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    Compare Babar Azam with Virat Kohli in five years : Younis Khan

    Dubai: Ask any cricket afficionado as to which batsman has the best cover drive in the game today - and chances are you will come across the following three names in all the nominations: Virat Kohli, Kane Williamson and Babar Azam. The last-named, who has been appointed Pakistan captain in the 50-overs game as well last week, has been easily one of the best things to have happened to Pakistan cricket in the last five years.

    The decision to appoint the country’s best batsman as the overall captain in the white ball game, as justified by their head coach and chief selector Misbah-ul Haq, is with an eye towards the 2023 ICC World Cup. As the 25-year-old tries to come to terms with the mantle of being one of the best batsmen in the world as well as the challenge of captaining one of the most unpredictable teams in the world, comparisons with his Indian counterpart Kohli have already begun in earnest.

    “He [Babar] has emerged over the last year or so into something that is going to be so special. We talked about how Virat Kohli is so good on the eye as a batsman. If you think Virat Kohli is good to watch, have a look at Babar Azam bat. My gosh, he is something special,” Tom Moody, former Australian player and now a reputed coach for T20 franchises, said in a podcast last week.

    This is where Younis Khan, former Pakistan captain and the country’s highest run-getter in Tests, has a word of caution. Speaking to Gulf News during a telephonic interview from Karachi, Younis felt any comparison between Kohli and Azam may get the eyeballs but is unfair on the latter at this stage. ‘‘You see, Kohli - who is now 31 and at the peak of his career - has been in international cricket for over a decade now and has proved himself in all conditions. The 70 international centuries that he has scored is a testimony to his class and abilities.

    ‘‘Babar, on the other hand, has made his international debut barely five years back. He already has 16 centuries under his belt and shows very good averages in both Tests and ODIs, but it will be unfair to start comparing the two right now. If you have to, compare Babar five years hence with the dominance that Kohli is showing in his game today,’’ said Younis, easily one of the alltime greats among Pakistan batsmen.

    Lavishing praise on Azam, who grabbed attention soon after his debut when he hit three ODI centuries on the trot against the West Indies in 2015 in the UAE, Younis said his willingness to learn will take the batsman far in his career. ‘‘Babar made his debut during the last two to three years of my career and I was really impressed by his humility. I have always felt that the more humble you are, you can achieve bigger goals in your life,’’ he observed.

    Younis felt that the one-day captaincy could not have at a better time for Azam. ‘‘It’s one of the right decisions taken by Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) after a while. Though he may not look it, Babar is quite a resilient boy and he excelled in the T20 format even with the additional responsibility of captaincy. This certainly showed he was ready for bigger things, though it would be quite a challenge as captaincy in the 50-overs game demands a lot more thinking.

    ‘‘It’s a young team that he has to lead, though there could be a few players senior in age to him. He has to be protective about the team and take it forward,’’ the batting legend said.

    Azam, who had a heady 2019 season with the bat, is quite realistic about the comparisons though. “Look he (Kohli) has already achieved a lot. He is a legend in his country. Honestly, there is no comparison with me right now but eventually, I also want to get where he is today,” he said in an interview late last year.

    “The media and people have drawn comparisons between me and Virat Kohli but I realize that I still need to get more runs in red-ball cricket to be ranked among the top players. That is why in recent months I have been focusing a lot on getting consistent scores in Test matches,” he added.

    https://gulfnews.com/sport/cricket/c...han-1.71540384


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    I would rather Babar Azam be himself and learn from Kane Williamson.

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    Can expect only sensible comments from such geniuses of the game.. Younis Khan, ladies and gentlemen

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    Finally some sensible comments by an ex-Pakistani cricketer

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    Make a lot more sense. Comparison with greats start once you play around 60 tests otherwise it's early.

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    Learn from Virat on batting and that’s about it. Please don’t learn his BC’s and MC’s.

