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    Top twenty cricketers of the 21st century

    In a time when there is no cricket on during the English summer, when the grass is green and the sun is shining but there is no whack of leather on willow...how about making a list?

    The first 20 years have seen some great cricket and cricketers....plus we all get our blood boiling with these lists, so what say you??

    Just a couple tidbits - to be eligible the player must have played a min of 20 tests and 50 LOs (can combine ODIs and T20s when possible).

    1. Muttiah Muralitharan
    2. Ricky Ponting
    3. Glenn McGrath
    4. Jacques Kallis
    5. Sachin Tendulkar
    6. Shane Warne
    7. Virat Kohli
    8. Steven Smith
    9. Dale Steyn
    10. Adam Gilchrist
    11. AB de Villiers
    12. Hashim Amla
    13. Younis Khan
    14. Kevin Pietersen
    15. Joe Root
    16. Graeme Smith
    17. Alastair Cook
    18. Kumar Sangakkara
    19. Kane Williamson
    20. Andrew Flintoff

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    So these are Top 20 cricketers in all formats of the 21st Century?


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    Sangakkara must be higher and Rahul Dravid is missing.

    Also, a case can be made for Jimmy Anderson, Michael Clarke and Ravi Ashwin

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    Younis Khan the strokless wonder of Odis rated higher than KP, Sanga, Smith who were decent players in both formats of the game?

    Younis Khan should be very low in the list Probably at 20. I would even Consider Flintoff as a better overall Cricketer than YK. You cannot have one format specialists in the list above players who were masters in both formats.

    Also, Williamson ahead of YK? Howcome.. KW is a decent ODi player and one of the best captain's in the format.

    Ita okay to rank Ponting, Mc Grath above SRT but he should be above Kallis.

    I will just swap YK with Rahul Dravid in the list.
    Last edited by liam26; 28th March 2020 at 22:43.

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    My top 20 would be

    1. Muttiah Muralitharan
    2. Ricky Ponting
    3. Glenn McGrath
    4. Jacques Kallis
    5. Sachin Tendulkar
    6. Shane Warne
    7. Dale Steyn
    8. Virat Kohli
    9. Steven Smith
    10. Adam Gilchrist
    11. Kumar Sangakkara
    12. Rahul Dravid
    13. AB de Villiers
    14. James Anderson
    15. Kevin Pietersen
    16. Michael Clarke
    17. Hashim Amla
    19. Younis Khan
    20. Alastair Cook

    Flintoff is overrated. Stokes has surpassed him already IMO.

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    *18. Graeme Smith.

    Missed one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ab Fan View Post
    My top 20 would be

    1. Muttiah Muralitharan
    2. Ricky Ponting
    3. Glenn McGrath
    4. Jacques Kallis
    5. Sachin Tendulkar
    6. Shane Warne
    7. Dale Steyn
    8. Virat Kohli
    9. Steven Smith
    10. Adam Gilchrist
    11. Kumar Sangakkara
    12. Rahul Dravid
    13. AB de Villiers
    14. James Anderson
    15. Kevin Pietersen
    16. Michael Clarke
    17. Hashim Amla
    19. Younis Khan
    20. Alastair Cook

    Flintoff is overrated. Stokes has surpassed him already IMO.
    Inzimam?
    Sehwag?
    Both are all format players, so better than cook and khan
    Last edited by jeeteshssaxena; 29th March 2020 at 12:28.

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    Premature thread, we're only 20 years into the 21st century.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeeteshssaxena View Post
    Inzimam?
    Misses out because he played more than half of his games in 90s and others who are in this list have their entire career covered up.

    Anyways, it's a top 20 list, so many players will be missing. I just felt Dravid certainly should be there, hence included him.

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    Top 20 cricketers(not in particular order) :
    Sachin
    Kohli
    Lara
    Ponting
    Sangakkara
    Steven Smith
    Kallis
    Gilchrist
    Ab devilliers
    Rahul dravid
    Hashim Amla
    Kevin pietersen
    Inzimam
    Sehwag
    Graeme smith
    Glenn Mcgrath
    Steyn
    Anderson
    Warne
    Murali

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeeteshssaxena View Post
    Top 20 cricketers(not in particular order) :
    Sachin
    Kohli
    Lara
    Ponting
    Sangakkara
    Steven Smith
    Kallis
    Gilchrist
    Ab devilliers
    Rahul dravid
    Hashim Amla
    Kevin pietersen
    Inzimam
    Sehwag
    Graeme smith
    Glenn Mcgrath
    Steyn
    Anderson
    Warne
    Murali
    Matthew Hayden?

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    Kallis is #1.

    I would have Stokes in for Flintoff.

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    Interesting list. Even more interesting to notice that guy holding top two ranking positions in Test & ODI all-rounders list for best part of a decade with 10k+ Test/ODI runs at close to 40 and ~500 wickets at ~31 with 14 hundreds and 20 5for, doesn’t make top 20 list in only 20 years of this century ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ted123 View Post
    Matthew Hayden?
    Who will he replace in my list?
    All batsman in my list are better players than him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeeteshssaxena View Post
    Who will he replace in my list?
    All batsman in my list are better players than him.
    G Smith and Amla

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Interesting list. Even more interesting to notice that guy holding top two ranking positions in Test & ODI all-rounders list for best part of a decade with 10k+ Test/ODI runs at close to 40 and ~500 wickets at ~31 with 14 hundreds and 20 5for, doesn’t make top 20 list in only 20 years of this century ....
    Shakib should degintely make it there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DRsohail View Post
    Shakib should degintely make it there.
    recent events would bar him forever.

