVID-19 patients need a huge amount of oxygen to help them breathe, which is potentially going to be in short supply.

    "Thirdly, looking after people in intensive care requires skilled staff, and the experience of New York has been that finding enough skilled staff has been the greatest challenge."

    Boris Johnson has announced he will sontinue to self-isolate with coronavirus.

    It is understood that Mr Johnson remained conscious when he was moved to intensive care, and that it was done as a precaution should be require ventilation.

    The prime minister is likely to have undergone several tests - and it is possible that he will have blood and samples from his throat collected.

    According to the World Health Organisation, about 14% of COVID-19 patients will develop symptoms severe enough to need oxygen, and 5% will need intensive care treatment.

    The latest figures show that the death rate of those admitted to intensive care in the UK now exceeds 50%.

    Dr Simon Clarke, a microbiologist, told Sky News: "I'll say this to you, the NHS, particularly at this moment, doesn't give up intensive care beds just for people to be looked over - it doesn't work like that, even for prime ministers.

    "He would not be in intensive care unless he needed to be in intensive care, especially not at this time, and I think it's probably about time that the press people in Number 10 started levelling with us about what his condition really is."



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    ^ If things get this bad, they'll just keep him on life support for the foreseeable future as any bad news could have horrible affect on the UK and the whole world. An Ariel Sharon-type situation is the worst case scenario.

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    UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson is not on a ventilator in intensive care but has received oxygen support, says Cabinet Office Minister Michael Gove.

    Gove said Downing Street will inform the country if there is any change in the prime minister's condition.

    "The teams at St Thomas' are some of the finest doctors in the country," Gove told BBC Radio 4.

    "The doctors, nurses and other staff will be making appropriate medical decisions and have our full support."


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    According to WHO, intensive care is only required for the worst 5% of cases.

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    Quote Originally Posted by James View Post
    I have a genuinely stubborn knot in the pit of my stomach about this.

    Statistics show overall that when someone is admitted to an ICU with coronavirus symptoms, their chance of survival is barely greater than 50-50.

    If the worst happens, the PM must be considered a casualty of war and given a grand funeral - I just hope his replacement would be up to the task.
    I think nobody in this government is up to it. Perhaps Sunak is. All the old statesmen like Grieve got purged. This lot are careerists with no public service ethic. Ironically Labour are at last getting their act together and look like a party of government again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    I think nobody in this government is up to it. Perhaps Sunak is. All the old statesmen like Grieve got purged. This lot are careerists with no public service ethic. Ironically Labour are at last getting their act together and look like a party of government again
    Why he took Simple home isolation? They should have setup a emergency unit at his home.

    Does he have any existing condition?

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    Prime Minister Boris Johnson's spokesman says he is in a stable condition and is in good spirits but remains in intensive care at St Thomas' hospital in central London.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    According to WHO, intensive care is only required for the worst 5% of cases.
    Or for those that are in prominent positions of power or wealth.

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    I think if /once Johnson makes a full recovery and gets back as a prime minister then I think this will hit home regarding to prioritising the nhs, other social services as paramount to fund these and make sure in future if events like this occur then we are absolutely practically prepared and have a system inline to match the likes of Germany and China.

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    Received a link from a friend today. A Pakistani news channel was running the story that BJ has passed away. #fakenews

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Russian news is state propaganda, after two hundred journalists got disappeared this century. They say what their government tells them.

    The BBC still has some autonomy.
    Lol it’s so cute if he genuinely is calling RT a trustworthy source

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    Boris Johnson is "stable" and in "good spirits" after receiving oxygen treatment for coronavirus while in intensive care, his spokesperson has said.

    Mr Johnson, who spent the night in the intensive care unit (ICU) at St Thomas' Hospital after his Covid-19 symptoms worsened, has not required a ventilator to help him breathe.

    While in the ICU Mr Johnson was tested for pneumonia but later given the all clear, contrary to rumours on social media.

    Meanwhile, the Queen sent a message to Mr Johnson's family and his pregnant partner Carrie Symonds, saying they were in her thoughts and that she wished him a full and speedy recovery, Buckingham Palace said.

    The PM was also wished a "speedy recovery" by Prince William, Prince Charles and his wife Camilla.