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    Kohli isn't all that.
    Only 1 winning Test 100 in SENA.
    Fails in big ODI games like 2015 SF, 2017 CT final and 2019 SF.
    Bit of a bilateral bully in ODIs.
    Had a shocking Test series in Eng 2014 and NZ 2020 too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoomCricket View Post
    Kohli isn't all that.
    Fails in big ODI games like 2015 SF, 2017 CT final and 2019 SF.
    Bit of a bilateral bully in ODIs.
    Single digit scores in those games for VK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoomCricket View Post
    Kohli isn't all that.
    Only 1 winning Test 100 in SENA.
    Fails in big ODI games like 2015 SF, 2017 CT final and 2019 SF.
    Bit of a bilateral bully in ODIs.
    Had a shocking Test series in Eng 2014 and NZ 2020 too.
    Thank you, finally someone said it. All hoopla for such poor results. Kohli is easily the most overrated player ever, probably after Sachin!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forward Defensive Push View Post
    Thank you, finally someone said it. All hoopla for such poor results. Kohli is easily the most overrated player ever, probably after Sachin!
    He stil wins series after series from india

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    Why the need to compare him at all.

    There seems to be this obsession in Pakistan and amongst the fans to compare players.

    Let Babar Azam be Babar Azam.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Why the need to compare him at all.

    There seems to be this obsession in Pakistan and amongst the fans to compare players.

    Let Babar Azam be Babar Azam.
    Not just in Pakistan, comparisons happen everywhere.

    Interestingly, I had a look at the first 40 months of Kohli's career (Babar's current career span is 40 months) and compared the two -

    Babar - 26 tests 1850 runs 45.12 average 5 100s and 13 50s
    Kohli - 29 tests 1855 runs 39.46 average 6 100s 9 50s

    Babar is considerably ahead in terms of test performances at this stage while being in a far weaker team and only having a year of international cricket experience before debuting in tests, Kohli meanwhile had played 3 years of international cricket before debuting.

    Obviously it doesnt mean Babar is better, we know he isnt but it shows his progression is exceptional!

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    Babar has always rubbished the comparisons with Kohli - its only the fans and media who make these type of comparisons.

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    Babar will get lots of runs but the difference will be can be make match winning runs that's his challenge

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    Hopefully Babar can learn from Kohlis competitiveness and desire to be the best.

    Kane Williamson is an excellent player . But honestly dont really want a player who is happy to be where he is. Babar should look to be the best he can be. Which he seems to be living up to so far.

    It is possible to he a nice guy and still have the desire and competitiveness to win and be the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamaan View Post
    Babar will get lots of runs but the difference will be can be make match winning runs that's his challenge
    He has already done that in two global tournaments and a handful of test matches. There is no doubt he scores match winning runs now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asifnow View Post
    He has already done that in two global tournaments and a handful of test matches. There is no doubt he scores match winning runs now.
    I can remember one which was against New Zealand that was a sublime inings which one was the other one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Hopefully Babar can learn from Kohlis competitiveness and desire to be the best.

    Kane Williamson is an excellent player . But honestly dont really want a player who is happy to be where he is. Babar should look to be the best he can be. Which he seems to be living up to so far.

    It is possible to he a nice guy and still have the desire and competitiveness to win and be the best.
    Thats an odd comparison bro, Williamson and Root both outplayed Kohli in the CT2017 and the CWC 2019. Williamson has plenty of drive, dont worry about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asifnow View Post
    Thats an odd comparison bro, Williamson and Root both outplayed Kohli in the CT2017 and the CWC 2019. Williamson has plenty of drive, dont worry about that.
    Williamson is happy if NZ finish 2nd. He doesn't have that extra desire like Kohli. Kohli wants to be the best so he can win games for India.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Williamson is happy if NZ finish 2nd. He doesn't have that extra desire like Kohli. Kohli wants to be the best so he can win games for India.
    Huh?

    Are u talking about losing the WC on a technicality? Quote me where Williamson said he is happy with being second and didnt want to be first. Pretty sure he was absolutely gutted but handled it like a pro.

    Did Kohli fight his way into the final despite losing the semi? I cant remember him. According to you he should have bulldozed his way into the final right ?

    Behave!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asifnow View Post
    Huh?

    Are u talking about losing the WC on a technicality? Quote me where Williamson said he is happy with being second and didnt want to be first. Pretty sure he was absolutely gutted but handled it like a pro.

    Did Kohli fight his way into the final despite losing the semi? I cant remember him. According to you he should have bulldozed his way into the final right ?

