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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    I swear that’s about £90K
    No, it isn't.

    That's about $544k, which is around 424k pounds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fantasy View Post
    That is true and I agree that in South Asia boards don’t know how to control the piracy and everything related. BCCI has done that effectively but I am talking about fans’ perspective which I want to see. I want to see last night’s fabulous save by Pooran. I want to chime on old footage between India and Pakistan on YT. And I think there will be number of people who would like to see that but aren’t allowed.

    You can’t convince me that they can’t do anything on the retirement of MSD. I saw nothing from official accounts. They could’ve done so much. They have the worst social media presence than PCB and that tells you something. BCCI gets away with doing nothing for the promotion of the game on social media but they have a fabulous broadcaster who are not just broadcasting matches for them but the elevation of players’ profile and effectively being PR for BCCI.
    Bcci and ipl sites


    These two have everything that a true Indian Fan wants to see.

    Domestic match highlights of Ranji to see any upcoming talent on HD plus international matches coverage. Don’t need any other drama as interest in cricket is so huge bcci don’t need to market it much
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    I am very confused right now. Does that mean national 20 today WONT be on ptv sports today??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omer2002 View Post
    I am very confused right now. Does that mean national 20 today WONT be on ptv sports today??
    That article is concerning production rights, not broadcasting rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    That article is concerning production rights, not broadcasting rights.
    Thanks Markhor that makes sense as PTV sports have been advertising it on daily basis

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    LAHORE: The Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) will be worse off by nearly PKR 90 million as a result of the withdrawal of state broadcaster PTV (Pakistan Television) from bidding for the rights of a production deal for the series against Zimbabwe and domestic cricket. A consortium led by UAE-based Tower Sports and Indian production company SportzWorkz ultimately won the rights for production. The winning bid was worth PKR 359 million – that is, how much it will cost the PCB to outsource production of those matches. PTV’s bid, made alongside another Dubai-based production firm IPG, came in at PKR 270 million and it would’ve been the lowest had the broadcaster not pulled out.

    A PTV official said a lack of time in the bidding process meant “procedural requirements” could not be completed. “There was acute paucity of the time needed to complete the procedural requirements which wasn’t really possible leading to their withdrawal.” PTV’s withdrawal did come as a surprise given that discussions between the broadcaster and board had been advanced, and a deal all but finalised. In one email exchange, PTV had revised their bid figure to include the cost of commentators such as Ramiz Raja, Wasim Akram and Bazid Khan for the tournament. That took the value to PKR 270,581,367. The next day, however, PTV pulled out forcing PCB to go to the second lowest bid.

    “The PTV withdrew their offer on 23 September 2020 prior to a decision on the final evaluation of their offer or those of the parties who had submitted proposals under the earlier initiated process,” a board spokesman said. “With the first match scheduled to air on 30th September 2020, PCB awarded the Production Rights to the lowest bidding party, i.e. TowerSports/Sportsworkz. PTV partnered with IPG to submit a technical and financial offer for this coverage. PCB evaluated PTV’s bid in good faith in order to ensure that the offer was technically compliant as per PCB’s requirements.”

    The rights include 33 games in the National T20 Cup starting from September 30, 11 matches of the Quaid-e-Azam Trophy and a series of three ODIs and T20Is against Zimbabwe in Multan and Rawalpindi. The PCB has signed a three-year broadcast deal with PTV to broadcast all Pakistan’s home bilateral commitments as well as all domestic cricket. PTV Sports is one of only a handful of sports broadcasters in Pakistan, although its production capacity has long been in need of an upgrade. As a result, the broadcaster had teamed up with IPG to ensure that technical benchmarks of the bid were fulfilled.


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    This is NOT a 200 million deal. LMAO!

    This is an arrangement agreed upon between two parties where PCB hopes/speculates/expects to earn that much. A 200 million USD deal would mean one party has committed that amount to be paid within a specific time period. No such thing is at play here.

    PCB's inability to thrash out a firm financial commitment in fact showcases how little the broadcasters believe in its product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMSS View Post
    This is NOT a 200 million deal. LMAO!

    This is an arrangement agreed upon between two parties where PCB hopes/speculates/expects to earn that much. A 200 million USD deal would mean one party has committed that amount to be paid within a specific time period. No such thing is at play here.

    PCB's inability to thrash out a firm financial commitment in fact showcases how little the broadcasters believe in its product.
    I think the Title clearly mentions the word 'EXPECT'

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    Quote Originally Posted by AMSS View Post
    This is NOT a 200 million deal. LMAO!

    This is an arrangement agreed upon between two parties where PCB hopes/speculates/expects to earn that much. A 200 million USD deal would mean one party has committed that amount to be paid within a specific time period. No such thing is at play here.

    PCB's inability to thrash out a firm financial commitment in fact showcases how little the broadcasters believe in its product.
    Alright let’s get to the facts now. Enough of these claims. What are the players in Pakistan market who will compete with each other? We will discuss the lack of complete knowledge of the broadcasting market from previous regimes and why they hadn’t got an idea of how to run a governing body professionally and continuing to improve and not be happy with status quo.This applies to the previous governments as well.

    First things first who are the players and how would you ensure maximum revenue generation through this most important avenue?