    Mr Johnson was originally admitted to St Thomas' on Sunday on the advice of his doctor after continuing to display symptoms of cough and high temperature ten days after testing positive for the virus.

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    The PM's spokesman said: "The Prime Minister has been stable overnight and remains in good spirits.

    "He is receiving standard oxygen treatment and breathing without any other assistance.

    "He has not required mechanical ventilation or non-invasive respiratory support."

    The update came after former prime minister David Cameron said he was "praying" his friend Mr Johnson would get through his illness.

    He told ITV News Mr Johnson is a "very tough, very resilient, very fit person", adding how he's "sure he'll come through this".

    Cabinet minister Brandon Lewis told ITV News Mr Johnson is "fully conscious" and "still the prime minister".

    He said: "It's important for people to be very aware of the fact he's still the prime minister, he's very much conscious but Dominic, yes, who is empowered as the first secretary of state, has been asked to stand in and deputise, by the prime minister."

    The spokesman also gave an update on the running of government in Mr Johnson's absence, saying Dominic Raab, who is "deputising" has the power, along with the cabinet, to respond to an attack on the UK in Mr Johnson ’s absence.

    Mr Raab will also be able to take military action without the consent of the Prime Minister, the spokesman added.

    But he will not be asked to step in to brief the monarch on Boris Johnson's behalf.

    The Prime Minister's official spokesman said: "Buckingham Palace and Her Majesty the Queen have been kept regularly informed about the Prime Minister's condition and that will continue.

    "The Cabinet Secretary and the Prime Minister's principal private secretary will continue their contacts with the Royal Household on the Prime Minister's behalf."

    Reacting to US President Donald Trump's offer of American drugs to help Boris Johnson overcome coronavirus, Downing Street said medical care for the Prime Minister was a decision for his NHS doctors.

    "We are confident the Prime Minister is receiving the best possible care from the National Health Service," the spokesman said.

    "Any treatment he receives is a matter for his doctors."

    Asked whether Mr Raab would field any phone calls with the Queen, the spokesman added: "No, it has been agreed with the Royal Household that weekly audiences will not go ahead."

    Should Mr Raab be forced to self-isolate or take ill, Chancellor Rishi Sunak would be next in line to take over, Downing Street added.

    "In line with the order of precedence, the Chancellor would follow from the Foreign Secretary," Mr Johnson's spokesman said.

    Downing Street said it would look into whether to publish the list for the order of precedence for other Cabinet ministers.

    Asked about reports of Mr Raab seen coughing on Tuesday morning, the spokesman added: "The Foreign Secretary is fine."

    https://www.itv.com/news/2020-04-07/...r-coronavirus/


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    Coronavirus: Rishi Sunak will succeed Dominic Raab if foreign secretary incapacitated, says No 10

    Rishi Sunak will take over prime ministerial duties if Dominic Raab is struck down by coronavirus while Boris Johnson is incapacitated, No 10 has revealed.

    The order of so-called ‘designated survivor’ was revealed as Downing Street described Mr Johnson as “stable” and “in good spirits” – also disclosing he does not have pneumoniaand has still not required a ventilator

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9452571.html

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    Dominic Raab starts with an update on the prime minister's health. He said the PM was "receiving standard oxygen treatment and breathing without any assistance".

    The foreign secretary says Boris Johnson is "receiving the very best care from the excellent medical team" and remained stable overnight.

    He also says he remains in "good spirits" and his progress continues to be monitored closely.

    Mr Raab says there has "been a groundswell of messages of support" and everyone is wishing the prime minister a very speedy recovery.

    He adds: "It comes as a shock to all of us. He is not just a prime minister, not just our boss, but also a colleague and also our friend."

    And he says the cabinet will not "blink or flinch from the task at hand".

    He confirms the total number of deaths in the UK has now reached 6,159, and pays tribute to those who have died.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajdeep View Post
    Coronavirus: Rishi Sunak will succeed Dominic Raab if foreign secretary incapacitated, says No 10

    Rishi Sunak will take over prime ministerial duties if Dominic Raab is struck down by coronavirus while Boris Johnson is incapacitated, No 10 has revealed.

