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    "The excitement of wearing the Pakistan star on your chest is something different" : Fawad Alam

    Fawad Alam speaking on PCB video

    "The excitement of wearing the Pakistan star on your chest is something different; Its a proud feeling as all the club and FC cricket you play is for that reason"

    "All the coaching staff we have such as Head Coach, Bowling and Spin or Batting ones are all big names that we have grown up watching on TV and they have been source of inspiration for us; Two of those, Misbah and Younis, are players who I have shared the dressing room with during their playing days and now I am getting a chance to play under their coaching which is a blessing from Allah swt; Its a matter of honour for me that I got to learn from them when they were playing and now I am getting the same chance when they are coaching the side"

    "We are like a family on this tour and are doing whatever we can to help each other out - doesnt matter if there are juniors or seniors - this is what makes the team grow and become better; If we have a family like this then it has a positive effect on your performances"

    "You get to understand each person in the side and that helps in team-building"

    "Given the SOPs we are gelling really well together by involving ourselves in activities such as playing FIFA, carrom etc"

    "Of course I am missing my family such as parents & siblings, wife and kids, but when it comes to national duty then we have to put that in front and make a lot of sacrifices"

    "We have to move forward but its a tough time now as it was before as well in Pakistan when we had restrictions on movement and meeting people"

    "But things get easier if the family is supporting in such matters; The family understands the issues involved but they are happy as I am now part of the Pakistan squad and making a comeback and their best wishes are with me"

    "Fans have always supported me whether on social media or elsewhere, their blessings and duas have taken me further"

    "When there is no one to clap for you in an empty ground then that makes a big difference, when you play a good shot and their is applause - all these things we will all miss but these are days of COVID-19; You have always supported us and you will be cheering us on TV also"

    "Its troubling times for all of us and Inshallah we will get through this"
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    Make or break series for him. If he fails, he will most probably never play for Pakistan again.

    He doesnít have a good record when it comes to performing in crucial matches, crucial in terms of his career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Make or break series for him. If he fails, he will most probably never play for Pakistan again.

    He doesnít have a good record when it comes to performing in crucial matches, crucial in terms of his career.
    Unlucky place and opposition for him to make a comeback against. I will be extremely surprised if he does well. No 6 will definetly not suit his style of play.

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    Keep confident and relaxed and youíll do well InshAllah. Have faith in Allah and youíll do good.

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    Still a question of whether he will even play especially if Pakistan go with 5 bowlers.

    Personally, I think Pakistan should drop Shafiq, have Fawad at No. 5 and go with the 5 bowlers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedwoodOriginal View Post
    Still a question of whether he will even play especially if Pakistan go with 5 bowlers.

    Personally, I think Pakistan should drop Shafiq, have Fawad at No. 5 and go with the 5 bowlers.
    It will be cruel if they don't allow Fawad even to play this game. My gut says Fawad comes in for Haris and Sarfraz comes in for Rizwan (subject to Rizwan's arrival to England). The weakest link in my eyes right now is Yasir Shah who has been topsy turvy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoaibbtt View Post
    It will be cruel if they don't allow Fawad even to play this game. My gut says Fawad comes in for Haris and Sarfraz comes in for Rizwan (subject to Rizwan's arrival to England). The weakest link in my eyes right now is Yasir Shah who has been topsy turvy.
    He absolutely should play but you never know with the team management.

    Can't drop Yasir Shah because you need a specialist spinner in those conditions if the pitch deteriorates. If its a pitch with not much for the spinners then I think they should go with Shadab because of what he brings with the bat and in the field.

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    This will be interesting with many thinking that Fawad is past his best.

    If he plays, it will be a very tough time against Archer, Broad and Anderson.



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    Quote Originally Posted by RedwoodOriginal View Post
    He absolutely should play but you never know with the team management.

    Can't drop Yasir Shah because you need a specialist spinner in those conditions if the pitch deteriorates. If its a pitch with not much for the spinners then I think they should go with Shadab because of what he brings with the bat and in the field.
    Well I remember watching a batting nets clip and Yasir was getting spanked by Fawad. I would've liked to have seen K. Bhattti but hey ho what you gonna do. I'm getting a funny feeling in my bones that Faheem will get a go ahead of Fawad which will be like i said criminal.

    Fawad from what i saw in the QeA trophy starts off with the awkward stance or at least i don't see it as much now but when he's growing in confidence he plays his shots with some determination like an ordinary left hander. I'm hoping that these last few years are Fawad's redemption song.

