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    IPL in UAE has badly exposed PSL in UAE

    The UAE leg of PSL has always proved to be a dull affair with the odd exciting match. Scratchy, sluggish batting, over-reliance on spin bowlers etc.

    However, IPL in UAE has showed that the problem is more with the lack of quality players in PSL rather than the nature of pitches.

    This yearís IPL so far has been as good as any other IPL. Players like KL Rahul, Samson, Agarwal, Rohit, Faf, Bairstow, Gill etc. have light up UAE with some hugely entertaining performances.

    Bear in mind that they playing in empty stadiums as well. The entertainment factor has still been top notch.

    We need to address the elephant in the room - PSLís standard of batting is shockingly poor and you cannot have a high quality T20 league without high quality batsmen.

    If you compare IPL in UAE with PSL in UAE, it would prove to be a very embarrassing comparison for PSL.

    Pakistani leg of PSL is better but still far behind UAE IPL.

    IPL really is the gold standard of T20 cricket. It clearly deserves the success that it has enjoyed.

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    😂😂 Even the Indians don't desperately reinforce this as much as you do.

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    Can any cricket expert (which I am not) tell me if this high scores are due to the time of the year? We are almost reaching October and due to heavy due ball is coming nicely on the bat. As a result bowlers are struggling and batsmen can hit through the line.

    PSL being played in proper summer (Mar/Apr) when pitches gets slow due to heat, more cracks on the pitch which assist spinners. And hence we see low scores in PSL.

    Or am I overthinking and IPL batters are really that good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajdeep View Post
    Can any cricket expert (which I am not) tell me if this high scores are due to the time of the year? We are almost reaching October and due to heavy due ball is coming nicely on the bat. As a result bowlers are struggling and batsmen can hit through the line.

    PSL being played in proper summer (Mar/Apr) when pitches gets slow due to heat, more cracks on the pitch which assist spinners. And hence we see low scores in PSL.

    Or am I overthinking and IPL batters are really that good?
    What have the scores been like in Dubai and Abu Dhabi?

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    Psl was played in Pakistan.

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    I understand the need to belong - but this is a little too much. Lagay raho beta.

    I would say that the quality of bowling in PSL makes it difficult for batsmen to score as does local knowledge.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ethan hunt View Post
    What have the scores been like in Dubai and Abu Dhabi?
    Less than Sharjah but still good with avg score around 170. Punjab scored 206 in last match in Dubai due to Rahul's brilliant hundred.

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    Lol on the contrary my dear indian friend It goes to show how bakwaaas the bowling is in the IPL

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    I understand the need to belong - but this is a little too much. Lagay raho beta.

    I would say that the quality of bowling in PSL makes it difficult for batsmen to score as does local knowledge.
    This. Very accurate

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    The pitches have been fresher and better for batsman with ball coming on nicely with some nice even bounce.
    I'm sure as the tournament progresses, scores will get lower.

    Also, there's heavy dew in evenings at this time of year which has really helped the batters.

    Obviously, the quality of batting in IPL is much better than any other league but that's not the only factor behind these high scores.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    I understand the need to belong - but this is a little too much. Lagay raho beta.

    I would say that the quality of bowling in PSL makes it difficult for batsmen to score as does local knowledge.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zaz View Post
    Lol on the contrary my dear indian friend It goes to show how bakwaaas the bowling is in the IPL
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    This. Very accurate
    You mean these bowlers?

    https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/...-asia-cup-2018

    https://www.espncricinfo.com/series/...-asia-cup-2018

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    Quote Originally Posted by MenInG View Post
    I understand the need to belong - but this is a little too much. Lagay raho beta.

    I would say that the quality of bowling in PSL makes it difficult for batsmen to score as does local knowledge.
    PSL bowlers never had to bowl to the world class batsman playing in the IPL they had to bowl to ronchis shahzads and the type..any bowler would be world class bowling to the below average batsmen in PSL

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    Mamoon, expect better from you. This is such a disrespect to this legend.

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    He basically dug his own grave for a year or so by trying his best to prove IPL is an international standard league and the best standard in the world. Now he doesn’t want to lay in that grave now that there are guys who are watching this league seriously just to make sure that there is some validity in his claim.

