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    Netflix Tiger King - views?

    I initially thought it was a spoof but its about real people!

    I mean what does that say about America?



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    Netflix's Tiger King star Joe Exotic has been hospitalized after contracting COVID-19 in a US prison.

    He is serving a 22-year sentence in a federal jail in Texas.

    The reality star was imprisoned on the charges of animal abuse and two counts of murder for hire.

    His partner Dillon Passage recently expressed concern that Joe would contract the killer disease.

    According to a report from the prison, Joe had been self-isolating but has now contracted the virus.

    Local media reported that he has been shifted to a hospital for treatment.

    Netflix recently released his documentary which inspired memes over his dress, lifestyle surrounded by tigers and guns.


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    And we fuss about likes of Shoaib Akhtar etc - these guys are on a different plain!


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    Damn that Carole Baskin!


    Pakistan is that kid who never studies for his exams but is surprised when he fails.

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    When the real Tony Montana is probably the most normal person in the show, you know you’re about to watch car crash TV.

    Surreal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belawal2014 View Post
    Damn that Carole Baskin!
    Did you pick up her Freudian slip?

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    Quote Originally Posted by miandadrules View Post
    Did you pick up her Freudian slip?

    The sardine oil?

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    Quote Originally Posted by miandadrules View Post
    Did you pick up her Freudian slip?
    Quote Originally Posted by uberkoen View Post
    The sardine oil?


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    I really don't think she killed her husband. He was involved in something fishy definitely and it was probably a drug related hit or something. It is hinted towards in the show when his lawyer says something about throwing him off the gulf of mexico. Also, he went about saying how if he pulled this off it would be the best thing ever or something along those lines.

    Let's not forget he was making flights regularly by keeping below the radar to areas regularly used to smuggle drugs in the country.




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    Rednecks at their finest!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigboii View Post
    Rednecks at their finest!
    I really thought this was a spoof of some kind - cannot imagine such people actually exist


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    I really thought this was a spoof of some kind - cannot imagine such people actually exist
    I can show you ten times weirder things than this in actual REAL LIFE these southern people do and most of the things you don't even wanna know its quite depressing tbh
    This is nothing!

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    Quote Originally Posted by uberkoen View Post
    The sardine oil?
    Yep


    Better luck next time

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    Quote Originally Posted by uberkoen View Post
    I really don't think she killed her husband. He was involved in something fishy definitely and it was probably a drug related hit or something. It is hinted towards in the show when his lawyer says something about throwing him off the gulf of mexico. Also, he went about saying how if he pulled this off it would be the best thing ever or something along those lines.

    Let's not forget he was making flights regularly by keeping below the radar to areas regularly used to smuggle drugs in the country.
    Sounds reasonable.

    The source of his money was never explained.

    “Midas touch” indeed.


    Better luck next time

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    (CNN)If you ever need an example of how misogyny in America is alive and well -- or how we elected Donald Trump as president -- look no further than the victim-blaming response to the new Netflix documentary "Tiger King."

    The show (spoiler warning!) focuses on Joseph Allen Maldonado-Passage, aka "Joe Exotic," who describes himself as a "gay, gun-carrying redneck with a mullet" and who at one point claimed to own more tigers than anyone else in North America. He breeds cubs for petting, an exploitative and cruel money-maker. And he's currently sitting in prison.

    "Tiger King" is shocking, sensational and addictive to watch, with each new character more absurd than the next, and more twists and turns than should be possible in a series that tells a true(ish) story. The other so-called "Big Cat" men in the documentary who have dealings with Joe Exotic include one who is portrayed (in a characterization that he contests) more like a cult leader than anything else. He allegedly keeps a harem of women he first employed as teenage girls, whom he allegedly under-feeds and barely pays.

    For the millions of us stuck at home thanks to coronavirus, it's exactly the kind of absurd escapism we crave -- even as many of us watch with some discomfort at the tabloid-y feel, and the gut reaction that there's something pretty unethical going on with the documentary's production.

    The problem is the misogyny.

    No story is complete without tension, conflict and a villain. In "Tiger King," the villain isn't any of the many sadistic men who allegedly mistreat or abuse women, animals and often both.

    'Tiger King:' Where are they now?