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    If does play I would play him at 5, people saying itís hard for him and a tough tour but I take a different view , if he performs he performs on this tour , there is no way he can be dropped for the next one .

    Best of luck fawad am rooting for you !

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    I would be happy to eat my words but I don't see Fawad scoring any runs even if he gets the chance. His domestic numbers are inflated due to the incorrect way in which our domestic circuit was run for a decade. With the new domestic structure of limited teams, going forward we would rightly have players of best ability topping charts.

    In any case, Fawad doesn't like bounce, swing or for that matter fast bowling. He won't like Archer, Broad or Woakes. Fawad is very good temperamentally against spinners and dry/dead wickets. He won't make a difference here and after that he should be discarded for good.

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    It's criminal how Asad Shafiq has been given free ride for 10 years, and Azhar Ali for the last 3 years, yet neither ever look like losing their place in the side.

    Meanwhile Fawad guts it out in domestic cricket, has scored 34 FC hundreds and has maintained an average of well over 50 for years but doesn't get a look in.

    This is the definition of liking and disliking in our selection system. Same goes for Zafar Gohar - who's only been called up as a net bowler while Yasir and Shadab seemingly have to murder someone before getting dropped.

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    Safe to say he'll actually be in the playing XI.

    I swear whenever he gets the chance to play something always has to go wrong. Fawad gets selected in the squad, doesn't play at all. Now, he'll most likely play but not in front of a crowd. Equivalent exchange is cruel.

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    Abid
    Shan
    Azhar
    Asad

    Guranteed slots.

    Fawad at number 6 maybe?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Abid
    Shan
    Azhar
    Asad

    Guranteed slots.

    Fawad at number 6 maybe?
    Fawad at 5, Asad at 6, perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Abid
    Shan
    Azhar
    Asad

    Guranteed slots.

    Fawad at number 6 maybe?
    Babar?

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    Big series for him, if he fails he's gone and if he succeeds he gets another tour. Coming at No.6 could help him also being able to bowl a bit will be a plus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Abid
    Shan
    Azhar
    Asad

    Guranteed slots.

    Fawad at number 6 maybe?
    Faheem Ashraf? could he take Fawad's spot?


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    Faheem Ashraf? could he take Fawad's spot?
    I can see that happening to be honest but really depends on conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedwoodOriginal View Post
    Still a question of whether he will even play especially if Pakistan go with 5 bowlers.

    Personally, I think Pakistan should drop Shafiq, have Fawad at No. 5 and go with the 5 bowlers.
    Pakistan's batting is too weak to go with just 5 batsmen. Abid and Shan are unproven, Azhar is a walking wicket, Babar is the only reliable batsmen. I can't see any scenario in which they drop a batsmen, especially under the guidance of someone as cautious as Misbah

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    Quote Originally Posted by coy0607 View Post
    Pakistan's batting is too weak to go with just 5 batsmen. Abid and Shan are unproven, Azhar is a walking wicket, Babar is the only reliable batsmen. I can't see any scenario in which they drop a batsmen, especially under the guidance of someone as cautious as Misbah
    Yea i think that will be a factor. The only other threat for Fawad is perhaps chachu ifti but he had his chance and he blew it

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    Quote Originally Posted by coy0607 View Post
    Pakistan's batting is too weak to go with just 5 batsmen. Abid and Shan are unproven, Azhar is a walking wicket, Babar is the only reliable batsmen. I can't see any scenario in which they drop a batsmen, especially under the guidance of someone as cautious as Misbah
    Shadab and fahim more than capable with bat in tests play shadab fahim and 3 fast bowlers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    Abid
    Shan
    Azhar
    Asad

    Guranteed slots.

    Fawad at number 6 maybe?
    Don't be surprised if both Rizwan and Sarfaraz are both picked for at least one of the Tests.



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    Fawad deserves the series. 3 tests is a fair chance to give someone . This should equate to 5-6 innings. Itís down to him to perform .

    He should not be discarded after one test . He is on the team on merit , and even if he is 34 he still has 3-4 years in him as long he is performing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenKhan View Post
    Fawad deserves the series. 3 tests is a fair chance to give someone . This should equate to 5-6 innings. It’s down to him to perform .

    He should not be discarded after one test . He is on the team on merit , and even if he is 34 he still has 3-4 years in him as long he is performing.
    Exactly. Sami Aslam debuted against England so i think Fawad should step up to this challenge, however i feel he should've been in the test team as permanent member since 2009 or at least since retirement of Misbah and Younis.