    The last week or so has been terrible for him and others who have had to defend the likes of Shivam Dube, Deepak Chahar, Mohit Sharma, Warrior, Khaleel, Avesh Khan, Rajput, Undadkat and a long list of bang average bowlers, yet still claim that this is some gold standard league.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BreadPakoda View Post
    Mamoon, expect better from you. This is such a disrespect to this legend.

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    The challenge is to explain how PSL has the best standard of bowling and then also explain how the likes of Ronchi, Kamran Akmal, Dunk etc. dominate.

    Attempts are also made to convince us that the likes of Kohli, Rohit, KL Rahul, Samson, Bairstow, Buttler, Smith etc. would struggle against bowlers like Dilbar, Rauf, Hasnain, Naseem, Faheem, Wahab etc.

    Looks like the 2018 Asia Cup has been deleted from our memories already.

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    Not watching the IPL, so don't really know what's happening much. However, the likes of ABD, Gayle etc have been made to look like jobbers in the PSL, on these same wickets they will probably feast on in this tournament.

    Weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    The challenge is to explain how PSL has the best standard of bowling and then also explain how the likes of Ronchi, Kamran Akmal, Dunk etc. dominate.

    Attempts are also made to convince us that the likes of Kohli, Rohit, KL Rahul, Samson, Bairstow, Buttler, Smith etc. would struggle against bowlers like Dilbar, Rauf, Hasnain, Naseem, Faheem, Wahab etc.

    Looks like the 2018 Asia Cup has been deleted from our memories already.
    exactly my thoughts..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    He basically dug his own grave for a year or so by trying his best to prove IPL is an international standard league and the best standard in the world. Now he doesn’t want to lay in that grave now that there are guys who are watching this league seriously just to make sure that there is some validity in his claim.

    The last week or so has been terrible for him and others who have had to defend the likes of Shivam Dube, Deepak Chahar, Mohit Sharma, Warrior, Khaleel, Avesh Khan, Rajput, Undadkat and a long list of bang average bowlers, yet still claim that this is some gold standard league.
    You will find a lot of average players in international cricket as well. Pakistan has given international caps to the likes of Shakeel Ansar, Awais Zia, Rafatullah, Imran Khan Jr. (the slow ball specialist, not the Test bowler) in the previous decade.

    IPL is on par with international cricket because the best, active players in the world participate in it. It is basically international cricket in franchise form.

    IPL has proved to be a spectacle even in UAE. All questions have been answered now. It truly is the benchmark of T20 cricket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    He basically dug his own grave for a year or so by trying his best to prove IPL is an international standard league and the best standard in the world. Now he doesn’t want to lay in that grave now that there are guys who are watching this league seriously just to make sure that there is some validity in his claim.

    The last week or so has been terrible for him and others who have had to defend the likes of Shivam Dube, Deepak Chahar, Mohit Sharma, Warrior, Khaleel, Avesh Khan, Rajput, Undadkat and a long list of bang average bowlers, yet still claim that this is some gold standard league.
    I just looked at joffra archer's stats in last 2 matches. he's been striking at something around 300 in this IPL. A few weeks earlier, he was failing miserably to even get the bat on the ball against Australia and Pakistan, that too in his home grounds.

    Plus, guys like Roy, Hales, Russell, Pooran, AB, Billings, Watson, BMac have played in PSL as well.

    I for once can't fathom as to why people have to make sure they tell everyone how x is soo much better than y and z and etc etc.

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    High quality bowling which even Shadab Khan scores against.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    You will find a lot of average players in international cricket as well. Pakistan has given international caps to the likes of Shakeel Ansar, Awais Zia, Rafatullah, Imran Khan Jr. (the slow ball specialist, not the Test bowler) in the previous decade.

    IPL is on par with international cricket because the best, active players in the world participate in it. It is basically international cricket in franchise form.

