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    He does remind me a lot of Darren Gough in his bowling style and that's not a bad thing at all.

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    I’m happy to see his pace is up as well.

    Looks like he is suited to white ball cricket, seems to be more pumped for this format

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    Nice to see him generating some significant outswing in that video.


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    He lacks stamina.

    Before his debut for Pakistan the longest spell he had ever bowled at a competitive level was 7 overs

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedwoodOriginal View Post
    LOL if IPL really was the gold standard of T20 cricket than Shaun Marsh would still be in the Australian T20 side and Amit Mishra would be a T20 legend playing every T20 for India.
    Amit mishra did well in the limited opportunities he got in the white ball matches.

    But he was short changed for years in favour of a declining Bhajji.

    When Bhajji was finally discarded a young Ashwin was preferred by Dhoni.

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    Bowling 140 plus against avg domestic guys or in avg leagues will always make any bowler look good.

    But Shah has age on his side so we should reserve the judgement on him.

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    Heís trimmed down. Makes a big difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Bowling 140 plus against avg domestic guys or in avg leagues will always make any bowler look good.

    But Shah has age on his side so we should reserve the judgement on him.
    He was getting smashed around in PSL and the National T20 last year

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Bowling 140 plus against avg domestic guys or in avg leagues will always make any bowler look good.

    But Shah has age on his side so we should reserve the judgement on him.
    He was bowling against Rizwan and Fakhar, both are proven at international level.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Finisher View Post
    He was getting smashed around in PSL and the National T20 last year
    Yeah what a shock to see an extremely young player with few domestic games under his belt struggling in T20 matches...

    Should be written off completely as a result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Monetarist View Post
    Seems in good rhythm:

    first time I have seen hockey goalkeeper behind the stumps, well padded!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nasty Naz View Post
    Yeah what a shock to see an extremely young player with few domestic games under his belt struggling in T20 matches...

    Should be written off completely as a result.
    Had a bad day hun? Naseem was getting smashed around, he has shown improvement in his T20 bowling since CPL and Ian Ponts appointment...

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    Still donít see anything special about him. Heís definitely not becoming our next Umar Gul.

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    Carrying on with his good form



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    Naseem Shah at 130-135 KPH is useless. Naseem Shah bowling at 140-150 KPH has the makings of a very good bowler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usman Chadda View Post
    Naseem Shah at 130-135 KPH is useless. Naseem Shah bowling at 140-150 KPH has the makings of a very good bowler.
    Naseem Shah without Waqar Younis affect should be a good bowler

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    Don't know where Mamoon is coming from regarding poor domestic batters, he's got the international players like Fakhar Zaman, Imam ul Haq out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finisher View Post
    Had a bad day hun? Naseem was getting smashed around, he has shown improvement in his T20 bowling since CPL and Ian Ponts appointment...
    I see sarcasm isn't your strong suit.

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    Naseem has potential, he has good speed and needs to develop reverse swing at pace, good targetting of bouncers and yorkers... he is wayward currently, needs s good coach, I thought Waqar would improve him but it hasnt happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cricketrenew View Post
    Naseem has potential, he has good speed and needs to develop reverse swing at pace, good targetting of bouncers and yorkers... he is wayward currently, needs s good coach, I thought Waqar would improve him but it hasnt happened.
    Tbh a good captain is more important than the coach. Naseem thoroughly enjoyed the captaincy of Bravo


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    I like Naseem but his action gives me anxiety. He uses his back a lot. I hope PCB looks after him well. Young fast bowlers are prone to stress fractures.

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    Lol, Pakistan fans are so easily charmed. A few good performances in useless T20 cricket matches and they think he's good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyWarsFan View Post
    Lol, Pakistan fans are so easily charmed. A few good performances in useless T20 cricket matches and they think he's good?
    But he is good though, just wasn’t performing well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HappyWarsFan View Post
    Lol, Pakistan fans are so easily charmed. A few good performances in useless T20 cricket matches and they think he's good?
    Its not about judging him to be good or bad but, whats on display in whiteball cricket where he is completely new. Whats good is to see a young pacer working on his game (Things that he has improved have been discussed a few times). A teenage or early 20s aged player doesnt remain constant for 10-15 years from there. Naturally there will be improvements, deteriorations, ups and downs.

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    He has been the most impressive on show in this tournament so far.

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    Good that naseem has found confidence and form. Now he has to play domestic for a while and work on his test bowling (if that is the direction he wants to have his career). Else he can keep plying white ball cricket and keep improving in this format and get into the Pak XI.