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    PCB is hitting 550k views per match on their Youtube videos alone. Kudos to the PCB marketing team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    PCB is hitting 550k views per match on their Youtube videos alone. Kudos to the PCB marketing team.
    This has to be monetized, ask fans to pay a one time subscription fee on a tournament to tournament basis, series to series basis in exchange for watching matches via online streaming in Pakistan and Worldwide

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    This has to be monetized, ask fans to pay a one time subscription fee on a tournament to tournament basis, series to series basis in exchange for watching matches via online streaming in Pakistan and Worldwide
    Can easily be sold to Willow etc

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    They need to improve the quality of the stream before having the gall to start charging people for it. It's pathetic in this day and age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Monetarist View Post
    They need to improve the quality of the stream before having the gall to start charging people for it. It's pathetic in this day and age.
    Advertising, advertising, advertising. There is more money in ads and broadcast deals than anything else. Pakistanis can’t pay much upfront anyways and are very stingy when it comes to subscriptions. But ads? There is a fortune waiting in the wings.

    Yes they do need to improve the stream quality, camerawork, and graphics/scorecards. But 550k people don’t care about that, and ads will change this completely. PCB is on the verge of making insane amounts of money in the next 10 years. They just need a proper business and sales team with some esteemed marketing managers.

    Cricket marketing is so valuable that all the big singers had a behind the scenes war trying to make the “definitive” PSL music video after the official anthem Tayyar Hain flopped, and all the new ones made millions of views each between Strings, Ali Zafar, etc.

    Khel Ja Dil Se made Pepsi millions of rupees in money, and old cricketers like Wasim and Shoaib continue to make money via ads late into retirement. Javed Afridi is using the Zalmi brand to sell clothes, merchandise and just launched a cars business!

    I truly believe that anyone in the setup who is not milking cricket like crazy (for example, the 5 non-Zalmi franchise owners in the PSL) are incredibly incompetent and do not realize the cash cow they are sitting on.

    PCB has begun looking a lot more professional, forward thinking, and financials-oriented under the Mani and Wasim Khan regime. This is reflected in the out-of-the-box broadcast deal struck with PTV, efforts with Shoaib Akhtar to bring sponsors into domestic cricket, interviews, press conferences, and promotional clips by the media team led by Sami ul Hassan Burni, and people like Wasim Khan going one step beyond his duties to actually become a class negotiator with the English Cricket Board, Bangladesh, South Africa, and Australia. There are reports of out of the box solutions to having Pakistan host a World Cup, U-19 World Cups, and Women’s World Cups, including joint efforts with the Emirates Cricket Board, or closer ties with Sri Lanka. Now we are seeing the revamp, publicity, and monetization of domestic cricket, which has never ever happened before to this extent. India’s domestic matches do not get this much coverage and marketing, and neither do Australia’s, and only English county matches do due to their extensive history and quality of international players in the teams.

    There is a bright future in Pakistan Cricket’s broadcasting potential. It is a gold mine waiting to be tapped, and the direction is accurate. Only time will tell whether we are able to do justice to this value.
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    Does anyone know how much revenue we made from the T20 domestic comp being televised? Will these figures be published eventually?

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    Credit where its due - despite the Covid situation the broadcasting coverage for the 2020/21 domestic season was outstanding.

    PCB and their production partners did a terrific job in showing showcasing domestic cricket in a way not many boards do. In comparison, New Zealand and West Indies' coverage of 4 day cricket is bare bones with a camera stuck at one end and streamed on YouTube with no commentary or postmatch analysis. Even England's County Championship coverage is limited as Sky broadcast very few matches.

    The YouTube highlights were well packaged and I looked forward to catching up on the domestic matches after work.

    It's actually a shame we have to wait another 9 months for the next domestic season, which I've never said before about a previous Pakistani domestic season.
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    Agreed. It was a really good production and due to it being so easily available on YouTube I found myself watching it regularly. Well done PCB!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Credit where its due - despite the Covid situation the broadcasting coverage for the 2020/21 domestic season was outstanding.

    PCB and their production partners did a terrific job in showing showcasing domestic cricket in a way not many boards do. In comparison, New Zealand and West Indies' coverage of 4 day cricket is bare bones with a camera stuck at one end and streamed on YouTube with no commentary or postmatch analysis. Even England's County Championship coverage is limited as Sky broadcast very few matches.

    The YouTube highlights were well packaged and I looked forward to catching up on the domestic matches after work.

    It's actually a shame we have to wait another 9 months for the next domestic season, which I've never said before about a previous Pakistani domestic season.
    I think it'll be really interesting to see a travelling production crew next season, at least for the QEA trophy. InshAllah hopefully we'll have crowds back by September, which will help with the spectacle element of competitions.

    Hopefully they can also play both the national t20 and the Pakistan Cup around the country. I'd love to see a few games played in Baluchistan and broadcast on TV. That would be very cool

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Credit where its due - despite the Covid situation the broadcasting coverage for the 2020/21 domestic season was outstanding.

    PCB and their production partners did a terrific job in showing showcasing domestic cricket in a way not many boards do. In comparison, New Zealand and West Indies' coverage of 4 day cricket is bare bones with a camera stuck at one end and streamed on YouTube with no commentary or postmatch analysis. Even England's County Championship coverage is limited as Sky broadcast very few matches.

    The YouTube highlights were well packaged and I looked forward to catching up on the domestic matches after work.