    IPL has proved to be a spectacle even in UAE. All questions have been answered now. It truly is the benchmark of T20 cricket.
    rafatullah, shakeel ansar and imran khan have played 4 or 5 matches combined i guess.

    there is no such thing as international cricket in franchise form.
    Nothing ever can come close to international cricket.
    If you like to believe that, then it's fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    High quality bowling which even Shadab Khan scores against.
    I’ll score runs against Deepak Chahar and Shivam Dube

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    Unless the Akmals and Asifs play in the IPL in UAE you can’t really draw any conclusions.

    However here’s a fact. Pakistan alarmist always manage to defend a score that is anything above 140.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    High quality bowling which even Shadab Khan scores against.
    Well...if tailenders like Tewatia can hit 5 sixes in an over so why not Shadab.

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    A league that makes jofra archer look like the 2nd coming of Vivian Isaac Richards tells me everything i want to know about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyRabbit View Post
    I just looked at joffra archer's stats in last 2 matches. he's been striking at something around 300 in this IPL. A few weeks earlier, he was failing miserably to even get the bat on the ball against Australia and Pakistan, that too in his home grounds.

    Plus, guys like Roy, Hales, Russell, Pooran, AB, Billings, Watson, BMac have played in PSL as well.

    I for once can't fathom as to why people have to make sure they tell everyone how x is soo much better than y and z and etc etc.
    Joffra did not even play against pakistan in the T20s because England chose to play only their A team .
    Against Australia, he only got to bat in the last overs in 2 ODIs and didnt bat in the other one..so please dont make up stuff..

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    Mamoon is just on his natural merry way but that’s mamoon apart from that both leagues are quite trash to be honest PSL is more dull because it’s not televised with high quality and the same glamour as IPL but cricket standards are the same. When it comes to the players so these are the top international players in IPL russel Watson AB Morgan Roy pooran etcc IPL has the same except some other Australian players and English ones like bairstow butler who have played psl as well. So the international quality is quite similar. The only problem I have here is when the legendary mamoon compares it to being on level with international cricket.

    Our Lahore lions team thrashed the so called Mumbai Indians best international t20 team in the world if that’s your level of international cricket than you are clearly watching some other international cricket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oxfordchamp View Post
    Joffra did not even play against pakistan in the T20s because England chose to play only their A team .
    Against Australia, he only got to bat in the last overs in 2 ODIs and didnt bat in the other one..so please dont make up stuff..
    Yes but Jofra can’t score runs like this in international cricket the way he smashes bowlers in Sharjah. Or Tewatia smashes 5/6 sixes in an over against Cotteral

    Don’t be fooled to think Jofra can do anything like this at international cricket. He is still a glorified tailender. England have had plenty of games where it was still alive with Jofra at the crease yet the guy has failed with the bat

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    I wonder why doesn't the OP compare IPL vs BBL, IPL vs Natwest, IPL vs BPL, IPL vs CPL, its always a desperation to make Pakistan Cricket look poor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oxfordchamp View Post
    Joffra did not even play against pakistan in the T20s because England chose to play only their A team .
    Against Australia, he only got to bat in the last overs in 2 ODIs and didnt bat in the other one..so please dont make up stuff..
    Did i say t20is? I said in the series, Joffra failed with the bat in the ODI's esp the last one. Billings was smashing the bowlers around, while archer was failing to even connect the ball and bat, yet he is striking around at 300 or s.

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    Granted hes not batted more than a couple of dozen or so innings in intnl cricket but still Joffra archer avges 6.75 in odis and 8.68 in tests.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by BunnyRabbit View Post
    Did i say t20is? I said in the series, Joffra failed with the bat in the ODI's esp the last one. Billings was smashing the bowlers around, while archer was failing to even connect the ball and bat, yet he is striking around at 300 or s.
    You mentioned "against Pakistan" in your post. England felt he is too good to play against pakistan and rested him along with their other top players.

    In the last ODI against AUS, he did not even get a chance to bat. Stop posting garbage..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mamoon View Post
    The challenge is to explain how PSL has the best standard of bowling and then also explain how the likes of Ronchi, Kamran Akmal, Dunk etc. dominate.