    Baskin is Joe Exotic's foil, a less brash and more polished nemesis who advocates against roadside zoos and keeping big cats as pets. The documentary-makers portray a "both sides" view of the Carole v. Joe conflict, which in reality goes something like this: Carole Baskin advocates for backyard tiger breeding operations, including Joe's, to be shut down; Joe spends about a decade threatening Baskin in grotesque and often sexually violent terms, posting videos of him shoving a dildo into the mouth of a Carole Baskin blow-up doll before shooting the doll in the head, and holding up an item meant to look like her head in a jar.

    In January, Joe was sentenced to 22 years in prison for a murder-for-hire plot targeting Baskin, and for illegally killing five of his own tigers. And yet thanks to the decision of the documentarians to cast Carole as a moral scold, a hypocrite, and Joe's equal and opposite adversary, viewers walk away convinced that Baskin is just as bad as him.

    Now, many viewers have two demands: #FreeJoeExotic, and jail Carole Baskin.

    When it comes to Baskin's alleged wrongdoings, there are no arrests, convictions, admissions or hard evidence, and so the show deals mostly in insinuations, misdirection and disgust at the fact that she had the gall to fight back against sustained abuse.

    The documentary claims, for example, that Baskin doesn't pay her staff; Baskin says her organization is a non-profit staffed by a few paid employees and assisted largely by volunteers who donate their time. It claims Baskin also profits from big cats because she runs an animal sanctuary -- but there is a huge difference between running a big cat rescue, where the animals can roam and people can observe them, and running a roadside cub petting zoo where wild animals are trained to perform, and babies are taken from their mothers when they are just days or even hours old.

    The documentary could have focused on these serious animal welfare issues; instead, it leaned into the zany characters, emphasizing all of their "love" for their cats, and suggesting that all of them are equally interested in self-aggrandizement and fame. Baskin's legal fights against Joe Exotic are framed as evidence of her single-minded determination to squash him; in reality, she simply wanted him to stop threatening her and stop abusing animals.

    One damning bit of the documentary is the claim that Baskin and her former husband used to breed big cats themselves. That's true -- but as happens to a number of people who think a big cat might make a good pet, reality changes their perspective. Baskin learned first-hand the problems of treating wild animals like pets, and it fueled her shift in perspective. She stopped breeding animals, and began to advocate for outlawing the practice. She turned her land into a sanctuary for big cats who were abandoned or abused. Yes, her nonprofit makes money from these same cats; yes, she also cages cats (although Baskin says her enclosures are much larger and more humane than those used by roadside zoos).

    In response to criticisms of "Tiger King" from Baskin and other participants, the producer Rebecca Chaiklin told the Los Angeles Times, "I would just say we were completely forthright with the characters. With any project that goes on for five years, things evolve and change, and we followed it as any good storyteller does."

    In the same interview, producer Eric Goode added that Baskin talked about her own personal life and "certainly wasn't coerced." Chaiklin denied the critique that "Tiger King" is sensationalized entertainment that paid people to participate, noting that producers paid to license archival and personal footage but "categorically, we do not pay people for interviews."

    'Tiger King' is the weird docu-series distraction we can use right now

    Baskin may not be anywhere close to a perfect conservation hero -- there are a whole lot of organizations that do better work when it comes to advocating for big cats in the wild, including the National Geographic Big Cats Initiative and Panthera -- but other welfare animal advocates say she has an excellent reputation, and it's clear that her organization is not on par with cub petting zoos. And yet the documentary misses all sense of proportion, implying that her operation and her motivations are comparable to the cub petting zoos she tries to shut down, and the men who run them.

    Finally, there is the sensational implication that Baskin murdered her husband, Don Lewis (whose 1997 disappearance has never been solved), and fed him to her tigers. Baskin was never arrested, let alone charged -- unlike Joe Exotic, who was convicted of murder for hire and currently sits in prison. The sheriff of Hillsborough County, Florida, told the New York Times that, when it comes to Don Lewis,

    "We don't have any type of evidence, not one piece, that suggests that he was killed."

    Thanks to the Netflix documentary, the police are nevertheless receiving new tips, none of them with credible leads.
    Even if you don't walk away from the documentary thinking Baskin was uniquely terrible or the only villain, the message is that, at least, she is just as bad as the long line of ludicrous, narcissistic men who allegedly threaten and abuse women or animals -- that everyone in the series is terrible. And that kind of both-sides moral equivalence between a man who hired someone to murder a woman and the woman he contracted to murder is the whole of the problem.