    The order of so-called ‘designated survivor’ was revealed as Downing Street described Mr Johnson as “stable” and “in good spirits” – also disclosing he does not have pneumoniaand has still not required a ventilator

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a9452571.html
    Rishi is a proper coconut from what little I know of him

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    Prime Minister Boris Johnson is "in good spirits" after spending the night in intensive care being treated for coronavirus, No 10 has said.

    Mr Johnson, 55, was stable overnight, is being given oxygen and is not on a ventilator, a spokesman added.

    The foreign secretary said he was confident the the PM would "pull through" because he was a "fighter".

    The Queen has sent a message to Mr Johnson's family and pregnant partner, saying they are in her thoughts.

    Speaking at the daily coronavirus briefing, Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab said Mr Johnson was not just a boss but "also our friend".

    "So all of our thoughts and prayers are with the prime minister at this time, with Carrie and with his whole family," he said

    "And I'm confident he'll pull through because If there's one thing I know about this prime minister: he's a fighter. And he'll be back at the helm, leading us through this crisis in short order."

    'Speedy recovery'

    It comes as Cabinet Office minister Michael Gove became the latest politician to self-isolate.

    Mr Gove said he did not have symptoms but a family member did. He is continuing to work at home.

    As of 17:00 on 6 April, of those hospitalised in the UK who tested positive for coronavirus, 6,159 have died - a record increase of 786 in a day, the Department of Health and Social Care said, compared with 439 on Monday.

    Mr Johnson was admitted to St Thomas' Hospital in central London with "persistent symptoms" of Covid-19 on Sunday and was moved to intensive care on Monday at 19:00 BST after his symptoms worsened.

    Buckingham Palace said the Queen had sent a message to Mr Johnson's family and his partner, Carrie Symonds, saying she was thinking of them, and wished the PM a full and speedy recovery.

    Prince William also tweeted a personal message of sympathy to the PM's family, signing it off with his initial "W", while his father, the Prince of Wales, sent a message from himself and the Duchess of Cornwall wishing Mr Johnson a "speedy recovery", Clarence House said.

    In a statement on Tuesday, a Downing Street spokesman said: "The prime minister has been stable overnight and remains in good spirits. He is receiving standard oxygen treatment and is breathing without any other assistance.

    "He has not required mechanical ventilation or non-invasive respiratory support."

    A ventilator takes over the body's breathing process when disease has caused the lungs to fail.

    Mr Johnson does not have pneumonia, Downing Street added.

    Dr Jon Bennett, president of the British Thoracic Society, said it was "heartening" the PM was receiving "standard oxygen treatment" - through his nose or via a face mask - because in more serious cases it would be delivered through mechanical support, such as continuous positive airway pressure, high flow nasal oxygen or more invasive ventilators.

    The spokesman said that the mood in government is "determined", and ministers have a very clear plan set out by Mr Johnson for responding to the pandemic.

    The prime minister's weekly audience with the Queen will not go ahead, although she will be kept regularly informed about his condition, the spokesman added.

    Speaking to BBC Radio 4's Today programme, Mr Gove pledged that if there is any change in his condition "No 10 will ensure the country is updated".

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-52201048


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    #ClapForBoris @8pm tonight.

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    It’s a scary thought though. A PM of a country like England with every doctor and facilities at his disposal is moved to an ICU and every possible thing is being done. Just imagine the plight of the poor folk and even the middle class folk who have to wait their turn and just can’t barge into a hospital anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Local.Dada View Post
    It’s a scary thought though. A PM of a country like England with every doctor and facilities at his disposal is moved to an ICU and every possible thing is being done. Just imagine the plight of the poor folk and even the middle class folk who have to wait their turn and just can’t barge into a hospital anymore.
    The ultimate leveller.


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    Clap for Boris: Brits urged to applaud Prime Minister as he battles coronavirus

    Social media users have launched a campaign calling for Britons to "Clap for Boris" in a show of support for the Prime Minister as he battles a coronavirus infection.

    Mr Johnson was admitted to St Thomas' Hospital in central London with "persistent symptoms" of Covid-19 on Sunday and was moved to intensive care on Monday evening after his symptoms worsened.