    It's actually a shame we have to wait another 9 months for the next domestic season, which I've never said before about a previous Pakistani domestic season.
    I would like to thank Najam Sethi and the rest of the "corrupt but competent" crew for this.
    It is their hard work 4 years ago ( I am sure they did something) that allowed us to witness and follow an entire domestic season for the first time. Credit where it is due.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Credit where its due - despite the Covid situation the broadcasting coverage for the 2020/21 domestic season was outstanding.

    PCB and their production partners did a terrific job in showing showcasing domestic cricket in a way not many boards do. In comparison, New Zealand and West Indies' coverage of 4 day cricket is bare bones with a camera stuck at one end and streamed on YouTube with no commentary or postmatch analysis. Even England's County Championship coverage is limited as Sky broadcast very few matches.

    The YouTube highlights were well packaged and I looked forward to catching up on the domestic matches after work.

    It's actually a shame we have to wait another 9 months for the next domestic season, which I've never said before about a previous Pakistani domestic season.
    Totally agree, it feels like an organisation run to promote cricket in PK. I still say we need more FC matches, at least 14 plus the final.


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    Is invest all this money into domestic cricket, make its financially viable to concentrate on the longer formats of the game and not jsut t-20, if we carry on the way we are we will end up like West Indies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    Totally agree, it feels like an organisation run to promote cricket in PK. I still say we need more FC matches, at least 14 plus the final.
    We need to hold 2 fc seasons per year. 10 games is not enough and our top youngsters haven’t played FC in 2 years.

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    If you take the England season

    It usually starts at the end of March and finishes at the end of September.

    So you have 6 months of cricket

    The county cricket usually lasts 5 to 6 months

    The one day cup lasts about 6 weeks

    And the t20 blast lasts about 2 months

    All 3 tournaments run concurrently .

    We could have a season that starts end of oct till maybe mid April .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    Totally agree, it feels like an organisation run to promote cricket in PK. I still say we need more FC matches, at least 14 plus the final.
    Ideally any FC cricketers not involved with the national teams in the off-season would drop down to City and Club cricket, thus raising the standards of grassroots cricket

    That's where PCB must now turn its attention to next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Ideally any FC cricketers not involved with the national teams in the off-season would drop down to City and Club cricket, thus raising the standards of grassroots cricket

    That's where PCB must now turn its attention to next.
    But that requires investment in grounds and pitches. There should be a fully functional league in each city under the auspices of the Regional cricket Association, but we know that means organisation and that is not a word you can use for these associations

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    Was PCB’s $200m rights deal with PTV mere bluff?

    LAHORE: It was in September 2020 when the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) had signed a ‘record’ tripartite three-year TV rights deal with the Pakistan Television and I-media — a cable distribution company — at the Prime Minister House in the presence of PM Imran Khan.

    Ehsan Mani, the incumbent PCB chairman, and CEO Wasim Khan hailed the deal as a ground-breaking one in Pakistan history and boasted about how it would change the face of marketing and revenue earning in the country.

    However, all those tall claims made by the PCB seems to be falling flat now as investigations made over the past few weeks by Dawn prove that the ‘record’ deal was nothing but an eyewash and not even one tenth of the revenue promised could be guaranteed from any of the resources named in the deal.

    According to details gathered, the basic structure of the deal was that PCB would provide its domestic and bilateral international content to PTV on a revenue share basis and the sales and collections functions would be handled by PTV. The amounts collected would be deposited into a joint escrow account with National Bank of Pakistan (NBP) for further release to the parties based on a pre-agreed sharing formula. This deal didn’t include the Televisions and other Broadcast rights of PSL.

    As an adjunct to this PTV-PCB agreement, PCB also signed a deal with I-media to collect cable revenues for the content being shown on PTV Sports which basically means that the consumer would have to pay PCB to watch Pakistan cricket content.

    I-media, apparently, provided a monthly minimum guarantee secured through post-dated cheques.

    Sources in the PTV and the PCB, speaking to Dawn on condition of anonymity, however termed the deal as ‘absurd’ and said that even selling of all available slots and maximum airtime for the next 10 to 15 years will not raise the massive amount of US$200million let alone in the three-year period quoted by Mani and Wasim.

    They further said that as it is, the PCB is struggling to rope in leading sponsors and broadcasters for Pakistan cricket, so there is no way a huge amount of US$200m could be raised in three years by any stretch of imagination.

    A couple of officials termed the deal as an attempt to hoodwink Imran Khan government who have been tightening screws on the PCB top brass to revamp the revenue earning structure and to provide maximum financial boost to national television network — the PTV.

    It must be mentioned here that Dawn had sent some pertinent questions to the PCB for its comments on the issue and regarding the debilitating state of tv revenues vis-à-vis Pakistan cricket four days ago. However, no answers were received from the Board despite till Tuesday evening while repeated calls to PCB spokesperson also went in vain.

    The I-media representatives also were unavailable for any comments despite repeated attempts by Dawn to contact them. However, sources in the I-media also termed the deal as ‘ridiculous’ and confirmed that the preposterous amount of USD200m mentioned by Mani could not be raised in 10 years or more even if maximum airtime is sold.

    Dawn had asked the PCB the following questions:

    — Why PCB had entered into a revenue share agreement with PTV and I-media without an open tender and without putting together a realistic feasibility on the matter.

    — If I-media has defaulted on its payments to PCB, then why hasn’t PCB en-cashed the post-dated cheques to balance out things?’

    — Can a public broadcaster directly or indirectly charge cable fees to consumers for its channel when it is already being supported by taxpayer monies.

