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    Quote Originally Posted by CricketCartoons View Post
    Have you read the laws? I remember you coming to some interesting conclusions about the essential commodity act and wondering what will people eat if something is declared non essential.
    i am not even talking about my understanding of the laws here. I am saying if the central govt is so sure about the new laws then they should enforce it just like they enforce their will in Kashmir.

    I think my objections at that time were more about declaring certain items as non-essential.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow View Post
    Do you even know what are you talking about? Mandi system has MSP (Minimum Support Price), if farmers get no outside buyers, they can sell at MSP to govt. and they will buy it from farmers. It acts like a minimum wage for farmers. Honestly, there aren't many rich farmers left, 85% of farmers have less than 5 acres of land.

    The so Mandi system was taken out in Bihar in 2006, you will see farmer condition there, where their clothes are torn. Average income of farmer is Rs.3800 compared to 13,000 in Punjab.

    You don't really make these changes without doing detailed studies, you can't play with life of farmers, oh yeah on paper it might look good. Look at what happened with Demonetization.
    Has MSP and APMC been abolished?

    Do farmers provide minimum wage to their labourers?

    Does govt provide minimum wage for doctors or engineers or lawyers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    i am not even talking about my understanding of the laws here. I am saying if the central govt is so sure about the new laws then they should enforce it just like they enforce their will in Kashmir.

    I think my objections at that time were more about declaring certain items as non-essential.
    The term non-essential has different meaning in the law, and it was a long pending demand of economists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CricketCartoons View Post
    The term non-essential has different meaning in the law, and it was a long pending demand of economists.
    Fair enough. But just because i dont remember what i said last time

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    If sikhs in london are angry,how does it matter to India?

    You know Sikhs made it sure that partition was complete in Punjab, almost no muslim population left in Indian punjab.
    So you agree that opinions of NRI's don't matter? @Romali_rotti

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhaag Viru Bhaag View Post
    Some hindus are not even shying away from calling these sikh farmers 'Khalistanis'. Lots of muslims on the other hand were giving these farmers food and winter clothes. I guess one minority understands the pain of another minority in India.
    There are enough Hindus especially some very prominent sportspersons from Haryana who are supporting the protest.

    Farmers form Haryana have opened their homes and their hearts with free milk and food coming to the protest from Haryana.

    The Modi bhakts of course as witnessed in this thread itself cannot help being communal **** stirrers.

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    Haryana- Punjab solidarity during the farmer protest.

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    Is that Yuvraj Singh's dad?

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    New Delhi, India – Tens of thousands of Indian farmers camping on the outskirts of the capital city, New Delhi, for more than a week have launched a “Bharat Bandh” (nationwide general strike) to demand the scrapping of three farm laws they say will hurt their livelihood and benefit only corporations.

    Farmer leaders say the laws are pro-corporate and will gradually lead to the government withdrawing the current guaranteed price mechanism under which it buys agricultural produce from farmers.

    Prime Minister Narendra Modi has defended the three laws passed in September, saying they will boost private investment in the moribund agriculture sector and boost farm income.

    Thousands of farmers, mostly from the “grain bowl of India” in the northern states of Haryana and Punjab, have blocked three key highways linking Delhi to neighbouring states and refuse to move until the government accepts their demands.

    It is not just Punjab and Haryana that have farmers unhappy with these laws. “Protest against the farm laws are going in every state,” Hannan Mollah, a Communist Party of India (Marxist) leader and general secretary of the All India Kisan Sabha, told Al Jazeera.

    Farmer associations and trade unions from other regions have joined the agitation and opposition parties declared their support for one of the biggest protests in decades.

    “As many as 475 unions of farmers from all the states and union territories have supported the call for the Bharat Bandh,” said Darshan Pal, a farmer leader who has participated in talks with the government.

    “We have given this call for shutdown to put more pressure on the government and we the farmers’ organisations are hopeful that the government will accept our demands and revoke the laws.”

    Roads and rail lines were blocked across the country despite deployment of police in Delhi and other parts of the country.

    The governing Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) accused opposition parties of opportunism, while Delhi Chief Minister Arvind Kejriwal’s Aam Aadmi party (Common Man Party) claimed the Delhi chief minister had been placed “under house arrest” to prevent him from joining the protests. Kejriwal visited Singhu protest site near Delhi border on Monday.

    ‘Revoke the laws’
    Five rounds of talks between the government and representatives of the farmers have failed to break the deadlock as farmers refuse to accept anything less than the scrapping of the three laws and assurances of a guaranteed minimum support price for their produce.

    The government has so far stood its ground, saying the new laws will “liberate” farmers from the tyranny of middlemen.

    Nalin Kohli, spokesman for the governing Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), believes talks will resolve the biggest crisis facing Modi.

    “Senior ministers from the government have been meeting representatives and leaders to allay their fears and find a solution,” he told Al Jazeera.

    However, as Sansar Singh, a farmer from Punjab, says: “We don’t want any discussion on the amendment of the three laws, we are here simply to convey to Narendra Modi to revoke the laws. There is no politics in it, we feel the laws are going to benefit corporates and not poor farmers like us.”

    India’s agriculture sector, which employs more than half of India’s 1.4 billion people, has been facing a crisis, driving thousands of debt-ridden farmers to take their own lives.

    The protesters have other demands, one being that the government stop fining farmers for clearing their fields by burning the stubble left behind by their wheat crops – considered the main source of air pollution in Delhi during the winter months – arguing that the government should subsidise the clearing of fields or stop fining the burning. They also want the withdrawal of this year’s Electricity Bill, which they fear will push power bills higher.

    “This anger that we see now is basically a culmination of what has happened in the past… being channelised against the central laws that have been brought in,” said Devinder Sharma, a food security analyst.
    “The anger is primarily because agriculture has been denied its rightful income all these years. The loud messages from this movement is that farmers are actually crying for an assured price.”

    Delhi border blocked
    Satbir Singh, 60, left his home in Faridkot district of Punjab two weeks ago to take part in the protests in New Delhi.

    It took him and thousands of other Punjabi farmers two days to cover the distance of about 370km (230 miles), which normally takes six hours, as police in Haryana state – which they had to pass through and is governed by Modi’s BJP – set up roadblocks and fired tear gas and water cannon to try to stop them.

    Since November 26, Singh, along with thousands of other farmers, has been at Tikiri on the Delhi-Haryana border, where hundreds of police and Rapid Action Force (RAF) personnel have cut off the road with metal barricades, cement blocks and several bulldozers. Riot control vehicles are stationed at the site.

    It is easy to tell that the farmers also mean business, and they are settling in for the long haul.

    They sleep in hundreds of trolleys attached to tractors lined up on the highway for several kilometres and eat food prepared in hundreds of “langars” (open kitchens) by volunteers.
    A makeshift stage has been erected for speakers while the farmers – men and women of all ages – sit on mats to listen.

    In light of the coronavirus pandemic gripping India and the world, volunteers offer free masks to protesters while doctors from Punjab have set up free medical camps for the agitating farmers.

    The scene at the Singhu and Ghazipur borders, two other main protest sites, is no different.

    “We will continue to protest unless the government accepts our demands,” said 60-year-old Singh, as he prepared food for himself in a tractor-trolley.

    Singh has been growing rice and wheat on his family’s 3.2-hectare (eight acres) plot and believes the laws will have a huge impact on his livelihood, saying: “Modi government has to bend… We will not leave unless our demands are fulfilled.”

    He added that protesting is costing them dearly, but that they would continue their stance against the “black laws”.

    The contribution of agriculture has been dwindling over the years, with successive governments failing to address the problems facing the sector, which contributes nearly 15 percent to the country’s $2.9-trillion economy.