    The Prime Minister is now said to be in a "stable’ condition" and is being given oxygen. He is not on a ventilator, according to his Downing Street office.

    In response to the developments, Twitter users banded together on Tuesday to call for a round of applause for Mr Johnson at 8pm to mirror the way NHS workers battling Covid-19 are applauded each Thursday

    The hashtag #ClapforBoris started trending in the UK soon after, with some users calling on people to clap "whatever your political views are" and regardless of whether they "love him or hate him".

    Others suggested it was time "time for the nation" to support Mr Johnson after he has "supported the nation in every way possible" amid the Covid-19 pandemic.

    "Tonight I shall #ClapforBoris and for everyone facing this vicious virus - he is a symbol of them all," added another.

    Not everyone was behind the idea, however, with many Twitter users saying they would not be applauding the Prime Minister.

    Several people suggested to do so would detract from the "Clap for our Carers" campaign which has seen millions across the country take to their doorsteps and balconies to celebrate NHS workers on Thursday evenings in recent weeks.

    "Don't hijack #ClapForTheNHS to #ClapForBoris," wrote one Twitter user. "The real daily heroes are NHS/Carers/Keyworkers etc not him."

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    Another wrote: "I'll be at work when you all #ClapForBoris providing essential care and support for elderly vulnerable people.

    "You clap if you want to, I'll be too busy providing personal care, with inadequate PPE."

    The online debate came as Cabinet Office minister Michael Gove became the latest politician to self-isolate after a family member showed symptoms associated with Covid-19.

    Mr Gove said he was not displaying any symptoms himself and was continuing to work from home.

    Meanwhile, Foreign Secretary and First Secretary of State Dominic Raab continues to deputise for the Prime Minister and chaired the government's daily coronavirus meeting on Tuesday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajdeep View Post
    #ClapForBoris @8pm tonight.
    I will clap for him when he does something good. His sluggish response and incoherent strategy has cost thousands of British lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    I will clap for him when he does something good. His sluggish response and incoherent strategy has cost thousands of British lives.
    It can also be argued that his sluggish response has saved 1000s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    I will clap for him when he does something good. His sluggish response and incoherent strategy has cost thousands of British lives.
    i agree,I do wish him a speedy recovery, but he took it irresponsibly lightly himself and was joking around about shaking hands etc and now the joke is on him.

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    Boris Johnson has spent a second night in intensive care as he continues to receive treatment for coronavirus.

    The PM is being kept in St Thomas' Hospital in London "for close monitoring", Downing Street said.

    Mr Johnson's condition is "stable" and he remains in "good spirits", his spokesman added on Tuesday evening.

    Downing Street also said the first review into whether the coronavirus lockdown could be eased would not go ahead as planned on Monday next week.

    Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab, who is deputising for the PM, has said he was "confident" the PM would recover from this illness, describing him as a "fighter".

    Speaking at Tuesday's Downing Street coronavirus briefing, he said Mr Johnson was receiving standard oxygen treatment and was breathing without any assistance, such as mechanical ventilation or non-invasive respiratory support.

    No further updates on Mr Johnson's condition are expected until later on Wednesday.

    Meanwhile, the first patients have been admitted to the NHS Nightingale Hospital in east London - a temporary facility set up at the ExCel conference centre.

    The admissions come two weeks after the hospital with a planned capacity of 4,000 was formally announced - although an NHS spokesperson stressed limits had not been reached at other sites in London.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Technics 1210 View Post
    It can also be argued that his sluggish response has saved 1000s.
    Not convincingly. We had a two week head start on Italy and Spain. He wasted it. He only introduced faux-lockdown after Macron threatened to close the border.

    Merkel did the right thing with mass testing early on and very few Germans have died. It helps to have leaders who understand science. Johnson does not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Not convincingly. We had a two week head start on Italy and Spain. He wasted it. He only introduced faux-lockdown after Macron threatened to close the border.