    — What will happen if the $200 million amount is not collected over the next 3 years and who will be penalised for the failed deal?

    Moreover, sources claimed that no such public broadcaster model exists anywhere in the world where the broadcaster can directly or indirectly charge cable fees to consumers for its channel when it is already being supported by taxpayer monies.

    Published in Dawn, April 15th, 2021


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    DK why we are having issues in getting sponsors.Pak vs Sa matches were mostly watched by more than 40 percent of the tv audience on every minute whereas rest 60 was divided into all others.Stats are of nayatel

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    Wasim Khan and Mani dined out on the innovative nature of this deal and how it was the first of its kind in the history of cricket, however, it was always going to prove difficult to earn those headline returns given the inherent structure of the media industry in Pakistan.

    In Pakistan's case, due to the paltry size of the economy relative to population, eyeballs don't necessarily translate to subscription or advertising revenue.

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    Well if $200mn was feasible, surely one of the pvt broadcasters would have paid a lot of money to get the rights.

    This revenue sharing deal makes no sense. If this was the best method to get maximum revenue, other boards like BCCI CA ECB would have done it, instead of just going for sale of rights in lieu of guaranteed money.

    PCB would do well to get 50mn to 60mn as net revenue after deducting production costs.

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    TBH it looked too good to be true.

    I was extremely shocked when I heard about $200 million, always knew that at some point truth will be out in the open.

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    Pcb in my opinion should make its own channel.Sethi thought of doing it too and they should turn it into pay tv for atleast 50 percent matches or something like that.Even if they have 20 million subscribers at 50 rs per month they ll earn revenue of 230 million in 3 years plus money generated through ads.Apart from it they should also have an app where they show documentaries and stuff and live matches since on illegal streams like fb there are mostly more than 1 lakh people watching games if they pay 20 re per month a lot of revenue can be generated.Dont know hoe practical my suggestions are

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    Quote Originally Posted by salahuddin10 View Post
    Pcb in my opinion should make its own channel.Sethi thought of doing it too and they should turn it into pay tv for atleast 50 percent matches or something like that.Even if they have 20 million subscribers at 50 rs per month they ll earn revenue of 230 million in 3 years plus money generated through ads.Apart from it they should also have an app where they show documentaries and stuff and live matches since on illegal streams like fb there are mostly more than 1 lakh people watching games if they pay 20 re per month a lot of revenue can be generated.Dont know hoe practical my suggestions are
    Wasim Khan mentioned in an interview a few months they are in the process of looking into setting up an Over The Top network.

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    Quote Originally Posted by salahuddin10 View Post
    Pcb in my opinion should make its own channel.Sethi thought of doing it too and they should turn it into pay tv for atleast 50 percent matches or something like that.Even if they have 20 million subscribers at 50 rs per month they ll earn revenue of 230 million in 3 years plus money generated through ads.Apart from it they should also have an app where they show documentaries and stuff and live matches since on illegal streams like fb there are mostly more than 1 lakh people watching games if they pay 20 re per month a lot of revenue can be generated.Dont know hoe practical my suggestions are
    Pay for TV would never work in a country like Pakistan where people find shortcuts to everything. Pakistan is not a first world country.

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    I knew it was hot air then too. No way can it happen in a country like ours where noone pays for stuff online.

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    If Dawn's sources are correct, does this article mean that PCB fooled PM IK and public with the deal amount and I-media in turn has fooled PCB by not paying anything?

    Karma it is then

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    Well this isn't surprising at all.

    PCB need to find sponsors as soon as possible. Need to perform well in the World Cup and in the next few series that we have, especially in England.

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    Expected some professionalism from Mani, WK where they would study the numbers and revise the assumptions ten times before making any bold statements in public.

    Heck when I do a tax return my partner and managers grill me ten times on my sources, assumptions before putting the final product out there for the client and in public.

    If this is true then heads need to roll including EM and WK for going public with this to begin with and then embarrassing themselves, the PCB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Wasim Khan mentioned in an interview a few months they are in the process of looking into setting up an Over The Top network.
    Sorry, but this guy makes too many claims.

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    Dawn had asked the PCB the following questions:
    I wonder if they will get any answers though.

    Worrying read this if correct.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Markhor View Post
    Wasim Khan mentioned in an interview a few months they are in the process of looking into setting up an Over The Top network.
    I very much doubt that would be profitable. Unless PCB is looking to diversify into general entertainment and create a lot of digital content it would probably not be feasible. They won't find too many subscribers for cricket alone.


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    I knew it was all lie

    provide maximum financial boost to national television network — the PTV.
    Comedy

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    Quote Originally Posted by salahuddin10 View Post
    Pcb in my opinion should make its own channel.Sethi thought of doing it too and they should turn it into pay tv for atleast 50 percent matches or something like that.Even if they have 20 million subscribers at 50 rs per month they ll earn revenue of 230 million in 3 years plus money generated through ads.Apart from it they should also have an app where they show documentaries and stuff and live matches since on illegal streams like fb there are mostly more than 1 lakh people watching games if they pay 20 re per month a lot of revenue can be generated.Dont know hoe practical my suggestions are
    That would be terrible for the growth of the game especially for a sport of such national significance as cricket, majority of Pakistanis are too cheap to pay for PPV.

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    As with everything regarding Pakistan, there's always a caveat

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    Our fans were distributing mithai when this deal was announced and everyone was waxing lyrical about Wasim and Mani.

    It simply shows how naive, gullible and deluded we really are.