    On another note, if he continues to impress in the ongoing National T20, can he force his way into the World cup T20 squad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharmaji View Post
    Good that naseem has found confidence and form. Now he has to play domestic for a while and work on his test bowling (if that is the direction he wants to have his career). Else he can keep plying white ball cricket and keep improving in this format and get into the Pak XI.

    On another note, if he continues to impress in the ongoing National T20, can he force his way into the World cup T20 squad?
    He needs a serious 4/5 wicket haul against central Punjab I recon. If he can produce something special, who knows?

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    Yeah, it would be interesting.

    He could compete with Haris Rauf, M Wasim Jr, and S. Dahani for the third pacer's role (Shaheen, Hasan being the main seamers).



    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    He needs a serious 4/5 wicket haul against central Punjab I recon. If he can produce something special, who knows?

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    I don't understand which white ball team is which.

    Is he under Ian Pont now, or have I got the wrong team?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    I don't understand which white ball team is which.

    Is he under Ian Pont now, or have I got the wrong team?
    He is under Pont who is the bowling consultant as well as assistant coach Aizaz Cheema who are associated with Southern Punjabís team. Shahid Anwar is the head coach of SP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    I don't understand which white ball team is which.

    Is he under Ian Pont now, or have I got the wrong team?
    Yes, you are right. Ian Pont is with Southern Punjab, Naseem's team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharmaji View Post
    Good that naseem has found confidence and form. Now he has to play domestic for a while and work on his test bowling (if that is the direction he wants to have his career). Else he can keep plying white ball cricket and keep improving in this format and get into the Pak XI.

    On another note, if he continues to impress in the ongoing National T20, can he force his way into the World cup T20 squad?
    I hope not. He has to play full domestic season and get his bowling back on track. That will do his confidence a world of good. You can see brilliance in his bowling but he needs to hit lines consistently. It's no surprise he hasn't managed that yet, considering how little FC cricket he has played. Having Waqar as the bowling coach doesn't help either.

    So getting maximum number of FC bowling hours should be the priority.

    I don't think he gets into the team anyhow with Shaheen, Hasan, Hasnain ahead of him. Rauf too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arsal_AK View Post
    I hope not. He has to play full domestic season and get his bowling back on track. That will do his confidence a world of good. You can see brilliance in his bowling but he needs to hit lines consistently. It's no surprise he hasn't managed that yet, considering how little FC cricket he has played. Having Waqar as the bowling coach doesn't help either.

    So getting maximum number of FC bowling hours should be the priority.

    I don't think he gets into the team anyhow with Shaheen, Hasan, Hasnain ahead of him. Rauf too.
    Naseem has more potential as a Test bowler than as a white ball bowler, because he bowls outswing and you get slip fielders in Tests.

    Ian Pont should make a huge difference. He understands the mechanics and geometry of bowling, in terms of both movement and pace. Naseem has probably never previously had a coach who has that knowledge - Waqar Younis wouldnít have the slightest clue.

    Who else is Pont coaching in Pakistan?

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    The other bowlers whom Iíd really like Ian Pont to work with are:

    Faheem Ashraf
    Amad Butt
    Haris Rauf
    Sameen Gul

    Combine those four with Naseem Shah and Shaheen Shah Afridi and you have all the quick bowlers you need.

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    I think Ian pont is currently consulting them remotely from UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedwoodOriginal View Post
    It's kinda shocking the kind of expectations our fans have from our fast-bowlers. Here is a kid who debuted in Australia: a literal graveyard for Pakistani fast-bowlers and a place that recently destroyed the test careers of other young bowlers like Mason Crane and Tom Curran. Not only did he not let that debut not define him but he came back to take a hat-trick in just his 4th or 5th test match.

    But people here are still expecting him to be the second coming of Shane Bond in his third year playing professional cricket.

    For gods sake, take a second and think about how stupid and ridiculous you sound with your unrealistic expectations. How many teams in the world throw their young teenage fast-bowlers on the field against Australia on their test debut?

    Heck, how many teenage fast-bowlers have England, Australia, India, New Zealand, South Africa debuted in the last few years? How many (if any at all) of them took a hat-trick and a five wicket haul in their first few matches? How many of them can dial it up to 140+ consistently while being able to swing it?

    Stop having unrealistic expectations from our young players...especially our young fast-bowlers. Give them the chance to develop and grow. Its international cricket, not a cakewalk.

