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  • He'll be back, even better than before

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  • He'll he able to get back to his 2017 CT form

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  • He will return but won't be as good as before

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  • He has no chance, his international career is over

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    [VIDEOS] What will happen to Hassan Ali in future?

    A lot of setbacks for him in recent times and he hasn't been able to attain the heights he hit in 2017.

    Was that a one-off or will he make a comeback again in future and be an important part of the Pakistan team?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    A lot of setbacks for him in recent times and he hasn't been able to attain the heights he hit in 2017.

    Was that a one-off or will he make a comeback again in future and be an important part of the Pakistan team?
    He will make comeback but wont be as effective
    Last edited by Firebat; 22nd June 2020 at 20:57.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    A lot of setbacks for him in recent times and he hasn't been able to attain the heights he hit in 2017.

    Was that a one-off or will he make a comeback again in future and be an important part of the Pakistan team?
    I'm sure at some point he will return but I don't think he'll ever fulfill his potential which we saw in 2017. He'll just join the long line of average fast bowlers clinging onto selection with a few good moments here and there.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post
    A lot of setbacks for him in recent times and he hasn't been able to attain the heights he hit in 2017.

    Was that a one-off or will he make a comeback again in future and be an important part of the Pakistan team?
    I think he should work on his batting
    We have seen some gilmpses of his batting
    He can become a good handy bowling allrounder who can avg between 27-29 with ball and in mid 20s with the bat
    I dont see him returning as a front line fast bowler

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    He was a treat to watch between 2015-2018

    He will be back.

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    He needs to improve his batting and join as an allrounder, will be hard to come in the team as a solely a bowler with Shaheen, Naseem, Haris Rauf, Musa, Shinwari there

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    He started his international career well but I think he has literally fallen away after the CT final. I think we all fell j to the hype. Maybe the CT was just what he could do on good days and the rest of the time he is average .


    Doubt he will get back to that form especially after a back injury.

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    Delusions of grandeur combined with a vicious back injury.

    Improbable to come back from that in the surroundings of the world-renowned PCB medical staff.

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    Sharma and Dhawan taught him a lesson when his head was in the clouds - a lesson he will never forget.

    A decent bowler who hit a purple patch in 2017 and fooled people over his potential. A bit like how Junaid fooled people in 2012/2013.

    I think his career trajectory will follow a similar path to Junaid. He will be in and out of the team and make several comebacks but will never be able to nail down a permanent spot.

    I donít like Naseem and Hasnain but they have taken up his spot and have pushed Hassan down the pecking order.

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    I think Hassan will be like Junaid Khan or Sohail Tanvir. May play once in a while.

    I don't see him being permanent again.


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    A poor mans Umer Gul who hit his purple patch in 2017. He is not interested in improving rather he is chilling and dancing in streets

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    He has a lot of work to do but PCB should not give up on him - he has something in him - just needs guidance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sunny_majoka View Post
    A poor mans Umer Gul who hit his purple patch in 2017. He is not interested in improving rather he is chilling and dancing in streets
    Please don't compare with Umar Gul.
    Umar Gul much much better than Hasan Ali and Junaid Khan.
    Genuine and Handworker.

    Hasan Ali and Junaid Khan are gone case, I don't see any special talent.
    Pakistan have plenty bowling options, no need to worry about them.

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    He's too good and too young to not be back. Although his CT form is not sustainable in the modern game by anyone, he can still be a good LOI bowler

    A big challenge for him in the strong competition he's facing now. There at least 6 fast bowlers ahead of him in the pecking order

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    Quote Originally Posted by coy0607 View Post
    He's too good and too young to not be back. Although his CT form is not sustainable in the modern game by anyone, he can still be a good LOI bowler

    A big challenge for him in the strong competition he's facing now. There at least 6 fast bowlers ahead of him in the pecking order
    If PCB smart they would use him in odis and t20s and not use him in tests

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    He had become a caricature of himself. Getting smashed around by top order batsmen, and then still going for his over the top celebration when he would finally dismiss a tailender. It showed what his mentality was. He needs his head straightened out. Should toil away in domestic cricket and earn his place back if he is good enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamaan View Post
    If PCB smart they would use him in odis and t20s and not use him in tests
    definitely shouldn't be anywhere close to the Test team

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    Should play a complete season in domestics rather than forcing him into the national team when he recovers from the injury.

