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    Mohammad Irfan Jr decides quits Pakistan cricket to settle in Sydney

    Mohammad Irfan Junior has bid farewell to cricket after getting disheartened following selection criteria of the upcoming National T20 Cup.

    Sources privy to the matter have revealed that the 25-year-old right-arm fast bowler has formally informed the Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) about his decision.

    Mohammad Irfan Jr said he deserved a place in the first XI on the basis of his performance but he was selected in the second XI as selectors picked their favorite players.

    It has been learnt that Mohammad Irfan Jr had requested Abdul Rehman – the Southern Punjab coach – for a place in the first XI but he did not accept it. The bowler said he will not play any form cricket from now onwards but will consider playing if got a chance in the Pakistan Super League.

    I will not beg the PCB for help and will earn my livelihood by farming and a sports shop, Mohammad Irfan Jr said.

    http://dunyanews.tv/en/Cricket/56466...ewell-cricket/
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    Upcoming players really need to leave this self entitlement attitude which they have learnt from some seniors. When you are a professional in any field these kind of things do happen, no point is being so disappointed that you decide to leave things rather better and positive attitude would be to improve your skills and show your capabilities in the opportunities you are given.

    He was one of the very few bowlers in Pakistan to get opportunities in PSL in two-three teams, if I am not wrong he played for Pak A as well. He still has the opportunity to play for second xi and impress the main team's coach. When there are 6 teams not every player can play in the first xi unless you are a proven performer at any level which he clearly is not.

    Yes Moh Abbas playing in National T20 is questionable in my opinion but, even him not playing wouldnt have given Irfan Jnr a chance as Dilbar Hussain has shown better arsenal for T20s.
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    Great news if true don't need people with an attitude like this, plus he's an awful bowler too.
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    Instead of giving up, he should go and play for 2nd xi, perform there extraordinarily, then make a strong case for the first xi.
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    Well if hes got this kind of attitude then he shouldn't play anywaiz. Work hard on your game perform in second xI u will get chance in first xI
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khan12 View Post
    Great news if true don't need people with an attitude like this, plus he's an awful bowler too.
    What came first, chicken or the egg? It can also be seen as bad news - itís bad news that he has an attitude like this, and therefore is an awful bowler!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    What came first, chicken or the egg? It can also be seen as bad news - it’s bad news that he has an attitude like this, and therefore is an awful bowler!
    Got my wording wrong. But he's an awful bowler, to say the least. It's got nothing to do with his attitude it only eliminates a rubbish bowler with no future for Pakistan. He used to end up getting hit the most sixes in PSL whenever he played. Can't stand the right-handed version of Tanvir. 6"6 and you copy Tanvir you don't deserve to play cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khan12 View Post
    Got my wording wrong. But he's an awful bowler, to say the least. It's got nothing to do with his attitude it only eliminates a rubbish bowler with no future for Pakistan. He used to end up getting hit the most sixes in PSL whenever he played. Can't stand the right-handed version of Tanvir. 6"6 and you copy Tanvir you don't deserve to play cricket.
    Yeah with that height and heís only 25 (on paper). Itís really sad to see someone like that go, but perhaps for the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    Yeah with that height and he’s only 25 (on paper). It’s really sad to see someone like that go, but perhaps for the best.
    I don't care how good a player with this attitude you don't deserve to play. Plus whenever I have seen him play he's been awful.

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    Pays for the second eleven will have to improve to prevent things like this from happening

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Pays for the second eleven will have to improve to prevent things like this from happening
    He was promoted last year also so should have stayed on.

    Emotional decision and at a time when many others do not have a proper income, could prove to be a hasty and ill thought one as well


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    Apparently Sami Aslam has also left the tournament. I don't regard him as a T20 tournament but how did Imran Farhat get selected for the first XI?. Imran didn't play T20 cricket in the old system in the recent years.