    Attempts are also made to convince us that the likes of Kohli, Rohit, KL Rahul, Samson, Bairstow, Buttler, Smith etc. would struggle against bowlers like Dilbar, Rauf, Hasnain, Naseem, Faheem, Wahab etc.

    Looks like the 2018 Asia Cup has been deleted from our memories already.
    Same way likes of Tewatia and Archer are dominating IPL lol
    And no one mentioned those batsmens will struggle it's you coming up with random things and change of topics when you have nothing to say in other threads.

    What has 2018 Asia Cup got to do with PSL and IPL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oxfordchamp View Post
    Joffra did not even play against pakistan in the T20s because England chose to play only their A team .
    Against Australia, he only got to bat in the last overs in 2 ODIs and didnt bat in the other one..so please dont make up stuff..
    I actually felt it was a disrespect to rest Joffra and Butler against Pakistan. You have Pakistan visit you during this time, stay in a god damn bubble, the least you can do is play your full strength. Moreover, England ended up looking stupid after losing a game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    High quality bowling which even Shadab Khan scores against.
    I don't really remember Shadab getting big runs in PSL. Quick 20 and 30s yes. And he's done that in international cricket too in tests too so quality of international bowling is poor too as Shadab made runs their too

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingKhan12 View Post
    I don't really remember Shadab getting big runs in PSL. Quick 20 and 30s yes. And he's done that in international cricket too in tests too so quality of international bowling is poor too as Shadab made runs their too
    The guy has decent batting averages at international cricket considering he is currently a bowling all rounder

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    I wonder why doesn't the OP compare IPL vs BBL, IPL vs Natwest, IPL vs BPL, IPL vs CPL, its always a desperation to make Pakistan Cricket look poor.
    Maybe because its Pakistan cricket forum?

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    Archer got smacked for an 18 run over, Bumrah and Cummins got smacked, Cottrell was in the side that bowled out for Pakistan for less than 120 runs in the WC got smacked,Rabada got smacked and Shami got smacked today and somehow we are made to believe that the Raufís and the Dilbar who bowled spells on low and slow wickets against likes of Ronchi and Kamran Akmalís of the world have a larger USP than any of the names mentioned above or have accomplished a lot more

    Not to forget Gayle and ABís legacies being questioned for playing half a PSL on these pitches and having average returns.

    I guess about time we need to realize we are fighting a losing battle against some of these guys who are leaving a huge digital footprint to put it politely how much they understand cricket anyways, so better to take the high road here lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oxfordchamp View Post
    You mentioned "against Pakistan" in your post. England felt he is too good to play against pakistan and rested him along with their other top players.

    In the last ODI against AUS, he did not even get a chance to bat. Stop posting garbage..
    Forgive my ignorance but I was saying this from my memory. I don't memorize the scorecards. You do get the idea about which match i was referring to with billings scoring a century with archer at the other end for last few overs at the death. You must be a very close to England coaching staff for knowing all too well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    I’ll score runs against Deepak Chahar and Shivam Dube
    You wouldn't even get selected for a league like PSL in the first place


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    You wouldn't even get selected for a league like PSL in the first place
    Well that was a bit dumb, as Dube and Chahar are not allowed to play in PSL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    Well that was a bit dumb, as Dube and Chahar are not allowed to play in PSL
    If you can't get selected for a low quality league like PSL, you wouldn't get a chance to play aginst Dube and Chahar.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikhil_cric View Post
    If you can't get selected for a low quality league like PSL, you wouldn't get a chance to play aginst Dube and Chahar.
    I’ll play Dube and Chahar next year or the year after when they are on agency website looking for a club to play in as overseas pros
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rana View Post
    I’ll play Dube and Chahar next year or the year after when they are on agency website looking for a club to play in as overseas pros
    That might the future of your "17 year old" Naseem Shah. We all saw how impressive your bowlers were in SA, Australia and England. And the supposedly superior pace attack couldn't buy a win even against an SL "C" team that bothered to tour Pakistan for the T20's. Whats your T20 record like since 2019 ? . Oh that's right. 2 wins and 10 losses or something similar against teams that don't even bother to play their first XI's against y'all
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    Chris Gayle was dumped by PSL franchises after 2 seasons. Brendon Mccullam also never got selected again after 2 seasons and his so called aggressive captaincy was no where to be seen