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    He can bounce back, but the focus on cricket needs to return, the guy needs to get his priorities right and most importantly the emphasis on hard work needs to return.



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    He can return with the same fire from 2016-17. But he must focus on cricket. He needs to realise he's not a finish product and must put unreal amount work on himself.


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    26 years old today - Needs to get his career back on line or will become a footnote in history.


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    Hassan Ali stopped working hard. Simple as that. You have to keep working hard or teams will sort you out fast.

    He became ineffective against even the weaker teams.

    But he is a talent. He has shown that. He can come back if he doesn't go the Umar Akmal way.

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    I really believed him to be special after the CT, 2017. He has been mostly disappointing since. Still can come back if he gets his head in to the game and works hard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Hopefully he is back stil can give Pakistan alot

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    Hassan Ali is a prime example of too much fame, too early - he just needs to break out of it and get himself together.


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    From the PCB:

    Ahmed Shehzad and Hasan Ali were unavailable for selection due to fitness for selection for the National T20 Cup


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    Karachi: Pacer Hasan Ali is likely to get fit ahead of the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy 2020-21 which is scheduled to start from September 25, reports suggested.

    However, the 26-year-old will not be available for selection in the upcoming home series against Zimbabwe as he has not played international cricket for more than a year now.

    Hasan had been picking injuries after the ICC 2019 World Cup in England. He had suffered a back injury during the initial round of the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy 2019.

    He came back in the final round of the tournament but suffered a rib fracture in November, ruling him out for six months. He played Pakistan Super League (PSL) season five but suffered another injury setback in May 2020.

    It must be noted that Hasan is included Central Punjab’s squad for upcoming domestic season.

    Source ARY


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    Hassan Ali is expected to play in the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy as per information shared with Pakpassion


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mir jibran View Post
    I think he should work on his batting
    We have seen some gilmpses of his batting
    He can become a good handy bowling allrounder who can avg between 27-29 with ball and in mid 20s with the bat
    I dont see him returning as a front line fast bowler
    Agree with this. He needs to develop into a batting all-rounder and play as a later middle order hitter. Pakistan needs this in ODIs and I can see him doing the job in T20Is as well if he works on his game.

    Bowling isn't his forte anymore.

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    We have seen Umar gul coming back and generating pace after serious back injuries, so why not him.
    Also he can avg 20 with the bat.

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    He needs to stop playing all sorts of T20s for a year and put full focus on getting fitness back, work on his lost skills of putting a ball on right spot in right shape and may be work on his batting - he has good potential to out bat Faheem Ashraf. At his physical capacity (height) and bowling pace, heíll never become a tearaway fast bowler, neither the new ball starter - his best chance is to become the 3rd/4th seemer to do the work horse job and contribute with bat. In Asia, if PAK is to play 2.5 spinners on some turners, he can be a very good asset as 2nd pacer, who can bat a bit.

    PCB/His FC team can help him in this regard - apart from facilitating more net times, he should be promoted to higher batting slot, may be at 7, if not 6! for domestic FC games and force him to think his batting like a batsman - itíll work. His bowling skills are lost simply because of too much focus on T20s, which destroys the fundamentals of any bowler of any type. He has to regain that from FC games and working with qualified coaches. Fitness is a prerequisite condition, no compromise there - and, he can gain that by bowling long hours in match conditions, at least 19-20 overs per match day, if not 23-24.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    He needs to stop playing all sorts of T20s for a year and put full focus on getting fitness back, work on his lost skills of putting a ball on right spot in right shape and may be work on his batting - he has good potential to out bat Faheem Ashraf. At his physical capacity (height) and bowling pace, he’ll never become a tearaway fast bowler, neither the new ball starter - his best chance is to become the 3rd/4th seemer to do the work horse job and contribute with bat. In Asia, if PAK is to play 2.5 spinners on some turners, he can be a very good asset as 2nd pacer, who can bat a bit.