    38 year old Muhammad Irfan senior was struggling badly when I last saw him bowl in the PSL but he gets picked ahead of Irfan jr. It is all because of conflict of interest that head coach of SP is also part of Multan Sultan team management.

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    There is another report - He has signed a contract with Aus club, he does not want to sign the central contract.

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    Players are making playing in 2nd xi a big ego issue, I am not sure if they dont like the word second xi or something else. Players in county cricket and Sheffield shield play for 2nd xis without an issue. Yes one can question few selections but it isnít happening for the first time.

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    This is very sad.
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    Let all these Primadonas go. Don’t need trash players who think they are too good to be 2nd XI players. We’ve seen what Irfan Khan Jr has to offer in the PSL. It was questionable that he got a contract considering his mediocre pace and full toss issues.

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    Why not do well in the 2nd XI and give the selectors no choice other than to promote him to the 1st XI.



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    If we go by stats than some can question that did he deserve to be even in the 2nd XI.

    Played 4 matches for Southern Punjab second XI national T20 cup and took 5 wickets at an avg of 27.96 and economy of 9.27.

    He should have been glad that he was selected even in the second XI to show any improvements let alone arguing about why he didnt got promoted.

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    In comparison another guy Mohammad Imran from Southern Punjab who is 23 and is a pretty decent young pacer was second highest wicket taker in national T20 second XI took 13 wickets in 7 matches @16 and an economy of 7.70.

    We dont see him having issues with a much stronger case to get in the main XI.


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    this is why dept cricket was so important, to stoke egos of fragile pakistani cricketers who'd rather play for a random barely first class standard xi than show up for a similar level team with second xi in the name.

    the format of the domestic tournaments is having the desired results. these guys realise that these first class teams are gonna be seriously competitive to get into in the long run, so just trying to finesse their exits. no loss to pak cricket

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    6 Teams based on Regions are not enough. 6 Teams cannot accommodate the talent available in Pakistan.

    8 can...

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    Quote Originally Posted by unemployedgm View Post
    6 Teams based on Regions are not enough. 6 Teams cannot accommodate the talent available in Pakistan.

    8 can...
    He is not talented at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by unemployedgm View Post
    6 Teams based on Regions are not enough. 6 Teams cannot accommodate the talent available in Pakistan.

    8 can...
    Dont forget the 6 2nd XIs which makes them 12 teams which are surely enough to catch any excess talent. Yes stats of 2nd XI are not counted in FC stats but they are surely recognized to promote someone to the first XI during the same year or the next. Zeeshan Ashraf is one example who with good 2nd xi stats last year not only got promoted to the main team but, also got PSL contract with MS.

    There are around 180 players in 6 squads, if you are talented enough surely you will make it.

    Ego and self entitlement attitude when you dont even have good stats in the 2nd xi tournament dont make a solid enough point to have more main teams just to satisfy egos of some players.

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    A picture is worth a thousand words.


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    Quote Originally Posted by unemployedgm View Post
    6 Teams based on Regions are not enough. 6 Teams cannot accommodate the talent available in Pakistan.

    8 can...
    He is now an umemployedplayer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Dont forget the 6 2nd XIs which makes them 12 teams which are surely enough to catch any excess talent. Yes stats of 2nd XI are not counted in FC stats but they are surely recognized to promote someone to the first XI during the same year or the next. Zeeshan Ashraf is one example who with good 2nd xi stats last year not only got promoted to the main team but, also got PSL contract with MS.

    There are around 180 players in 6 squads, if you are talented enough surely you will make it.

    Ego and self entitlement attitude when you dont even have good stats in the 2nd xi tournament dont make a solid enough point to have more main teams just to satisfy egos of some players.
    Exactly. Need to back the system as well. Doesnít look good for players to be rebellious against their board trying to do a new initiative and that too backed by a PM who is the greatest legend of the game in the country.

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    Unfortunate loss. Expect more to follow.

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    Irfan jr signed a contract with Aus Club
    Rameez jr signed a contract with a club in America

    Do these clubs pay more than the domestic cricket?