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Chris Gayle was dumped by PSL franchises after 2 seasons. Brendon Mccullam also never got selected again after 2 seasons and his so called aggressive captaincy was no where to be seen
    Gayle,AB and now Mccullum damn the standards keep rising. Also wonder how old they were when they played for PSL vs when they were playing for IPL?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Local.Dada View Post
    Gayle,AB and now Mccullum damn the standards keep rising. Also wonder how old they were when they played for PSL vs when they were playing for IPL?
    Gayle was 6th highest scorer in IPL 2019 with 34 sixes at almost 40 years of age while Imran Tahir was the highest wicket taker in the same IP at 40 years of age.

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    Is IPL the league where narine opens the batting for his team?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaz View Post
    Is IPL the league where narine opens the batting for his team?
    Yes. The worlds best openers consists of Narine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savak View Post
    Chris Gayle was dumped by PSL franchises after 2 seasons. Brendon Mccullam also never got selected again after 2 seasons and his so called aggressive captaincy was no where to be seen
    Ben Dunk was kicked out of the IPL after not even half a season, he is among the top run getters in PSL. Lynn,I see is second on PSL scorer list, he doesnt even get to play in the IPL and when he does, he is nowhere near the top. Do you see what Iam getting at?

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    How dare you quote stats and facts? Please let us live in a self created delusionary bubble of having a league with number 1 bowlers irrespective of the ground realities. And please dont respond objectively. How about random personal insinuations for a change?

    Jokes and taunts apart, I would have loved to see Shaheen Afridi taking scalps of these top batsmen by swing with new ball. But I am not sure if we can ever have better relations with india to have any chance of participation of our players there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Local.Dada View Post
    Archer got smacked for an 18 run over, Bumrah and Cummins got smacked, Cottrell was in the side that bowled out for Pakistan for less than 120 runs in the WC got smacked,Rabada got smacked and Shami got smacked today and somehow we are made to believe that the Raufís and the Dilbar who bowled spells on low and slow wickets against likes of Ronchi and Kamran Akmalís of the world have a larger USP than any of the names mentioned above or have accomplished a lot more

    Not to forget Gayle and ABís legacies being questioned for playing half a PSL on these pitches and having average returns.

    I guess about time we need to realize we are fighting a losing battle against some of these guys who are leaving a huge digital footprint to put it politely how much they understand cricket anyways, so better to take the high road here lol.
    There is your contradiction So what is it? Were the pitches bad or was the bowling crap?

    Somehow Gayle and ABD are ďgetting average returnsĒ on these pitches yet you and Mamoon expect PSL Matches to be 200 run affairs like the IPL right now!

    You canít have your cake and eat it too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    There is your contradiction So what is it? Were the pitches bad or was the bowling crap?

    Somehow Gayle and ABD are ďgetting average returnsĒ on these pitches yet you and Mamoon expect PSL Matches to be 200 run affairs like the IPL right now!

    You canít have your cake and eat it too.
    We are talking about Mr. 360 ABD here. He eats the world's best bowlers for breakfast. PSL is more like a holiday with kids for someone like him. I'm not sure by the end of the tournament if he even remembers which team he played for. His passion for SA/RCB is different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adil79 View Post
    How dare you quote stats and facts? Please let us live in a self created delusionary bubble of having a league with number 1 bowlers irrespective of the ground realities. And please dont respond objectively. How about random personal insinuations for a change?
    Glad that someone is interested in stats. That would be fun.

    Pakistan currently has 2 bowlers in ICC top 10 T20 bowlers rankings, most by any top team alongside Australia. Pakistan had 5 bowlers in all time T20 ratings and 2 are currently playing. Yes people can bring in number of excuses for T20s so why give them any roam . Lets talk about another one (As T20 ratings can be discounted lets go to the last world cup route).

    Pakistan was the only team with 2 bowlers in top 10 wicket takers in World Cup 2019 (Supposedly top players played in that) alongside the WC winners Eng.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titan24 View Post
    Glad that someone is interested in stats. That would be fun.