    PCB/His FC team can help him in this regard - apart from facilitating more net times, he should be promoted to higher batting slot, may be at 7, if not 6! for domestic FC games and force him to think his batting like a batsman - it’ll work. His bowling skills are lost simply because of too much focus on T20s, which destroys the fundamentals of any bowler of any type. He has to regain that from FC games and working with qualified coaches. Fitness is a prerequisite condition, no compromise there - and, he can gain that by bowling long hours in match conditions, at least 19-20 overs per match day, if not 23-24.
    But was he injured from playing t20 cricket or the longer format the management have to take responsibility and manage players workload.

    Hassan ali is better in batting and bowling than ashraf

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamaan View Post
    But was he injured from playing t20 cricket or the longer format the management have to take responsibility and manage players workload.

    Hassan ali is better in batting and bowling than ashraf
    He was injured for his body not being able to cope with the stress of Test cricket - he became Test regular in later stages of career and got injured. Also, I believe he kept playing T20 cricket hiding injuries - itís Mickey Mouse game where you need to be active for four overs, but it doesnít allow proper rehabilitations- eventually youíll break down.

    Management canít take responsibility of PAK internationals running to play Hong Kong super six, bowling on AstroTurfs and risking your ankle, groin & ligaments. Players themselves have to draw their own boundaries for the sake of own career.

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    Stumbled on this video. Hilarious!



    Have some Sehwag in your life.

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    Good, Pak will atleast have bit more experience available if he gets his form and rhythm right especially in tests. Also will provide good batting depth and options for LOIs.

    Hopefully he has worked a bit in his batting during this time, not sure if Pak players usually do those kind of things in off season or rehabs. Pat Cummins is a really good example of someone who was not half the batsman he is today as he worked on his batting during the time out with back injury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    He was injured for his body not being able to cope with the stress of Test cricket - he became Test regular in later stages of career and got injured. Also, I believe he kept playing T20 cricket hiding injuries - it’s Mickey Mouse game where you need to be active for four overs, but it doesn’t allow proper rehabilitations- eventually you’ll break down.

    Management can’t take responsibility of PAK internationals running to play Hong Kong super six, bowling on AstroTurfs and risking your ankle, groin & ligaments. Players themselves have to draw their own boundaries for the sake of own career.
    Were has he bowled on astro turfs.mabagement need to know which bowlers are required for each format for example not over bowling bowlers hence the reason why players retire from test before any other format

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Hassan Ali is a prime example of too much fame, too early - he just needs to break out of it and get himself together.
    I've seen that insinuation thrown around quite often for Hassan Ali. Do we have any evidence to back that up or is just based on the fact that he is not as reserved as some of our other cricketers and does what he does off the field more openly than most Pakistani cricketers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowflake View Post
    I've seen that insinuation thrown around quite often for Hassan Ali. Do we have any evidence to back that up or is just based on the fact that he is not as reserved as some of our other cricketers and does what he does off the field more openly than most Pakistani cricketers?
    Obviously I don't know him personally so my observations are based upon his social media footprint.

    I will be gladly proven wrong but to me that proof will be in his ability to make a comeback and win games for Pakistan.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Obviously I don't know him personally so my observations are based upon his social media footprint.

    I will be gladly proven wrong but to me that proof will be in his ability to make a comeback and win games for Pakistan.
    Definitely not trying to prove you wrong or anything, I just feel like quite a few posters here have been quick to jump to that conclusion, when in reality, they have no evidence to back it up other than going by his social media activities.

    I think we've just gotten used to cricketers with minimal to no personality and often mistake that for maturity/hard work. Hassan, for all we know, might be one of the most hard working guy in the Pakistan team whose just had rotten luck with injuries in the past couple years!

    Maybe I am just biased in favor of cricketers that express themselves and have a bit of character! Our team, these days, is just filled with timid and uninspiring individuals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Good, Pak will atleast have bit more experience available if he gets his form and rhythm right especially in tests. Also will provide good batting depth and options for LOIs.