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    By now Fawad should have played at least 50 Tests and racked up thousands of runs.

    His treatment and lack of chances has been mystifying.



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    I donít know why everyone seems to be forgetting the first name on the sheet - Babar. So thatís the top 5 cemented. Keeper slots in. Shaheen, Abbas and Yasir are guaranteed, Naseem Shah is 99% going to play.

    Then itís just whether they chose Fawad Alam at 6 or move the keeper up and bring in Faheem Ashraf.

    I think theyíll play it safe and play Fawad given Pakistanís shakey batting but if both Fawad and Yasir have a poor test, I can see Fahim and Shadab coming in as a pair like previously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coy0607 View Post
    Pakistan's batting is too weak to go with just 5 batsmen. Abid and Shan are unproven, Azhar is a walking wicket, Babar is the only reliable batsmen. I can't see any scenario in which they drop a batsmen, especially under the guidance of someone as cautious as Misbah
    I have never understood the point of relying on the extra batsman when you're playing in a country like England. It shows a defensive mentality and that you are not interested in bowling the opposition out. If your Top 6 didn't do anything chances are the number 7 is not saving the game for you. If Pakistan want to win they have to play 5 bowlers because (a) you don't want guys like Shaheen and Naseem risking injury by over-bowling and (b) you want them to actually be potent which can only happen if they are well-rested between spells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoaibbtt View Post
    Well I remember watching a batting nets clip and Yasir was getting spanked by Fawad. I would've liked to have seen K. Bhattti but hey ho what you gonna do. I'm getting a funny feeling in my bones that Faheem will get a go ahead of Fawad which will be like i said criminal.

    Fawad from what i saw in the QeA trophy starts off with the awkward stance or at least i don't see it as much now but when he's growing in confidence he plays his shots with some determination like an ordinary left hander. I'm hoping that these last few years are Fawad's redemption song.
    Yasir is a proven performer in those conditions. He got hammered in that one match on an obscenely flat wicket but barring that he had an excellent series in 2016, especially considering England is not a welcome place for spinners in general. So him not playing is out of the question for now. If he does really badly or is just ineffective like he was in South Africa where he had so role to play, then Shadab will be given a go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedwoodOriginal View Post
    I have never understood the point of relying on the extra batsman when you're playing in a country like England. It shows a defensive mentality and that you are not interested in bowling the opposition out. If your Top 6 didn't do anything chances are the number 7 is not saving the game for you. If Pakistan want to win they have to play 5 bowlers because (a) you don't want guys like Shaheen and Naseem risking injury by over-bowling and (b) you want them to actually be potent which can only happen if they are well-rested between spells.
    That logic never made any sense to me. There are many scenarios in which a 7th batsman can take a team over the line. Why do people always say Ďif the top 6 didnít do anything, number 7 isnít saving the gameí. Didnít Faheem and Shadab do exactly that on the last tour in a couple of Tests?

    Yes theyíre all rounders but their place depends on batting depth because that extra batting coming in at 7 and 8 is useful. Ofcourse it then also allows 5 bowlers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forum363 View Post
    That logic never made any sense to me. There are many scenarios in which a 7th batsman can take a team over the line. Why do people always say Ďif the top 6 didnít do anything, number 7 isnít saving the gameí. Didnít Faheem and Shadab do exactly that on the last tour in a couple of Tests?

    Yes theyíre all rounders but their place depends on batting depth because that extra batting coming in at 7 and 8 is useful. Ofcourse it then also allows 5 bowlers.
    You're missing my point probably because I did not make my point all that well. I'm all for all-rounders. Faheem should definitely play. I'm talking about the extra batsman which means going with 4 bowlers, the wicket-keeper at 7 and the Top 6 packed with specialist batsmen. I think if you're relying on that No. 6 batsman to save the game for you then you made a big mistake because having an extra bowler who can bat a little is infinitely better than a batsman who can't bowl, in those conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedwoodOriginal View Post
    I have never understood the point of relying on the extra batsman when you're playing in a country like England. It shows a defensive mentality and that you are not interested in bowling the opposition out. If your Top 6 didn't do anything chances are the number 7 is not saving the game for you. If Pakistan want to win they have to play 5 bowlers because (a) you don't want guys like Shaheen and Naseem risking injury by over-bowling and (b) you want them to actually be potent which can only happen if they are well-rested between spells.
    When your top 6 consists of Azhar and Asad Shafiq, there is a high probability that an extra batsman will be beneficial.