    As Willa Paskin wrote in Slate, this portrayal was a choice on the part of the documentary-makers. The saga of Joe Exotic and his attempted hit on Carole Baskin was covered very differently by journalists who covered the story for reputable publications, including Texas Monthly and Longreads.

    You don't have to believe that Carole Baskin is a hero or even a decent person. But even if the bulk of what the documentary alleges and insinuates about her is true, she's still far from the show's most despicable character. And yet she's the one who has received the lion's share of the post-documentary outrage.

    I can't help but watch the conversation about Carole Baskin, Joe Exotic, and all the vile men of "Tiger King," without thinking back to the 2016 presidential election, when a crass but entertaining carnival barker who bragged about grabbing women's genitals and had zero experience in politics nonetheless won against a competent, deeply intelligent, extremely qualified woman.

    The dynamic, of course, is not identical here. But the reductionism and insistence on using the 'both-sides' approach is: the argument that everyone in politics lies, so it's not such a big deal that Trump does; that everyone in politics is corrupt, and Hillary Clinton is just as bad as Donald Trump. It lets us bring an imperfect but very obviously better candidate down to the level of a truly terrible man, and tell ourselves they're basically the same. Some perhaps think, 'Hey, he's at least entertaining and tells it like it is.'

    Hating a woman who challenges a far more loathsome man is particularly easy to do when we see the woman as a scold. That's what seems to have so offended people about Carole Baskin: She was trying to boss around Joe Exotic and ruin his business; she's a hypocritical nag. We have a real cultural problem with women on a mission, especially if we perceive them as berating men, and especially when we see them attempting to exert power over men or take power that we subconsciously believe belongs to men.
    And so a lot of us end up cheering for the guy.

    Joe Exotic, like the President, takes any opportunity to brag about the press coverage he's receiving -- and he's loving the popularity of "Tiger King." Carole Baskin, meanwhile, is calling the show "salacious" and published her version of the facts on her website while inundated with press calls and, I would guess, a lot of ugliness. Many viewers are perversely demanding that Joe Exotic be freed, and You don't have to feel guilty for watching and enjoying "Tiger King." You don't have to like Carole Baskin. But it is a good moment to ask, why do so many larger-than-life men choose outspoken women as their targets for abuse? Why are we so quick to let ourselves believe that the women are the problem, or claim that an abusive and narcissistic man attacking a woman is a conflict stemming from both sides?

    Why do we find these men entertaining even when we know they're wrong, while we loathe the women they target?

    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/03/o...vic/index.html


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    The CNN article is making me puke. I understand what point they are trying to make about portraying Carole as a villain but they could have easily done it without giving the whole thing a feminist twist and claiming "misogyny" to be the root cause of the problem.

    Luckily, Joe Exotics was gay so at least people can't be accused of being homophobic now.

    In fact, going by how these feminists at CNN evaluate things one would assume the widespread homophobia problem has been solved, because so many people are openly rooting for a homosexual man. The documentary showed his homosexual lifestyle and it even had a gay marriage scene and couple of men kissing each other. Well, I guess LGBT rights movement can go home now since the issue is solved.

    That's how dumb these feminist nut-jobs are who see misogyny in every little thing which only ends up undermining their cause and people not taking them seriously even when they may raise valid issues. It's just like the boy who cried wolf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uberkoen View Post
    I really don't think she killed her husband. He was involved in something fishy definitely and it was probably a drug related hit or something. It is hinted towards in the show when his lawyer says something about throwing him off the gulf of mexico. Also, he went about saying how if he pulled this off it would be the best thing ever or something along those lines.

    Let's not forget he was making flights regularly by keeping below the radar to areas regularly used to smuggle drugs in the country.
    Judging by her expressions and body language when discussing the topic together with the clearly pre-planned and sophisticated manner in which she acted to gain all authority over her dead husband's fortune, I believe she had some hand in his death. She most likely didn't feed him to a tiger but she is involved.

    He never flew to Costa Rica because it was out of the plane's range. The days when you could easily fly a private plane to Latin america and smuggle drugs into USA are over. Him flying below the radar is an allegation made by his wife, the main suspect.