    ‘This government doesn’t care’
    Leaders from the ruling party, including Modi, have dismissed the concerns raised by farmers, saying the farmers have been misled by opposition parties, which in turn have accused Modi of working to benefit corporations.

    The government says the existing farm markets, or “mandis”, benefit middlemen and prevent farmers from getting better prices in the private market.

    But analysts and farmer leaders warn that, at a time of unprecedented economic decline, leaving the farmers at the mercy of market forces may not work and the government should support the agriculture sector which underpins India’s food security.

    India’s economy has plunged into its worst recession in nearly 30 years due to the effect of the coronavirus pandemic, with gross domestic product (GDP) contracting by 7.5 percent and recovery expected to take time.

    “The private market system which the government is trying to create through these laws will give benefits to farmers in the first few years because they would be exempted from taxes which would lead to increase in prices of crops,” said farmer Kanwaljeet Singh, 37.

    “But once farmers stop going to the APMC mandis, the private players will control everything. Whatever price they will offer, a farmer will have to sell its produce,” he told Al Jazeera.

    “The government should have first discussed these laws in detail with agriculture experts, farmer leaders and try to find out what impact these laws are going to have and then take a decision accordingly,”

    “But this government doesn’t care.”

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/...ainst-new-laws


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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    BTW the person who took this iconic picture was attacked by a group men in government vehicles.

    PTI photojournalist, who clicked iconic 'Kisan v Jawan' photo, allegedly attacked by men in 'sarkari' vehicle

    https://www.freepressjournal.in/indi...arkari-vehicle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madplayer View Post
    How can someone support this is beyond me. An elderly farmer being abused by security forces. Indian PPers, wake up!!!!! Nationalism is great but not when it is taking rights of millions. Be a human being for once.

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    I know this issue is not just a Sikh thing and effects farmers of all religions but I have to say
    I have a lot of respect for the Sikh community. Hopefully things get better for their kin back home. And hopefully Muslims support them in India.

    I know historically things did not go well between us and them in the subcontinent, but I wish circumstances were different

    I've always been impressed with their reactions to tough situations abroad. In several instances where illiterates and racists attack a prominent Sikh in public for being a"islamic terrorist". Examples are nav Bhatia or jagmeet Singh in Canada. They never respond with "oh I'm Sikh, that's a different thing, I'm not muslim, go after them instead"...they responded with solidarity against the hate.

    Not to mention many innocent Sikhs died as well post 9/11 xenophobia mistaken as Muslim.

    All the power to these farmers!

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    Fifth generation cyber warriors from both sides of border are the dumbest in the world

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    New Delhi, India – Indian farmer unions have rejected the latest proposal by the government to amend controversial new farm laws and have warned they will intensify their protests if their demands are not met.

    The warning on Wednesday came just hours after the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) government sent a written proposal to farmer unions, laying out a series of amendments including written assurances for Minimum Support Price (MSP), one of the key demands of protesting farmers.

    The other assurances from the government included the scrapping of the Electricity Amendment Bill opposed by farmers and allowing them to go to court in case of disputes.

    India’s Agriculture Minister Narendra Singh Tomar also said in a tweet on Wednesday the Agricultural Produce Market Committee (APMC) Mandis – a government-regulated agriculture market system – will not be dismantled.

    But the farmers rejected the proposals outright and called them an “insult”.

    “We have unanimously rejected the government’s proposal. It’s nowhere close to what we have been demanding. This is an insult to us,” farmer leader Jagmohan Singh told Al Jazeera over the phone from the Singhu border.

    “Our demand is complete revocation of the three laws. We don’t want amendments,” he said.

    Farmers say the three farm laws passed by Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s government, which deregulate crop pricing, will hurt their livelihoods and will only benefit large corporations.

    The farmer unions have called for countrywide protests on Monday and have threatened to block the New Delhi-Jaipur and New Delhi-Agra highways on Saturday.

    “If the government does not accept our demands, we will intensify our protest and will block more highways leading to the capital city,” Singh added.

    On Tuesday, the protesting farmers launched a nationwide general strike to demand the scrapping of the controversial farm laws.

    Thousands of farmers, mostly from the state of Punjab and Haryana – known as India’s grain bowl – have blocked key highways linking New Delhi to neighbouring states for more than two weeks.

    The leaders of the BJP, including Modi, have defended the laws, saying they will boost private investment in the agriculture sector and raise farm income.

    Five opposition leaders belonging to different political parties met India’s President Ram Nath Kovind to discuss the issue on Wednesday.

    They have lent their support to the farmers and said they told the president the laws should be revoked.

    Opposition leader and former Congress President Rahul Gandhi told reporters after meeting Kovind that it had been unacceptable to pass the bills without any consultation with farmers or the opposition.

    “The way these bills have been passed we see it as an insult to our farmers,” he said.

    “The farmers have lost faith in the government and they believe that the government is not acting in their interests that is why [thousands] of them are on the streets.”


    “We informed the president that it’s absolutely critical that these bills are taken back.”

    Deadlock
    Six rounds of talks have so far been held between the government and the farmer unions but the deadlock continues.

    A group of farmers’ representatives met India’s Home Minister Amit Shah on Tuesday evening but that meeting also failed as the farmers stuck to their demands.

    A meeting between farmer leaders and government ministers scheduled for Wednesday in New Delhi was cancelled by farmers.

    A spokesperson for the BJP, Syed Zafar Islam, told Al Jazeera the talks are the only way to resolve the dispute.

    “We have always worked for their welfare of the farmers and we will continue to work for their welfare,” he said.

    “We appeal to the farmers to maintain calm and peace and this issue will definitely get resolved through discussion and talks.”

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    A delegation of opposition parties including Congress leader Rahul Gandhi, CPI(M) general secretary Sitaram Yechury and NCP (Nationalist Congress Party) chief Sharad Pawar met President Ram Nath Kovind on Wednesday, demanding roll back of three farm laws passed by Parliament recently.

    Calling it an “anti-farmer” laws, Congress leader Rahul Gandhi slammed the Centre for passing the laws without consulting with the opposition parties and the farmers. Gandhi pointed out that the way the bills were passed is an “insult to farmers” who are out on the streets, protesting in cold weather.

    “The manner in which these three bills were passed, without any discussion, without any conversation with the opposition parties and certainly without a discussion with the farmers of this country, who have built India, is an insult to the kisans (farmers) of this country,” Gandhi said. The Congress leader was addressing the media after his meeting with the President over the farm laws.

    The delegation leaders said that they have urged the President to take back the laws. Gandhi said that the farmer no longer believes in the government’s intention. “The kisan (farmer) has lost faith in the government. The kisan does not believe that the government is acting in their interest and that is why lakhs of them are on the streets, non-violently and compassionately. They are struggling in cold weather with complete respect. So, we have informed the President that it is absolutely critical that these bills are taken back,” he added.

    The five-member delegation of opposition leaders that met the President on Wednesday also included CPI general secretary D Raja and DMK leader TKS Elangovan.

    Taking a dig at Prime Minister Narendra Modi, Gandhi alleged that the true agenda of the three farm laws is to “handover India’s agriculture system to PM’s friends”. “Our prime minister said that these bills are for the benefit of our farmer, if that’s true, then why are they (farmers) on the streets? Why is the farmer so angry? Because the true agenda of the three farm bills is to handover India’s agriculture system to prime minister’s friends, and the kisan is very well aware of this,” the former Congress chief said. “Nobody can stand in front of a farmer’s strength. The government should have no misunderstanding that the farmers will move, will get scared because India’s farmers will not move until these bills are taken back,” he added.