    Merkel did the right thing with mass testing early on and very few Germans have died. It helps to have leaders who understand science. Johnson does not.
    He is criminally negligent. Once this crisis is over he should be arrested for crimes against humanity.
    I mean if deaths go beyong 20,000 what excuse will he have..so many dead and still no accountability? who are they going to blame> Moozlums? Corbyn? The Jews? Sooner or later somebody must bring this vicious tory party to account..their ideology has lead to this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by the Great Khan View Post
    He is criminally negligent. Once this crisis is over he should be arrested for crimes against humanity.
    I mean if deaths go beyong 20,000 what excuse will he have..so many dead and still no accountability? who are they going to blame> Moozlums? Corbyn? The Jews? Sooner or later somebody must bring this vicious tory party to account..their ideology has lead to this!
    Yep. Modelling suggests we are going to be the worst hit nation in Europe. I can only hope that the Govt starts funding the NHS properly after this.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...study-predicts

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    UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson is said to be "comfortable" after spending his second night in intensive care.

    Health Minister Edward Argar gave the update to BBC Breakfast on Wednesday morning.

    "I understand he is comfortable, he's stable, he's in good spirits, (and) while he's had oxygen, he hasn't been on a ventilator," Argar said.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Yep. Modelling suggests we are going to be the worst hit nation in Europe. I can only hope that the Govt starts funding the NHS properly after this.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...study-predicts
    exactly, some modelling is showing up-to 60,000 dead by august..i mean just think about those numbers. Anyone of us could get this thing and be next. Yet they say clap for this guy? Imagine if some kind of terror campaign killed 800 people per day. And the PM went on holiday. What would the brits do?
    Its just mind boggling how people are just nonchalantly going about things.."yeah just oldies dying blah blah"..

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    Quote Originally Posted by the Great Khan View Post
    exactly, some modelling is showing up-to 60,000 dead by august..i mean just think about those numbers. Anyone of us could get this thing and be next. Yet they say clap for this guy? Imagine if some kind of terror campaign killed 800 people per day. And the PM went on holiday. What would the brits do?
    Its just mind boggling how people are just nonchalantly going about things.."yeah just oldies dying blah blah"..
    The real fear is when the clinicians start to go sick or drop from exhaustion. All the volunteer paramedics where I live are stood down, held in reserve to man the ambulances and wards.

    This is no Falklands War where the few hundred glorious dead were far away. People will change their minds when the death toll at home starts to impact on their lives. The economy will tank and then Brexit will happen and make it even worse.

    Labour have got their act together and will present a credible alternative to more people and the winds will change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Not convincingly. We had a two week head start on Italy and Spain. He wasted it. He only introduced faux-lockdown after Macron threatened to close the border.

    Merkel did the right thing with mass testing early on and very few Germans have died. It helps to have leaders who understand science. Johnson does not.
    This guy!

    We are talking about trillions of pounds being risked in the economy!! You don’t just call a complete shut down in 1 hour of seeing how things are unfolding in other countries. It doesn’t work like that! He did his best to hold it off so that he gives the cabinet enough time to work out how they need to handle this with as little damage as possible. We have been dented by millions of pounds in loss but this could have been billions if not trillions due to a sudden shut down, including mass looting and riots!

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    UK PM Boris Johnson 'responding to treatment'

    Our reporters have been briefed on the health of UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson, who has spent two nights in intensive care as he continues to receive treatment for coronavirus.

    A spokesman said the prime minister "remains clinically stable and is responding to treatment".

    "He continues to be cared for in the ICU at St Thomas' Hospital (in London)."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    This guy!

    We are talking about trillions of pounds being risked in the economy!! You don’t just call a complete shut down in 1 hour of seeing how things are unfolding in other countries. It doesn’t work like that! He did his best to hold it off so that he gives the cabinet enough time to work out how they need to handle this with as little damage as possible. We have been dented by millions of pounds in loss but this could have been billions if not trillions due to a sudden shut down, including mass looting and riots!
    Nobody has looted or rioted across Europe under much more draconian lockdown than here. People are sensible, mainly.

    The current measures are estimated to cost the Treasury £200B.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Nobody has looted or rioted across Europe under much more draconian lockdown than here. People are sensible, mainly.

    The current measures are estimated to cost the Treasury £200B.
    If you shut down everything straight way, it would create mass panic as it suggests that this is a measure someone is taking if there is a threat of a nuclear bomb about to go off anytime. People earning £60-100 a day to run their families losing each and every penny within a matter of seconds due to an invisible threat which they themselves feel would not even harm them.