    The lawyer guy was a typical lawyer and used his words very carefully and in a very legalistic manner. Which I found to be pretty amusing. He said that "I was told if he had an accident over the golf of mexico we won't find him". He was sharing a theory to explain how his client could have disappeared in thin air. The top investigator said that there was no indication whatsoever of any airplane incident over the golf of mexico. It was only Carole in the documentary who made the exact same claim so the lawyer most probably was referring to her as the source of his theory.

    For him to be thrown over golf of mexico there would have to be another person in the plane. Which raises further question like who was this other guy? I am assuming none of Don's private planes are missing otherwise it would have caught attention so whose aircraft did they use to fly? When and from where did they board the plane? Has Don Lewis flown with unknown strangers in the past too? Did the other person knew he had to fly under the radars to not be detected? What did he do with the plane afterwards? Is it even plausible that one can avoid detection by flying below the radar or is it just Carole's wild speculations?

    She was the only one who tried to come up with the theory that the guy had dementia. If he was in any way involved with drugs I am sure she would have mentioned it just to have another plausible theory. It's basically her vs everybody else who knew the guy. From his lawyer to mechanic someone would have noticed any shady business.

    Almost everyone involved in this case and familiar with the guy think it was her and only a lack of evidence is what's keeping her safe. She claimed to have no contact with her Sheriff brother and she ran away from home when she was 15 and he was 9. But the day after her husband dies she suddenly is on friendly terms with her father again? The same guy who blamed her for getting raped and was the reason she left her home.

    She is a sophisticated person no doubt and committed the perfect crime with couple of very close helpers. Congrats to her.

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    One of the craziest things I have ever seen on tv.

    At times I had to remind myself that this actually happened.



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    I might have to watch it

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    I'm really not sure why I'm watching this. Definitely doesn't fall under the genres that I generally like, but something about it makes me want to play episode after episode. Might be due to too much free time these days.


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    Didn't watch it but I've heard it's a true story and the lady in the movie killed her husband by letting her pet tiger eat him alive, apparently this is a common practice among drug cartels and in third world countries, it erases any evidence of murder. This is like next level psycho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IMMY69 View Post
    I might have to watch it
    Two episodes in. It restored my faith in America to be honest, seems they are crazier in real life than anything you see on tv.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    Two episodes in. It restored my faith in America to be honest, seems they are crazier in real life than anything you see on tv.
    Your faith is about to go through the roof if you’re only at episode 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirris View Post
    Judging by her expressions and body language when discussing the topic together with the clearly pre-planned and sophisticated manner in which she acted to gain all authority over her dead husband's fortune, I believe she had some hand in his death. She most likely didn't feed him to a tiger but she is involved.

    He never flew to Costa Rica because it was out of the plane's range. The days when you could easily fly a private plane to Latin america and smuggle drugs into USA are over. Him flying below the radar is an allegation made by his wife, the main suspect.

    The lawyer guy was a typical lawyer and used his words very carefully and in a very legalistic manner. Which I found to be pretty amusing. He said that "I was told if he had an accident over the golf of mexico we won't find him". He was sharing a theory to explain how his client could have disappeared in thin air. The top investigator said that there was no indication whatsoever of any airplane incident over the golf of mexico. It was only Carole in the documentary who made the exact same claim so the lawyer most probably was referring to her as the source of his theory.

    For him to be thrown over golf of mexico there would have to be another person in the plane. Which raises further question like who was this other guy? I am assuming none of Don's private planes are missing otherwise it would have caught attention so whose aircraft did they use to fly? When and from where did they board the plane? Has Don Lewis flown with unknown strangers in the past too? Did the other person knew he had to fly under the radars to not be detected? What did he do with the plane afterwards? Is it even plausible that one can avoid detection by flying below the radar or is it just Carole's wild speculations?

    She was the only one who tried to come up with the theory that the guy had dementia. If he was in any way involved with drugs I am sure she would have mentioned it just to have another plausible theory. It's basically her vs everybody else who knew the guy. From his lawyer to mechanic someone would have noticed any shady business.

    Almost everyone involved in this case and familiar with the guy think it was her and only a lack of evidence is what's keeping her safe. She claimed to have no contact with her Sheriff brother and she ran away from home when she was 15 and he was 9. But the day after her husband dies she suddenly is on friendly terms with her father again? The same guy who blamed her for getting raped and was the reason she left her home.