    And if you want to start comparing Naseem to others look at the people from his age-group. Where are Nagarkoti, Mavi, LLoyd Pope, Mnyaka, Madushaka, Tyagi? Because I don't even see them anywhere close to playing international cricket for their respective countries.
    If Tyagi was Pakistani, then he'd have already debuted for the national team irrespective of the fact that whether he was ready or not. Thankfully the Indian NT Selectors isn't full of morons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unleashed View Post
    If Tyagi was Pakistani, then he'd have already debuted for the national team irrespective of the fact that whether he was ready or not. Thankfully the Indian NT Selectors isn't full of morons.
    Absolutely. On one hand, its impossible not to see the positive side of it, a young quick in all his youth and glory bowling 140kph thunderbolts. On the other hand, a couple of bad days on the field can destroy that player's confidence for years to come. And send his career back years. On top of that, Pakistani fans and media with their expectations and vitriol only add to the pressure which can be alot for someone who has just broken onto the scene.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    The other bowlers whom Iíd really like Ian Pont to work with are:

    Faheem Ashraf
    Amad Butt
    Haris Rauf
    Sameen Gul

    Combine those four with Naseem Shah and Shaheen Shah Afridi and you have all the quick bowlers you need.
    I'd like to see him with Ehsan Adil too. I still think he could offer a few years in SENA conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedwoodOriginal View Post
    Absolutely. On one hand, its impossible not to see the positive side of it, a young quick in all his youth and glory bowling 140kph thunderbolts. On the other hand, a couple of bad days on the field can destroy that player's confidence for years to come. And send his career back years. On top of that, Pakistani fans and media with their expectations and vitriol only add to the pressure which can be alot for someone who has just broken onto the scene.
    Sorry but I genuinely don't see any positive in fast tracking a youngster's career. He is obviously talented but for a pacer, his fitness wasn't right for an international cricketer. He's rebuilding his career in a right way now. Bowling in domestic cricket and slowly building his confidence back should be the way to go.

    Anyways Pakistan test team right now has Hasan Ali, Afridi and Abbas so there's no immediate need of getting back Naseem. I always feel that pace bowlers atleast should spend 2-3 years in domestic first to build their match fitness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angrypathan View Post
    I'd like to see him with Ehsan Adil too. I still think he could offer a few years in SENA conditions.
    I flirted with his name too, but I think it's too late now.

    To me, there are two types of fast bowler you need a specialist coach to work with.

    One type is your frontline bowlers, who bat down at Numbers 9, 10 and 11. You can pick 3 of them in SENA and 2 in Asia.

    The second type is all-rounders who bowl fast or fast-medium. These have to be guys good enough with the bat to bat at Numbers 7 or 8 in Test matches anywhere. You need to pick at least one of them in every SENA Test - this is the role that Abdul Razzaq and Azhar Mahmood played, and it hurt Pakistan badly that for years they backed the wrong one with the red ball, leading to Razzaq being wrongly picked from 2000-2007 even though his bowling was dreadful.

    SPECIALIST BOWLERS for Pont to work with:
    Sameen Gul (instead of Ehsan Adil)
    Naseem Shah
    Haris Rauf
    Shaheen Shah Afridi

    The aim is to turn them into bowlers capable of bowling quickly and with late movement.

    ALL-ROUNDERS for Pont to work with
    Amad Butt
    Faheem Ashraf
    Hasan Ali - needs to improve his batting too

    The aim here is to maximise their pace and movement and to make them not into world-beaters, but into reasonably competent guys to bowl 6 overs in every 2 hour session to keep Shaheen, Naseem and Rauf or Sameen able to bowl shorter, faster spells.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unleashed View Post
    Sorry but I genuinely don't see any positive in fast tracking a youngster's career. He is obviously talented but for a pacer, his fitness wasn't right for an international cricketer. He's rebuilding his career in a right way now. Bowling in domestic cricket and slowly building his confidence back should be the way to go.

    Anyways Pakistan test team right now has Hasan Ali, Afridi and Abbas so there's no immediate need of getting back Naseem. I always feel that pace bowlers atleast should spend 2-3 years in domestic first to build their match fitness.
    Oh no I agree with you. I meant purely from point of view where you forget everything and focus on the moment. Where you're seeing this young talent just in his element, charging in and bowling a great 2-3 over spell that has pace, bounce, swing and all the glimpses of a potential future star. It just makes for a captivating watch.