    Earlier today, the farmer unions rejected the proposal sent by the Centre to end the protests over the agri laws and said that they will block the Delhi-Jaipur national highway by December 12 and hold demonstrations protesting the farm laws in several parts of the country on December 14.

    Rahul Gandhi urged the farmers to not be afraid and assured complete support of opposition parties. “Government should have no misconception. Our farmers will not compromise because they know that if they compromise today, then they will have no future in the country. And I am telling this to our farmers, that if you do not stand up today, then you will be silenced forever, and we are standing with you. You are Hindustan,” the Congress leader said at the end of press conference.

    Thousands of farmers have been protesting at various borders in and around Delhi against the new agriculture laws since November 26. The three farm laws which were passed in September have been projected by the Centre as major reforms in the agriculture sector that will help remove the middlemen and give farmers the right to sell their produce anywhere in the country.

    However, the protesting farmers have said that the new farm laws will take away the Minimum Support Price (MSP) and the mandis, giving power to big corporates.

    https://www.hindustantimes.com/india...5kIs66YQL.html
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    That moment when you’re utterly clueless about what’s going on

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    Prime Minister Boris Johnson on Wednesday was asked about the farmers’ agitation in India in the House of Commons, and apparently incorrectly viewing the issue as one between India and Pakistan, told the House of Commons that it is a matter for the two governments to settle.

    Johnson was asked during Prime Minister’s Question Time by Labour MP Tanmanjeet Singh Dhesi if he could convey anxieties in the UK about images of police action against the protesting farmers in and around New Delhi to Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

    Dhesi said: “Many constituents, especially those emanating from the Punjab and other parts of India, and I were horrified to see footage of water cannons, teargas and brute force being used against peacefully protesting farmers.”

    “However, it was heart-warming to see those very farmers feeding those forces who had been ordered to beat or suppress them…what indomitable spirit…it takes a special kind of people to do that”.

    “So will the prime minister convey to the Indian prime minister our heart-felt anxieties, our hopes for a speedy resolution to the current deadlock, and does he agree that everyone has the fundamental right to peaceful protest”, he asked.

    Johnson responded: “Of course, Mr Speaker, and our views as the honourable gentleman knows well, of course, we have serious concerns about what is happening between India and Pakistan but these are pre-eminently matters for those two governments to settle and I know that he appreciates that point”.

    The exchange came days after the Foreign Office refused to comment on the farmers’ agitation, when its spokesperson said: “The police handling of protests are a matter for the Government of India.”

    Dhesi later tweeted: “The world is watching, issue is a huge one with hundreds of thousands protesting globally (including in London, reported on by BBC) and the usual Boris Johnson bluff and bluster heaps further embarrassment onto our nation. Absolutely clueless! So disappointed with his response...But it might help if our PM actually knew what he was talking about!”

    Dhesi last week coordinated a letter signed by 36 MPs from various parties to foreign secretary Dominic Raab, asking him to raise the farmers’ issue with the Indian government. A protest demonstration was held outside the Indian high commission in Aldwych on Sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post


    That moment when you’re utterly clueless about what’s going on
    What a fool. The English Trump.

    Mr. Dhesi couldn't believe what he was hearing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdullah719 View Post


    That moment when you’re utterly clueless about what’s going on
    Yes, That Dhesi guy is clueless. He doesn't understand that neither he or the British PM have any right to interfere in another country's affairs.

    Someone tell him that British parliament stopped having any power over India after 1947.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhenSultansBowled View Post
    What a fool. The English Trump.

    Mr. Dhesi couldn’t believe what he was hearing


    Poor guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Yes, That Dhesi guy is clueless. He doesn't understand that neither he or the British PM have any right to interfere in another country's affairs.

    Someone tell him that British parliament stopped having any power over India after 1947.
    Didn’t your Modi try to meddle in US elections?

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.scr...or-re-election

    Countries express solidarity with democratic protesters all over the world. Even Indian had done that. Thats why we gave refuge to Tibetans, Bangladeshis, SriLankan Tamils etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dingolfy View Post
    Didn’t your Modi try to meddle in US elections?

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.scr...or-re-election

    Countries express solidarity with democratic protesters all over the world. Even Indian had done that. Thats why we gave refuge to Tibetans, Bangladeshis, SriLankan Tamils etc.
    From the article you posted


    Here are his exact words: “Friends, we in India have connected well with President Trump, the words of candidate Trump, ‘Ab ki baar, Trump sarkar.’”

    One could argue that Modi was simply referring to Trump’s candidacy back in 2016, when, in an ad aimed at the Indian-American population, used the same words.


    So Trump copied Modi's election campaign slogan.

    Expressing solidarity and asking the UK PM to talk to the Indian one are two different things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    From the article you posted


    Here are his exact words: “Friends, we in India have connected well with President Trump, the words of candidate Trump, ‘Ab ki baar, Trump sarkar.’”

    One could argue that Modi was simply referring to Trump’s candidacy back in 2016, when, in an ad aimed at the Indian-American population, used the same words.


    So Trump copied Modi's election campaign slogan.

    Expressing solidarity and asking the UK PM to talk to the Indian one are two different things.
    He was asking Americans of Indian origin to vote for the orange man. And whats wrong in asking UK PM to talk to Indian one? Thats how democracies work. We have done such things in the past to other countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dingolfy View Post
    He was asking Americans of Indian origin to vote for the orange man. And whats wrong in asking UK PM to talk to Indian one? Thats how democracies work. We have done such things in the past to other countries.
    No he was not. He was only referring to Trump's slogan from 2016, which was copied from Modi's.

    What locus standi does a foreign leader has to interfere into what laws are passed by indian parliament and how India handles the protest against it.

    Did the Indian PM talked to the UK one on how UK handles Brexit. Or how trump handles BLM? Unless a matter directly affects UK, they cant tell tye Indian govt how to do things in India.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Has MSP and APMC been abolished?

    Do farmers provide minimum wage to their labourers?

    Does govt provide minimum wage for doctors or engineers or lawyers?

    Maybe then they should look into looking minimum wage to them, doesn't mean they will throw farmers under bus. Already there are so many farmers are committing suicide.

    This bill was made for mota bhai and adanis, written in board room. No study done, no farmers organization involved. Maybe you should look into how it was passed in both of the houses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow View Post
    Maybe then they should look into looking minimum wage to them, doesn't mean they will throw farmers under bus. Already there are so many farmers are committing suicide.

    This bill was made for mota bhai and adanis, written in board room. No study done, no farmers organization involved. Maybe you should look into how it was passed in both of the houses.
    Which clauses favour the corporates over the farmers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CricketCartoons View Post
    Which clauses favour the corporates over the farmers?
    If this is such a good bill for farmers, why weren't they consulted at all? Why they didn't do a proper voting when opposition demanded it, but they were thrown outside of parliament. Why are they not happy about it? 250 million people who went to protest aren't idiots.

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    No he was not. He was only referring to Trump's slogan from 2016, which was copied from Modi's.

    What locus standi does a foreign leader has to interfere into what laws are passed by indian parliament and how India handles the protest against it.

    Did the Indian PM talked to the UK one on how UK handles Brexit. Or how trump handles BLM? Unless a matter directly affects UK, they cant tell tye Indian govt how to do things in India.
    Yeah, only ‘referring’ to slogan in a event in from of thousands of people. Lol.