    Behave!
    Lol ygm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forward Defensive Push View Post
    Thank you, finally someone said it. All hoopla for such poor results. Kohli is easily the most overrated player ever, probably after Sachin!
    agreed, as well as Wasim

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoomCricket View Post
    Kohli isn't all that.
    Only 1 winning Test 100 in SENA.
    Fails in big ODI games like 2015 SF, 2017 CT final and 2019 SF.
    Bit of a bilateral bully in ODIs.
    Had a shocking Test series in Eng 2014 and NZ 2020 too.
    What exactly has that got to do with his ability as a player?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Asifnow View Post
    Thats an odd comparison bro, Williamson and Root both outplayed Kohli in the CT2017 and the CWC 2019. Williamson has plenty of drive, dont worry about that.
    Williamson and root outplayed kohli in ct 17?
    Why don't you check stats before posting.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    What exactly has that got to do with his ability as a player?
    Legends like younis, miandad, sachin, dravid all have a total of 2 winning centuries in SENA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeeteshssaxena View Post
    Legends like younis, miandad, sachin, dravid all have a total of 2 winning centuries in SENA.
    Let’s say a batsman has 0 centuries in wins in SENA. What has that got to do with his ability as a player if he has numerous centuries in SENA overall? All he can do is score centuries, he cannot ensure that his centuries convert to wins for his team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    Let’s say a batsman has 0 centuries in wins in SENA. What has that got to do with his ability as a player if he has numerous centuries in SENA overall? All he can do is score centuries, he cannot ensure that his centuries convert to wins for his team.
    True.
    Virat kohli has 11 hundreds in SENA, younis khan has a total of 5 hundreds and somehow younis is a legend and kohli is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeeteshssaxena View Post
    True.
    Virat kohli has 11 hundreds in SENA, younis khan has a total of 5 hundreds and somehow younis is a legend and kohli is not.
    Kohli is 10X the player than Younis Khan was, and Younis Khan was a fine batsman. The man has freaking 70 international centuries already.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jeeteshssaxena View Post
    Williamson and root outplayed kohli in ct 17?
    Why don't you check stats before posting.?
    oh ok sorry bro, I think Root and Williamson didn't score centuries while Kohli did!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeeteshssaxena View Post
    Legends like younis, miandad, sachin, dravid all have a total of 2 winning centuries in SENA.
    That's a lie bro, Miandad has 6 centuries when playing away against England, NZ and Aus, leading to Pakistan winning those matches (22 wins in total I think).

    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    Let’s say a batsman has 0 centuries in wins in SENA. What has that got to do with his ability as a player if he has numerous centuries in SENA overall? All he can do is score centuries, he cannot ensure that his centuries convert to wins for his team.
    Everyone agrees Kohli is a great batsman, the difference is how do you rank greats above other greats? You then have to go into more detail, how many runs scored in winning causes, how many centuries in winning causes, how many of those in foreign and by definition, tougher conditions etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asifnow View Post
    Everyone agrees Kohli is a great batsman, the difference is how do you rank greats above other greats? You then have to go into more detail, how many runs scored in winning causes, how many centuries in winning causes, how many of those in foreign and by definition, tougher conditions etc.
    And how exactly the criteria of winning centuries matter in Tests? It's a criteria completely out of control for a batsman. Brian Lara, when he retired, held the world record of scoring the most Test centuries in loses. While Michael Slater has 11 of his 14 Test centuries in wins. Does it matter? Of course, not! Because that's something not within their control. What is in within their control however is scoring centuries.

    But yes, we do need to go into other details when checking out a batsman's statistics, like performance against the best teams, performance away from home, performance in various other countries, etc.


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    Virat in the last 15 Test innings, only four times he has gone over 31 runs virat who

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    Steven Smith is the best test batsman currently followed by Virat Kohli. Babar Azam should aim for the first spot. He is in top 5 already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamaan View Post
    Virat in the last 15 Test innings, only four times he has gone over 31 runs virat who
    I can't see Virat Kohli going past Sachin in either ODI's or Tests. He has just 3-4 years of international cricket left in him. The only way he can prolong his international career is if he stops playing that useless IPL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    I can't see Virat Kohli going past Sachin in either ODI's or Tests. He has just 3-4 years of international cricket left in him. The only way he can prolong his international career is if he stops playing that useless IPL.
    I agree with you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitman View Post
    And how exactly the criteria of winning centuries matter in Tests? It's a criteria completely out of control for a batsman. Brian Lara, when he retired, held the world record of scoring the most Test centuries in loses. While Michael Slater has 11 of his 14 Test centuries in wins. Does it matter? Of course, not! Because that's something not within their control. What is in within their control however is scoring centuries.