    But obviously it goes without saying that once that 2-3 over spell ends and reality sets in you basically realize that you have a raw, young fast-bowler who despite his talent is too young and too inexperienced to bowl multiple successful spells throughout the day against a international side. Most of all, its an injustice to the young player himself who is thrust into that position to begin. But Pakistani selectors think they'll somehow unearth the next Wasim Akram by doing this. Even Wasim Akram took years to become Wasim Akram.

    Naseem is still viewed as a back-up option. Because that's just how clueless and visionless Pakistan selectors are. Haris Rauf was in the test squad after 3 FC matches. If they have any sense they will keep Naseem and Rauf away from the test team until they atleast have credible FC experience. Besides those three Pakistan always have Faheem Ashraf to fall back on as the extra pacer in foreign conditions. And if someone gets injured Waqas Maqsood can be brought in as a temporary replacement.
    Last edited by RedwoodOriginal; 27th September 2021 at 14:34.

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    I agree with you. I hope Naseem does too. It's just the opportunities for earning money through white ball cricket (including the T20 leagues) are more than those in the red ball cricket, I think. Naseem would need a good mentor to help him get his priorities right.


    Quote Originally Posted by Arsal_AK View Post
    I hope not. He has to play full domestic season and get his bowling back on track. That will do his confidence a world of good. You can see brilliance in his bowling but he needs to hit lines consistently. It's no surprise he hasn't managed that yet, considering how little FC cricket he has played. Having Waqar as the bowling coach doesn't help either.

    So getting maximum number of FC bowling hours should be the priority.

    I don't think he gets into the team anyhow with Shaheen, Hasan, Hasnain ahead of him. Rauf too.

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    Need to play a full season of domestic

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    3 matches so far at the National T20 Cup

    Overs 11
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    Runs conceded 65
    Economy rate of 5.90

    Bowled really well and with confidence which is good to see.



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    Naseem Shah broke the 150 kph mark in the match against Balochistan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Monetarist View Post
    Naseem Shah broke the 150 kph mark in the match against Balochistan.

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    I watch PSL quite closely and I think the speed guns are reasonably accurate. No bowler is clocking more than what they usually do.

    Anrich Nortje is the fastest bowler in the world right now because he can bowl 4-5 deliveries at 150 in one over. Naseem should try this too once he feels comfortable with his line and length

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedwoodOriginal View Post
    It's kinda shocking the kind of expectations our fans have from our fast-bowlers. Here is a kid who debuted in Australia: a literal graveyard for Pakistani fast-bowlers and a place that recently destroyed the test careers of other young bowlers like Mason Crane and Tom Curran. Not only did he not let that debut not define him but he came back to take a hat-trick in just his 4th or 5th test match.

    But people here are still expecting him to be the second coming of Shane Bond in his third year playing professional cricket.

    For gods sake, take a second and think about how stupid and ridiculous you sound with your unrealistic expectations. How many teams in the world throw their young teenage fast-bowlers on the field against Australia on their test debut?

    Heck, how many teenage fast-bowlers have England, Australia, India, New Zealand, South Africa debuted in the last few years? How many (if any at all) of them took a hat-trick and a five wicket haul in their first few matches? How many of them can dial it up to 140+ consistently while being able to swing it?

    Stop having unrealistic expectations from our young players...especially our young fast-bowlers. Give them the chance to develop and grow. Its international cricket, not a cakewalk.

    And if you want to start comparing Naseem to others look at the people from his age-group. Where are Nagarkoti, Mavi, LLoyd Pope, Mnyaka, Madushaka, Tyagi? Because I don't even see them anywhere close to playing international cricket for their respective countries.
    Precisely. Naseem was extremely undercooked and raw when he was pushed for International debut. The lack of pace bowling resources in Pakistan was the reason for this. Poor Naseem became a scapegoat in that endeavour of the administration to paper over this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Monetarist View Post
    Naseem Shah broke the 150 kph mark in the match against Balochistan.

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    The bigger worry for Naseem remains the lack of consistent movement. His seam isnt great but its not terrible either but he gets little movement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junaids View Post
    I flirted with his name too, but I think it's too late now.

    To me, there are two types of fast bowler you need a specialist coach to work with.

    One type is your frontline bowlers, who bat down at Numbers 9, 10 and 11. You can pick 3 of them in SENA and 2 in Asia.