    Use your common sense here, decisions as such are not made like a movie script where things are moving fast. This government has surprisingly done the best they can with the dynamics of the country and the serious money that is being affected. They have lacked on Testing measures but besides that, they have definitely saved more lives than what they would have lost

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    If you shut down everything straight way, it would create mass panic as it suggests that this is a measure someone is taking if there is a threat of a nuclear bomb about to go off anytime. People earning £60-100 a day to run their families losing each and every penny within a matter of seconds due to an invisible threat which they themselves feel would not even harm them.

    Use your common sense here, decisions as such are not made like a movie script where things are moving fast. This government has surprisingly done the best they can with the dynamics of the country and the serious money that is being affected. They have lacked on Testing measures but besides that, they have definitely saved more lives than what they would have lost
    They could have started that process two weeks earlier. Instead they faffed about herd immunity and now there will be thousands of avaoidable deaths.

    Look at how fast the Germans reacted, what measures they put in place and how few of them have died by comparison. Of course it helps that they have four times the number of hospital beds per capita andf are fully staffed while we are 30,000 nurses short.

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    Boris Johnson is "responding to treatment" for coronavirus as he spends his third day in hospital.

    The prime minister was being kept in St Thomas' Hospital in London "for close monitoring" and remained clinically stable, Downing Street said.

    Downing Street said he was not working but could contact those he needed to.

    No 10 said a review of lockdown rules would go ahead as planned next week, but the public must "stick with" the measures at what was a "critical time".

    A ban on public gatherings of more than two people and the closure of shops selling non-essential goods were among the series of restrictions announced by Mr Johnson on 23 March to tackle the spread of coronavirus.

    Downing Street said a relaxation of the rules would be considered "on or around" the three-week mark on Monday, as was promised by the PM when he introduced the measures.

    But health minister Edward Argar said the peak in cases must pass "before we can think about making changes", adding: "It's too early to say when we will reach that peak."

    The lockdown in Wales will be extended and not lifted next week, First Minister Mark Drakeford has confirmed.

    He said there were signs people staying at home was "having an impact" but "the efforts we are making are not over yet".

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    Boris Johnson's condition 'improving' - Sunak

    The prime minister remains in intensive care "where his condition is improving", Chancellor Rishi Sunak says.

    "He has been sitting up in bed and engaging positively with the clinical team," he adds.


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    Boris Johnson remains in intensive care but is "improving" and "sitting up in bed" engaging with doctors, Chancellor Rishi Sunak has said.

    The prime minister was moved into intensive care at St Thomas' Hospital in London on Monday night - more than a week after he tested positive for coronavirus - when his health deteriorated.

    Mr Johnson was initially admitted to hospital for tests on Sunday night after continuing to display COVID-19 symptoms.

    The chancellor of the exchequer Rishi Sunak leads the government's daily COVID-19 press conference

    Speaking at Downing Street's daily coronavirus briefing on Wednesday, Mr Sunak said the prime minister was receiving "excellent care" from his NHS team.

    "The latest from the hospital is the prime minister remains in intensive care where his condition is improving," the chancellor said.

    "I can also tell you that he has been sitting up in bed and engaging positively with the clinical team.

    "The prime minister is not only my colleague and my boss but also my friend, and my thoughts are with him and his family."

    He added: "We'll all trying our absolute best, none of us are superhuman and impervious to getting sick during this process.

    "And that's what makes this whole thing so awful for all of us."

    Responding to the update on the prime minister, Health Secretary Matt Hancock posted on Twitter: "So good that the PM is sitting up and his condition is improving.

    "He will fight through!"

    Downing Street later said Mr Johnson "continues to make steady progress", with Number 10 having earlier described the prime minister as remaining in "good spirits" after spending his third night in hospital.

    Mr Johnson was responding to treatment and no longer working, his spokesman said.

    The prime minister has received oxygen support but is breathing without any other assistance.

    Speaking alongside Mr Sunak at Wednesday's press briefing, the government's deputy chief scientific adviser Professor Angela McLean said the spread of coronavirus in the UK was "not accelerating out of control".