    Where exactly did UK govt interfere? They just asked their PM to voice their concern. Just like how India did from SriLankan Tamils, Tibetans and Bangladeshis. Thats how democratic govts work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow View Post
    If this is such a good bill for farmers, why weren't they consulted at all? Why they didn't do a proper voting when opposition demanded it, but they were thrown outside of parliament. Why are they not happy about it? 250 million people who went to protest aren't idiots.
    I hear you. But can you point out the clauses which favour the corporates over the farmers. Like if the farmer has to pay fine if he wants to get out of any contract with corporate, or any example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snow View Post
    If this is such a good bill for farmers, why weren't they consulted at all? Why they didn't do a proper voting when opposition demanded it, but they were thrown outside of parliament. Why are they not happy about it? 250 million people who went to protest aren't idiots.
    250 million? Lol. Do you even realise what 250mn is?

    So everytime a law is passed, the government must consult millions of people?

    FYI Bjp has complete Majority in LS and is very close to majority in the RS, there was no chance of the opposition defeating the bills.

    Why are these farm leaders interested in getting delhi riots or bhima Koregaon riots accused out of jail?

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    "Conspiracy" Of China, Pakistan Behind Farmers' Protests: Union Minister

    Aurangabad: Union minister Raosaheb Danve on Wednesday claimed that China and Pakistan were behind the ongoing protests by farmers, who are seeking repeal of three new farm laws.

    He also alleged that Muslims were earlier misled over the Citizenship (Amendment) Act (CAA) and the National Register of Citizens (NRC), but as those efforts did not succeed, now farmers were being told that they will face losses due to the new laws.

    Mr Danve was speaking at the inauguration of a health centre at Kolte Takli in Badnapur taluka of Maharashtra's Jalna district.

    "The agitation that is going on is not that of farmers. China and Pakistan have a hand behind this. Muslims in this country were incited first. What was said (to them)? That NRC is coming, CAA is coming and Muslims will have to leave this country in six months. Did a single Muslim leave?" he questioned.

    "Those efforts didn't succeed and now farmers are being told that they will face losses. This is the conspiracy of other countries," Mr Danve said.

    The minister, however, did not elaborate on what basis he claimed that the two neighbouring countries are behind the farmers' protests.

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    Pakistan and China invoked by sanghis....So when will the surgical strikes be done on these 2 countries?

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    Hong Kong Indians have been collecting signatures in support of Indian farmers in the past two weekends. Apparently, they collected 1000 plus signatures this past Sunday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MP2011 View Post
    "Conspiracy" Of China, Pakistan Behind Farmers' Protests: Union Minister

    Aurangabad: Union minister Raosaheb Danve on Wednesday claimed that China and Pakistan were behind the ongoing protests by farmers, who are seeking repeal of three new farm laws.

    He also alleged that Muslims were earlier misled over the Citizenship (Amendment) Act (CAA) and the National Register of Citizens (NRC), but as those efforts did not succeed, now farmers were being told that they will face losses due to the new laws.

    Mr Danve was speaking at the inauguration of a health centre at Kolte Takli in Badnapur taluka of Maharashtra's Jalna district.

    "The agitation that is going on is not that of farmers. China and Pakistan have a hand behind this. Muslims in this country were incited first. What was said (to them)? That NRC is coming, CAA is coming and Muslims will have to leave this country in six months. Did a single Muslim leave?" he questioned.

    "Those efforts didn't succeed and now farmers are being told that they will face losses. This is the conspiracy of other countries," Mr Danve said.

    The minister, however, did not elaborate on what basis he claimed that the two neighbouring countries are behind the farmers' protests.
    It was expected, may PPers called it.

    Vintage India, blame everything on Pakistan and case closed
    The minister, however, did not elaborate on what basis he claimed that the two neighbouring countries are behind the farmers' protests.
    He doesn't need to. 'Pakistan' is the magic word that gets you vote and makes you rich

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    ‘Govt has no ego’: Tomar appeals to farmer leaders to resume talks

    Agriculture minister Narendra Singh Tomar on Thursday appealed to farm unions to resume talks with the government, and asked them not to chalk out new plans to ramp up their agitation against three new laws that aim to liberalise the farm economy.

    Tomar, along with Union railway minister Piyush Goyal, said the government was open to further negotiations with the farm leaders to find a solution.

    “Any law is never entirely bad or good. Therefore, we have come out with amendments on provisions which during discussions the farmers had apprehensions about,” Tomar said.

    “The government has no ego. The government was, is and will always be open to dialogue,” Tomar said. He added that if farm unions raise specific issues on the laws, the government can work towards solutions.

    The government in September deregulated farm markets, giving more space to private traders, to spur investments in a farm sector dependent on subsidies. Thousands of farmers are protesting the changes, saying they will be swallowed up by big corporations

    On Wednesday, the government offered in writing concessions it was willing to make. It proposed giving states greater role in so-called free markets and a written assurance to continue the system of minimum support prices (MSP), which offers farmers state-set assured prices for staples.

    “We have addressed all issues that had come out of the discussions. There is nothing in the laws that can impact procurement at minimum support prices. The laws categorically state that there can be no lease or confiscation or auction of a farmer’s land,” Goyal said.

    The government has proposed to amend The Farmers’ Produce Trade and Commerce (Promotion and Facilitation) Act, 2020 to bring parity between so-called free markets and notified markets controlled by state governments

    Another key offer is to bring additional legal safeguards for farmers’ rights engaging in contract farming “if needed”, including a bar on any confiscation of farm land to recover dues, and possible immunity to farmers from penalties for crop-residue burning, which causes pollution.

    Tomar urged farmers not to call off discussions and said farmers should say if they had any objections to the government’s written proposal.

    Farmers on Wednesday rejected the proposal of the government to bring amendments, saying they were pretty much based on proposals farm unions had already rejected.

    “The government has avoided answering farmers opposition that farm laws help only corporates and MNCs, will increase farmers’ input costs, losses, debts and displacement from land,” said Yogendra Yadav of Swaraj India, which is spearheading the agitation under the umbrella platform All India Kisan Sangharsh Coordination Committee.

    Farm unions on Thursday said they would occupy toll plazas and block the Jaipur-Delhi Highway on December 12 and organise protests from December 14.

    Tens of thousands of farmers, mostly from Punjab, are protesting a set of pro-market agricultural laws by camping on Delhi’s borders. The farmers have stocked up on months of supplies, preparing to dig in for months.

    Goyal said a large number of farmers in several states have welcomed the laws. “The recent results to [panchayat] elections in Rajasthan make this clear,” Goyal said. The railways minister was referring to wins by the BJP in panchayat polls in Rajasthan, a Congress-ruled state.

    Goyal also said the new laws made local magistrates the final authority to settle disputes between traders and farmers in 30 days because the government’s view was that farmers may find it cumbersome to fight long-drawn court battles.

    Farm unions have opposed this provision. “That is why the government’s proposal on this is that amendments will be made to allow farmers to approach civil courts of their choice,” Goyal said.

    Tomar said the Modi government remains committed to the well-being of the farming community and had brought policies to increase farm incomes and raise the share of agriculture in the country’s gross domestic product.

    “These proposals do not address most of our concerns. Despite rejecting the government’s offer of amendments, it has rehashed the same proposals,” said Kirankumar Vissa of Rythu Swarajya Vedika, a farmer representative.

    The new laws allow businesses to freely trade farm produce outside the so-called government-controlled “mandi system”, permit private traders to stockpile large quantities of essential commodities for future sales and lay down new contract-farming rules.