    Que for attacks on Aussies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    recent events would bar him forever.

    Que for attacks on Aussies.
    Won't - not for this recent event for sure, he wasn't convicted for any wrong doing, rather barred for two years (effectively one year), for not disclosing a possible corrupt effort. In that list, I see the name of Shane Warne - first he was banned for a year for doping failure, before that he was secretly fined by CA to leak out team information to bookies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ab Fan View Post
    My top 20 would be

    1. Muttiah Muralitharan
    2. Ricky Ponting
    3. Glenn McGrath
    4. Jacques Kallis
    5. Sachin Tendulkar
    6. Shane Warne
    7. Dale Steyn
    8. Virat Kohli
    9. Steven Smith
    10. Adam Gilchrist
    11. Kumar Sangakkara
    12. Rahul Dravid
    13. AB de Villiers
    14. James Anderson
    15. Kevin Pietersen
    16. Michael Clarke
    17. Hashim Amla
    19. Younis Khan
    20. Alastair Cook

    Flintoff is overrated. Stokes has surpassed him already IMO.
    This list seems the best.


    Quote Originally Posted by Convict View Post
    Don't worry bro. Your other thread allows for rain. Maybe it will save you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by liam26 View Post
    Younis Khan the strokless wonder of Odis rated higher than KP, Sanga, Smith who were decent players in both formats of the game?

    Younis Khan should be very low in the list Probably at 20. I would even Consider Flintoff as a better overall Cricketer than YK. You cannot have one format specialists in the list above players who were masters in both formats.

    Also, Williamson ahead of YK? Howcome.. KW is a decent ODi player and one of the best captain's in the format.

    Ita okay to rank Ponting, Mc Grath above SRT but he should be above Kallis.

    I will just swap YK with Rahul Dravid in the list.
    Honestly, I think Kane is a better ODI player than he is a Test. He's world class and a rock for us in ODIs, I have more faith in him in that format than I do Tests.
    Last edited by Aman; 30th March 2020 at 12:30.


    Quote Originally Posted by Convict View Post
    Don't worry bro. Your other thread allows for rain. Maybe it will save you?


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    Sachin Tendulkar
    Ricky Ponting
    Jacques Kallis
    Shane Warne
    Muralidharan
    Glenn McGrath
    Virat Kohli
    Mathew Hayden
    AB De Villers
    Kumar Sangakkara
    Rahul Dravid
    Inzamam Ul Haq
    Adam Gilchrist
    Mahela Jayawardane
    Kevin Petersen
    MS Dhoni
    Virender Sehwag
    Younis khan
    Brendan Mccullum
    Dale Steyn

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeeteshssaxena View Post
    Who will he replace in my list?
    All batsman in my list are better players than him.
    Hayden is a superior batsman than Sehwag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aman View Post
    This list seems the best.
    I didn't realise but Hayden and Sehwag both deserve a place in my top 20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilly View Post
    G Smith and Amla
    Amla was a better odi player than haddin and an equally good test cricketer.

    Graeme smith and hayden were equally good batsmen but smiths captaincy gives him a slight edge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mobashir View Post
    Hayden is a superior batsman than Sehwag.
    Both have similar averages in test cricket with similar weaknesses against seam and swing but sehwag was a better odi cricketer.

    Sehwag's test strike rate is higher than haddins odi strike rate which explains how dominant he was, a once in a generation player by all means.

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    1. Mcgrath(won everything)
    2. Gilchrist(Undisputed goat WK batsman)
    3. Kallis(Probably the best ever cricketer)
    4. Warne(best ever leggie)
    5. Murali(Best ever offie)
    6. Ponting(best batsman of 2000's)
    7. Kohli(best batsman of 2010's)
    8. Steyn(2nd best fast bowler of the century)
    9. Tendulkar
    10. S. Smith
    11. Lara
    12. G. Smith
    13. Anderson
    14. ABD
    15. Stokes
    16. Sakib
    17. Hayden
    18. Shewag
    19. Dhoni
    20. Ashwin

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    Surprised I haven't seen a lot of Dhoni. He won 2 world cups and a champion trophy in this span and has had years of phenomenal batting under his belt.

    Not a lot of Shakib either but all else seems good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeeteshssaxena View Post
    Both have similar averages in test cricket with similar weaknesses against seam and swing but sehwag was a better odi cricketer.

    Sehwag's test strike rate is higher than haddins odi strike rate which explains how dominant he was, a once in a generation player by all means.
    Sehwag was tremendous batsman. At the start of the match he is the first wicket you want. Till he is in you can't relax. Jus think Hayden was better and more complete batsman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    So these are Top 20 cricketers in all formats of the 21st Century?
    Yes

    Quote Originally Posted by Ab Fan View Post
    Sangakkara must be higher and Rahul Dravid is missing.

    Also, a case can be made for Jimmy Anderson, Michael Clarke and Ravi Ashwin
    Man there's so many names that could be considered...but there's only 20 places.

    Quote Originally Posted by hafizexpress View Post
    Surprised I haven't seen a lot of Dhoni. He won 2 world cups and a champion trophy in this span and has had years of phenomenal batting under his belt.

    Not a lot of Shakib either but all else seems good.
    We remember the glory days of Dhoni the cricketer but it's been roughly 10 years now where he has been anywhere near a truly athletic keeper and maybe half that time where he has been a dangerous batsman in any format. I think he isn't really a truly great cricketer, more of a great icon. Anyway, just my opinion and why he may be overlooked by others.


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