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    India tour of Australia (2020/21)

    Cricket Australia has received a vote of confidence from one of India’s key senior cricket officials regarding the chances of a vital $300m tour going ahead despite coronavirus.

    Arun Dhumal, treasurer of the Board of Control for Cricket in India offered hope for the Test and one-day series against Australia by declaring the team were willing to isolate here for a fortnight before playing.

    “There is no choice – everyone will have to do that. You would want to resume the cricket,” he told the Sydney Morning Herald .

    “Two weeks is not that long a lockdown. That would be ideal for any sportsman because when you are in quarantine for such a long period, then going to another country and having a two-week lockdown it would be a good thing to do. We’ll have to see what the norms are post this lockdown.”

    The summer tour is critical to the financial situation of CA, who were expecting $300m in broadcast rights.

    CA first responded to the dire financial prospect in late April, when about 80 per cent of staff were stood down on 20 per cent pay.

    States were also asked to take 45 per cent cuts to their annual grants but Australian cricket’s state association owners successfully challenged that proposal and at the time had negotiated it down to a 25 per cent trim.

    CA reportedly were able to secure a $50m loan not longer after these developments though as part of a larger $200m loan to cover for the potential cancellation of India’s tour to Australia.

    The chances of the Indian cricket team receiving a travel exemption are helped by the fact that rugby league’s New Zealand Warriors have already been granted one as the NRL looks to make its return to the field on May 28.

    Dhumal was not yet ready to confirm whether the Test series would be played over five games instead of four, instead saying the two nations may be better suited to play additional limited-overs games during summer instead.

    “Once we are sure when cricket will resume, then only will we be able to make a final call on that,” he said.
    “That discussion [on five Tests] took place before the lockdown. If there is a window available it would be up to the boards to decide whether they wanted to go for a Test match or maybe two ODIs or maybe two T20s.

    “Given the revenue loss they will have on account of lockdown, post-lockdown they will want to have revenue and revenue most likely will come from ODIs or T20s much more than a Test match.”
    Dhumal admitted it was “difficult” to see the T20 World Cup going ahead on schedule with its status set to be discussed today by the ICC and CA on teleconference.

    “They will have been out of cricket for a long time. Would you want to be without training for that long and straight away go and play [the] World Cup?” he said.

    “That is a call every board has to take. It seems to be difficult.”

    “CA remains optimistic the 2020-21 men’s and women’s home summer – scheduled to begin with the men’s T20 World Cup in October and November – will proceed, whether in empty stadia if social distancing restrictions remain in place or as relevant crowd guidelines allow,” a release from the board in April said.

    Before the coronavirus pandemic Australia was scheduled to host the T20 World Cup from October 18 to November 15.

    Source : https://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket...0b4cdced86de38

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    Lol, there is no choice, we will risk our lives for the $300M cheque

    Good on you guys, hope this tour happens

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    also there seems to some diplomatic level push from New Zealand on India and Australia(unconfirmed sources as I know few people working in consulates) to have a side quadrangular/pentangular series involving india/nz/aus and may be 2 other teams. india is pushing for Bangladesh and England is also in consideration. All this is unconfirmed.
    Looks like power brokers are already making moves behind the scenes to make some quick money to re-coup the losses and shore up the economies.
    Already there is a lot of talk about building a Trans-Tasman bubble as OZ and NZ have controlled coronavirus to a certain extent.

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    if PCB is offered such money what would they do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Lol, there is no choice, we will risk our lives for the $300M cheque

    Good on you guys, hope this tour happens
    what would PCB do in this situation.. if they have a same chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazam View Post
    what would PCB do in this situation.. if they have a same chance.
    Dive right into the Moolah

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Dive right into the Moolah
    thats true lol.. anyone would..

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    Lol, history will remember Cricket Australia begging the BCCI for a handout. I am surprised no one in Australia has aggressively demanded a ruthless investigation into how Cricket Australia found itself in such a mess in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Lol, history will remember Cricket Australia begging the BCCI for a handout. I am surprised no one in Australia has aggressively demanded a ruthless investigation into how Cricket Australia found itself in such a mess in the first place.
    Exactly and i thought CA would have been least effected as they already had most their cricket season before global lockdown.

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    good for india and australia.. i am sure england would also do something similar.
    India will be an in demand team for the boards to mint some money and in return BCCI will become more powerful... Signs of things to come i guess.