    Experts said the agitation is the first “sustainted challenge” the government has faced. “These are the first sustained challenge the Modi government is facing at the ground level. An escalation will further put the Bharatiya Janata Party’s political limits to test,” said KK Kailash who teaches in the political science department of the University of Hyderabad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CricketCartoons View Post
    I hear you. But can you point out the clauses which favour the corporates over the farmers. Like if the farmer has to pay fine if he wants to get out of any contract with corporate, or any example.
    Can you trust this government how they passed this bill. It was so much rushed, by voice vote.
    How much they were fighting over MSP to be written into the bill? How farmers weren't able to get to courts? How food crops will not come under essential commodities act. you can't go to courts.

    Yes, they are ready to talk and make changes because farmers had to go to Dehli to make the noise. No one came to talk to them when they were protesting over 2 months in Punjab.

    These farmers aren't going to take anything pushed onto them. Maybe they would have agreed to most of it, if consulted. Things won't be looking good for BJP, those farmers are made of something else, they will be ready to wait till 2024 if needed.

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    The Bhartiya Kisan Union on Friday approached the Supreme Court against the three agriculture laws enacted by the government earlier this year, according to news agency ANI. The farmer’s union has alleged that the new laws will make them vulnerable to corporate greed.

    The move comes two days after farmers’ unions rejected the Centre’s proposal by saying there was nothing new in the proposal and that they were going to continue their protest against the agricultural laws that liberalise farm trade. The farmers agitating near the national capital have called for a nationwide protest on December 14 and said that they will block the Delhi-Jaipur national highway by December 12.


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    On November 26, tens of thousands of Indians marched on foot, trolley and tractor from the states of Punjab and Haryana to the capital, New Delhi. To try to stop them, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP)-led state government in Haryana blocked the main highways with metal barriers, shipping containers and concrete pillars, and even dug up parts of the road. They also unleashed legions of riot police armed with batons, tear gas canisters and water cannon.

    Undeterred, the protesters pushed forward, casting aside the barriers and batons and ploughing over the ditches. Rather than end up at the designated protest grounds – where they would have been corralled – they halted with months of supplies at the outskirts of New Delhi in order to shut down the main arteries to the city. At the moment there is a tense standoff with no clear end in sight.

    Organised by more than 31 trade unions, the protest has drawn in a diverse group of farmers, labourers and their supporters from nearly all segments of Punjabi society. The demographics of the march cuts across caste, class and religious lines – predominantly Sikh women and men, young and old, rural as well as urban have come together in solidarity.

    This impressive mobilisation was triggered by the passing of three controversial farm bills into law in late September. This legislation is designed to commercialise agricultural procurement and distribution and allow private corporations to purchase crops at market prices while removing key government controls.

    The farmers argue these neoliberal changes will effectively dismantle the most important safeguards of the existing public system in Punjab, Haryana and western Uttar Pradesh states, leading to greater volatility and poverty for the bulk of the population dependent on agriculture. They see this as a direct threat to their livelihoods and a danger to the stability of the entire regional economy. The slogans of the protests refer to a fight for rights (hakk) and existence (hond).

    The march on Delhi was a dramatic escalation of months-long peaceful agitation. It began over the summer with farmers gathering in public squares and outside government offices. Leaders gave impassioned speeches, processions were taken out to nearby villages and a mass education campaign was launched to inform people about the effects of the new laws.

    When this had no effect on the government, the protesters then blocked the railways and toll booths, surrounded the homes of politicians and boycotted corporations such as Ambani and Adani that are poised to profit most from the changes.

    Throughout they scrupulously avoided violence or damage to public property. Yet apart from a few fitful rounds of talks with officials, this too yielded nothing. Indeed, not only did the government fail to consult farmers when devising the bills, but it thereafter consistently refused to meaningfully negotiate.

    These protests are no ordinary expression of grievance. What the world is witnessing in Punjab is a grassroots popular upsurge that has the potential to transform the political landscape of India.

    The implications can be gleaned from an unlikely source, the reactions and arguments of the government and its supporters. Rarely do they discuss the content of the laws in detail or try to counter the farmers’ claims.

    Instead, proponents have maintained that those protesting are either disgruntled elites who fear the erosion of their privileges, or uneducated simpletons who fail to understand how these laws will be to their benefit. Another conspiratorial angle – invoked by segments of the mainstream Indian media – is that separatists bent on dividing the country are misleading the farmers.

    Beyond such dismissals and delusions lies a more pernicious argument. Supporters of the BJP insist these laws were passed by a duly elected government following the proper procedure, and are therefore justified regardless of the opposition. According to this line of thinking, since the BJP won 303 out of 543 seats in the 2019 parliamentary election, the decisions it makes are inherently legitimate because they reflect the general will of the people.

    This perception of a blanket mandate presumably extends to other controversial measures, such as the bungled demonetisation of high-value currency notes, the revocation of special status in the disputed state of Jammu and Kashmir, and the imposition of an exclusionary refugee law and national citizen registry. In other words, the merits of an issue matter not in the arrogant logic of majority rule.

    The overriding power of the central government thus reveals a deeper contradiction in the very structure of the Indian state. Technically the BJP supporters are not wrong when they claim a procedural right to pass legislation. That is why the government has thus far rejected calls to annul the laws.

    However, by being so obstinate in the face of unanimous and sustained regional opposition, they have inadvertently provoked the question of the limits of democracy itself. With only 13 and 10 seats in parliament respectively, Punjab and Haryana will hardly ever matter electorally. The combined population of these two states is over 53 million people with large global diasporas – a small proportion of India’s total of 1.3 billion, but more than the populations of Spain, Columbia or South Korea.

    Also, the two states are of major importance to India’s food security. For the past five decades, Punjab alone has on average produced over two-thirds of the wheat and rice that made India food self-sufficient. Should its fate be decided by politicians elected from other, more populous states? What does it mean to be a forever minority in a country claiming to be the world’s largest democracy? Is the rule of the people nothing more than a crass tally of numbers?

    What the BJP and its supporters fail to realise is that their intransigence is having the opposite of its intended effect. Rather than weaken the protesters, it has invigorated many of them beyond demanding a repeal of the laws to debating the meaning of democracy and the purpose of federalism. It has not only drawn in vast numbers of people from across India, but has become an international issue, with massive support rallies in cities across the world and concerns raised by politicians in the United States, United Kingdom, Canada and Australia, and at the United Nations.

    This upsurge proves that governance cannot be conducted at the point of a ballot any more than at the point of a baton. Electoral mandates are not the sole means to decide the future of diverse peoples with distinctive histories, economies and cultures. Only when democracy is reduced to an arithmetic tyranny are people compelled to demonstrate the creative power of their own numbers. This is indeed a global lesson for leaders elsewhere blinded by majoritarian clout.

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    New Delhi: As the ruling BJP commissioned a media blitz to tackle the stalemate with farmers protesting the new agricultural laws, the central government on Friday began pushing a narrative that the "ultra-left" has hijacked the demonstrations.

    Through unofficial channels of communication referred to as "government sources" in media circles, functionaries in Prime Minister Narendra Modi's administration drew a parallel between the farmers' agitation and the Bhima-Koregaon violence near Pune in 2018.

    Government sources blamed the "ultra-left" and "pro-Left Wing Extremist elements" - not different from those labelled as "Urban Naxals" by fanatical supporters of the BJP-led government on social media - for the farmers' movement taking a sinister turn.

    They said there were "credible intelligence inputs" to suggest that the movement will spur incidents of violence, arson and damage to public property in the coming days. "Radical elements have advised farmers to block the Delhi-Jaipur highway," they said.

    The claims, floated by officials requesting anonymity, were instantly rubbished by the farmers' groups who have staunchly maintained that their protest is apolitical and peaceful, rebuffing overtures from opposition parties.

    "We reject this claim of the government. No one can influence us. This is the government's propaganda to defame us. All the decisions are taken by the Samyukt Kisan Union," Raminder Singh Patiyal, president of one of the 32 demonstrating groups Kirti Kisan Sangathan, said.