    She is a sophisticated person no doubt and committed the perfect crime with couple of very close helpers. Congrats to her.
    I get where you're coming from but the whole she fed her husband to a tiger thing doesn't make sense.

    It is possible she got a whiff of what he was planning on doing and coordinated with some cartel to have him killed. However, she just could not have done it all alone and she definitely did not feed him to the tiger because that's just beyond stupid.




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    My thoughts on the show?

    Carol is a *****, so infuriating lol.

    Definitely one of the craziest things I have ever seen on TV.

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    Orlando Bloom reportedly in talks to play Joe Exotic in ‘Tiger King’ film

    Orlando Bloom has been tipped as the favourite to play notorious zookeeper Joe Exotic in an upcoming film based on Netflix hit documentary Tiger King: Murder, Mayhem and Madness.

    The Pirates of the Caribbean actor is said to be in early talks with producers at 20th Century Studios working on a film, while production is still a way off due to the development of the coronavirus pandemic.

    According to The Sun, a “movie insider” shared details about the potential project. “All filming is on lockdown at the moment but the studios are exploring projects they can get going on as soon as possible and they think Tiger King is the perfect story,” they said.

    On Bloom’s casting, the source continued: “Discussions about a movie have only just started but they believe the idea has legs, especially if they get a big star like Orlando on board. They think he could really bring Joe to life on screen.”

    The actor fuelled the rumours by posting a Tiger King meme on his Instagram feed, with no caption, which sees Bloom’s face photoshopped onto Exotic’s, with the tiger’s head replaced by that of a puppy.

    The news comes after it emerged that a new episode of Tiger King might be on the way soon, according to one of the show’s main participants, businessman Jeff Lowe. In a message recorded for fansite Cameo, Lowe says: “It’s a wrap-up, we’re gonna tell you what happened.”

    Meanwhile, Exotic himself suggested Brad Pitt or David Spade to play him in an upcoming biopic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uberkoen View Post
    I get where you're coming from but the whole she fed her husband to a tiger thing doesn't make sense.

    It is possible she got a whiff of what he was planning on doing and coordinated with some cartel to have him killed. However, she just could not have done it all alone and she definitely did not feed him to the tiger because that's just beyond stupid.
    What if she chucked him into a swamp? The Crocs would probably grind up the bones too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danyaalr01 View Post
    What if she chucked him into a swamp? The Crocs would probably grind up the bones too.
    Like Joe was allegedly planning on doing to her? Drug her with Ketamine and dump her in a swamp?




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    Quote Originally Posted by uberkoen View Post
    I get where you're coming from but the whole she fed her husband to a tiger thing doesn't make sense.

    It is possible she got a whiff of what he was planning on doing and coordinated with some cartel to have him killed. However, she just could not have done it all alone and she definitely did not feed him to the tiger because that's just beyond stupid.
    Why is it beyond stupid? People often cut up bodies after a murder, one of the oldest tricks in the book. If you have pet tigers that cost a fortune to feed, why would you waste prime meat?


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    Quote Originally Posted by uberkoen View Post
    Like Joe was allegedly planning on doing to her? Drug her with Ketamine and dump her in a swamp?
    Exactly. A body isn't lasting long in a swamp, croc or gator might eat it, or a python or all the insects. And it's not like she would have to drive 100 miles to find a swamp, probably lives next to one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by uberkoen View Post
    I get where you're coming from but the whole she fed her husband to a tiger thing doesn't make sense.

    It is possible she got a whiff of what he was planning on doing and coordinated with some cartel to have him killed. However, she just could not have done it all alone and she definitely did not feed him to the tiger because that's just beyond stupid.
    Makes sense to me - tiger would crunch up the bones too, there would be nothing left.

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    Entertaining watch, still stunned there are people like this in the world.

    Seems too outlandish to be true, truly larger than life characters.


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    Don't worry bro. Your other thread allows for rain. Maybe it will save you?

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    There's another episode available on Netflix where they catch up with some of the characters from the series.



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    Half of my time in the US has been spent in small-town Appalachia, so I've known my fair share of rednecks, hillbillies and trailer park types. After watching Tiger King, all those people appear positively sophisticated in comparison.


    Silver-tongued seraphim circling the spire...
    Gather in the gallery in their best attire...