    What I said about Wasim one day one continues to be vindicated with each passing day. He is incompetent and a conman, and got this job through his sycophant nature.

    He is not going to face any accountability from the board because he is a political appointment, otherwise if PCB had any credibility and accountability, he would have been sacked or would have resigned after the PSL disaster.

    However, we know that he cannot stomach the criticism and hostility from the media and ex-players who haven’t been duped by his “I left England to help Pakistan” drama which made him a fan favorite among Pakistani fans.

    As a result, he is going leave and not extend his contract unless he gets the pay-rise which he clearly does not deserve.

    Easily the worst administrator PCB has ever had.

    As far Mani is concerned, the less said about him the better. He is senile with no energy and no passion for the job. He has been sipping tea in his office and hiding behind Wasim for 2 years now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Our fans were distributing mithai when this deal was announced and everyone was waxing lyrical about Wasim and Mani.

    It simply shows how naive, gullible and deluded we really are.

    What I said about Wasim one day one continues to be vindicated with each passing day. He is incompetent and a conman, and got this job through his sycophant nature.

    He is not going to face any accountability from the board because he is a political appointment, otherwise if PCB had any credibility and accountability, he would have been sacked or would have resigned after the PSL disaster.

    However, we know that he cannot stomach the criticism and hostility from the media and ex-players who haven’t been duped by his “I left England to help Pakistan” drama which made him a fan favorite among Pakistani fans.

    As a result, he is going leave and not extend his contract unless he gets the pay-rise which he clearly does not deserve.

    Easily the worst administrator PCB has ever had.

    As far Mani is concerned, the less said about him the better. He is senile with no energy and no passion for the job. He has been sipping tea in his office and hiding behind Wasim for 2 years now.
    Come up with concrete and factual logics and evidences that Najam Sethi was better than Wasim Khan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shujaatraza View Post
    Come up with concrete and factual logics and evidences that Najam Sethi was better than Wasim Khan.
    During the previous decade, PCB had two top priorities: establish PSL and initiate the process of restoring international cricket in Pakistan.

    Prior to involvement of Sethi in PCB around 2014, PCB had been trying hard since 2010-11 to come up with a fake IPL or to convince teams to tour Pakistan.

    They were not making any progress on either front. They were finding it very hard to find investors for PSL and their diplomacy with respect to foreign teams failed.

    Apart from that 2012 series where some cash-strapped retired players formed a world XI to tour Pakistan, no international side was willing to play in Pakistan between 2009 and 2015.

    When Sethi came into the picture, PCB quickly made strides on both fronts. He is an extremely well-connected man and it was not hard for him to find investors. He turned the idea of PSL into reality very quickly.

    Moreover, he was also very strategic with the process of restoring international cricket in Pakistan.

    He used whatever means necessary to convince the likes of Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe, West Indies etc. to play a handful of matches in Pakistan which slowly but surely build Pakistan’s credibility and restored the confidence of players and boards.

    Those incremental steps, including hosting a few PSL matches in Pakistan ever year, laid the platform and the groundwork for the full resumption of cricket in Pakistan.

    Mani and Wasim simply found themselves at the right place at the right time and capitalized on the work of Sethi.

    Without those incremental steps from 2015 to 2018, PCB would not have been able to host Test matches, host entire PSL, and get teams like South Africa to tour.

    Considering how incompetent Wasim has proved to be and how messed up hosting PSL in the pandemic, there is no doubt whatsoever that if he was tasked with creating PSL and initiating the process of restoring international cricket in Pakistan, he would have failed on both fronts.

    PSL and the restoration of international cricket in Pakistan will forever be the legacy of Najam Sethi.

    People complain about Sethi not revamping the domestic structure. That would have been achieved as well after the fulfillment of the two main agendas of PCB at the time.

    Moreover, this reformation of domestic cricket has nothing to do with Wasim. He has only implemented the framework provided by Imran Khan.

    Imran has always talked about adopting the Shield cricket model in domestic cricket, so he would have done it after becoming the patron of PCB irrespective of who the PCB chief was.

    Wasim Khan’s legacy is the following:

    1. Messing up hosting PSL in the pandemic and embarrassing the entire nation in the cricket world.

    2. Making fake tv deals to make himself look good.

    3. Completely messing up the succession plan of Mickey Arthur. He appointed Misbah before advertising the job on PCB website. The entire process completely lacked transparency and professionalism.

    Moreover, when he appointed Misbah in the dual role (coach + selector), he called it a necessary innovation. However, when Misbah found it difficult to balance both jobs, he trashed the necessary innovation and reverted to the old model.

    As a result, we never found out if the problem was the dual role itself or with Misbah. When you do an experiment, you do not make conclusions after testing one sample.

    Wasim is simply clueless and completely out of his depth. He also has a very thin skin and cannot face criticism. He was expecting VIP treatment because of his UK passport but that did not happen.

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    So this turned out to be a hoax designed to make Wasim Khan look good.

    Wasim Khan is the gift that keeps on giving.

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    Moment of silence for all the fans who were distributing mithai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    During the previous decade, PCB had two top priorities: establish PSL and initiate the process of restoring international cricket in Pakistan.

    Prior to involvement of Sethi in PCB around 2014, PCB had been trying hard since 2010-11 to come up with a fake IPL or to convince teams to tour Pakistan.

    They were not making any progress on either front. They were finding it very hard to find investors for PSL and their diplomacy with respect to foreign teams failed.