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    That being said, I do want a 5th bowling option, which is why I hope Faheem Ashraf turns into Don Bradman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedwoodOriginal View Post
    You're missing my point probably because I did not make my point all that well. I'm all for all-rounders. Faheem should definitely play. I'm talking about the extra batsman which means going with 4 bowlers, the wicket-keeper at 7 and the Top 6 packed with specialist batsmen. I think if you're relying on that No. 6 batsman to save the game for you then you made a big mistake because having an extra bowler who can bat a little is infinitely better than a batsman who can't bowl, in those conditions.
    Okay fair enough, that makes sense.

    I agree on that behalf, particularly with the options we have at our disposal. The bowler who can bat will add more value to the team.

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    Let's not forget the ppl responsible for selecting the team (Misbah & Waqar) are the folks who decided to keep with Akmal Junior in a World Cup because of some absurd logic. Fawad should be grateful if he gets a game, if he does, he needs to make it sound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    When your top 6 consists of Azhar and Asad Shafiq, there is a high probability that an extra batsman will be beneficial.
    If you can't rely on your most experienced batsmen who can you rely on? Extra specialist batsman depletes the potency of the bowling attack. And you can't win without bowling the opposition out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedwoodOriginal View Post
    I have never understood the point of relying on the extra batsman when you're playing in a country like England. It shows a defensive mentality and that you are not interested in bowling the opposition out. If your Top 6 didn't do anything chances are the number 7 is not saving the game for you. If Pakistan want to win they have to play 5 bowlers because (a) you don't want guys like Shaheen and Naseem risking injury by over-bowling and (b) you want them to actually be potent which can only happen if they are well-rested between spells.
    I personally agree with you, but the Pakistan management doesn't. Misbah is as defensive a manager as there is in world cricket - the 4 bowler strategy really became prominent in his tenure as captain, before that Pak consistently used to have a good fifth bowling option.

    And now with the combination of England's strong bowling + Pak's pathetic batting - there is virtually no chance of anything less that 6 specialist batsmen.

    I don't think Pakistan are planing to win - at least in the Test series - goal for them is to avoid embarrassment in England

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamaan View Post
    Shadab and fahim more than capable with bat in tests play shadab fahim and 3 fast bowlers
    Fahim is neither capable with the bat nor the bowl - Pakistani's fans just wish that he was

    Shadab, perhaps, but I don't think they will start the series with him. I think Misbah will want to start with what is comfortable - 6 batsmen + 4 bowlers, rather than start experimenting. Maybe Shadab comes in after a defeat or two

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    Quote Originally Posted by coy0607 View Post
    Fahim is neither capable with the bat nor the bowl - Pakistani's fans just wish that he was

    Shadab, perhaps, but I don't think they will start the series with him. I think Misbah will want to start with what is comfortable - 6 batsmen + 4 bowlers, rather than start experimenting. Maybe Shadab comes in after a defeat or two
    Fahim in tests average in bowling is 26 batting average is 23 in tests that's more than okay.

    Shadab 38 with the ball and 34 with the bat

    I fink so azwell that he will pick 6 and 4

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    That being said, I do want a 5th bowling option, which is why I hope Faheem Ashraf turns into Don Bradman.
    He will stil do decent job I belive he had 2 half centuries in england might be wrong thou


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    Quote Originally Posted by shamaan View Post
    He will stil do decent job I belive he had 2 half centuries in england might be wrong thou
    Yea once against Bangladesh in a warm up match during CT17 other than that he's an absolute flop batsman. Too many chances if you ask me. Nope i think the latter is best go in with your batsman and 4 frontline bowlers in Yasir, Shaheen, Naseem and Abbas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoaibbtt View Post
    Yea once against Bangladesh in a warm up match during CT17 other than that he's an absolute flop batsman. Too many chances if you ask me. Nope i think the latter is best go in with your batsman and 4 frontline bowlers in Yasir, Shaheen, Naseem and Abbas
    Heís talking about the Test innings. Saved Pakistan a couple of times with some useful runs down the order.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forum363 View Post
    He’s talking about the Test innings. Saved Pakistan a couple of times with some useful runs down the order.
    Honestly he's a very poor man's Hardik Pandaya. I wanted to like him but honestly he just disappoints with the bat, does a bit of bashing and then out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoaibbtt View Post
    Yea once against Bangladesh in a warm up match during CT17 other than that he's an absolute flop batsman. Too many chances if you ask me. Nope i think the latter is best go in with your batsman and 4 frontline bowlers in Yasir, Shaheen, Naseem and Abbas
    4 man attack that means naseem needs to bowl long spells and if england do get 400 pluss he will proberly bowl atleast 20 overs pakistan draw against England when they had 5 man attack can only win the tests having positive mindset am sure he saves pakistan a few times with the bowl and with the bat