    Pakistan currently has 2 bowlers in ICC top 10 T20 bowlers rankings, most by any top team alongside Australia. Pakistan had 5 bowlers in all time T20 ratings and 2 are currently playing. Yes people can bring in number of excuses for T20s so why give them any roam . Lets talk about another one (As T20 ratings can be discounted lets go to the last world cup route).

    Pakistan was the only team with 2 bowlers in top 10 wicket takers in World Cup 2019 (Supposedly top players played in that) alongside the WC winners Eng.
    Add finalists NZ as well with 2 bowlers in top 10 wicket takers. Not a bad list to be in I suppose.

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    Pathetic post but then again what else do we expect from him. I am sure in one of the forums he mentioned Shoaib Akhtar being paid by India as he praised them a lot and look at what he does. Anyways genius do you care to consider that at the same venue where apparently psl has been exposed, the likes of Gayle, ABD, KP, Roy, etc have failed. India is a better batting nation and Pakistan a better bowling one..stop your pathetic comparison. IPL is better than PSL atmo but exposed, etc. That is just so cringe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thunderbolt14 View Post
    There is your contradiction So what is it? Were the pitches bad or was the bowling crap?

    Somehow Gayle and ABD are ďgetting average returnsĒ on these pitches yet you and Mamoon expect PSL Matches to be 200 run affairs like the IPL right now!

    You canít have your cake and eat it too.
    its natural for humans to not give your best when the pay is low..
    Would you give the same attention to a job that pays you 100 bugs an hour compared to a job that pays you 20 bugs.

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    It's true that IPL is more entertaining but it's mostly because quality of bowling in PSL is in fact better than in IPL. This has even been recognised by UNESCO hence no arguements.

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    Well most international players and pundits agree that the level of bowling in PSL is top notch, while you have gully mohallah type bowlers like Unadkat selling for millions in IPL. No wonder scores are so high in IPL, the bowling is trash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Well most international players and pundits agree that the level of bowling in PSL is top notch, while you have gully mohallah type bowlers like Unadkat selling for millions in IPL. No wonder scores are so high in IPL, the bowling is trash.
    Who exactly are these international pundits?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreadPakoda View Post
    Mamoon, expect better from you. This is such a disrespect to this legend.

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    Don't disrespect legends like...

    Uthappa
    RAYUDU
    Chakrabarty
    Chawla
    P tambre
    Paul Vaulthaty...
    Praveen and Binay....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Local.Dada View Post
    Who exactly are these international pundits?
    Watson is one...... There are many......there are still ppl with some sanity and sense in their mind......2 tell the truth

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    Quote Originally Posted by naseem View Post
    Don't disrespect legends like...

    Uthappa
    RAYUDU
    Chakrabarty
    Chawla
    P tambre
    Paul Vaulthaty...
    Praveen and Binay....
    Uff such a stellar line of batsmen. So jealous... Where is that guy who was smashing it in age group cricket and IPL and then got put into international cricket and looked like the second coming of Dinesh Mongia

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    There are 2 sides of me that want Pakistan players to be picked in the IPL

    One is the humane side of me that genuinely wants these politics, conflicts etc to end so that cricketing and other ties resume and we can get on with our lives.

    The 2nd is the digital side of me that hopes a couple of these players are picked in the IPL
    So that the bubble finally bursts and we can get on with our lives.

    Hope one of these 2 especially the former happen sooner than later

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    Quote Originally Posted by naseem View Post
    Watson is one...... There are many......there are still ppl with some sanity and sense in their mind......2 tell the truth
    Watson said PSL is better than IPL? Let me know if he said that, I mean he plays for CSK one of the most powerful Sport franchises in the world.
    Provide me with One legit link, in fact that may end his IPL career which probably will after this season anyways but hey he can milk the PSL for a few more years lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreadPakoda View Post
    We are talking about Mr. 360 ABD here. He eats the world's best bowlers for breakfast. PSL is more like a holiday with kids for someone like him. I'm not sure by the end of the tournament if he even remembers which team he played for. His passion for SA/RCB is different.
    Yes.....not only him but even Narine and Russell has passion for RCB.......remember chasing almost 13 15 rpo for fun.....ha ha.....