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    Yeah its interesting but not quite must watch tv. I found the first couple episodes really funny, then it descended into violence, sexual exploitation, homosexual crazies....and is just a mixture of too many topics and too many POVs. Not bad but certainly not great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nostalgic View Post
    Half of my time in the US has been spent in small-town Appalachia, so I've known my fair share of rednecks, hillbillies and trailer park types. After watching Tiger King, all those people appear positively sophisticated in comparison.




    God bless America.


    I for one welcome our new In____ overlords - Kent Brockman

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    God bless America.
    Amen. I haven’t revealed this before, but I was once bestowed with the honorary Appalachian hillbilly name of Uncle Zebediah, a rare honor for an outsider as it is, and probably a first for a Pakistani.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nostalgic View Post
    Amen. I haven’t revealed this before, but I was once bestowed with the honorary Appalachian hillbilly name of Uncle Zebediah, a rare honor for an outsider as it is, and probably a first for a Pakistani.
    Damn you lived their as a pakistani, I have heard that Appalachian suffers from crippling poverty is it true

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigboii View Post
    Damn you lived their as a pakistani, I have heard that Appalachian suffers from crippling poverty is it true
    It does indeed. Poverty, drug abuse, teen pregnancies, illiteracy. The scenery is bracing though: the Appalachians draw you into their embrace. The leafy backroads used to remind me of Islamabad, and the fall is particularly delicious.

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    Refreshing watch! I binged all 7 episodes. Game of thrones for Rednecks. Hillarious!

    The remarkable thing about the series are the twists and turns which all lead back to the Tigers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nostalgic View Post
    Half of my time in the US has been spent in small-town Appalachia, so I've known my fair share of rednecks, hillbillies and trailer park types. After watching Tiger King, all those people appear positively sophisticated in comparison.
    The Blue Ridge Range is stunning. Drove all over there, following Stonewall Jackson’s path through the Civil War.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nostalgic View Post
    Amen. I haven’t revealed this before, but I was once bestowed with the honorary Appalachian hillbilly name of Uncle Zebediah, a rare honor for an outsider as it is, and probably a first for a Pakistani.
    Damn!

    Some honor!

    I have lived for some time in a Spanish area that would be equivalent to USA redneck. I managed to acquire their confidence but things didn't get that far.

    And yep, it is same everywhere: absent/drug addict fathers, early teenage mothers (I'm talking about 14-15 years old getting pregnant by late20-30something dudes, disgusting!), everyone with ugly teeth, living off social paychecks, petty crimes like grown men stealing bicycles, no one wants a stable job, grandparents taking care of children, blame everything on "moros" (immigrants) and every year they vote right-wing political parties
    Last edited by WhenSultansBowled; 13th April 2020 at 02:36.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert View Post
    The Blue Ridge Range is stunning. Drove all over there, following Stonewall Jackson’s path through the Civil War.
    The northern reaches of the Blue Ridge are more genteel, closer as they are to the Northern Virginia urban centers. The NC and Tennessee sections not so much. In either case, a few backroads off the beaten track can get you in countryside that looks like it is a throwback to the America of the Great Depression.

    I live in the Rockies now, and while I’ve come to love their rugged majesty better than the Appalachians, people here haven’t given me a Pioneer nickname yet.

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    As Bismarck once stated, “God has a special providence for fools, drunkards, and the United States of America”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhenSultansBowled View Post
    Damn!

    Some honor!

    I have lived for some time in a Spanish area that would be equivalent to USA redneck. I managed to acquire their confidence but things didn't get that far.

    And yep, it is same everywhere: absent/drug addict fathers, early teenage mothers (I'm talking about 14-15 years old getting pregnant by late20-30something dudes, disgusting!), everyone with ugly teeth, living off social paychecks, petty crimes like grown men stealing bicycles, no one wants a stable job, grandparents taking care of children, blame everything on "moros" (immigrants) and every year they vote right-wing political parties
    “Moro” sounds like it stems from “Moor.” Were most immigrants from the Maghreb, or has the word morphed in meaning to include all immigrants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nostalgic View Post
    “Moro” sounds like it stems from “Moor.” Were most immigrants from the Maghreb, or has the word morphed in meaning to include all immigrants.
    For ignorant people yes. All of us who are not "white" are moros.
    They're so "uncultured", for them everyone who is immigrant is a "Moro"; like most Americans calling Chinese to a Korean or Japanese etc.