    For days, while the government has faced off with farmers firmly set on having the new laws scrapped, supporters of the ruling BJP on social media and friendly news networks have strived to discredit the farmers' movement.

    Detractors of the demonstrations have drawn links between the protests to everything from the separatist movement for a Sikh state of Khalistan and the anti-citizenship law sit-in at Delhi's Shaheen Bagh earlier this year.

    Thousands of farmers have been camping on the outskirts of Delhi since late November demanding the government repeal the laws that they say will eventually dismantle the country's regulated markets and leave them at the mercy of private buyers.

    The government has tried to engage leaders of the farmers' organisations with even Union Home Minister Amit Shah stepping in for talks, offering changes to the laws and written assurances, but the demonstrators have held their ground.

    The protesters, who braved a brutal police crackdown last month in BJP-ruled Haryana before being allowed into Delhi, have threatened to intensify their demonstrations from Saturday by blocking national highways and by boycotting public events held by leaders of the party.

    Voted through parliament in September with little debate, the laws only give an additional option to farmers to sell their produce, the government argues, but small farmers fear that once big corporate players enter the market, they will lose guarantees on prices.

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    The Congress on Saturday cited a media report to claim that 11 farmers had died in the last 17 days while protesting against the new agri laws, with former party chief Rahul Gandhi asking how many more sacrifices will farmers have to make to get the legislations repealed.

    At least five rounds of formal talks have taken place between the Centre and representatives of farmers, mainly from Punjab and Haryana, protesting on various borders of the national capital for over two weeks, but the deadlock has continued with the unions sticking to their main demand for the repeal of the three contentious laws.

    “How many more sacrifices will the farmers have to make to get the agri laws repealed?” Gandhi asked in a tweet in Hindi, tagging a media report which claimed that 11 protesting farmers had lost their lives in the last 17 days due to various reasons such as ill health or a mishap.

    Congress’ chief spokesperson Randeep Surjewala said that despite the “martyrdom of 11 farmer brothers in the last 17 days, the Modi government is not relenting”.

    “They (government) are still standing with their ‘money providers’ not with ‘annadaatas’ (food providers),” he alleged in a tweet in Hindi.

    “The country wants to know -- ‘Is Rajdharma (constitutional responsibility) bigger or Rajhat’ (stubbornness)?” Surjewala asked, tagging the media report that Gandhi also cited.

    Farmers are protesting the Farmers (Empowerment and Protection) Agreement of Price Assurance and Farm Services Act, 2020; Farmers Produce Trade and Commerce (Promotion and Facilitation) Act, 2020; and The Essential Commodities (Amendment) Act 2020.

    Enacted in September, the three farm laws have been projected by the government as major reforms in the agriculture sector that will remove the middlemen and allow farmers to sell anywhere in the country.

    However, the protesting farmers have expressed apprehension that the new laws would pave the way for eliminating the safety cushion of Minimum Support Price and do away with the mandis, leaving them at the mercy of big corporates.

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    New Delhi: Prime Minister Narendra Modi today said that the new farm laws legislated by the central government a few months ago will help bring down barriers between agricultural and associated sectors, creating new markets for farmers who will gain from technological advances and investments.
    The Prime Minister said that when one sector grows, its effect is seen on several other sectors.

    "But imagine what would happen when unnecessary walls are erected between industries. No industry will grow as fast as it should," PM Modi said today speaking at the virtual 93rd Annual Convention of the Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce and Industry.

    He then pointed specifically towards the controversial farm laws brought in by the central government in September.

    "Agriculture and its related sectors such as agricultural infrastructure, food processing, storage, cold chains had seen walls between them. Now these walls are being removed. These reforms will give farmers new markets, advantages of technology, and help bring investments. It is my country's farmers who will benefit the most from all this," he said.

    He continued on the theme of barriers in various industries saying that what is required in India's economy is not walls but more and more bridges so that they help support each other.

    Thousands of farmers across the country, especially those from Punjab and Haryana, have been protesting for the past few weeks against three central government agricultural laws passed in September, gathering support from many political parties. Multiple rounds of talks with the central government have failed to break the impasse, with the farmers seeking the complete repeal of the three laws.

    Speaking further at the Ficci event, the PM sought the industry's investment in India's villages and small towns because that is where growth will come from in the 21st century. He said that, unfortunately, the private sector had not focused on agriculture as much as it ought to have till now.

    "Now farmers have the option of selling their produce in mandis as well as to outside parties. These efforts are aimed increasing farmers' incomes," he said

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    So how does Modi and Shah get out of this mess?

    Covid rescued them when it came to the Citizenship Act protests but there’s no such exit route this time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabbar Singh View Post
    So how does Modi and Shah get out of this mess?

    Covid rescued them when it came to the Citizenship Act protests but there’s no such exit route this time.
    Except punjab and some in Haryana, there is hardly protest anywhere.

    My state is the largest rice producer in the country, hardly any protest. Hardly any protest in pulse and sugarcane belt.

    CAA protests similarly had no support beyond some muslims, that too died down and got limited to shaheen bagh.

    Its amusing how the prominent people like YoYa, bollywoodias, some "activists" are same in both protest. A coincidence?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabbar Singh View Post
    So how does Modi and Shah get out of this mess?

    Covid rescued them when it came to the Citizenship Act protests but there’s no such exit route this time.
    Won’t be surprised if a “Pakistan sponsored” attack happens to divert media attention.

    https://www.thenews.com.pk/latest/75...atters-sources

    This tactic has worked like a charm for Modi before so might try again.

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    It is strange that this protest has amplified for me the difference between us and them-our bigheartedness and open handedness where the farmers feed not only themselves but the people around them and their meanness and envy.

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    The Delhi-Jaipur highway was partially opened post 2 pm after it was blocked as farmers began a march from Shahjahanpur of Alwar district on the Rajasthan-Haryana border as part of their protest against the Centre’s contentious farm laws. The Haryana police did not allow march to the national capital resulting in the highway blockade.

    The announcement by farmers’ unions to block the Jaipur-Delhi highway came amid protests by thousands for the last 17 days at the various other border points of the national capital, including Singhu and Tikri, against the laws. Farmers are demanding the Centre withdraw the legislations.

    Enacted in September, the three farm laws have been projected by the government as major reforms in the agriculture sector that will remove the middlemen and allow farmers to sell anywhere in the country.

    Farmers of several organisations reached the Haryana border near Jaisinghpur-Khera area through Behror, Kotputli and Shahjahanpur of Rajasthan.

    Yogendra Yadav of Swaraj Abhiyan, social activists Aruna Roy and Medha Paatkar, and CPM leader Amra Ram also joined farmers at Shahjahanpur, where the highway was blocked.

    “We are sitting on the national highway in support of the farmers agitating at Singhu border in Delhi,” Yogendra Yadav said.

    “Police and administration are telling us that blocking the national highway will create trouble for people, so we have told them that we are ready to leave the highway if we are allowed to march towards Delhi. We have also apologised to the people for the inconvenience caused by the blockade,” he said.

    Kisan Panchayat national president Rampal Chaudhary continued his sit-in on the highway after farmers were stopped at Haryana border on Saturday.

    “Farmers of different organisations are reaching Shahjahanpur border. We just want to march towards Delhi to press for repeal of the farm laws,” Chaudhary said.

    Farmer leader Amra Ram of CPM asked the union government to withdraw the farm laws. “We do not intend to block Jaipur-Delhi national highway. It’s police who are blocking it by stopping our march,” he said.