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    This why I feel domestic packages need to be lot more

    Match fee of first class 1.5 lacs
    Match fee of 3 day cricket 80,000
    List A- 80,000
    List A 2nd XI-50,000
    Same fee for T20 cricket

    Rs 15,000 match fee is peanut for cricketers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shah_1 View Post
    This why I feel domestic packages need to be lot more

    Match fee of first class 1.5 lacs
    Match fee of 3 day cricket 80,000
    List A- 80,000
    List A 2nd XI-50,000
    Same fee for T20 cricket

    Rs 15,000 match fee is peanut for cricketers.
    Overall it increases by 18.2 cr, it is around $1.08 million. Surely it is worth it

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    Quote Originally Posted by shah_1 View Post
    This why I feel domestic packages need to be lot more

    Match fee of first class 1.5 lacs
    Match fee of 3 day cricket 80,000
    List A- 80,000
    List A 2nd XI-50,000
    Same fee for T20 cricket

    Rs 15,000 match fee is peanut for cricketers.
    I agree but, even a D category player (Only 24 are there) with monthly retainer of 40-50 k can earn more than 1mln PKR in a year even if he plays all the matches even for second XI team.

    Yes more money PCB puts in the better but I dont think the latest pay structure is bad by any means if we compare it to the packages of before. If a player performs well he can jump up the categories and can be potentially earning upwards of 2-3 mln. Yes surely it can be improved further.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shah_1 View Post
    Overall it increases by 18.2 cr, it is around $1.08 million. Surely it is worth it
    Definitely and I am pretty sure its gonna be improving in years to come.

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    Welcome to Pakistan cricket, where third rate medium paced club level bowlers like Irfan Jr think they are Malcolm Marshall.

    Surely the sensible thing to do would be to work hard in the 2XI team and push for a spot in the First XI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loralai View Post
    Welcome to Pakistan cricket, where third rate medium paced club level bowlers like Irfan Jr think they are Malcolm Marshall.

    Surely the sensible thing to do would be to work hard in the 2XI team and push for a spot in the First XI?
    This is exactly why you start to see the pov of Wasim Khan and PCB. We have the PIA situation where everyone feels entitled to a job and no one wants to improve.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shah_1 View Post
    This why I feel domestic packages need to be lot more

    Match fee of first class 1.5 lacs
    Match fee of 3 day cricket 80,000
    List A- 80,000
    List A 2nd XI-50,000
    Same fee for T20 cricket

    Rs 15,000 match fee is peanut for cricketers.
    Hopefully situation will improve and packages will be better in coming years.

    Moreover, i believe match fees of List A should always be slightly higher than that of t20s.

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    He is a decent bowler, not a show stopper, so needs to fight back with his performance, rather than silly statements in the media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    This is exactly why you start to see the pov of Wasim Khan and PCB. We have the PIA situation where everyone feels entitled to a job and no one wants to improve.
    Lol this is the legacy of department cricket which Imran Khan told the cricketers as well that the departments ended up making the players complacent who felt no need or pressure to improve and grow because they were getting a monthly handout from the departments for not doing anything.

    We have already seen the likes of Javed Miandad do the same thing in the PCB for 6 years and he still to this day sees nothing wrong with it

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    he is a rubbish bowler anyways and way old.

    lucky he even had a second 11 contract


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    A sensible approach would have been to speak to the coach and ask for ideas to improve his bowling and routes into the 1st X1. Throwing the toys out of the pram isn't going to help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shah_1 View Post
    Irfan jr signed a contract with Aus Club
    Rameez jr signed a contract with a club in America

    Do these clubs pay more than the domestic cricket?
    maybe its not just the money, potential to relocate and settle abroad might play a role too.

    fwiw as long as its lower tier players like irfan and rameez moving, i dont think pcb will care too much. rameez is pbly on the verge of retirement anyway.

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    He will come back to his senses if he really wants to p!ay , an economy rste of 9 in t20s with not a good sr isnt good enough for him to claim thatbhe has been doing well. Time to work hard on his bowling.