    The extremest case I observed was a "Moreno" (darker skinned than usual) Spanish kid from Mallorca being called a Moro. He had to tell people he was Spanish we used to laugh at it but he didn't enjoy it a bit. Sometimes random Moroccans would say Salam to him and would start taking in Arabic and he would just stare at them! hilarious scenes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Rishwat View Post
    God bless America.
    gonna start watching it from tonight

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    I just realized that Joe Maldonado looks like a taller Quinton de Kock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManFan View Post
    I just realized that Joe Maldonado looks like a taller Quinton de Kock.
    And a way more redneck version

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    Netflix's Tiger King has been one of the runaway hits of lockdown TV - and its success has unsurprisingly led to a rush to make spin-offs and adaptations.

    The Netflix series tells the astonishing story of the larger-than-life Oklahoma zoo owner Joe Exotic and his rivalry with animal rights activist Carole Baskin.

    Nicolas Cage as Joe Exotic

    Oscar-winning actor Cage will play the infamous, polygamous, gun-wielding Exotic, who is serving 22 years in prison for plotting Baskin's murder.

    Cage will star in a new eight-part scripted TV drama, based on a 2019 Texas Monthly article titled Joe Exotic: A Dark Journey Into The World Of A Man Gone Wild, by Leif Reigstad.

    No channel or platform has been announced. Cage won an Oscar for Leaving Las Vegas in 1996, and this will be his first regular TV role. The series will be written by American Vandal showrunner Dan Lagana, according to Variety.

    That's not the only drama adaptation in the works - Emmy-winning Saturday Night Live and Ghostbusters star Kate McKinnon is due to play Baskin in another limited series.

    Her version will be based on a podcast called Joe Exotic: Tiger King, which was made by Wondery and launched in March.

    But is there room for both scripted series? If not, which one will make it to air?

    Rob Lowe and Ryan Murphy's version?

    And it seems other drama adaptations could be on the cards...

    Actor Rob Lowe recently posted on Instagram to say he and illustrious TV guru Ryan Murphy were "developing our version of this insane story".

    He even offered an uncanny glimpse of himself as Exotic, holding his dog instead of a tiger.

    In fact, there are a few Hollywood stars to have been either linked with a role or tried to get in on the action.

    The Sun claimed Orlando Bloom had been earmarked to star in a big-screen version.

    Kevin Bacon recently said he would say yes to starring in a film about Exotic in "a second".

    Actors Dax Shepard and Edward Norton even had a Twitter spat (sort of) over which one of them should play him.

    Um, step aside, pal. You’re way too young and buff and you know it. You could probably pull off Maldonado still, actually. Wouldn’t that be fun?

    And Jared Leto posted a photo of himself with a (fluffy) tiger with the caption #JaredLetoTigerKing.

    Exotic himself has suggested a couple of people for the role, including US actor and comedian David Spade, who is obsessed with Tiger King and has interviewed some of the players on YouTube.

    The other person Exotic suggested was Brad Pitt. Spade joked: "I see Brad at auditions all the time and it's always tense."

    Netflix season two?
    As well as the dramatic adaptations, there has been speculation about a second Netflix season - but no announcement yet.

    The first was such a phenomenon - with 64 million people watching at least some of it in its first month - that it's hard to imagine they won't find a way to bring it back.

    "We have a crazy amount of footage and it's a story that's still unfolding," co-director Rebecca Chaiklin told Entertainment Weekly in March.

    "We're not sure yet, but there could be a follow-up on this story because there's a lot that's still unfolding in it, and it'll be just as dramatic and just as colourful as what has unfolded these past few years."

    They did go on to make a single follow-up episode.

    Another factual follow-up

    Netflix may not have ordered a follow-up series, but the Investigation Discovery network has.

    Investigating the Strange World of Joe Exotic is described as "the definitive true crime series" and will delve into his rivalry with Baskin.

    "Viewers are understandably riveted by Netflix's Tiger King, but the millions of true crime fans around the world were left wanting more," channel boss Henry Schleiff said.

    Nine whole years before the Netflix series, Louis Theroux visited Exotic's zoo for an episode of America's Most Dangerous Pets.

    The programme was repeated on BBC Two on Sunday, with Theroux giving his thoughts during a tweet-along.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-52544462


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