    Hopefully he has worked a bit in his batting during this time, not sure if Pak players usually do those kind of things in off season or rehabs. Pat Cummins is a really good example of someone who was not half the batsman he is today as he worked on his batting during the time out with back injury.
    I am sure he has. Not much else he could have been doing and I distinctly remember seeing a clip of him with Shadab and saying something along the lines of ďagar ye batsman ban sakta hai tou mai bhi ban sakta hunĒ (if he can become a batsman, so can I). Talent is definitely there, what I would like most is to see him work with a coach like Gio Collusi or even just take good tips from Hashim Amla and Younis Khan at Zalmi to improve things like balance, head position, and 1-2 basic shots. Obviously should work with YK through the national team as well.

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    In an interview with Zalmi teammate Kamran Akmal, Hassan has confirmed he has mostly recovered from injuries and is ready to play subject to passing medical tests.

    He has also confirmed that he was overbowled, but takes some responsibility himself as he wanted to play every match and every series for Pakistan as long as he was performing. He didnít realize his muscles were weakening until after the fact, causing stiffness in his back. These later turned out to be spasms in the muscle and injuries. It all culminated when he deadlifted a large amount at the NCA which ruptured his back.

    He has been gradually rebuilding the workload and is ready to play again for Zalmi, in domestics, and for Pakistan, and is in better rhythm since PSL earlier this year.
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    Wasim Khan needs to sack people who treat these injuries, so many careers ruined at NCA. @Saj

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    Heís too short to succeed as a specialist bowler.

    But if he can average 30 as a batsman in Tests, then he could be a terrific asset at Number 8 as the fourth quick outside Asia and third quick in Asia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    He’s too short to succeed as a specialist bowler.

    But if he can average 30 as a batsman in Tests, then he could be a terrific asset at Number 8 as the fourth quick outside Asia and third quick in Asia.
    So we might azwell not play naseem shah

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    He's still only 26. He's got his best 5 years ahead of him. Hopefully he can regain his 2017 form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aloo paratha View Post
    He's still only 26. He's got his best 5 years ahead of him. Hopefully he can regain his 2017 form.
    He will surpass his 2017 form. Hasan will carry the Pakistan bowling in the 2020s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rayyman View Post
    He will surpass his 2017 form. Hasan will carry the Pakistan bowling in the 2020s.
    Maybe a bit optimistic

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    Quote Originally Posted by aloo paratha View Post
    Maybe a bit optimistic
    Donít be Mamoon

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    People are writing him out way too soon and expecting him to average around 30 in unrealistic to say the least.

    He is a good cricketer, a rhythm bowler, a bit like gul. When things are going well for him, he is all well, but when they don't they just won't over the course of the match.
    Needs to work on his fitness and swing and seam. He has a good inswinger when in rhythm but doesn't have the outswinger. His pace was good before his injuries. Hopefully he can regain that.
    Don't really believe all the fuss about his height. Might not be much effective in australia and south africa but still can be a useful player elsewhere.
    As a batter he could be used a sunil narine type batter in t20is. and can be used as a pinch hitter in odis to up the ante in the middle overs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    Heís too short to succeed as a specialist bowler.

    But if he can average 30 as a batsman in Tests, then he could be a terrific asset at Number 8 as the fourth quick outside Asia and third quick in Asia.
    Quote Originally Posted by shamaan View Post
    So we might azwell not play naseem shah
    Naseem is borderline, but heís faster and he has a better action.

    You certainly canít play both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    Naseem is borderline, but he’s faster and he has a better action.

    You certainly can’t play both.
    Isnt naseem action body more likely to get injuried thou.

    Hassan if improved his batting can be decent all rounder

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    Difficult to attain 2017 level........ Very tough but it's upto him now........best option to strengthen his batting and make a case of allrounder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    Naseem is borderline, but heís faster and he has a better action.