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    So the Indian govt and cricket board don't care about their cricketers safety and wellbeing, this means that the whole "not touring Pakistan" gimmick was all a farce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giannis View Post
    So the Indian govt and cricket board don't care about their cricketers safety and wellbeing, this means that the whole "not touring Pakistan" gimmick was all a farce.
    Australia has much less cases then other parts of the world.. I can go out for exercising shopping and hospitals are no overloaded. It literally is one of the best places to be in terms of safety and well being. These are facts

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazam View Post
    Australia has much less cases then other parts of the world.. I can go out for exercising shopping and hospitals are no overloaded. It literally is one of the best places to be in terms of safety and well being. These are facts
    This is still a highly contagious viral infection, a global pandemic and health experts around the world urging social distancing and to stay at, the BCCI should be shutdown like any other non-essential business is right now. For $300 million they're willing to jeopardize their players well-being but also the well-being of Australians - further contributing to the pandemic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giannis View Post
    This is still a highly contagious viral infection, a global pandemic and health experts around the world urging social distancing and to stay at, the BCCI should be shutdown like any other non-essential business is right now. For $300 million they're willing to jeopardize their players well-being but also the well-being of Australians - further contributing to the pandemic.
    Itís not Indiaís push... CA is pushing it at all levels. They want India to tour desperately and are willing to give them legal exemptions in travel.. like you would give to healthcare workers and essential workers which need to safeguard a country. So essentially Indian team in an essential service for Australian cricket to survive. This is a loud and clear message coming out

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    They should name this trophy COVID-19 Series.

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    Wow Aussies are so desperate, still enough time so needn't panic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bezli View Post
    They should name this trophy COVID-19 Series.
    Yes like the bushfire series can play a series with players mixed from Australia New Zealand and India

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    Nothing wrong with this.

    Live has to get going again and as long as proper precautions are taken, this will be fine.

    Main thing is that players need to be tested at start, self isolate then come out to play. Same should happen on Aus side too.


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    Quote Originally Posted by chazam View Post
    It’s not India’s push... CA is pushing it at all levels. They want India to tour desperately and are willing to give them legal exemptions in travel.. like you would give to healthcare workers and essential workers which need to safeguard a country. So essentially Indian team in an essential service for Australian cricket to survive. This is a loud and clear message coming out
    Lol get outta here! Literally ANY business can claim that they need to resume services as it is essential for the survival of their company, simply struggling to say afloat doesn't qualify you as a "essential service". Cricket Australia is no different from the thousands of businesses and non-essential services around the world that are losing millions if not billions in revenue.

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    Nothing wrong with this. Australia had handled this pandemic really well just like Germany and has far lesser cases. Now Germans are restarting the Bundesliga, so no surprises that int'l cricket would return sooner or later to Australia or NZ.

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    These countries won't play in PAK due to security reasons and then happily agree to this in what likely will become the 2nd wave of COVID-19.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kingusama92 View Post
    These countries won't play in PAK due to security reasons and then happily agree to this in what likely will become the 2nd wave of COVID-19.
    Apples to oranges comparison.

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    People overreacting as usual, by September- October all essential and non essential business will reopen even if there's no cure to corona.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazam View Post
    also there seems to some diplomatic level push from New Zealand on India and Australia(unconfirmed sources as I know few people working in consulates) to have a side quadrangular/pentangular series involving india/nz/aus and may be 2 other teams. india is pushing for Bangladesh and England is also in consideration. All this is unconfirmed.
    Looks like power brokers are already making moves behind the scenes to make some quick money to re-coup the losses and shore up the economies.
    Already there is a lot of talk about building a Trans-Tasman bubble as OZ and NZ have controlled coronavirus to a certain extent.
    Imagine a pentangular cup involving Australia, New Zealand, India, Pakistan, England/South Africa in Australia! What a blockbuster that would be!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeeteshssaxena View Post
    People overreacting as usual, by September- October all essential and non essential business will reopen even if there's no cure to corona.
    So that doesnít mean you can go around play cricket, give high fives and spread the virus. COVID-19 is spreading really fast in India and last thing You want is plane filled up with COVID-19 threats.

    Would you allow this to happen to humanity over $300M?

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    That's ok but when is Isolation Premier League going to happen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    That's ok but when is Isolation Premier League going to happen?
    Very bad idea man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bezli View Post
    Very bad idea man.
    Why? IPL fans want it to happen at any cost even behind closed doors. They don't want it be cancelled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    That's ok but when is Isolation Premier League going to happen?
    Sponsored by Zoom.

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    Iíve actually heard a little about this through my work.

    As you know, almost all of Australiaís cases are linked to overseas travellers seeding infection here. The Ruby Princess cruise ship debacle means that India would never be allowed into the Australian mainland to serve two weeksí quarantine.

    The suggestion is currently that any visiting team would fly into Christmas Island (off Western Australia, but closer to Malaysia and Indonesia).

    They would stay at the abandoned Christmas Island Casino hotel as prisoners for a period of two weeks, before proceeding to the Australian mainland.

    And wait for this! Plan B is whether a ground could conceivably be built on Christmas Island to host cricket and rugby league if the virus rebounds on the mainland.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    Iíve actually heard a little about this through my work.

    As you know, almost all of Australiaís cases are linked to overseas travellers seeding infection here. The Ruby Princess cruise ship debacle means that India would never be allowed into the Australian mainland to serve two weeksí quarantine.

    The suggestion is currently that any visiting team would fly into Christmas Island (off Western Australia, but closer to Malaysia and Indonesia).

    They would stay at the abandoned Christmas Island Casino hotel as prisoners for a period of two weeks, before proceeding to the Australian mainland.