    NHS England's national medical director Professor Stephen Powis said the UK was "beginning to see the benefits" of lockdown measures in slowing the spread of COVID-19.

    But he warned now "is not the time to become complacent" and appeared to admonish Tottenham Hotspur manager Jose Mourinho for holding a training session with one of the football club's players.

    Prof Powis said: "It's not the time to think that the job is being done.

    "This is the time to continue... whether you're me, whether you're a member of the public, frankly if you're a football team, to continue to keep with social distancing and ensure that the hard work - and the hardship that everybody is no doubt encountering - leads to those benefits."


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    Quote Originally Posted by UP View Post
    Dumb people don’t become PMs and win a huge mandate.
    George Bush, Donald Trump?

    Dumb in the UK means stupid/ignorant people not that they are not sucessful.


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    Best wishes to Boris.

    He is a fighter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    George Bush, Donald Trump?

    Dumb in the UK means stupid/ignorant people not that they are not sucessful.
    Trump isn’t dumb. He’s very ignorant, but is also shrewd. He is good at playing on white people’s sense of entitlement and making himself look like the solution to imaginary grievances.

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    Boris Johnson is "mentally able to make decisions" and remains "accessible" to his government team, according to the former defence minister.

    The prime minister has now spent three nights in intensive care with the coronavirus.

    Doubts have been expressed as to whether the cabinet will be willing to make major decisions before Mr Johnson recovers, including when the UK lockdown could be lifted.

    But with the PM's condition said to be improving, the former defence minister Tobias Ellwood indicated that he remains capable of signing off any big decisions.

    Asked on Sky's Kay Burley@Breakfast who would be responsible should another significant challenge emerge, Mr Ellwood said: "The prime minister is mentally able to make decisions.

    "He's accessible as well.

    "What we're going through is unorthodox, we've not been here before, but I have been given assurances that the decision-making process can work in this difficult scenario."

    Downing Street confirmed on Wednesday that Mr Johnson was in "good spirits" and making "steady progress".

    Chancellor Rishi Sunak added that the prime minister had been sitting up in bed and "engaging positively" with medical staff.

    However, his spokesman confirmed he is no longer working.

    The chancellor of the exchequer Rishi Sunak leads the government's daily COVID-19 press conference

    Mr Johnson has received oxygen but has not been on a ventilator.

    Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab is deputising for him and has been chairing the daily meeting of the government's "war cabinet" since the prime minister was admitted to St Thomas' Hospital on Sunday.

    He will also lead Thursday's meeting of the emergency COBRA committee, which includes leaders of the devolved governments in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

    They will discuss how to review the UK's lockdown measures, which Mr Johnson had committed to look again after three weeks - a period which ends on Easter Monday.

    The chancellor has said the review itself will be next week, when data from SAGE (the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies) becomes available.

    The lockdown is expected be extended because doubts remain as to when the coronavirus outbreak might peak in the UK.

    Wales has already committed to extending its lockdown beyond the Easter weekend, with the forecast warm weather again raising concerns people will be tempted to break social distancing rules.

    Culture Secretary Oliver Dowden indicated to Sky News that the lockdown would indeed continue across the whole of the country.

    "This is the moment at which we need to stick to the path that we've chosen," he told Kay Burley@Breakfast.

    "We shouldn't be giving up this Easter weekend."

    The latest figures on Wednesday reported another 938 deaths across the UK, taking the number of deaths in hospitals to 7,097.

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    The longer he stays in ICU the more chance of him never coming out of it, God Forbid. I hope he makes a full recovery, but three nights and counting sounds ominous.

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    The prime minister "continues to improve" in intensive care and had a "good night" in hospital, Downing Street has said.


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    Prime Minister Boris Johnson has been moved out of intensive care and back into a general ward at St Thomas' Hospital where he will "receive close monitoring" during his early recovery - Downing Street spokesman.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    Trump isn’t dumb. He’s very ignorant, but is also shrewd. He is good at playing on white people’s sense of entitlement and making himself look like the solution to imaginary grievances.
    Ignorance is dumb imo, sure he is shrewd and fake.