    You certainly canít play both.
    Naseem is more prone to back problem bcoz of his action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    He’s too short to succeed as a specialist bowler.

    But if he can average 30 as a batsman in Tests, then he could be a terrific asset at Number 8 as the fourth quick outside Asia and third quick in Asia.
    If he can average 30 with bat in Test, I think he can try for a specialist batting position in PAK team - bowling will be added benefit.

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    Central Punjab in dire need of Hassan to recover his fitness.

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    Good to see him working hard to get his fitness back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMHS View Post
    If he can average 30 with bat in Test, I think he can try for a specialist batting position in PAK team - bowling will be added benefit.
    I know you're teasing me, but I almost agree.

    Hasan Ali is a gifted hitter, but if he can work on his defensive technique to the point that he can survive 50 balls in every innings - that's more than half a Test session - he should be able to average 30 with the bat.

    At that point you have Shadab Khan batting at 7 and averaging 35, and Hasan Ali at 8 averaging 30.

    It takes away any need to select Faheem Ashraf, and it is an insurance policy against collapses. The Test defeat at Old Trafford was because of batting collapses.

    In the First Innings, Shadab Khan came in at 176-5 and lifted them to 326 all out by scoring 45.

    In the Second Innings, Shadab Khan came in at 101-5 but only scored 15, and the team was 169 all out.

    If your Numbers 7 and 8 can average a combined 65 runs per wicket, their partnerships should add 130 runs per Test. That's a huge potential area of improvement for Pakistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    I know you're teasing me, but I almost agree.

    Hasan Ali is a gifted hitter, but if he can work on his defensive technique to the point that he can survive 50 balls in every innings - that's more than half a Test session - he should be able to average 30 with the bat.

    At that point you have Shadab Khan batting at 7 and averaging 35, and Hasan Ali at 8 averaging 30.

    It takes away any need to select Faheem Ashraf, and it is an insurance policy against collapses. The Test defeat at Old Trafford was because of batting collapses.

    In the First Innings, Shadab Khan came in at 176-5 and lifted them to 326 all out by scoring 45.

    In the Second Innings, Shadab Khan came in at 101-5 but only scored 15, and the team was 169 all out.

    If your Numbers 7 and 8 can average a combined 65 runs per wicket, their partnerships should add 130 runs per Test. That's a huge potential area of improvement for Pakistan.
    How many pure fast bowlers have been turned into an all rounder mid way through their career recently?

    Someone who springs to mind is Irfan Pathan, and it absolutely ended his career.

    Not sure it's a simple as just telling someone to 'work on your batting more'

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    I'm no fitness expert, but that exercise that Mr. Generator is doing with the added weights can't be good for his back specially when he is recovering from a long term back injury.
    Last edited by Syed1; 13th October 2020 at 10:30.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    I'm no fitness expert, but that exercise that Mr. Generator is doing with the added weights can't be good for his back specially when he is recovering from a long term back injury.
    If hes recovered from the injury then the exercise is good as it will help him build muscle around that area but that exercise should be only few reps and then build it up throw days weeks and months

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitthestump View Post
    How many pure fast bowlers have been turned into an all rounder mid way through their career recently?

    Someone who springs to mind is Irfan Pathan, and it absolutely ended his career.

    Not sure it's a simple as just telling someone to 'work on your batting more'
    The thing is, I firmly believe that a Test bowling attack should NEVER be your best four bowlers: it is the best TWO bowlers who can't bat, plus a "good enough" bowler who can bat at 8, and a "pretty good" bowler who can bat at 9.

    Hasan Ali will never be as good a bowler as Shaheen Shah Afridi or Naseem Shah will be. So his only route to Test selection requires him to be able to bat at Number 8 or Number 9. And bat reliably, not slog for half an hour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    I'm no fitness expert, but that exercise that Mr. Generator is doing with the added weights can't be good for his back specially when he is recovering from a long term back injury.
    shouldnt be a problem, im guessing he deadlifted a weight too heavy for him and bent his back to the point it ruptured the disc, that happens due to unequal compression forces when you are bending over. what he is doing in this exercise would be stretching the back, which helps with decompressing the spine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    The thing is, I firmly believe that a Test bowling attack should NEVER be your best four bowlers: it is the best TWO bowlers who can't bat, plus a "good enough" bowler who can bat at 8, and a "pretty good" bowler who can bat at 9.