    And wait for this! Plan B is whether a ground could conceivably be built on Christmas Island to host cricket and rugby league if the virus rebounds on the mainland.
    Travellers are being quarantined in hotel rooms within Australia. Also, there are government level discussions going on have a special exemption for this to happen. Australian government also wants to get closer to India to have access to Reduce China dependency. Your plan B is not a verifiable fact I could not find anywhere so not sure about that.

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    Lol players donít want to play in empty stadiums and here we will have a test series with zero spectators lmao

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    The only cricket which has happened without crowd was I guess couple of PSL matches in March and to be honest without the crowd, noise, celebrations etc. it felt like a practice match.

    I am not sure in what condition the world be at that time, I hope much better than it currently is. Sports without crowd isnt the same.

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    There is no clarity on the future of big-ticket tournaments like the T20 World Cup, Asia Cup, the Indian Premier League and scheduled bilateral meets. The cancellation or prolonged postponement of matches will certainly have an impact on the finances of cricket boards.

    While Cricket Australia is in deep financial crisis, the England and Wales Cricket Board is also fearing heavy financial loss this season.

    Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) treasurer Arun Dhumal admits that the Indian Board, too, will “also be in a difficult position” if cricket does not resume fast. “This is definitely a big blow for world cricket. All the boards are feeling the heat. Once the pandemic is over, everybody needs to sit across the drawing board once again and re-draw their strategies, as to how they can cope with the situation,” he said.

    In a chat with Sportstar on Friday, Dhumal spoke on a range of issues…

    At a time when Cricket Australia finds itself in a tough financial situation, how secured is the BCCI?

    The BCCI will also be in a difficult position in case cricket does not resume soon, especially the IPL. In that case, the BCCI will also have to face a lot of financial hardships. IPL is one of the major revenue-generating tournaments.

    What if it doesn’t happen? Is there a back-up plan?

    There is nothing much we can do. We will just have to wait for cricket to resume.

    How is the BCCI managing allocation of funds to the state bodies?

    It would definitely have a spiraling effect. It is not rocket science to understand. If the BCCI is in problem, the state associations will also be facing it. We can only distribute something to the associations when (funds) are coming to the BCCI. But if there is nothing coming BCCI’s way, what’s there for the board to distribute to the cricket associations? So, it’s not only a problem for the board, but would also (have implications) for the state associations.

    In such a scenario, how much of a challenge will it be for the state bodies to get the ball rolling?

    It’s as challenging as for any other organisation, which is required to work without any finances to take care of their assets, machinery and equipment. It will definitely be challenging for associations to take care of the stadiums they have, to upkeep the facilities and also to take care of the staff.

    Is the BCCI mulling pay cuts for its staff and stakeholders?

    Nothing as of now. That would be the last resort one would want to take. We don’t want to have pay cuts and hopefully, we can tide over the situation and there is no need for that. But that would depend on how long this situation continues and what’s the final outcome in terms of revenue generation.

    Reports suggest that the England and Wales Cricket Board is looking at bio-secure venues to resume their international cricket commitments…

    These are all speculative stories. There is nothing concrete that has come out so far. I can plan for anything as per my best capacity, but it has to take the holistic picture in mind. The government has to agree to that. We are not planning anything as of now because for us, the safety and health of our cricketers are paramount. Rest can wait.

    As per the original calendar, 2020 was a busy year, with too many big-ticket events like the T20 World Cup, Asia Cup and other bilateral assignments. Do you feel that some of the tournaments might have to be shelved?

    This is definitely a big blow for world cricket. All the boards are feeling the heat. Once the pandemic is over, everybody needs to sit across the drawing board and plan their strategies. The BCCI will definitely do the best possible to help world cricket at large. You can’t have just one or two teams winning all the tournaments. To have competitive cricket, all the teams have to fare well so that the game becomes interesting. Keeping that in mind, we will work shoulder-to-shoulder with every cricket board and help international cricket revive.

    A lot of appointments — like the women’s selection panel — have been stalled. How do you see that?

    In such a situation, it is something that you would not want to go ahead with now. Why would I make a decision now and increase my liability when there is no cricket in the foreseeable future? There are certain decisions which can be kept pending because there is no reason to take a call on that now. This is such a situation where you know decis

    https://sportstar.thehindu.com/crick....eceion-making wouldn’t make much of a difference because in the times of COVID-19, nobody is clear as to when cricket can resume.


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    Quote Originally Posted by chazam View Post
    Travellers are being quarantined in hotel rooms within Australia. Also, there are government level discussions going on have a special exemption for this to happen. Australian government also wants to get closer to India to have access to Reduce China dependency. Your plan B is not a verifiable fact I could not find anywhere so not sure about that.
    you can't find something what is brewing in his mind that guy is a verifiable troll, trolling Indian posters.

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    Lol, first question is with no cricket in last 6-7 months, how will India perform if they play test match vs Australia in Australia and that too without any crowd?