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamaan View Post
    4 man attack that means naseem needs to bowl long spells and if england do get 400 pluss he will proberly bowl atleast 20 overs pakistan draw against England when they had 5 man attack can only win the tests having positive mindset am sure he saves pakistan a few times with the bowl and with the bat
    Naseem and Shaheen bowling long spells doesn't phase me, i mean for God's sake these guys are young you should be able to bowl. I just feel that Fawad will be that man left behind and to be honest have to say i feel sad for such a good human being with a lot of potential being wasted.

    However, I am going to reserve any judgement just yet until we see how WI-Eng plays out and we see what the conditions are like.

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    To be honest, Fawad has played enough Domestic cricket to get some runs under his belt in England. At this age and experience he should definitely outperform Azhar and Asad combined.

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    Fawad definitely deserves a chance now. I think he can fit in at 5 and Shafiq can stay at 6, his best position.

    My playing XI would be

    1. Shan Masood
    2. Abid Ali
    3. Azhar Ali (C)
    4. Babar Azam
    5. Fawad Alam
    6. Asad Shafiq
    7. Mohammed Rizwan (WK)
    8. Yasir Shah
    9. Mohammed Abbas
    10. Shaheen Shah
    11. Naseem Shah

    My only concern is the 5th bowling option, perhaps Faheem ashraf will play but that means Fawad misses out again which will
    be cruel. Maybe theyíll get Shan to bowl some medium pacers and Azhar can roll his arm over with some leg spinners. But Iím not sure how effective theyíll be. A good quality allrounder (pace) is definitely missing in Pakistan.

    Also, Iíve heard Abid Ali can Wicketkeep. It might be worth it for the balance of the side if they drop Rizwan for Faheem for the 5th bowling option. Donít think there will be much difference between their batting but bowling will be stronger which is already inexperienced and lacking a 5th bowler. Then again I havenít really seen Abid wicketkeep so it might be a big ask considering itís his first overseas tour so it might be too much pressure on him.

    Fawad definitely deserves a go tho, heís been performing on the sidelines for about a decade and keeps getting ignored. I hope they donít discard him again after a few games like they did after his 100 vs Sri Lanka in the Asia cup final 2014.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manzy2599 View Post
    Fawad definitely deserves a chance now. I think he can fit in at 5 and Shafiq can stay at 6, his best position.

    My playing XI would be

    1. Shan Masood
    2. Abid Ali
    3. Azhar Ali (C)
    4. Babar Azam
    5. Fawad Alam
    6. Asad Shafiq
    7. Mohammed Rizwan (WK)
    8. Yasir Shah
    9. Mohammed Abbas
    10. Shaheen Shah
    11. Naseem Shah

    My only concern is the 5th bowling option, perhaps Faheem ashraf will play but that means Fawad misses out again which will
    be cruel. Maybe theyíll get Shan to bowl some medium pacers and Azhar can roll his arm over with some leg spinners. But Iím not sure how effective theyíll be. A good quality allrounder (pace) is definitely missing in Pakistan.

    Also, Iíve heard Abid Ali can Wicketkeep. It might be worth it for the balance of the side if they drop Rizwan for Faheem for the 5th bowling option. Donít think there will be much difference between their batting but bowling will be stronger which is already inexperienced and lacking a 5th bowler. Then again I havenít really seen Abid wicketkeep so it might be a big ask considering itís his first overseas tour so it might be too much pressure on him.

    Fawad definitely deserves a go tho, heís been performing on the sidelines for about a decade and keeps getting ignored. I hope they donít discard him again after a few games like they did after his 100 vs Sri Lanka in the Asia cup final 2014.
    To be honest thatís the most likely test line up. Everyone in my eyes deserves a chance, I wouldnít have people rush to conclusions, all you can go by is what you can see and then itís in Allahís hands. In my view Fawad looked good in the clips I saw for the practise match, Abid on the other hand I heard and saw looked a bit rusty same goes for Yasir.

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    Fawad Alam vs Anderson with Fawad's stance - how will it go down? Should be good soundbites from TV comms for sure.


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