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View Poll Results: Do you believe that India is actively supporting the Baloch Liberation Army?

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  • Yes, India has good reasons to destabilize Pakistan via BLA

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  • No, India is not providing assistance to BLA

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    Do you believe that India is actively supporting the Baloch Liberation Army?

    The KSE attack is the latest but there have been other instances in the past also.

    To many this is an example of India's active support of the BLA but others feel that BLA are indigenous and fueled by excesses against the people of Balochistan


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    Add PTM and Sindh Liberation army to the list too.


    Azaadi. InshAllah.

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    You'd be a fool not to.


    Pakistan is that kid who never studies for his exams but is surprised when he fails.

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    But isnt this also not a convenient way of dumping our issues on India? Isnt this the same thing they do in Kashmir?


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    Yes, there's a strong evidence for their support of armed groups in Balochistan and their interferrence in Afghanistan. Also India has already supported separatist insurgents in the past - 1971 was only 50 years ago.

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    Yes. They’ve said as much

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    There is sufficient evidence that this is happening.




    Sua cuique voluptas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    But isnt this also not a convenient way of dumping our issues on India? Isnt this the same thing they do in Kashmir?
    India supports militancy in Balochistan just like we support militancy in J&K.

    India defends itself by arguing that it is in response to Pakistan’s activities in J&K, and Pakistan defends itself by arguing that it’s activities in J&K are justified because it is a disputed territory.

    Neither side can claim a moral high ground, and thus it is futile to see our PM pointing fingers at India in the parliament. These actions are useful for domestic consumption but have zero impact internationally.

    Pakistan’s international reputation is far worse than India’s and Imran’s latest statement (“slip of tongue”) on Osama have only made things worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    But isnt this also not a convenient way of dumping our issues on India? Isnt this the same thing they do in Kashmir?
    They have already done so in 1971. And openly bragged about Balochistan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    India supports militancy in Balochistan just like we support militancy in J&K.

    India defends itself by arguing that it is in response to Pakistan’s activities in J&K, and Pakistan defends itself by arguing that it’s activities in J&K are justified because it is a disputed territory.

    Neither side can claim a moral high ground, and thus it is futile to see our PM pointing fingers at India in the parliament. These actions are useful for domestic consumption but have zero impact internationally.

    Pakistan’s international reputation is far worse than India’s and Imran’s latest statement (“slip of tongue”) on Osama have only made things worse.
    India supported Bengali insurgents long before the Kashmir insurgency started in the 90s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    India supports militancy in Balochistan just like we support militancy in J&K.

    India defends itself by arguing that it is in response to Pakistan’s activities in J&K, and Pakistan defends itself by arguing that it’s activities in J&K are justified because it is a disputed territory.

    Neither side can claim a moral high ground, and thus it is futile to see our PM pointing fingers at India in the parliament. These actions are useful for domestic consumption but have zero impact internationally.

    Pakistan’s international reputation is far worse than India’s and Imran’s latest statement (“slip of tongue”) on Osama have only made things worse.
    Glad you admit the fact that India supports militancy in Pakistan - clearly shows india is also a terrorist funding country. They always point the fingers at Pakistan but they do it to a much larger scale - BLA, MQM, other separatist groups in Sindh, PTM and probably more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    But isnt this also not a convenient way of dumping our issues on India? Isnt this the same thing they do in Kashmir?
    Interesting point cause without insurancy we rarely even talk about that province so a little introspection will go a long way in fixing the issue rather than blaming it all on India yes they are responsible but they did see a crack in the foundation and know they're using it

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    both countries support militancy within the other, the only difference is regular Pakistanis are far more likely to admit it, especially when it comes to Kashmir, rather than playing the holier than thou card even when they know better.

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    Resounding yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minnowbasher View Post
    Glad you admit the fact that India supports militancy in Pakistan - clearly shows india is also a terrorist funding country. They always point the fingers at Pakistan but they do it to a much larger scale - BLA, MQM, other separatist groups in Sindh, PTM and probably more.
    India is worse, they do it in so many countries. India had backed the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka, they've supported separatists in Nepal and are actively interferring in the domestic politics of the Maldives and Bangladesh, as well as Afghanistan. Bhutan is already a client state of India that is trying to break free, India is the worse neighbhor you could ask for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giannis View Post
    India is worse, they do it in so many countries. India had backed the Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka, they've supported separatists in Nepal and are actively interferring in the domestic politics of the Maldives and Bangladesh, as well as Afghanistan. Bhutan is already a client state of India that is trying to break free, India is the worse neighbhor you could ask for.
    India supports the 'freedom fighters' in Balochistan, not the terrorists. It's the same way in which Pakistan supports the 'freedom fighters' in Kashmir and not the terrorists.

    One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter. Kya Karein?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gani999 View Post
    India supports the 'freedom fighters' in Balochistan, not the terrorists. It's the same way in which Pakistan supports the 'freedom fighters' in Kashmir and not the terrorists.

    One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter. Kya Karein?
    Likewise the same case in Bengal and Khaalistan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Giannis View Post
    Likewise the same case in Bengal and Khaalistan
    Except that Pakistan's Bengal got liberated from it and the Khalistan movement is more dead than alive.