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    South Korea played a league match in football in Empty stadium, watched on tv though. Probably sports will be like this for a couple of years now. Still better then no sports though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khan_aa View Post
    Lol players donít want to play in empty stadiums and here we will have a test series with zero spectators lmao
    It will be like playing test matches in UAE in front of empty stands

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    There it is folks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khan_aa View Post
    Lol players donít want to play in empty stadiums and here we will have a test series with zero spectators lmao
    Lol desi teams will feel right at home for test matches in that case

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ab Fan View Post
    Lol, first question is with no cricket in last 6-7 months, how will India perform if they play test match vs Australia in Australia and that too without any crowd?
    India couldnít do much against NZ so I donít expect much anyway against a side which pummeled NZ a month prior

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazam View Post
    Travellers are being quarantined in hotel rooms within Australia. Also, there are government level discussions going on have a special exemption for this to happen. Australian government also wants to get closer to India to have access to Reduce China dependency. Your plan B is not a verifiable fact I could not find anywhere so not sure about that.
    No.

    Returning Australian citizens are being quarantined for two weeks in Australian hotels.

    Overseas nationals are banned from entering Australia unless they are permanent residents, or, like the NZ Warriors Rugby League Team they:

    1. Come from a place with no cases.
    2. Obtain an exemption from the ban on overseas visitors, and
    3. Fly directly into a small isolated town to do their quarantine - the NZ Warriors flew into Tamworth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazam View Post
    Travellers are being quarantined in hotel rooms within Australia. Also, there are government level discussions going on have a special exemption for this to happen. Australian government also wants to get closer to India to have access to Reduce China dependency. Your plan B is not a verifiable fact I could not find anywhere so not sure about that.
    How the NZ Warriors were allowed in:

    https://www.northerndailyleader.com....m-new-zealand/

    If the Indians think they will be allowed to fly into a city and stay in a normal hotel for 14 days, using the same elevators and gym as Australians, think again.

    For a Kiwi team it was Tamworth. For an Asian team it would be straight to Christmas Island, either staying at the abandoned casino hotel or the detention centre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    How the NZ Warriors were allowed in:

    https://www.northerndailyleader.com....m-new-zealand/

    If the Indians think they will be allowed to fly into a city and stay in a normal hotel for 14 days, using the same elevators and gym as Australians, think again.

    For a Kiwi team it was Tamworth. For an Asian team it would be straight to Christmas Island, either staying at the abandoned casino hotel or the detention center.
    an hence the diplomatic level discussions to have the legal exemptions
    and have them based in a city.
    Your attempt to demean the Indians and linking them to sending to a detention center is not expected from a senior poster like you. The Asian team is bringing 300 million dollar revenue pretty sure they will be hosted inside Australia and treated well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    India couldnít do much against NZ so I donít expect much anyway against a side which pummeled NZ a month prior
    India would pummel nz in Australia.
    Teams these days are totally conditions dependent.

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    Virat kohli in a detention center .
    Some people really live in a bubble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeeteshssaxena View Post
    India would pummel nz in Australia.
    Teams these days are totally conditions dependent.
    Why would India play NZ in Australia though? That's like saying Sri Lanka would pummel India in South Africa or Pakistan would pummel India in England.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    India couldnít do much against NZ so I donít expect much anyway against a side which pummeled NZ a month prior
    Australia are favourites for the series but I think if India comes up with a lot of preparation and some cricket matches going forward to the series, I think they can still produce similar result as what Australia showed up in 2017 tour to India. A win in Sydney is not an out of question for this Indian team if their players are in correct rythm .

    However, if tests happen amidst social distancing and trying to focus on safety more than playing the game with full passion, a whitewash is very much in sight for India. I know Australia haven't played any game either but they are severely strong at home (just like India are at home) and can beat most sides today without the need of much practice in home conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazam View Post
    an hence the diplomatic level discussions to have the legal exemptions
    and have them based in a city.
    Your attempt to demean the Indians and linking them to sending to a detention center is not expected from a senior poster like you. The Asian team is bringing 300 million dollar revenue pretty sure they will be hosted inside Australia and treated well.
    Iím not demeaning Indians, it would be the same if they were England.

    Iím a doctor. Controlling this pandemic is hard work, and all Australiaís hard work would be wasted if one member of the Indian team

    1. caught the virus from the driver of the vehicle to Mumbai Airport,

    2. tested negative at Mumbai Airport.

    3. Tested negative on arrival in Australia.

    4. Stayed at the Sydney Hilton hotel and used the same elevators and gym and restaurant as hundreds of other people.

    5. Became positive nine days into that quarantine having already infected a chain of people who took it into multiple Sydney workplaces.

    Foreign nationals are banned from Australia. Even an NZ sporting team - from a country which has eradicated the virus - was not allowed to transit Sydney Airport or stay in a city hotel - they were flown straight to a small remote centre and quarantined as prisoners there in a hotel with a sports ground next to it. And still one week later armed guards prevent the players from leaving the hotel.