    But yes, we do need to go into other details when checking out a batsman's statistics, like performance against the best teams, performance away from home, performance in various other countries, etc.
    Winning is a major part of any sport, and if a player contributes more to his side winning than another, then he has a very good chance of being rated above. If you believe Slater was better than Lara, then go for it bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoomCricket View Post
    Kohli isn't all that.
    Only 1 winning Test 100 in SENA.
    Fails in big ODI games like 2015 SF, 2017 CT final and 2019 SF.
    Bit of a bilateral bully in ODIs.
    Had a shocking Test series in Eng 2014 and NZ 2020 too.
    Kohli has dominated series in South Africa, Australia, and England. The defeats haven't been due to his batting. How many batters by the age of 31 have dominated series in those countries?

    Kohli ovverated lol.
    Last edited by MenInG; 24th May 2020 at 13:56.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasan123 View Post
    Kohli has dominated series in South Africa, Australia, and England. The defeats haven't been due to his batting. How many batters by the age of 31 have dominated series in those countries?

    Kohli ovverated lol.
    What's his scores in the last 10 inings plz

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    You Are Considered a Mad Man if You Speak the Truth: Younis Khan

    You Are Considered a Mad Man if You Speak the Truth: Younis Khan

    Younis Khan recently spoke about the ill-behaviour of his teammates and went on the extent of saying he was considered a madman for speaking the truth

    IANS |May 25, 2020, 3:58 PM IST

    Former Pakistan captain Younis Khan recently spoke about the ill-behaviour of his teammates and went on the extent of saying he was considered a madman for speaking the truth during his time as captain of the team.

    Younis is regarded as one of the finest batsmen in the history of Pakistan cricket and is also the leading run-getter for them in the longest format. He revealed some players didn't like it when he pointed out that they weren't giving their all for the country but also mentioned that they were remorseful later.

    "You often face a situation in life where if you speak the truth, you are considered as a mad man. My fault was pointing out to a group of players that they were not pushing themselves hard enough on the field for the country," Younis was quoted as saying by Gulf News.

    "The players were, however, regretful later and we played as teammates long enough after that. I knew I had done nothing wrong for it's a lesson that I had learned from my father – to always speak the truth and always remain humble."

    Younis also spoke about the rise of batsman Babar Azam, who was recently made the ODI captain on Pakistan. Azam has been compared with India skipper Virat Kohli for a while now but Younis believes he still has a long way to go before he can be compared with the Indian talisman.

    "You see, Kohli - who is now 31 and at the peak of his career - has been in international cricket for over a decade and has proved himself in all conditions. The 70 international centuries that he has scored is a testimony to his class and abilities," Younis said.

    "Babar, on the other hand, made his international debut barely five years back. He already has 16 centuries under his belt and shows very good averages in both Tests and ODIs, but it will be unfair to start comparing the two right now. If you have to, compare Babar five years (from now) with the dominance that Kohli is showing in his game today," he added.

    Link: https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/n...n-2636495.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamaan View Post
    Virat in the last 15 Test innings, only four times he has gone over 31 runs virat who
    Virat LAST 15 test scores:
    17,21,136,0,12,254,51,76,60,23,82,140,37,45,139

    Total:1093 Runs
    Average - 52


    200's -1
    100's -3
    50's -3


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    Quote Originally Posted by King_Kohli View Post
    Virat LAST 15 test scores:
    17,21,136,0,12,254,51,76,60,23,82,140,37,45,139

    Total:1093 Runs
    Average - 52


    200's -1
    100's -3
    50's -3
    @shamaan
    Waiting for your come back post Sir...... VIRAT KOHLI who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoomBoomCricket View Post
    Kohli isn't all that.
    Only 1 winning Test 100 in SENA.
    Fails in big ODI games like 2015 SF, 2017 CT final and 2019 SF.
    Bit of a bilateral bully in ODIs.
    Had a shocking Test series in Eng 2014 and NZ 2020 too.
    By your logic, Munaf Patel is way better than Waqar with one WC final win.

    Virat is a batsman, to win tests bowlers should be able to take 20 wkts as well. Lara has 8 test centuries in win out of 34, Hayden/Langer/Slater have much better records in that regard.


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