    Apart from that 2012 series where some cash-strapped retired players formed a world XI to tour Pakistan, no international side was willing to play in Pakistan between 2009 and 2015.

    When Sethi came into the picture, PCB quickly made strides on both fronts. He is an extremely well-connected man and it was not hard for him to find investors. He turned the idea of PSL into reality very quickly.

    Moreover, he was also very strategic with the process of restoring international cricket in Pakistan.

    He used whatever means necessary to convince the likes of Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe, West Indies etc. to play a handful of matches in Pakistan which slowly but surely build Pakistan’s credibility and restored the confidence of players and boards.

    Those incremental steps, including hosting a few PSL matches in Pakistan ever year, laid the platform and the groundwork for the full resumption of cricket in Pakistan.

    Mani and Wasim simply found themselves at the right place at the right time and capitalized on the work of Sethi.

    Without those incremental steps from 2015 to 2018, PCB would not have been able to host Test matches, host entire PSL, and get teams like South Africa to tour.

    Considering how incompetent Wasim has proved to be and how messed up hosting PSL in the pandemic, there is no doubt whatsoever that if he was tasked with creating PSL and initiating the process of restoring international cricket in Pakistan, he would have failed on both fronts.

    PSL and the restoration of international cricket in Pakistan will forever be the legacy of Najam Sethi.

    People complain about Sethi not revamping the domestic structure. That would have been achieved as well after the fulfillment of the two main agendas of PCB at the time.

    Moreover, this reformation of domestic cricket has nothing to do with Wasim. He has only implemented the framework provided by Imran Khan.

    Imran has always talked about adopting the Shield cricket model in domestic cricket, so he would have done it after becoming the patron of PCB irrespective of who the PCB chief was.

    Wasim Khan’s legacy is the following:

    1. Messing up hosting PSL in the pandemic and embarrassing the entire nation in the cricket world.

    2. Making fake tv deals to make himself look good.

    3. Completely messing up the succession plan of Mickey Arthur. He appointed Misbah before advertising the job on PCB website. The entire process completely lacked transparency and professionalism.

    Moreover, when he appointed Misbah in the dual role (coach + selector), he called it a necessary innovation. However, when Misbah found it difficult to balance both jobs, he trashed the necessary innovation and reverted to the old model.

    As a result, we never found out if the problem was the dual role itself or with Misbah. When you do an experiment, you do not make conclusions after testing one sample.

    Wasim is simply clueless and completely out of his depth. He also has a very thin skin and cannot face criticism. He was expecting VIP treatment because of his UK passport but that did not happen.
    Normally people forget about this part and just go

    We need a brown sahab with western education but the person at that level should 100% be a full Pakistani due to this reason alone

    You can't expect a guy who hasn't lived in Pakistan for years to establish contacts with Pakistani businesmen,kingmakers, power brokers in matter of just couple of months

    And as a Ceo of PCB you absolutely "need" those connections

    Ok just read the story again
    " A couple of officials termed the deal as an attempt to hoodwink Imran Khan government who have been tightening screws on the PCB top brass to revamp the revenue earning structure and to provide maximum financial boost to national television network — the PTV."

    Imagine Najam with his political connections he would have never let something like this happen to his organization and since he already know the powerful people in political system he would have talked to tham directly l, could have "threatened" tham as he is a journalist after all... and figured something out

    So the connections are absolutely nessacary for a position that Mani,WK have

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigboii View Post
    Normally people forget about this part and just go

    We need a brown sahab with western education but the person at that level should 100% be a full Pakistani due to this reason alone

    You can't expect a guy who hasn't lived in Pakistan for years to establish contacts with Pakistani businesmen,kingmakers, power brokers in matter of just couple of months

    And as a Ceo of PCB you absolutely "need" those connections

    Ok just read the story again
    " A couple of officials termed the deal as an attempt to hoodwink Imran Khan government who have been tightening screws on the PCB top brass to revamp the revenue earning structure and to provide maximum financial boost to national television network — the PTV."

    Imagine Najam with his political connections he would have never let something like this happen to his organization and since he already know the powerful people in political system he would have talked to tham directly l, could have "threatened" tham as he is a journalist after all... and figured something out

    So the connections are absolutely nessacary for a position that Mani,WK have
    Imran doesn’t care about PCB and Pakistan cricket anymore. He is least bothered.

    He had to remove Sethi because of political conflict and when it came to deciding his successor, it was a competition between who could butter him the most, and Mani and Wasim won the race with their unmatched sycophancy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    During the previous decade, PCB had two top priorities: establish PSL and initiate the process of restoring international cricket in Pakistan.

    Prior to involvement of Sethi in PCB around 2014, PCB had been trying hard since 2010-11 to come up with a fake IPL or to convince teams to tour Pakistan.

    They were not making any progress on either front. They were finding it very hard to find investors for PSL and their diplomacy with respect to foreign teams failed.

    Apart from that 2012 series where some cash-strapped retired players formed a world XI to tour Pakistan, no international side was willing to play in Pakistan between 2009 and 2015.

    When Sethi came into the picture, PCB quickly made strides on both fronts. He is an extremely well-connected man and it was not hard for him to find investors. He turned the idea of PSL into reality very quickly.

    Moreover, he was also very strategic with the process of restoring international cricket in Pakistan.