    The special treatment for India will be if they are given an exemption to enter Australia at all. But if they are allowed in, it will be to serve a period of quarantine as imprisonment in a very remote area, for viral spread prevention reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazam View Post
    an hence the diplomatic level discussions to have the legal exemptions
    and have them based in a city.
    Your attempt to demean the Indians and linking them to sending to a detention center is not expected from a senior poster like you. The Asian team is bringing 300 million dollar revenue pretty sure they will be hosted inside Australia and treated well.
    Whether Indian team tours and where they stay etc will be discussed at the highest level. Its not for @Junaids to decide. His posting anything here is his own figment of imagination and inconsequential.

    He once said that Tendulkar was in need of money in 90s and wanted a county contract but counties rejected him as he was not good enough. Does this affect the fact that Tendulkar is the greatest batsman to have played since Bradman.

    He also claimed that Bcci survives by icc bailouts, does that negate the facts that literally everyone needs bcci money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    Iím not demeaning Indians, it would be the same if they were England.

    Iím a doctor. Controlling this pandemic is hard work, and all Australiaís hard work would be wasted if one member of the Indian team

    1. caught the virus from the driver of the vehicle to Mumbai Airport,

    2. tested negative at Mumbai Airport.

    3. Tested negative on arrival in Australia.

    4. Stayed at the Sydney Hilton hotel and used the same elevators and gym and restaurant as hundreds of other people.

    5. Became positive nine days into that quarantine having already infected a chain of people who took it into multiple Sydney workplaces.

    Foreign nationals are banned from Australia. Even an NZ sporting team - from a country which has eradicated the virus - was not allowed to transit Sydney Airport or stay in a city hotel - they were flown straight to a small remote centre and quarantined as prisoners there in a hotel with a sports ground next to it. And still one week later armed guards prevent the players from leaving the hotel.

    The special treatment for India will be if they are given an exemption to enter Australia at all. But if they are allowed in, it will be to serve a period of quarantine as imprisonment in a very remote area, for viral spread prevention reasons.
    The Australian govt has made no announcement regarding Indian team. And you are ofcourse not making the rules. So when India tours, the government will decide the rules. Till then you can keep farming your fertile imagination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazam View Post
    an hence the diplomatic level discussions to have the legal exemptions
    and have them based in a city.
    Your attempt to demean the Indians and linking them to sending to a detention center is not expected from a senior poster like you. The Asian team is bringing 300 million dollar revenue pretty sure they will be hosted inside Australia and treated well.
    Thatís a lot of money for Cricket Australia, but itís peanuts compared with what we voluntarily are losing every week by banning tourists from overseas.

    Australia and New Zealand are the worldís most successful countries against Coronavirus BECAUSE our borders are closed to all foreign visitors. If we let in a sports team you can bet your life they will be forced to serve their 14 day quarantine somewhere very remote and isolated.

    The places which Iím aware of having been floated are Christmas Island, Tamworth, Broome or Rottnest Island off Perth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Whether Indian team tours and where they stay etc will be discussed at the highest level. Its not for @Junaids to decide. His posting anything here is his own figment of imagination and inconsequential.

    He once said that Tendulkar was in need of money in 90s and wanted a county contract but counties rejected him as he was not good enough. Does this affect the fact that Tendulkar is the greatest batsman to have played since Bradman.

    He also claimed that Bcci survives by icc bailouts, does that negate the facts that literally everyone needs bcci money.
    The BBC just did a poll for Yorkshireís greatest ever overseas player.

    69% voted for Darren Lehmann, lol.

    Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/52514110

    By the way, where an overseas team is quarantined is a state government issue, not a Commonwealth government one.

    The Commonwealth gets to decide whether a visiting team gets an exemption to enter Australia.

    And then the state of arrival determines where they would be permitted to serve their quarantine and how they could transit to get there.

    And I can assure you, as a senior doctor working for two state governments, that discussions have already taken place about where visiting overseas sports teams could be quarantined.

    Tamworth for the NZ Warriors didnít just happen. It was planned, proposed and approved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    Iím not demeaning Indians, it would be the same if they were England.

    Iím a doctor. Controlling this pandemic is hard work, and all Australiaís hard work would be wasted if one member of the Indian team

    1. caught the virus from the driver of the vehicle to Mumbai Airport,

    2. tested negative at Mumbai Airport.

    3. Tested negative on arrival in Australia.

    4. Stayed at the Sydney Hilton hotel and used the same elevators and gym and restaurant as hundreds of other people.

    5. Became positive nine days into that quarantine having already infected a chain of people who took it into multiple Sydney workplaces.

    Foreign nationals are banned from Australia. Even an NZ sporting team - from a country which has eradicated the virus - was not allowed to transit Sydney Airport or stay in a city hotel - they were flown straight to a small remote centre and quarantined as prisoners there in a hotel with a sports ground next to it. And still one week later armed guards prevent the players from leaving the hotel.

    The special treatment for India will be if they are given an exemption to enter Australia at all. But if they are allowed in, it will be to serve a period of quarantine as imprisonment in a very remote area, for viral spread prevention reasons.
    I think, BCCI will set the rule where & how Indian team stays those 14 days - obviously theyíll maintain the required precaution, which can be provided even at Sydney Hilton, but forget about detention centre, abandoned hotel or remote island. I am not a fan of BCCI for sure, but they do know where to press the knob and theyíll do that - and Iíll be clapping for them if itís against Aussie Board.