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    meanwhile sami aslam also withdraws from playing in 2nd XI.

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    Good riddance. The system is starting to work. Need to week out players with this attitude.

    Also if reports are true and he has signed for a club in Aussie land. He will struggle to make ends meet there, then start driving for Uber. However it’ll be all good while he does it there, but shameful if he does it in Pakistan. Twisted priorities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shah_1 View Post
    Irfan jr signed a contract with Aus Club
    Rameez jr signed a contract with a club in America

    Do these clubs pay more than the domestic cricket?
    Rameez jr. has signed a 5 year contract with a local club in USA, he's officially 33 & his domestic numbers are below average,imo he has taken the correct decision, better for everyone. Replacing him with Asif Zakir is a poor decision though, should've been a youngster

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    A sensible approach would have been to speak to the coach and ask for ideas to improve his bowling and routes into the 1st X1. Throwing the toys out of the pram isn't going to help.
    That's to complicated for Pakistani players to ask for ways to improve

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrentDevil View Post
    Rameez jr. has signed a 5 year contract with a local club in USA, he's officially 33 & his domestic numbers are below average,imo he has taken the correct decision, better for everyone. Replacing him with Asif Zakir is a poor decision though, should've been a youngster
    Defo is a poor decision to have asif in the squad isnt he like 33+

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    He is the same bowler who was compared to great west indian fast bowlers at Pak passion few years ago and some posters were going crazy how good is he.

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    No one here knows what the guy could have been going through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shamaan View Post
    Defo is a poor decision to have asif in the squad isnt he like 33+
    He's 37

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrentDevil View Post
    He's 37
    Wow I fought we were supposedly get rid of these kind of players

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    A news site quoted Irfan Jr as saying: “They are playing new boys in the First XI and we are still in the lower eleven so it’s better that …. I have decided to leave all forms of cricket,”

    The first XI for Southern Punjab includes such "new boys" as Aamir Yamin, Bilawal Bhatti, Mohammad Abbas, Mohammad Irfan, and Rahat Ali. The only relatively younger players are Ali Shafiq and Mohammad Ilyas who I would view more as his contemporaries. And honestly all 3 of them are just average bowlers.

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    I like this 6 team system, it's getting rid of bad eggs by the dozens. Hopefully we get 6 strong teams that can play at an international level high standards.

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    Imagine someone like this playing for the Pakistan team, then being dropped from the team for whatever reason. What happens then?

    If he doesnít have the determination to make his way into the team for the first time, imagine how heíd react to the natural up and downs of a bowlerís career?

    I am sure there are many more hard working, intelligent youngsters ready to take his place ó he wasnít that exceptional to begin with.

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    There are positive and negative of this news.
    Positive news is he is a rubbish player but negative news is Irfan Sr is even worse.
    We need quality young players and get rid of useless old players.
    Players should be selected base on merit not personal preference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cric_4life View Post
    He is the same bowler who was compared to great west indian fast bowlers at Pak passion few years ago and some posters were going crazy how good is he.
    Care to explain?

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    Minor League Cricket

    The weekend also saw the Prairieview Cricket complex holding its first MiLC game; one of the largest cricket facilities in the USA. With the matches played on turf, the venue saw some high quality cricket in its opening encounter when the Houston Hurricanes took on the Austin Athletics. Despite the scintillating hundred from the former Pakistan batsman Ramiz Raja jr, the day was carried by Ali Samad's magnificent 57 off 35 balls in a steep chase of 170.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    Imagine someone like this playing for the Pakistan team, then being dropped from the team for whatever reason. What happens then?
    Didn't Misbah say he burned his kit after being dropped from the Pakistan team in 2010?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varun View Post
    Didn't Misbah say he burned his kit after being dropped from the Pakistan team in 2010?
    Exactly our coaches are the worst example to follow or listen to them. May be he should thereat PCB to burn his kit just like Misbah and Younis.