    Hasan Ali will never be as good a bowler as Shaheen Shah Afridi or Naseem Shah will be. So his only route to Test selection requires him to be able to bat at Number 8 or Number 9. And bat reliably, not slog for half an hour.
    May be you are right here - three of the greatest Test attacks in history actually followed this formula - Benaudís Australia, Lloydís WIN & Ponting/Waughís Australia. I guess Benaud had an added advantage to have KR Miller; but apart from that he batted at 8 & RR Lindwall at 9 (Later AK Davidson). Similarly, I am sure Lloyd picked Malcolm Marshall at 8 for his batting while same goes for Warne for that Aussie team, followed by Lee at 9.

    Therefore, I have to agree that Warne, Lee, Marshall, Benaud, Lindwall/Davidson were fortunate to play around 1000 Tests together for 4000+ wickets at <23 average for their batting at 8-9, their bowling was bonus. Same can be said for PAKís own Wasim Akram.....

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    A career in politics maybe?

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    Pakistan fast bowler Hasan Ali called on Punjab Minister for Sports and Youth Affairs Rai Taimoor Khan Bhatti here at National Hockey Stadium on Thursday.

    Fast bowler Hasan Ali, who has represented Pakistan in nine Tests, 53 ODIs and 30 T20 International matches so far, requested Punjab Minister for Sports to upgrade the cricket ground in his native city.

    Upon Hasan’s request, Rai Taimoor Khan Bhatti has directed the Sports Department to submit recommendations in this regard.

    Speaking on this occasion, Punjab Minister for Sports, said fast bowler Hasan Ali is an asset of the country and expressed his hope that the pacer will be in action in the coming days after recovering from his injury. “It is our prime obligation to resolve the issues of our national heroes. Hasan earned a good name for the country through his magnificent performances all over the cricket world.”

    He said new sports facilities are being provided in Gujranwala besides upgradation of other sports venues. “Gakhar Sports Arena is equipped with modern facilities. This project is in the final stages of its completion and it will be inaugurated in near future,” he added.

    Punjab Minister for Sports further said that Sports Policy has been finalized to resolve the issues of the players. “This policy will play a revolutionary role for the welfare of players,” he asserted.

    Fast bowler Hasan Ali, on this occasion, said that sports culture is growing in Punjab under the leadership of Punjab Minister for Sports, “ Several new grounds are being built in the province. Sports Board Punjab is making useful efforts to trace fresh sports talent from remote areas of the province. SBP also created history by organizing the historic Kabaddi World Cup early this year,” he added.

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    Fast bowlers Hasan Ali and Naseem Shah were not considered for selection for Zimbabwe series as they are recovering from injuries, but have been advised to play in the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy to prove their fitness before they are considered for selection.[PCB Release]


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    Hassan Ali included for Central Punjab for Quaid-e-Azam Trophy tournament 2020-21


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    Bowled just 6.2 overs with 2 wickets out of 100 overs as of now in Northern’s first innings. Not sure whats the issue.

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    @Saj any update about his injury?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Bowled just 6.2 overs with 2 wickets out of 100 overs as of now in Northern’s first innings. Not sure whats the issue.
    He should have been rested for the second game then brought back for the third poor from the management

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    Hassan ali should not play all matches he needs to be given a rest until he builds his fitness poor from the management

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    He is a good talent. If he is fit again, he can be an asset to the Pak team. I will keep him to LOIs for now till his fitness improves. With his batting, he can be a good addition in the test team as well.

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    Made some enquiries about Hassan. It seems he had a problem with his groin but it's not believed to be very serious.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Made some enquiries about Hassan. It seems he had a problem with his groin but it's not believed to be very serious.
    Good to hear it's not arm or back related. Hopefully this bad luck of injuries will stop for him.

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