    I give you a calculation - think in this line. Instead of shifting Indian team to a detention centre and risk $300mn (Australiaís GDP is $1.7Tn, but that hardly helps CAís accountant), if required theyíll book the entire Sydney Hilton for 14 days with all facilities and keep Aussies safe from Indians travelling via Mumbai taxi driver (I think, Indian players earn just enough to afford own car, taxi might not be required). That detention centre will also cost some amount, therefore net, net may be extra cost is 3mn, thatís 1% of the bucket.

    An isolated bus picking Indian squad from airport heads straight to hotel and drop players there - instead of sending players to detention centre, theyíll wash top to bottom, whoever comes within close contact of the touring party and keep Australia safe. If this tour goes on, youíll be able to check my this post by words. That NZ team (Rugby?) is laughable comparison to be honest ...

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    @MMHS
    We know that there is a lot we donít know about this virus.

    It has yet to be ruled out that it can survive on taps, bannisters, car seats, seatbelts, glasses, toilet flushers etc etc.

    New South Wales Health has presided over two Coronavirus Public Relations Disasters, the Ruby Princess cruise debacle and the Newmarch House nursing home. Public opinion is for not letting anyone back from overseas - even Australians - and for making quarantine be served in remote, isolated places.

    You have no idea how many different people could infect an Indian or even Australian cricketer in the 14 days before they fly to Australia. Even the seat in the airport lounge, the toilet on the plane or the elevator button at the airport pose a risk. Wealth is no protection - in fact wealthy Indians tend to have more servants.

    I doubt that India will tour. Iím expecting Australia v Australia A and possibly, maybe, some NZ matches.

    But if India do tour, the Ruby Princess debacle means that for the first fourteen days they will be locked down somewhere remote, so that even if they create a local infection cluster it can be isolated without spreading to a major centre.

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    Bear in mind at this stage that what trade and travel that Australia has for the next 18 months will mainly be with New Zealand.

    NZ is literally going to become a commercial partner more important than the rest of the world combined.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    @MMHS
    We know that there is a lot we donít know about this virus.

    It has yet to be ruled out that it can survive on taps, bannisters, car seats, seatbelts, glasses, toilet flushers etc etc.

    New South Wales Health has presided over two Coronavirus Public Relations Disasters, the Ruby Princess cruise debacle and the Newmarch House nursing home. Public opinion is for not letting anyone back from overseas - even Australians - and for making quarantine be served in remote, isolated places.

    You have no idea how many different people could infect an Indian or even Australian cricketer in the 14 days before they fly to Australia. Even the seat in the airport lounge, the toilet on the plane or the elevator button at the airport pose a risk. Wealth is no protection - in fact wealthy Indians tend to have more servants.

    I doubt that India will tour. Iím expecting Australia v Australia A and possibly, maybe, some NZ matches.

    But if India do tour, the Ruby Princess debacle means that for the first fourteen days they will be locked down somewhere remote, so that even if they create a local infection cluster it can be isolated without spreading to a major centre.
    Then itís a call between tour or no tour - I donít think the tour will happen then. You see, 10 years before the Lahore attack, Aussies stopped travelling to PAK when ENG, NZ & SAF were travelling (if I consider white majority countries)..... then they deferred BD tour for that Holy Artisan attack, when Poms toured within three months. Were these Aussies special creature?

    Itís not about Indian team, even if Afghans are invited as per plan, they should be treated how touring teams should be - if Aussies think in those lines you have written here, Indians better not tour there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Then itís a call between tour or no tour - I donít think the tour will happen then. You see, 10 years before the Lahore attack, Aussies stopped travelling to PAK when ENG, NZ & SAF were travelling (if I consider white majority countries)..... then they deferred BD tour for that Holy Artisan attack, when Poms toured within three months. Were these Aussies special creature?

    Itís not about Indian team, even if Afghans are invited as per plan, they should be treated how touring teams should be - if Aussies think in those lines you have written here, Indians better not tour there.
    Please read my earlier post about the New Zealand Warriors Rugby League team and the quarantine they are going through right now in Tamworth, 400 km away from Sydney and 600 km away from Brisbane.

    No one is saying that the Indians would get worse treatment - they would get the same treatment. And if they donít like it, they donít have to come.

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    Plenty of interest in this tour after what happened last time. Aus keen to prove it was a blip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    Please read my earlier post about the New Zealand Warriors Rugby League team and the quarantine they are going through right now in Tamworth, 400 km away from Sydney and 600 km away from Brisbane.

    No one is saying that the Indians would get worse treatment - they would get the same treatment. And if they don’t like it, they don’t have to come.
    the whole point here is India is not desperate to tour, it is the Australians who want India to tour desperately. Even I saw comments from OZ players on websites, they wish the tour to happen. Joe Burns was saying he would like to test himself against incredible indian bowling attack. Sydney Morning Herald had interviewed the BCCI treasurer, not vice versa. Australian diplomatic level push is happening from Australia's side. So I am pretty sure Indians are more then welcome. It is the BCCI and India who will decide whether to come or not.