    The second type is all-rounders who bowl fast or fast-medium. These have to be guys good enough with the bat to bat at Numbers 7 or 8 in Test matches anywhere. You need to pick at least one of them in every SENA Test - this is the role that Abdul Razzaq and Azhar Mahmood played, and it hurt Pakistan badly that for years they backed the wrong one with the red ball, leading to Razzaq being wrongly picked from 2000-2007 even though his bowling was dreadful.

    SPECIALIST BOWLERS for Pont to work with:
    Sameen Gul (instead of Ehsan Adil)
    Naseem Shah
    Haris Rauf
    Shaheen Shah Afridi

    The aim is to turn them into bowlers capable of bowling quickly and with late movement.

    ALL-ROUNDERS for Pont to work with
    Amad Butt
    Faheem Ashraf
    Hasan Ali - needs to improve his batting too

    The aim here is to maximise their pace and movement and to make them not into world-beaters, but into reasonably competent guys to bowl 6 overs in every 2 hour session to keep Shaheen, Naseem and Rauf or Sameen able to bowl shorter, faster spells.
    What about Hussain Talat, he is around the same pace as Faheem Ashraf. In the CP v KP match be bowled a couple of overs regularly around 135 and the fastest that I seen was 138

    Perfect replacement for Faheem in one dayers

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    Fast bowler
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    talks about his cricketing journey, inspiration, dreams and ambitions. The youngster loves to maintain an aggressive attitude on the field especially with the ball in his hand.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OMB View Post
    Fast bowler
    @iNaseemShah
    talks about his cricketing journey, inspiration, dreams and ambitions. The youngster loves to maintain an aggressive attitude on the field especially with the ball in his hand.

    Shane Warne or Shane Bond?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finisher View Post
    What about Hussain Talat, he is around the same pace as Faheem Ashraf. In the CP v KP match be bowled a couple of overs regularly around 135 and the fastest that I seen was 138

    Perfect replacement for Faheem in one dayers
    I have been lurking here for few years and only recently i came to know Hussain Talat is a batting allrounder. He is definitely a better batsman than Faheem. Bowling wise he is average but Faheem is no Steyn either.

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    If Naseem wasnít ready for all those overseas tours, he should have kept his head and down stayed quiet instead of trash-talking and making big statements.

    I like to see fear in batsmenís eyes, English batsmen donít know me yet but they will after the series etc.

    These statements look ridiculous when you produce embarrassing figures like he has in Australia, England and New Zealand.

    When you talk big and then fail to deliver, you will be called out. Problem with Naseem is that he bought his own hype.

    Hopefully this reality check and this well-deserved humiliation has humbled him. At 22-23, he still has enough time to turn things around. I doubt it though.

    People say it is good to have confidence and character. The issue is that there is a fine line between confidence and overconfidence / arrogance, and he smashed that line just like Zack Crawley smashed him.

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    unless he can bowl 90+ consistently, and touch a few up in mid 90s he will struggle. his seam position is great but as others have said, he gets surprisingly little movement.

    i think he should toil in domestic 4 days, thatll show how strong he really is. if he can average mid 20s then bring him back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    If Naseem wasnít ready for all those overseas tours, he should have kept his head and down stayed quiet instead of trash-talking and making big statements.

    I like to see fear in batsmenís eyes, English batsmen donít know me yet but they will after the series etc.

    These statements look ridiculous when you produce embarrassing figures like he has in Australia, England and New Zealand.

    When you talk big and then fail to deliver, you will be called out. Problem with Naseem is that he bought his own hype.

    Hopefully this reality check and this well-deserved humiliation has humbled him. At 22-23, he still has enough time to turn things around. I doubt it though.

    People say it is good to have confidence and character. The issue is that there is a fine line between confidence and overconfidence / arrogance, and he smashed that line just like Zack Crawley smashed him.
    Well they are hyped up and so they trash talk.

    But those days of coming to a match as a rookie and blasting the players out are long over.

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    Naseem Shah under Pakistani captain and Naseem Shah under non Pakistani captain are 2 different players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    If Naseem wasnít ready for all those overseas tours, he should have kept his head and down stayed quiet instead of trash-talking and making big statements.

    I like to see fear in batsmenís eyes, English batsmen donít know me yet but they will after the series etc.

    These statements look ridiculous when you produce embarrassing figures like he has in Australia, England and New Zealand.

    When you talk big and then fail to deliver, you will be called out. Problem with Naseem is that he bought his own hype.

    Hopefully this reality check and this well-deserved humiliation has humbled him. At 22-23, he still has enough time to turn things around. I doubt it though.