    The vehicular movement on the highway was diverted through Bansur and other routes in Alwar. Vehicles are plying on the one-way lane from Delhi to Jaipur.

    Rashtriya Loktantrik Party (RLP) chief and MP Hanuman Beniwal also has plans to march towards Delhi. He organised a ‘kisan mahapanchayat’ in Kotputli on Saturday, where he accused the Congress and BJP of being two sides of the same coin and urged the Narendra Modi government to repeal the farm laws. The RLP is an ally of the BJP and part of the National Democratic Alliance (NDA).

    “PM Narendra Modi has a big heart, so he should withdraw farm laws in the interest of farmers. It is a do-or- die situation for farmers who are united,” Beniwal said.

    He urged the union government to implement Swaminathan Commission’s report for farmers’ benefit.

    The Rajasthan police have scaled up security in view of the farmer agitation. Bhiwadi SP Ram Murti Joshi said, “Police have made all arrangements to maintain law and order in view of the farmers’ agitation.”

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    Protests are continuing to grow over controversial new farming laws in India - but the country's prime minister is refusing to back down.

    Demonstrations have been taking place across India and have now spread to other cities around the world, including the UK, the Netherlands and Canada.

    Farmers say the three federal laws, which deregulate crop pricing, will reduce their earnings by dismantling the system that guarantees them an income and leave them vulnerable to large private companies.

    Key roads around the capital New Delhi have been shut off in recent weeks as thousands of farmers camp out, and more from around India are descending on the city to try to force a U-turn.

    Police have put up barricades to stop farmers entering the city in large numbers and earlier this week there was a nationwide strike over the issue.

    At least 30 farmers' unions are protesting against the changes but Prime Minister Narendra Modi is holding firm.

    The government argues the laws will abolish middlemen and improve farmers' incomes as they will have a wider market to sell to.

    Mr Modi said on Saturday that the changes would help "draw investment in agriculture and benefit farmers".

    "The aim of the all government reforms is to make farmers' prosperous," he told the annual meeting of the Federation of Indian Chambers of Commerce and Industry.

    Piyush Goyal, the trade minister, said the government was committed to doubling farmers' income and claimed the protests had been "infiltrated by leftists and Maoists."

    Talks between the government and unions have so far failed to find a solution and opposition groups say demonstrations will intensify.

    "Hundreds of farmers will launch a tractor trolley march to New Delhi to voice our grievances against the new laws," said Kamal Preet Singh Pannu, a leader of the Sanyukta Kisan Andolan group.

    "[The] government wants to discredit and crush our movement, but we will continue to protest peacefully," he said.

    In the UK on Saturday, thousands gathered in convoy from many northern and Midlands cities and headed to the Indian High Commission in Birmingham.

    The Kisaan rally caused serious congestion in an around England's second city, with police warning people to stick to social distancing and complaining that some had illegally set off "smoke devices".

    Last weekend, London also saw large numbers protest in the centre of the capital, displaying signs saying "No Farmers No Food" and others criticising Prime Minister Modi.

    All major Indian opposition political parties have come out in support of the strike.

    Dozens of UK MPs, led by the Labour Party's Tanmanjeet Singh Dhesi, are also backing the farmers, asking Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab to raise the matter with Delhi.

    Canadian leader Justin Trudeau has also spoken out, calling the situation "concerning" and defending the farmers' right to protest.

    https://news.sky.com/story/india-far...-down-12159925


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    Indian farmers' car rally draws thousands to Birmingham

    Thousands of people have driven to Birmingham's Indian consulate to show support for farmers in India protesting about agricultural reforms.

    Despite the city being under tier three rules, people from across England have been taking part a week after a similar gathering in London.

    The National Sikh Police Association UK advised people not to attend.

    Arjan Singh, from Manchester, said people wanted to show the Indian government the reforms were unfair.

    Protests in India have seen more than 250 million workers go on strike.

    "Everyone has come together as these reforms are very detrimental to farmers and only serve corporate interests which will leave the farmers with nothing," Mr Singh, 37, a company director from Bramall, said.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-en...ngham-55287290

    Blatant flouting of the law but police wouldn't dare take action. It appears the punjabis sacrificed all their volunteers in wars for UK and crown.

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    BLM protesters were allowed, so no issue here.


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    Indian farmers live in Birmingham?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Indian farmers live in Birmingham?
    Lots of Sikhs in Bham particularly around Smethwick, West Brom and Handsworth , they realise now that they need an independent Khalistan

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Indian farmers live in Birmingham?
    Having trouble reading the article?

    Plenty of Sikhs in the UK have a lot of land in India where farming takes place.

    They have every right to protest outside the Indian official building.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    Indian farmers live in Birmingham?
    I'm sure they have support all over the world, including Birmingham.



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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    Having trouble reading the article?

    Plenty of Sikhs in the UK have a lot of land in India where farming takes place.

    They have every right to protest outside the Indian official building.
    Next he'll be asking if they're are Indians abroad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    Lots of Sikhs in Bham particularly around Smethwick, West Brom and Handsworth , they realise now that they need an independent Khalistan
    They defn should get it in Southall England and Brampton Canada. Complete support to them.

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    Indians shouldnt question setting up Khalistan in UK or Canada(or both) yea it makes it tough for Indian citizens migrating but since Sikhs have become a race in UK , hopefully same happens in Canada and there is enough to differentiate.

    Its a win-win for everyone.

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    The rest of India just does not get the relationship between the Punjabi diaspora and Punjab.

    When we are in Punjab ,we cannot wait to get out and when we are out of Punjab, we miss it.

    Our identity where ever in the world we may live is totally tied to our village in Punjab- this is our land and our people and they will always have our support in all ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kabbirann View Post
    The rest of India just does not get the relationship between the Punjabi diaspora and Punjab.

    When we are in Punjab ,we cannot wait to get out and when we are out of Punjab, we miss it.

    Our identity where ever in the world we may live is totally tied to our village in Punjab- this is our land and our people and they will always have our support in all ways.
    That’s nothing special , Jallikattu protests were done across the world as well.

    Punjabis(or any regional identity) need to stop being so self absorbed about their culture.

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    I’ve now studied India’s new farm bills & realize they are flawed & will be detrimental to farmers. Our agriculture regulation needs change but the new laws will end up serving corporate interests more than farmers. Hats off to the sensibility & moral strength of India’s farmers.

    -Kaushik Basu, former Chief Economist at World Bank, on Twitter

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    Quote Originally Posted by kabbirann View Post
    It is strange that this protest has amplified for me the difference between us and them-our bigheartedness and open handedness where the farmers feed not only themselves but the people around them and their meanness and envy.
    It is the opposite. The non farmers, the taxpayers, feed the farmers. The farmers get money for what they grow, plus subsidies on fertilizer, electricity, loan waivers, and zero tax. All from taxpayers money. It should be the farmers who should be thankful to us taxpayers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaDed View Post
    That’s nothing special , Jallikattu protests were done across the world as well.

    Punjabis(or any regional identity) need to stop being so self absorbed about their culture.
    Good on them as well and it is not about culture, it is about the land and the people.

    These are my people, fighting for my land ,dying, out in the cold winter in the middle of the pandemic- the water cannons ,the lathis and the tear gas will not be forgotten.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhanWC View Post
    Having trouble reading the article?

    Plenty of Sikhs in the UK have a lot of land in India where farming takes place.

