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    Why do some of the Pakistani ex-cricketers carry a chip on their shoulders?

    Shoaib Akhtar, Younis Khan, Javed Miandad, Kamran Akmal (not sure if he has retired), Abdul Razzaq, Faisal Iqbal, etc.

    • You see them do self-praise - talk about how they were "legends", "brands", etc.
    • They belittle people around them (have an ax to grind) such as current generation of young cricketers, administrators
    • They say they were wronged by the media, the world..were a victim of circumstances, politics, etc.


    I wonder why? Some of them were genuine stars in their times and don't need to repeat that every time, publicly.

    Also, is this a common trait in middle-aged Pakistanis or is it specific to these people? I know that there are exceptions such as Ramiz Raja and Wasim Akram.
    Last edited by BreadPakoda; 17th September 2020 at 01:08.

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    Indian ex cricketers used to be like that 15 years ago. I think with professionalism things have improved. IPL has got rid of things like senior/junior. Ex cricketers are more respectful when they discuss new players nowadays.

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    They do until they get a job with the PCB and then it all changes.



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    Gotta sell there brand obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cric_lover4487 View Post
    Indian ex cricketers used to be like that 15 years ago. I think with professionalism things have improved. IPL has got rid of things like senior/junior. Ex cricketers are more respectful when they discuss new players nowadays.
    Should we really credit IPL for this?. @Bhaag Viru Bhaag bhai do your thing I guess.

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    If India has 10-15 years of mediocre cricket in upcoming years, you would see likes of Harbhajan, Sehwag, Gambhir speaking similarly

    Check how ex Manchester United players tall on cameras now and blast their current squad/managers

    There are other reasons too but this is a basic one and probably most crucial.

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    Humility is not a trait our cricketers excel at. One of the nicest cricketers I ever met was Asif Mujtaba.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cric_lover4487 View Post
    Indian ex cricketers used to be like that 15 years ago. I think with professionalism things have improved. IPL has got rid of things like senior/junior. Ex cricketers are more respectful when they discuss new players nowadays.
    I can't remember anybody dissing the team in 2005. Atul Wassan, Ajay Jadeja and Sidhu were the main personas on TV back then and they were usually calm.

    Mind you, the 1990s lot don't have a leg on to stand to critique the 2000s cricketers.


    Have some Sehwag in your life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varun View Post
    I can't remember anybody dissing the team in 2005. Atul Wassan, Ajay Jadeja and Sidhu were the main personas on TV back then and they were usually calm.

    Mind you, the 1990s lot don't have a leg on to stand to critique the 2000s cricketers.
    If you would watch replays of Star's coverage of overseas tours in the 90s and early 2000s, you'll find that the biggest critics of the Indian team were Gavaskar and Shastri. More often than not they'd be questioning the courage and technique of the batsmen, or the lack of talent in the bowling attack. That all changed once they became employed formally by the BCCI in 2008.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Monetarist View Post
    If you would watch replays of Star's coverage of overseas tours in the 90s and early 2000s, you'll find that the biggest critics of the Indian team were Gavaskar and Shastri. More often than not they'd be questioning the courage and technique of the batsmen, or the lack of talent in the bowling attack. That all changed once they became employed formally by the BCCI in 2008.
    Interesting. I thought Ravi was always a cheerleader. Never knew about this aspect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saj View Post
    They do until they get a job with the PCB and then it all changes.
    At times I feel the passion in the outbursts I see on TV shows stems from a strong desire to get noticed by PCB.

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    Because there were famous for their cricket only, not their conduct.

    Not all of Pakistanís ex-cricketers are like this.

    Shahid Afridi, Saeed Anwar and Saqlain Mushtaq are all well behaved men.

    Every country has people who struggle to conduct themselves. Pakistan is no exception.

    Unfortunately, due to a lack of education, most of the bitter ex-cricketers have nothing to do after retirement besides going on social media and spewing rubbish. Obviously in other countries you do not have this problem of education.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreadPakoda View Post
    Interesting. I thought Ravi was always a cheerleader. Never knew about this aspect.
    There was a great piece on cricinfo by Sharda Ugra a few months ago on Shastri's evolution as a person over the past couple of decades, well worth digging up if you're interested.


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