    Boris is out of intensive care but should be in charge at all or be making any decisions? He is clueless when fully fit.


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    Prime Minister Boris Johnson has been moved out of intensive care but remains in hospital, Downing Street has said.

    Mr Johnson has been receiving treatment for coronavirus at St Thomas' Hospital in London since Sunday.

    No 10 said he "has been moved this evening from intensive care back to the ward, where he will receive close monitoring during the early phase of his recovery".

    A spokesman added: "He is in extremely good spirits."

    He was taken to hospital on Sunday - 10 days after testing positive - and was moved to intensive care on Monday.

    'Good night'

    He was receiving "standard oxygen treatment" in intensive care and had not been on a ventilator, Downing Street said earlier.

    The PM "continues to improve" after a "good night" and thanked the NHS for the "brilliant care" he has received, the spokesman added.

    A total of 7,978 people have now died in hospital after testing positive for coronavirus, up by 881 on Wednesday.

    Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab has urged the public to stay indoors over this Easter weekend, saying that after almost three weeks of lockdown "we are starting to see the impact of the sacrifices we've all made".

    "Let's not ruin it now," he added.

    Mr Raab, who is deputising for the PM, said a decision on whether to ease the lockdown measures would not come until "the end of next week".

    'World-class care'

    Giving his reaction to the latest development, US President Donald Trump tweeted: "Great News: Prime Minister Boris Johnson has just been moved out of Intensive Care. Get well Boris!!!"

    Health Secretary Matt Hancock tweeted: "So good that the prime minister is out of intensive care and on the road to recovery. The NHS is there for us all and I know our amazing NHS staff have given him their characteristic world-class care."

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    If the man cant function and perform his day to day duties, he should resign and give charge to someone who can

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    If the man cant function and perform his day to day duties, he should resign and give charge to someone who can
    Yes in any sensible country. Here we will have his cabinet calling him, asking him to make the final decisions. They know Boris will take the blame and their future careers will be safe, regardless if he makes the wrong decisions which we are all used to.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    If the man cant function and perform his day to day duties, he should resign and give charge to someone who can
    Why resign? Because Boris has the 'flu'?

    That's like saying you should resign from work when you are ill.

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    Good news about Boris coming out of intensive care. Hope he recovers soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    If the man cant function and perform his day to day duties, he should resign and give charge to someone who can
    Why would Boris resign? He’s temporarily out of action due to illness, and he will probably make a full recovery from it by the end of the month.

    He has a deputy. That’s fine.

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    Prime Minister Boris Johnson remains in hospital after being moved out of intensive care but is in “extremely good spirits”, Downing Street says.

    Mr Johnson has been receiving treatment for coronavirus at St Thomas' Hospital in London since Sunday – 10 days after he tested positive – and was taken into intensive care on Monday.

    On Thursday evening a spokesman said he had "been moved from intensive care back to the ward, where he will receive close monitoring during the early phase of his recovery".

    Mr Johnson’s father, Stanley, said his family were relieved, grateful and thankful for the work of the NHS, but that the prime minister must now “rest up”.

    “It has actually, I think, served an amazing purpose in the sense it’s got the whole country to realise this is a serious event,” he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.

    “I don’t think you can say that this is out of the woods now, he has to take time. I cannot believe you can walk away from this and go straight back to Downing Street and pick up the reins without a period of readjustment."


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    Prime Minister Boris Johnson remains in hospital after being moved out of intensive care but is in “extremely good spirits”, Downing Street says.

    Mr Johnson has been receiving treatment for coronavirus at St Thomas' Hospital in London since Sunday – 10 days after he tested positive – and was taken into intensive care on Monday.

    On Thursday evening a spokesman said he had "been moved from intensive care back to the ward, where he will receive close monitoring during the early phase of his recovery".

    Mr Johnson’s father, Stanley, said his family were relieved, grateful and thankful for the work of the NHS, but that the prime minister must now “rest up”.

    “It has actually, I think, served an amazing purpose in the sense it’s got the whole country to realise this is a serious event,” he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.

    “I don’t think you can say that this is out of the woods now, he has to take time. I cannot believe you can walk away from this and go straight back to Downing Street and pick up the reins without a period of readjustment."


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