    They have every right to protest outside the Indian official building.
    Foreign citizens are not allowed to buy farm or agriculture land in India.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bewal Express View Post
    Lots of Sikhs in Bham particularly around Smethwick, West Brom and Handsworth , they realise now that they need an independent Khalistan
    They must ask Trudeau for some land in Canada or ask their local MP in UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cricketjoshila View Post
    They must ask Trudeau for some land in Canada or ask their local MP in UK.
    Or keep their ancestral lands in Punjab. India is more than the Hindutuva

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    Punjab DIG Prisons resigns in support of farmers’ protest

    https://scroll.in/latest/981116/top-...esting-farmers

    This is interesting, a high ranking police officer resigns in support of the protests. Wonder if this could lead to a trend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by El Generico View Post
    Punjab DIG Prisons resigns in support of farmers’ protest

    https://scroll.in/latest/981116/top-...esting-farmers

    This is interesting, a high ranking police officer resigns in support of the protests. Wonder if this could lead to a trend.
    There were graft charges against him. Just some people joining the bandwagon, from celebrities to sportsmen to tainted officials, using the movement of farmers to gain popularity or wash their sins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kabbirann View Post
    Good on them as well and it is not about culture, it is about the land and the people.

    These are my people, fighting for my land ,dying, out in the cold winter in the middle of the pandemic- the water cannons ,the lathis and the tear gas will not be forgotten.
    Your people? What is that? Are you talking about Sikhs, Jatts, Punjabis, Farmers?

    Forgotten ? in that logic Dalit Sikhs should never forget what Jatts have done to them for decades.

    Or what Nirankaris have suffered under Sikh leadership.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JaDed View Post
    Your people? What is that? Are you talking about Sikhs, Jatts, Punjabis, Farmers?

    Forgotten ? in that logic Dalit Sikhs should never forget what Jatts have done to them for decades.

    Or what Nirankaris have suffered under Sikh leadership.
    Just because you have disowned your own people doesn't mean everyone does it. Punjabi muslims are proud of being muslims, punjabi sikhs are proud to be sikhs, but punjabi hindus just want to be known as punjabis and not hindus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CricketCartoons View Post
    Just because you have disowned your own people doesn't mean everyone does it. Punjabi muslims are proud of being muslims, punjabi sikhs are proud to be sikhs, but punjabi hindus just want to be known as punjabis and not hindus.
    I have not disowned anyone, but i want to know whats my people, have seen enough casteism among Punjabis (all religions) to ask that question.

    I would had asked similar questions to Malayalees /Tamizhans had they glorified one caste in their songs like no tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaDed View Post
    I have not disowned anyone, but i want to know whats my people, have seen enough casteism among Punjabis (all religions) to ask that question.

    I would had asked similar questions to Malayalees /Tamizhans had they glorified one caste in their songs like no tomorrow.
    Martial races should be proud of themselves. They are the ones who have fought to keep their civilization alive. Others have tried to mock out of jealousy for their wakhra swag and stereotyped them as dumb and spread jokes on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CricketCartoons View Post
    Martial races should be proud of themselves. They are the ones who have fought to keep their civilization alive. Others have tried to mock out of jealousy for their wakhra swag and stereotyped them as dumb and spread jokes on them.
    Martial race? Are you talking about caste here Rajputs, Jatts?

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    A pretty interesting picture from Twitter. Not sure if photoshopped but multiple Indian accounts have shared it. Seems to be real.

    Last edited by El Generico; 15th December 2020 at 13:00.

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    "Even if I die, even if I am beheaded, or killed by bullets - I will not back down. Our community will never leave the battlefield and run away."

    "We will take our rights back, these laws have to go," Gurjit Singh, an ex-military man and now a farmer, tells Sky News.

    He is among thousands of farmers, mainly from the northern states of Punjab and Haryana, protesting the three laws passed by the Modi government in September.

    Denied entry into Delhi to protest, they have all camped on most of the major roads and highways leading into the city.

    They have been supported by farmer organisations from other states who are joining in.

    The Singhu border is the nerve centre and has the largest numbers of farmers gathered.

    It is like a mini township with hundreds of tractors and trolleys, pick-up trucks and vehicles that have blocked this main highway, almost choking the capital.

    It is one of the largest farmer protests in recent times. The government has been taken by surprise by the resilience, tenacity, and support for the farmers, not only from within but also from other parts of the world, due the large Sikh diaspora worldwide.

    Farmer Sukhmer Singh Cheema, 82, from Punjab says: "In my lifetime I have never seen such a protest. Despite the pandemic, cold weather we have camped here against the laws, it's not only for ourselves but for every section of this country."

    Langars - or free communal kitchens - have sprung up everywhere providing hot meals, tea, coffee and snacks to thousands of protestors and anyone who wants them. The Sikh community is known for such services to society.

    There are a number medical stations manned by doctors, nurses and volunteers who provide free consultations, medicines, and masks.

    Many protestors are elderly - camping out in the bitter cold in their makeshift homes on tractors and in tents.

    Pritam Singh heads the United Sikh aid organisation conducting a blood donation camp here.

    "There are far more people donating blood than we can handle, we asked them to come back tomorrow. They all want to serve humanity even while protesting," he says.

    Farmers argue the three federal laws will deregulate crop pricing and eventually dismantle the minimum support price system that guarantees them an income and leave them vulnerable to large private companies.

    The government argues the laws will abolish middlemen and improve farmers' incomes, as they will have a wider market to sell to.

    The farmers here are not convinced of the laws, nor the government's intentions of doing it during the coronavirus pandemic.

    There is a gaping trust deficit which is widening by the day. Talks between leaders of the farmer unions and the government, led by the agricultural minister, have so far had no results, as both sides have dug into their demands.

    Amarjit Singh, a farmer from Haryana, says: "These laws are like a warrant against farmers and the more the government delays in revoking them, the more it is harming itself. We will fight till our end."

    Security at the Singhu border is unprecedented. Shipping containers, trucks filled with earth, rows of concrete blocks chained to each other topped with razor wire, anti-riot and water cannon vehicles and many buses are stationed here.

    All manned by a posse of Rapid Action Force - a specialised paramilitary wing that deals with riots and crowd control backed with a large number of Delhi Police personnel.

    The farmers say they are here for a long haul and have provisions and resources to last a few months. They have developed a relay system where a few of them head back to tend to their fields and homes while a new group take their place with new vigour.

    https://news.sky.com/story/indian-fa...field-12162043


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    I don't think Modi will win next elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Generico View Post
    A pretty interesting picture from Twitter. Not sure if photoshopped but multiple Indian accounts have shared it. Seems to be real.

    Balle shera!

    My father and uncle served in the Indian army but we are all Khalistani's as per the Ambani and Adani lackeys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaDed View Post
    Your people? What is that? Are you talking about Sikhs, Jatts, Punjabis, Farmers?

    Forgotten ? in that logic Dalit Sikhs should never forget what Jatts have done to them for decades.

    Or what Nirankaris have suffered under Sikh leadership.
    All of them and yeah whataboutism is how we should respond to every atrocity.

    And FYI ,Jats are a tribe not a caste, we were considered too lowly to even be a part of the caste system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kabbirann View Post
    All of them and yeah whataboutism is how we should respond to every atrocity.

    And FYI ,Jats are a tribe not a caste, we were considered too lowly to even be a part of the caste system.
    The characteristics of tribes and caste overlap in india. Did you ask your people how they are going to lose their lands? Please let us know also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kabbirann View Post
    Balle shera!

    My father and uncle served in the Indian army but we are all Khalistani's as per the Ambani and Adani lackeys.
    You'd have noticed how all sanghi ministers are calling these brave farmers part of tukde tukde gang and terrorists. They are only following script as shared by their master to discredit farmers as is the godi media.

    This is going to be a long haul against a brutal dictator who is even more tyrannical than Fuhrer himself.


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