    People say it is good to have confidence and character. The issue is that there is a fine line between confidence and overconfidence / arrogance, and he smashed that line just like Zack Crawley smashed him.
    How do you expect a 22 year old whose brain is probably 16 year old to act mature like a 28 year old?

    I would like to see him make an impact in domestic 3-4 day games against good teams.

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    Bowled 3 top class overs yesterday, and in the 4th got hammered.

    Shows exactly that he has so much talent but at the same time so raw.

    Needs someone like a shane bond or asif to take him under his wing and teach him how to read the batsman, or set them up.

    Gets easily riled up, which is also a BIG negative in T20s. In tests you can channel anger, but in Limited overs you need to be cool and calm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sycamore View Post

    Needs someone like a shane bond or asif to take him under his wing and teach him how to read the batsman, or set them up.

    .
    Asif? that convicted man has issues with presence of Pathan bowlers like Naseem Shah in the team. [

    People like him should not be allowed any where near coaching.
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    I always thought he would be the next Waqar Younis. Quite an irony that Waqar himself didn't let that happen.

    Anyway, Naseem seems to have understood his flaws and worked on them; I can see a bright future ahead for him he continues to work hard and improve his skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharmaji View Post
    I always thought he would be the next Waqar Younis. Quite an irony that Waqar himself didn't let that happen.

    Anyway, Naseem seems to have understood his flaws and worked on them; I can see a bright future ahead for him he continues to work hard and improve his skills.
    To be the next Waqar, he would need to bowl with heavily tampered balls. Waqar is the biggest beneficiary of ball-tampering in history. He would have been just an ordinary bowler today.

    Though in spite of being massively overrated and nowhere near Wasim and Imran, he was still infinitely more talented than Naseem Shah.

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    You're probably right about Waqar, but it could also be that the rules on ball-tampering were not clear back then and Waqar just exploited the loophole better than others.

    Coming to Naseem, I like his action, pace and ability to bowl out swingers. But yes, he is nowhere close to the greats like W,W in setting up the batsmen, bowl consistent line and length in difficult bowling conditions but devastating spells in supportive conditions.

    He is a raw talent and a work in progress, haven't done justice to the hype as you rightly pointed out. Let's see if he can exceed our expectations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    To be the next Waqar, he would need to bowl with heavily tampered balls. Waqar is the biggest beneficiary of ball-tampering in history. He would have been just an ordinary bowler today.

    Though in spite of being massively overrated and nowhere near Wasim and Imran, he was still infinitely more talented than Naseem Shah.

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    Dismissed Shehzad:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Monetarist View Post
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    Brilliant first over

    He got the outside edge of Babar twice and the ball fell just short of 1st slip both times

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    The CPL stint has done wonders for him.

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    he has this issue of looking good for a bit, then really losing his way if hes attacked. he shoulders sag, he looks confused and frustrated. bravo helped support him in cpl but he wont get captains like that every team he plays for. needs to be a mentally stronger if he wants to succeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Monetarist View Post
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    Thatís really good delivery. Rushed Shehzad on an incoming delivery which really is a rare feat since Ahmad is one of the best in the world for the incoming deliveries

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    Super delivery:


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    Best new ball bowler in the Pakistan cup

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    He was rushed into the national team too early.Playing him against Australia and England in their home grounds was a big mistake.He should play a full season of domestic cricket.If he performs well then he will be a contender for selection.People shouldnít write him off.Pakistan has several young faster bowlers now but all of them need to develop.

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    He has been bowling beautifully with the new ball.

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    His rythem is much improved. He is using his wrist to perfectly release the ball to generate the new ball swing he is getting. Confidence by Bravo and getting used to a modified bowling action after injury is key

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    Still hoping for Naseem to get a 2-3 wicket burst with the new ball like Shaheen would. He’s been bowling well but isn’t picking up enough wickets in his spells

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Still hoping for Naseem to get a 2-3 wicket burst with the new ball like Shaheen would. He’s been bowling well but isn’t picking up enough wickets in his spells
    And therein lies the issue


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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post

    Let me guess,

    Leicestershire
    Northamptonshire
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    Any one of these counties

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    3/27 for Pakistan Shaheens

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    Took 5/53 as Shaheens bowled out SL A for 141



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    4 wickets against Sri Lanka A today.

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    Naseem Shah returned with figures of 7-1-25-4 and Khurram finished the day at 7-3-10-3 as only Suminda Lakshan (29) and Nipun Dananjaya (17) only managed to reach the double figures.

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