    Having said that, I don't think India should be playing such games, given how badly Pakistan has burned its fingers doing it. But India does have a successful history of breaking Pakistan in 1971, so they are probably emboldened by that.
    Last edited by gani999; 1st July 2020 at 01:15.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gani999 View Post
    Except that Pakistan's Bengal got liberated from it and the Khalistan movement is more dead than alive.

    Having said that, I don't think India should be playing such games, given how badly Pakistan has burned its fingers doing it. But India does have a successful history of breaking Pakistan in 1971, so they are probably emboldened by that.
    There is a huge difference between Bengal and Balochistan.

    Bengal - was located thousands of miles away from West Pakistan. The majority of people of a United Pakistan lived there, but were denied there right to form a goverment as the people in West Pakistan did not want a goverment from East Pakistan to rule over them. So it was easy for India to meddle over there.

    Baluchistan - is only 40% Baloch, the main other group is Pashtun with various other small ethnic groups. Also Unlike with Bengali's who are in also in West Bengal, there are no significant amount of Baloch in India. So most Indians have zero idea that there millions of Sindhi's and Punjabi's who are of Baloch descent. The most famous of them would be the Zardari family. The chief Minister of Punjab is also a Baloch.

    So because of that its unlikely that India can succeed in meddling in Baluchistan, as they know very little about that culture of the province, the majority of people dont want to leave Pakistan, and as it is not thousands of miles away.

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    Support can mean multiple things. Emotional support, Financial Support, Moral Support, armerd support.

    Since apparently according to posters here India is a super poor country with outdated weapons and soldiers, that leaves us with moral and Emotional support which I guess is harmless and we shouldn’t stress too much about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Local.Dada View Post
    Support can mean multiple things. Emotional support, Financial Support, Moral Support, armerd support.

    Since apparently according to posters here India is a super poor country with outdated weapons and soldiers, that leaves us with moral and Emotional support which I guess is harmless and we shouldn’t stress too much about it.
    But according to Indians, India is so far ahead of Pakistan that the two can't even used in same sentence, so Pakistan wouldn't even be able to do moral and emotional support for separatists in India.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gani999 View Post
    Except that Pakistan's Bengal got liberated from it and the Khalistan movement is more dead than alive.

    Having said that, I don't think India should be playing such games, given how badly Pakistan has burned its fingers doing it. But India does have a successful history of breaking Pakistan in 1971, so they are probably emboldened by that.
    Y'all take credit over the dumbest things

    You clearly don't understand geopolitics and war history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ahsan17 View Post
    But according to Indians, India is so far ahead of Pakistan that the two can't even used in same sentence, so Pakistan wouldn't even be able to do moral and emotional support for separatists in India.
    Good point but Pak can always provide “religious” support and the advantage of that is lot of young men are ready to blow stuff up and themselves for free. I mean I may be Indian and you may be Pakistani but Dil to desi hai bhai, free Ke maal me alag hi mazaa hai na?

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    KARACHI: The Sindh secretariat on Wednesday announced it was beefing the security of the building following the attack on the Pakistan Stock Exchange (PSX) on Monday in which three security personnel were martyred and four terrorists were killed.

    Gunmen armed with latest weapons and grenades targeted the PSX compound in the city in a bid to take hostages.

    A notification issued by the secretariat said people will not be unnecessarily allowed inside the building neither will police mobiles accompanying VIPs be permitted to enter or given permission to park inside.

    “Only those cars that have tokens will be allowed inside the secretariat premises,” the notification said.

    Earlier, Sindh Assembly speaker Agha Siraj Durrani told lawmakers that the assembly building could be the target of a terrorist attack.

    Speaking during a session of the provincial assembly on Monday, the speaker informed the lawmakers that the Sindh Assembly had been facing threats of terror attacks. Durrani said he had earlier received warnings that the assembly building could come under terrorist attack.

    He said photographs of the provincial assembly building had been obtained from terrorists who were earlier arrested. The Speaker said that after receiving threats, security measures for the provincial assembly building had been heightened.

    Durrani said the Sindh chief minister was fully apprised of the entire situation. He advised the legislators to remain fully alert to such a threatening situation.

    Armed militants had arrived at the PSX compound in a sedan on Monday morning and attempted to enter it from the parking ground side as the business started. They were seen shouldering backpacks and carrying automatic weaponry in an amateur video captured by an eyewitness.

    After failing to enter the compound, the militants launched a gun and grenade attack and attempted to storm the building while opening indiscriminate fire. They were engaged by security personnel posted and failed to make headway amidst the heavy exchange of fire.

    Four militants were killed in the exchange of fire along with two PSX security guards and a police officer during the face-off.

    https://www.geo.tv/latest/295757-sin...ing-psx-attack


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    I heard about a region called Balochistan for the first time here on PP a few years back. Then realized it had some issues and was the Pak version of a mini Kashmir, much later. So, India might or might not be involved there, but it has never been part of our consciousness. It's only in recent times during the Modi era that I've started seeing Balochistan entering Youtube comments from Indian users.

    So either we've been stirring trouble quietly and efficiently before Modi. Or it could be the old Pak cricket fan malaise of blaming every loss to India on fixing, coming out here - we are a happy, united country, it's India that's to blame.

    And those who quote medical treatment that some Baloch separatist allegedly received in India - didn't some top Taliban guy get treated in Imran's cancer hospital?


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