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    I seriously doubt this tour will happen. I think caution will prevail over $$$ as it should in this case. Even if CA somehow manage to get permission from the govt. to host, the quarantine will not happen in some detention center. It will have to happen in some sort of ultra comfort resort type facility.

    The Indian cricket team I am sure travels and stays in luxury. Anything short of this will be rejected by the BCCI. Let alone the players. So if CA wants this tour to happen (and want to get their hands on AUD 300 million) they have to come up with a plan that has ultra comfort and luxury.

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    Obviously Indian team will get quarantined in some five star facility

    U really think India will agree to get quarantined in some detention center - when the Australian Board is so desperate to host the tour

    India would rather call of the tour & instead host the IPL in that window 😂

    btw its seems like quid pro quo. Very likely Australia will postpone T20 World Cup to next year Feb- Mar which will allow India to host IPL in Oct- Nov. In return India will agree to play few extra games in Australia to ensure they recoup losses

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    Then it’s a call between tour or no tour - I don’t think the tour will happen then. You see, 10 years before the Lahore attack, Aussies stopped travelling to PAK when ENG, NZ & SAF were travelling (if I consider white majority countries)..... then they deferred BD tour for that Holy Artisan attack, when Poms toured within three months. Were these Aussies special creature?

    It’s not about Indian team, even if Afghans are invited as per plan, they should be treated how touring teams should be - if Aussies think in those lines you have written here, Indians better not tour there.
    Can't believe how everyone keeps following for his shtick, he's a classic provocateur who says outrageous things to get a rise out of people. Detention centres on Christmas Island indeed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    The BBC just did a poll for Yorkshireís greatest ever overseas player.

    69% voted for Darren Lehmann, lol.

    Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/52514110

    By the way, where an overseas team is quarantined is a state government issue, not a Commonwealth government one.

    The Commonwealth gets to decide whether a visiting team gets an exemption to enter Australia.

    And then the state of arrival determines where they would be permitted to serve their quarantine and how they could transit to get there.

    And I can assure you, as a senior doctor working for two state governments, that discussions have already taken place about where visiting overseas sports teams could be quarantined.

    Tamworth for the NZ Warriors didnít just happen. It was planned, proposed and approved.
    As i said, you can keep farming your fertile imagination and churn out anything.

    You will have no say in if and when India tours and where they stay.

    Where does the poll say that Tendulkar needed a county contract for money and counties rejected him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    As i said, you can keep farming your fertile imagination and churn out anything.

    You will have no say in if and when India tours and where they stay.

    Where does the poll say that Tendulkar needed a county contract for money and counties rejected him?
    Should we shut down this forum because NONE of us have any say in with what happens ANYWHERE?

    Stop this line of reasoning in every other thread.


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    Itís going to be very hard to sell $300Mís worth of broadcast for behind closed doors cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Should we shut down this forum because NONE of us have any say in with what happens ANYWHERE?

    Stop this line of reasoning in every other thread.
    Saying that Indians will be put in a detention center and demeaning them in every thread with false info not backed by any verifiable source has to be called out.

    Let him post a verifiable source of this info that India will be put in a detention facility, i will apologize. No issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Saying that Indians will be put in a detention center and demeaning them in every thread with false info not backed by any verifiable source has to be called out.

    Let him post a verifiable source of this info that India will be put in a detention facility, i will apologize. No issues.
    You should apologise for the thousands of anti Pakistan posts in which you claim so much nonesense without proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    You should apologise for the thousands of anti Pakistan posts in which you claim so much nonesense without proof.
    Reply to them and i will show you the source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Reply to them and i will show you the source.
    You come up with pathetic homemade sources for your pathetic arguments. You should apologise for that also

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    You come up with pathetic homemade sources for your pathetic arguments. You should apologise for that also
    Home made sources? Like what?

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    The tour is in Nov and we are only in May. Plenty of water will be flown under the bridge till then. I expect situation to be normal by end of this year and this tour will definitely be on. Most teams will be back on field by July and all cricket will be played under closed door this year. T20 WC will be pushed to next year though as ICC wont organize a tournament without crowds.

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    If 2 week isolations and closed door stadiums is the only way to bring cricket and sports back, then we should do that, provided its deemed safe for all players and oficialls involved.

    People need sports now more than ever. The WTC and ODI league must not be abandoned.