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    Too greener pastures by the looks of it.


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    Sami Aslam is an A grade rondu.

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    dont know what level western play at but seems like a good move, you aint getting chances in pakistan he can better his career in Aus, was never going to make the national team anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angrypathan View Post
    Sami Aslam is an A grade rondu.
    Is he that timid young opener play with turtle pace?

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    Wish him the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentkiller187 View Post
    dont know what level western play at but seems like a good move, you aint getting chances in pakistan he can better his career in Aus, was never going to make the national team anyway.
    If someone isn't getting chances in Aus they'll get eaten alive down under. There's no room for entitlement and comfort zones in the Aussie set up. Good luck to him either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitthestump View Post
    If someone isn't getting chances in Aus they'll get eaten alive down under. There's no room for entitlement and comfort zones in the Aussie set up. Good luck to him either way.
    I think he is looking for citizenship cricket won't be his number one priority...

    Sami Aslam on the other is being annoying tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by silentkiller187 View Post
    dont know what level western play at but seems like a good move, you aint getting chances in pakistan he can better his career in Aus, was never going to make the national team anyway.
    The aim is not to make the top levels of Australian cricket.

    The aim is to have A steady even if low income on which he can get by and then stay long enough to gain Australian citizenship

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    My enduring memory of Irfan jr is being hit for four consecutive sixes by KP. Obv no shame though. Better bowlers have been taken to the cleaners by KP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slog View Post
    The aim is not to make the top levels of Australian cricket.

    The aim is to have A steady even if low income on which he can get by and then stay long enough to gain Australian citizenship
    agreed seems like a sensible move if hes not getting anywhere in the PAK setup. Low grade cricket in Aus would still probably provide more then the domestic setup back home.

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    Good move by him

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    Wish him luck. Surely he knew he didnt have much chance in international cricket or even in T20 leagues much. So club cricket in Aus is a decent occupation for mid tier cricketers who know that they cant make it to the next level.

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    Thank God!!!!!

    Rubbish bowler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bullet Drive View Post
    Thank God!!!!!

    Rubbish bowler.
    Lol. Exactly.

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    Good decision by him also saves pcb from making the decision themselves

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    He should be punished for this ridiculous behaviour

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    Always thought he was a club level bowler anyway. That attitude isn't going to get him anywhere.

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    Akhtar made a very thought provoking point today where he was like i was rejected by all the regions and by 6-7 departments and even when PIA accepted me and Saqlain, we were surviving on Rs 100 a day and were living in squalid conditions, does this mean we just give up and not try to play for Pakistan.

    Probably an extreme example, inflation and cost of living and wages today in Pakistan can't be compared to the 80's and 90's but the PCB should look to improve the pays, perks of cricket being played lower down the tier to prevent cricketers from leaving.

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    Mr Irfan jr is going to realize the hard way that he was still in some ways lucky to be playing and living in Pakistan where average performances tend to be tolerated. He has now moved to a high performance culture where he will be under pressure to perform because trust me, if he doesn't the club he has signed for will not hesitate to terminate him as there are no emotional sentiments in the West when it comes to hiring and firing decisions

    It reminds me of the Zimbabwe cricketer Andy Blignautt who was on top of his game for Zimbabwe in 2002 to 2004, he quit Zimbabwe Cricket to move to Australia where he signed for a club side hoping to make it big over there but he just disappeared into oblivion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Akhtar made a very thought provoking point today where he was like i was rejected by all the regions and by 6-7 departments and even when PIA accepted me and Saqlain, we were surviving on Rs 100 a day and were living in squalid conditions, does this mean we just give up and not try to play for Pakistan.

    Probably an extreme example, inflation and cost of living and wages today in Pakistan can't be compared to the 80's and 90's but the PCB should look to improve the pays, perks of cricket being played lower down the tier to prevent cricketers from leaving.
    Whatever Akhtar says, you need to discount it by 90% to get the true picture.


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