    He used whatever means necessary to convince the likes of Sri Lanka, Zimbabwe, West Indies etc. to play a handful of matches in Pakistan which slowly but surely build Pakistan’s credibility and restored the confidence of players and boards.

    Those incremental steps, including hosting a few PSL matches in Pakistan ever year, laid the platform and the groundwork for the full resumption of cricket in Pakistan.

    Mani and Wasim simply found themselves at the right place at the right time and capitalized on the work of Sethi.

    Without those incremental steps from 2015 to 2018, PCB would not have been able to host Test matches, host entire PSL, and get teams like South Africa to tour.

    Considering how incompetent Wasim has proved to be and how messed up hosting PSL in the pandemic, there is no doubt whatsoever that if he was tasked with creating PSL and initiating the process of restoring international cricket in Pakistan, he would have failed on both fronts.

    PSL and the restoration of international cricket in Pakistan will forever be the legacy of Najam Sethi.

    People complain about Sethi not revamping the domestic structure. That would have been achieved as well after the fulfillment of the two main agendas of PCB at the time.

    Moreover, this reformation of domestic cricket has nothing to do with Wasim. He has only implemented the framework provided by Imran Khan.

    Imran has always talked about adopting the Shield cricket model in domestic cricket, so he would have done it after becoming the patron of PCB irrespective of who the PCB chief was.

    Wasim Khan’s legacy is the following:

    1. Messing up hosting PSL in the pandemic and embarrassing the entire nation in the cricket world.

    2. Making fake tv deals to make himself look good.

    3. Completely messing up the succession plan of Mickey Arthur. He appointed Misbah before advertising the job on PCB website. The entire process completely lacked transparency and professionalism.

    Moreover, when he appointed Misbah in the dual role (coach + selector), he called it a necessary innovation. However, when Misbah found it difficult to balance both jobs, he trashed the necessary innovation and reverted to the old model.

    As a result, we never found out if the problem was the dual role itself or with Misbah. When you do an experiment, you do not make conclusions after testing one sample.

    Wasim is simply clueless and completely out of his depth. He also has a very thin skin and cannot face criticism. He was expecting VIP treatment because of his UK passport but that did not happen.
    Well Zimbabwe and some world x1 came before Sethi and during Sethi a much depleted West Indies were the first side to come who were also offered good cash to play 3 matches in Karachi..Sethi was lucky that he was there when PSL happened,all the ground and paper work was done before him so he was lucky to be around at that time..the only thing I agree you with is he was politically well connected and would have kept your other favourite Javed Afridi in check with his multiple covid breaches..
    On the other hand Sethi did absolutely nothing in domestic and let leaches like Shakeel Sheikh be a big influence in Pakistan cricket who had a very bad impact on Pakistan cricket

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    Well normally I don't agree with Mamoon but if this PCB PTV deal is not even 10% of the amount envisioned then I am afraid WK and EM dont have much to show for their tenures

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    Wasim and Mani's facade slowly becoming visible.

    If it's true, both should be kicked out.
    If PSL debacle wasn't enough destructive to PCB's reputation.
    Seems like going back to Butt, Nasim and Zaka Ashraf days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shujaatraza View Post
    Well Zimbabwe and some world x1 came before Sethi and during Sethi a much depleted West Indies were the first side to come who were also offered good cash to play 3 matches in Karachi..Sethi was lucky that he was there when PSL happened,all the ground and paper work was done before him so he was lucky to be around at that time..the only thing I agree you with is he was politically well connected and would have kept your other favourite Javed Afridi in check with his multiple covid breaches..
    On the other hand Sethi did absolutely nothing in domestic and let leaches like Shakeel Sheikh be a big influence in Pakistan cricket who had a very bad impact on Pakistan cricket
    You sure about that buddy?

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    Such deals are always complicated and I would be interested to hear a clarification statement from PCB.

    Lets not turn a blind eye to the fact that Dawn has been a source of propaganda in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    Imran doesn’t care about PCB and Pakistan cricket anymore. He is least bothered.

    He had to remove Sethi because of political conflict and when it came to deciding his successor, it was a competition between who could butter him the most, and Mani and Wasim won the race with their unmatched sycophancy.
    That is a grave mistake by Imran. Sethi did good work in general, Imran should have let go the ego and retained him for some more time to ensure that the transition is smooth. I am sure Sethi being a street smart person would have patched up with Imran to ensure the responsibility does not get affected.

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    Not looking good so far. Sent a message to WK linking this article and asking for his comments. He read my message but chose to ignore. You only run and hide when you are caught and have no answers

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post

    Dawn had asked the PCB the following questions:

    — Why PCB had entered into a revenue share agreement with PTV and I-media without an open tender and without putting together a realistic feasibility on the matter.


    If it true then it was a 100% scam by WK and Mani to fool people. How can a deal of such magnitute happen without the finanical feasibility report? Where did they get this $200 million figure from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedwoodOriginal View Post
    Pay for TV would never work in a country like Pakistan where people find shortcuts to everything. Pakistan is not a first world country.
    How much is the annual subscription cost in Pakistan for Pak team's and PSL matches?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thanos View Post
    How much is the annual subscription cost in Pakistan for Pak team's and PSL matches?
    It doesn't work like that here. Cable providers provide you all the channels and those channels include sports channels like PTV Sports, Ten Sports, Geo Super which broadcast PSL and Pakistan home & away matches. Cable providers all have their own monthly fees but usually it isn't more than Rs. 150 Rs. or Rs. 200 which roughly translates to 1 USD.