    Plz don't talk about AB's passion for SA....the way he left the side months before world cup is a matter of shame....yes I repeat shame......and then suddenly just before start he changes his mind........probably he thought he is playing for RCB......where they can't even think without him....

    Talk of passion .......huh......every other batsman including Tewatia Narine would feel more passionate to play against your slower specialist bowlers.

    Grow up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Local.Dada View Post
    Watson said PSL is better than IPL? Let me know if he said that, I mean he plays for CSK one of the most powerful Sport franchises in the world.
    Provide me with One legit link, in fact that may end his IPL career which probably will after this season anyways but hey he can milk the PSL for a few more years lol
    You can search it in google dear about PSL ......Watson on PSL.......

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    Aren't the best bowling figures in IPL held by Sohail Tanvir set in the very first season. I'm not sure if that's still the case but ST held the record for close to a decade.


    Says alot about the quality of IPL bowling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syed1 View Post
    Well most international players and pundits agree that the level of bowling in PSL is top notch, while you have gully mohallah type bowlers like Unadkat selling for millions in IPL. No wonder scores are so high in IPL, the bowling is trash.
    Dont disrespect the legend unadkat like that. Takes a special talent to bowl at 115k and stare at the batsmen who are shivering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Local.Dada View Post
    Watson said PSL is better than IPL? Let me know if he said that, I mean he plays for CSK one of the most powerful Sport franchises in the world.
    Provide me with One legit link, in fact that may end his IPL career which probably will after this season anyways but hey he can milk the PSL for a few more years lol
    Even now CSK has to depend on his exploits and Rayudus .....that says it all...... The level of bowling is such they have to fall back on poor Chawla........ remember his 100 in final.....he is clutch player dear....
    Still has it in him in t20s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Local.Dada View Post
    There are 2 sides of me that want Pakistan players to be picked in the IPL

    One is the humane side of me that genuinely wants these politics, conflicts etc to end so that cricketing and other ties resume and we can get on with our lives.

    The 2nd is the digital side of me that hopes a couple of these players are picked in the IPL
    So that the bubble finally bursts and we can get on with our lives.

    Hope one of these 2 especially the former happen sooner than later
    Sohail Tanvir yaad hai........ if that's the case then the purple cap is gone for indian bowlers........ Hope they get if at all everything becomes normal......but but then there will be nationalt20 round the corner .......it will go along with IPL......u can see the difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by naseem View Post
    Don't disrespect legends like...

    Uthappa
    RAYUDU
    Chakrabarty
    Chawla
    P tambre
    Paul Vaulthaty...
    Praveen and Binay....
    They will still walk into the Pakistan first XI. Rayudu would be your best batsman after Babar. Uthappa would be a bigger legend than Hafeez and Malik and probably your longest serving captain.
    Last edited by BreadPakoda; 28th September 2020 at 09:23.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oxfordchamp View Post
    You mentioned "against Pakistan" in your post. England felt he is too good to play against pakistan and rested him along with their other top players.

    In the last ODI against AUS, he did not even get a chance to bat. Stop posting garbage..
    Well if u have some sense u would know England were playing back to back 2 test series of 6 tests within a short span.......and Archer feature in most of them.......his vicious bouncers couldn't do anything to Babar Rizwan .....heck even Azhar Ali guided those behind point for 4s.........the same bouncers had taken the day light out of the no.1 test batsman......