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    T20 World Cup is more important. CA should make it their top priority and ensure it happens even if its in empty stadiums. Most people who aren't Indian or Australian couldn't care less about this tour. It's plays second fiddle to the T20 WC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedwoodOriginal View Post
    T20 World Cup is more important. CA should make it their top priority and ensure it happens even if its in empty stadiums. People who aren't Indian or Australian couldn't care less about this tour. It's plays second fiddle to the T20 WC.
    T20 world cup is much bigger logistical challenge than a test tour by 1 team

    Imagine moving all teams & fans around. It wud be organisational nightmare

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    Quote Originally Posted by NishanKonar View Post
    T20 world cup is much bigger logistical challenge than a test tour by 1 team

    Imagine moving all teams & fans around. It wud be organisational nightmare
    I think if either of these things happen they would likely happen behind closed doors. And despite the logistical challenge CA has the capacity to do it. If this tournament was happening anywhere in Asia, South Africa or even England it would be a different story. But countries like Australia and New Zealand are not densely populated. You can actually get away from the people and it would be easier to isolate in these countries than it would be in the others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazam View Post
    the whole point here is India is not desperate to tour, it is the Australians who want India to tour desperately. Even I saw comments from OZ players on websites, they wish the tour to happen. Joe Burns was saying he would like to test himself against incredible indian bowling attack. Sydney Morning Herald had interviewed the BCCI treasurer, not vice versa. Australian diplomatic level push is happening from Australia's side. So I am pretty sure Indians are more then welcome. It is the BCCI and India who will decide whether to come or not.
    This makes very little sense.

    You fail to distinguish between Australia as in:

    1. The government, which just let Virgin Australia airlines go bust with 16,000 employees and contractors, and also sees hotels, airlines and bars and restaurants far, far higher in the queue for special treatment than a sports federation like Cricket Australia.

    2. Cricket Australia, which is a tiny private company with a vested interest in the tour happening.

    3. The Australian public, which wants closed borders to keep the virus out now that it has all but been eradicated.

    Do you think Cricket Australia will get better treatment than the travel-related businesses which canít get exemptions to let in American and Chinese tourists?

    Commercially Cricket Australia is a lower priority than Aussie Rules Football and Rugby League.

    And Rugby League is setting the precedent for international sports teams this very minute with the New Zealand Warriors:

    1. Yes, a foreign sports team can get an exemption to enter the country, but on condition that:

    2. They arenít allowed to enter at an international airport - they have to fly into a remote, isolated centre.

    3. They have to serve their quarantine for 14 days locked into a hotel at which they buy up every room, at that remote isolated centre.

    4. If any new players arrive later, the whole squad is re-quarantined for an additional 14 days. Which just happened to the Warriors even though the virus has been eradicated in their country.

    5. If the team moves between cities after the quarantine is completed, they become subject to further quarantine regulations as per anyone else in the country.

    So

    1. If they are quarantined for 2 weeks in Tamworth, NSW they are then free to play in Sydney.

    2. If they then move to Adelaide, Brisbane, Melbourne or Perth they then have to serve a further 2 weeks quarantine upon arrival there (as does any Australian person who has just been in New South Wales).

    We got our cases down to virtually nothing by keeping foreigners out and by quarantining Australians each time they move between two states. Any exemptions for a foreign cricket team will be consistent with the NZ Warriors exemption.

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    For our Indian friends.....

    Australia went down the avenue of giving an exemption and a relaxation of quarantine rules in March for the Ruby Princess.

    And it created the biggest disaster in Australian medical history.

    As the New Zealand Warriors have discovered, a foreign Sports team may get an exemption to arrive in Australia.

    But the risks of a recently infected (but still testing negative, for now) individual being in that group means that the team will be required to arrive at a small airport far from any cities, and to serve the 14 day quarantine period there.

    I have seen posters laughing at the idea of Christmas Island, but the abandoned casino hotel there was far more luxurious than the Mercure Hotel at Tamworthís Rugby League Wests Club, which is where the NZ Warriors have been sent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    For our Indian friends.....

    Australia went down the avenue of giving an exemption and a relaxation of quarantine rules in March for the Ruby Princess.

    And it created the biggest disaster in Australian medical history.

    As the New Zealand Warriors have discovered, a foreign Sports team may get an exemption to arrive in Australia.

    But the risks of a recently infected (but still testing negative, for now) individual being in that group means that the team will be required to arrive at a small airport far from any cities, and to serve the 14 day quarantine period there.

    I have seen posters laughing at the idea of Christmas Island, but the abandoned casino hotel there was far more luxurious than the Mercure Hotel at Tamworthís Rugby League Wests Club, which is where the NZ Warriors have been sent.

    So bhai thatís what I am saying the diplomatic level push is happening from Australians to get the pie of 300 million dollar revenue. Thatís the whole point the tour may happen or not.
    Shows the power of BCCI in world cricket.And your point about putting Indians in a detention Center.. well thatís just sad

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazam View Post
    So bhai that’s what I am saying the diplomatic level push is happening from Australians to get the pie of 300 million dollar revenue. That’s the whole point the tour may happen or not.
    Shows the power of BCCI in world cricket.And your point about putting Indians in a detention Center.. well that’s just sad
    I believe he is trying to differentiate between Australia the Government and Cricket Australia. You're right, Cricket Australia is hyper keen to get the tour underway but the Governments in Australia (State and Federal) seem to be rather differentiated on easing rules and going 'back to normal'.

    As for him saying Indian players will be treated like prisoners... What can I say? Prisoners?

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