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    The $200mn figure was never guaranteed income. This wasn't a traditional TV rights deal but a revenue sharing model over three years, and it has only been a few months this deal has run for which the Dawn article author forgets.

    However that $200mn figure was irresponsibly bandied around - that was always an aspirational number and PCB should've been much clearer on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Not looking good so far. Sent a message to WK linking this article and asking for his comments. He read my message but chose to ignore. You only run and hide when you are caught and have no answers
    Guy has better things to do than answer you.

    Run and hidez seriously?


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    PCB can not improve its revenue because the Federal Government has monopolized tv rights to support it's failing state run channels.


    Misbah, Wahab, Junaid, Root, Williamson fan.
    T20 isn't Cricket

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    How exactly does PCB plan its budget outlay without a firm figure on income?

    Once there's no clarity on income there's also more scope for embezzlement. Cannot be held accountable when auditors cannot reliably know how much the board earned.

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    Apparently the deal has fallen apart. The PCB has backed out of the deal with PTV and now they are bidding for their home matches with international broadcasters again.

    What went wrong? Who will be held responsible for this fiasco? I hope the PCB officials who boasted about this deal are held to account but the likes of EM, WK, Babar Hamid and Co have already been shown the door.

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    The redistribution of cricket without proper authorization was understood to be the main reason the value of PCB content was undermined. It was meant to put an end to the illegal distribution of cricket matches in the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Apparently the deal has fallen apart. The PCB has backed out of the deal with PTV and now they are bidding for their home matches with international broadcasters again.

    What went wrong? Who will be held responsible for this fiasco? I hope the PCB officials who boasted about this deal are held to account but the likes of EM, WK, Babar Hamid and Co have already been shown the door.
    Wasim Khan, Ehsan Mani should be investigated for this fraud. I bet there was no feasiblity report and risk analysis report.
    @Mamoon

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    No wonder the Pakistan vs West Indies series isn’t showing on the Sky Sports UK cricket schedule could that mean the UK rights with Sky Sports has also ended? Maybe Saj can let us know anything sifferent if thats the case? Dont want to watch Pak cricket again on desi channels!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by P4K1 #1 View Post
    No wonder the Pakistan vs West Indies series isn’t showing on the Sky Sports UK cricket schedule could that mean the UK rights with Sky Sports has also ended? Maybe Saj can let us know anything sifferent if thats the case? Dont want to watch Pak cricket again on desi channels!!!
    Yes I'll try to find out.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Apparently the deal has fallen apart. The PCB has backed out of the deal with PTV and now they are bidding for their home matches with international broadcasters again.

    What went wrong? Who will be held responsible for this fiasco? I hope the PCB officials who boasted about this deal are held to account but the likes of EM, WK, Babar Hamid and Co have already been shown the door.
    It was pushed through politically, then information miniter wanted figed figures and bulldozed the deal withput any real bidding or scrutiny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muqarrab View Post
    It was pushed through politically, then information miniter wanted figed figures and bulldozed the deal withput any real bidding or scrutiny.
    Shibli Faraz?

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    I wonder if Asports coming into the market has something to do with this.

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    Well this deal fell pretty quickly. Was too good to be true.


    As general said, this does happen so people have to play the game : Siddique Salik

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    I think stakeholders have realised that majority of viewers in Pakistan watched T20 WC on star sports instead of PTV. Majority of sports fans in Pakistan have moved on to illegal cracked indian DTH services which costs only about 30USD one time setup with no monthly fees. This is going to be a big problem for cricket & other broadcasts in the country. Currently there is no restriction on it & I doubt there is any way for authorities to stop this. The only way out is to compete by launching our own DTH services. ppl are fed up & have given up on crapy analog cable tv.


    Serious Sport has nothing to do with fair play... it is war minus the shooting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    I wonder if Asports coming into the market has something to do with this.
    First series ARy covered was pakistan NZ series in 2003 so they have some, little, history of producing matches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muqarrab View Post
    First series ARy covered was pakistan NZ series in 2003 so they have some, little, history of producing matches.
    Am reading stuff on FB and Twitter that the Pakistani govt is going to reward ARY and Salman Iqbal for their pro PTI coverage with these rights.

    Also reading that the PCB has officially told all interested parties that they want atleast $500 million for the rights. Pretty ambitious stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Am reading stuff on FB and Twitter that the Pakistani govt is going to reward ARY and Salman Iqbal for their pro PTI coverage with these rights.

    Also reading that the PCB has officially told all interested parties that they want atleast $500 million for the rights. Pretty ambitious stuff
    The good performance at World T20 has increased the market value it seems.

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    Ptv should be banned from showing any cricket matches

    Its 2021
    They get their tv licence fees from every household in form of electricity bills
    Yet their quality is so rubbish and than never ending same ads which are even more annoying.
    And on top the expert panels are so dry


    لاا اله الا الله استغفر الله سبحان الله وبحمده سبحان الله العظييم

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Am reading stuff on FB and Twitter that the Pakistani govt is going to reward ARY and Salman Iqbal for their pro PTI coverage with these rights.

    Also reading that the PCB has officially told all interested parties that they want atleast $500 million for the rights. Pretty ambitious stuff
    ARY is 'state's' mouthpiece, so it really is ptv. Won't be surprised if what you wrote ends up happening. But they have partnered with ten sports, so hopefully production qiality will be at par with whats on offer in other countries.

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