    England have plenty of seam and swing bowlers......and unlike India they don't need to play the same set of bowlers in every single match........ So being a fast bowler he naturally needed rest and is duly rested even they rested Broad and Anderson in a test each......Woakes found it tough to have a place in final XI.........that's the level of resources England and other countries enjoy unlike India who have to fall back on Bumrah Sami every now and then......and when they are rested Dube Chahar Saini Khaleel usually plays .........says a lot about the skeleton bowling resources of India

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreadPakoda View Post
    They will still walk into the Pakistan first XI. Rayudu would be your best batsman after Babar.
    That RAYUDU who even can't keep his fitness entire tournament......that RAyudu...... Nice try

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreadPakoda View Post
    They will still walk into the Pakistan first XI. Rayudu would be your best batsman after Babar. Uthappa would be a bigger legend than Hafeez and Malik and probably your longest serving captain.
    Uthappa who forgets he is playing test or t20.....that Uthappa.......Chawla that Chawla who batsman love to ate up like rajma chawal...........seems WATCHING IPL is having it's toll on indian fans......LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by naseem View Post
    That RAYUDU who even can't keep his fitness entire tournament......that RAyudu...... Nice try
    Rayudu would be your best batsman after Babar. Far better than most of the rubbish you've churned out in the last decade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naseem View Post
    Uthappa who forgets he is playing test or t20.....that Uthappa.......Chawla that Chawla who batsman love to ate up like rajma chawal...........seems WATCHING IPL is having it's toll on indian fans......LOL
    In LOIs, Uthappa > Misbah > Hafeez 1.0 and 2.0 > Malik

    Misbah, Hafeez and Malik are your legends. Sadly, Uthappa didn't get enough chances in the Indian side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naseem View Post
    Well if u have some sense u would know England were playing back to back 2 test series of 6 tests within a short span.......and Archer feature in most of them.......his vicious bouncers couldn't do anything to Babar Rizwan .....heck even Azhar Ali guided those behind point for 4s.........the same bouncers had taken the day light out of the no.1 test batsman......

    England have plenty of seam and swing bowlers......and unlike India they don't need to play the same set of bowlers in every single match........ So being a fast bowler he naturally needed rest and is duly rested even they rested Broad and Anderson in a test each......Woakes found it tough to have a place in final XI.........that's the level of resources England and other countries enjoy unlike India who have to fall back on Bumrah Sami every now and then......and when they are rested Dube Chahar Saini Khaleel usually plays .........says a lot about the skeleton bowling resources of India
    India have the same set of players because India has a steady set of players no different from the Aussie WI SA or even your Pak side from the 90ís thatís how teams in their prime work.

    Can you name more than 5-6 players from Srilanka or Bangla or even WI because thatís the approach, thrown everything still it sticks, Having bench is good if you have a settled attack, if you have a settler attack and may be a weak bench thatís ok too but itís a problem if you have a supposedly long bench but no one to bowl for you.

    I still donít get what exactly you are trying to prove here. Ok you gave me 10 fast bowlers, did they just pop up yesterday? First play them, let them succeed and then come back to me with your bragging, until then there is nothing to discuss here, you are just going around in circles because you probably are bored and now you are beggening to bore everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreadPakoda View Post
    Rayudu would be your best batsman after Babar. Far better than most of the rubbish you've churned out in the last decade.
    I don't want to laugh this morning....bhai.....yes if Pak at all play a one off t20 they can accommodate RAyudu keeping in mind his fitness but since there are the Haiders Hurairas.......the Zeeshans......he would warm the bench

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    Quote Originally Posted by Local.Dada View Post
    India have the same set of players because India has a steady set of players no different from the Aussie WI SA or even your Pak side from the 90ís thatís how teams in their prime work.

    Can you name more than 5-6 players from Srilanka or Bangla or even WI because thatís the approach, thrown everything still it sticks, Having bench is good if you have a settled attack, if you have a settler attack and may be a weak bench thatís ok too but itís a problem if you have a supposedly long bench but no one to bowl for you.

    I still donít get what exactly you are trying to prove here. Ok you gave me 10 fast bowlers, did they just pop up yesterday? First play them, let them succeed and then come back to me with your bragging, until then there is nothing to discuss here, you are just going around in circles because you probably are bored and now you are beggening to bore everyone.
    Le west indies...

    Alzarri Joseph...
    Thomas
    Roach
    Cottrell
    Holder
    Russel...
    Jayden Seales one to watch for
    Joshua james......u19 star......

    West Indies players are natural athlete mate......it's other think unlike India their main sports is not cricket anymore...

    So now u have to come to the level of Lanka and Desh


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